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What was it about Moses that moved God to declare he was by far the meekest man upon the earth?

 
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God knows each man's heart
no matter whether an atheist on GLP puts a sentence on
as a post and calls it a thread when it only says I love S**** (whose name shall not be mentioned because it's not worthy of mentioning) just so that person can make a Christian have to read it over and over again looking through threads.

God knows how that person feels when they are reading it.

God knew Noah was very sad at what he had to do.
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AND MOSES ALSO.


He knew he was meek in spirit because he did not want to do what he had to do but he did anyway.

(*I have Noah on the brain today)*
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AND MOSES ALSO.


He knew he was meek in spirit because he did not want to do what he had to do but he did anyway.

(*I have Noah on the brain today)*
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Well, it took courage for both Noah and Moses to carry out the commission, so it is safe to say they both had similar qualities
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God knows each man's heart
no matter whether an atheist on GLP puts a sentence on
as a post and calls it a thread when it only says I love S**** (whose name shall not be mentioned because it's not worthy of mentioning) just so that person can make a Christian have to read it over and over again looking through threads.

God knows how that person feels when they are reading it.

God knew Noah was very sad at what he had to do.
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However the Bible says: "Noah did just so"- Genesis 6:22
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I did read the Bible once, to satisfy my curiosity, but I'm not a Christian, so I don't have the whole thing memorized. I just remember that Moses was a genocidal warlord.

That said, I googled Moses + war for you, and this popped up:

[link to theuglytruth.wordpress.com (secure)]

You should definitely read it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46998366


I looked at that Link and it is a complete mis representation of the facts, with added false information

My recommendation to you, since you said you have read the Bible once, but don't have it memorized, that if you want the TRUE story of Moses and the circumstances surrounding scourges or killings that did take place, (Which were brought by Jehovah himself by the way)...you might want to read the Bible yourself rather than these links that are presented by people who have some other agenda rather than seeking out Bible truthpeace
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Dumbass. The linked article points you to the exact places in the Bible where Moses is acting like a bloodthirsty genocidal warlord. If you're to dense to understand what the Bible spells out clearly, then we have nothing more to say to each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46998366


One needs to read the entire account, and surrounding chapter, and prior chapter which state God's laws....

No one is saying there were not killings in the Bible, when the Ten Commandments were given much earlier on, Jehovah stated quite clear what the consequences were for certain action, when Moses followed Jehovah's direction in issuing punishment....he was doing as instructed

Why don't we focus for a moment on the good things Moses did, there were plenty
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

Moses was born into one of the most politically charged times in history. The Pharaoh of Egypt was the dominant power figure in the land. He was so incredibly powerful that he referred to himself as a god and nobody was inclined or able to dispute this. He said, “I am your lord, most high”, (Quran 79:24)

Pharaoh effortlessly exerted his authority and influence over all the people in Egypt. He used the strategy of divide and conquer. He set up class distinctions, divided the people into groups and tribes, and set them against one another. The Jews, the children of Israel, were put at the lowest level of Egyptian society. They were the slaves and servants. Moses’ family was from amongst the children of Israel.

Egypt at the time was the known world’s superpower. The ultimate power rested in the hands of very few. Pharaoh and his trusted ministers directed matters as if lives of the population were of little or no consequence. The political situation was in some ways similar to the political world of the 21st century. In a time when the young people of the world are used as cannon fodder for the political and military games of the most powerful, the story of Moses is particularly pertinent.

According to Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir the children of Israel talked vaguely about one of their nation’s sons arsing to wrest the throne of Egypt from Pharaoh. Perhaps it was just a persistent daydream from an oppressed people, or even an ancient prophecy but the story of Moses begins here. A yearning for freedom coupled with a tyrannical king’s dream.

The people of Egypt were influenced by dreams and the interpretation of dreams. Dreams featured prominently in the story of prophet Joseph and once again, in the story of Moses the fate of the children of Israel is affected by a dream. Pharaoh dreams that a child from the children of Israel grows to manhood and seizes his throne.

True to character, Pharaoh reacts arrogantly and gives the order that all male children born to the children of Israel be killed. His ministers however perceive that this would lead to the complete annihilation of the children of Israel and economic ruin for Egypt. How, they ask, would the empire function without slaves and servants? The order is changed; the male children are killed in one year but spared in the next.

Pharaoh becomes so fanatical he sends spies or security agents to seek out pregnant women. If any woman gives birth to a male child, he is immediately put to death. When Moses’ mother becomes pregnant with the child destined to lead the children of Israel out of bondage, she conceals her pregnancy. However, God wished to do a favour to those who were weak and oppressed, and pharaoh’s plans are thwarted.

“And We wished to do a favour to those who were weak (and oppressed) in the land, and to make them rulers and to make them the inheritors, And to establish them in the land, and We let Pharaoh and Haman (Egypt’s Chief Minister) and their hosts receive from them that which they feared.” (Quran 28:5&6)

The scene is set, and the child is born. The winds of change begin to blow and God demonstrates that humans may plan and scheme but He Alone is the best of planners.
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I looked at that Link and it is a complete mis representation of the facts, with added false information

My recommendation to you, since you said you have read the Bible once, but don't have it memorized, that if you want the TRUE story of Moses and the circumstances surrounding scourges or killings that did take place, (Which were brought by Jehovah himself by the way)...you might want to read the Bible yourself rather than these links that are presented by people who have some other agenda rather than seeking out Bible truthpeace
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Dumbass. The linked article points you to the exact places in the Bible where Moses is acting like a bloodthirsty genocidal warlord. If you're to dense to understand what the Bible spells out clearly, then we have nothing more to say to each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46998366


One needs to read the entire account, and surrounding chapter, and prior chapter which state God's laws....

No one is saying there were not killings in the Bible, when the Ten Commandments were given much earlier on, Jehovah stated quite clear what the consequences were for certain action, when Moses followed Jehovah's direction in issuing punishment....he was doing as instructed

Why don't we focus for a moment on the good things Moses did, there were plenty
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

Moses was born into one of the most politically charged times in history. The Pharaoh of Egypt was the dominant power figure in the land. He was so incredibly powerful that he referred to himself as a god and nobody was inclined or able to dispute this. He said, “I am your lord, most high”, (Quran 79:24)

Pharaoh effortlessly exerted his authority and influence over all the people in Egypt. He used the strategy of divide and conquer. He set up class distinctions, divided the people into groups and tribes, and set them against one another. The Jews, the children of Israel, were put at the lowest level of Egyptian society. They were the slaves and servants. Moses’ family was from amongst the children of Israel.

Egypt at the time was the known world’s superpower. The ultimate power rested in the hands of very few. Pharaoh and his trusted ministers directed matters as if lives of the population were of little or no consequence. The political situation was in some ways similar to the political world of the 21st century. In a time when the young people of the world are used as cannon fodder for the political and military games of the most powerful, the story of Moses is particularly pertinent.

According to Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir the children of Israel talked vaguely about one of their nation’s sons arsing to wrest the throne of Egypt from Pharaoh. Perhaps it was just a persistent daydream from an oppressed people, or even an ancient prophecy but the story of Moses begins here. A yearning for freedom coupled with a tyrannical king’s dream.

The people of Egypt were influenced by dreams and the interpretation of dreams. Dreams featured prominently in the story of prophet Joseph and once again, in the story of Moses the fate of the children of Israel is affected by a dream. Pharaoh dreams that a child from the children of Israel grows to manhood and seizes his throne.

True to character, Pharaoh reacts arrogantly and gives the order that all male children born to the children of Israel be killed. His ministers however perceive that this would lead to the complete annihilation of the children of Israel and economic ruin for Egypt. How, they ask, would the empire function without slaves and servants? The order is changed; the male children are killed in one year but spared in the next.

Pharaoh becomes so fanatical he sends spies or security agents to seek out pregnant women. If any woman gives birth to a male child, he is immediately put to death. When Moses’ mother becomes pregnant with the child destined to lead the children of Israel out of bondage, she conceals her pregnancy. However, God wished to do a favour to those who were weak and oppressed, and pharaoh’s plans are thwarted.

“And We wished to do a favour to those who were weak (and oppressed) in the land, and to make them rulers and to make them the inheritors, And to establish them in the land, and We let Pharaoh and Haman (Egypt’s Chief Minister) and their hosts receive from them that which they feared.” (Quran 28:5&6)

The scene is set, and the child is born. The winds of change begin to blow and God demonstrates that humans may plan and scheme but He Alone is the best of planners.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55442192




Thank you for that post, so many good points in that, and your closing words about humans planning but only God alone is the great planner, reminds me of THIS scripture:





"Remember the first things of a long time ago, that I am the Divine One and there is no other God, nor anyone like me; 10 the One telling from the beginning the finale, and from long ago the things that have not been done; the One saying, ‘My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do’; 11 the One calling from the sunrising a bird of prey, from a distant land the man to execute my counsel. I have even spoken [it]; I shall also bring it in. I have formed [it], I shall also do it.'-Isaiah 46:9-11

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