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2 people listed as passengers on missing Malaysia Airlines plane were not on board, Austrian and Italian officials say.

 
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U.S. officials tell NBC News that stolen passports raise terror concerns about missing Malaysia airliner

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No emergency means quick, sudden event + Stolen passports + recent China attacks. This 2012 event comes to mind:

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2 people listed as passengers on missing Malaysia Airlines plane were not on board, Austrian and Italian officials say.
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And now the games (and theories) begin!
 Quoting: Wash


Yep, Fox news said this morning the plane had a special transponder that relayed a signal real time of everything going on on the plane. Even made the point to say if the toilet flushed authories on the ground would know - the problem is this transponder was shut off and no one knows why or how!

Yep, something VERY fishy here!

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transponders will shut off when they are in a million pieces
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This is bad. As Tony Danza would say.."Thoughts and prayers"
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read here..... we've got this covered since 'bout 20 pages over the last 7 hours or so!!

Thread: BREAKING NEWS:Malaysia Airlines says it 'has lost contact' with plane carrying 239 people (Page 65)


Austrian Christian Kozel
Italian Luigi Maraldi

BOTH had their passport stolen last year in Thailand (possibly in the same hotel along with 4 (rumoured) other passports)........
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Pictures on ID's matched photos on the passports?

Sounds like it was no accident.
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I've never had anyone match my face with my passport at the ticket counter. I carry-on luggage. I rarely check luggage, so I use the self check-in kiosks. I do go through TSA security.

If there was a bomb onboard, you always have to consider workers who have access to the airport, to the luggage and cargo, and to the galleys on the planes.

In many airports, ground workers do not go through security. I've been on airport employee buses where employees park their car in the employee parking lot, board the employee bus, and go through a door at the airport (no security) while carrying duffle bags. I've always wondered why all those guys (ground workers) need large duffle bags to go to work for 8 hours!

And also, the kitchens who serve the galleys on planes, are not inside the airport. Their facilities are on the airport grounds, so no security check is needed for them as far as I know. Anything can be planted in the food/liquor carts/ ovens, etc.

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2 people listed as passengers on missing Malaysia Airlines plane were not on board, Austrian and Italian officials say.
[link to www.cnn.com]


And now the games (and theories) begin!
 Quoting: Wash


the Jews bombed the Malaysia Airlines plane to kill the Hamas Muslim leader !
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Wake up GLP.
Passenger lists are confidential.
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^^^This a million times

When's the last time you ever heard of victims names being released so quickly and also supposedly before they even knew what happened...
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People from TSA, welcome to Malaysia.
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Should read:

Stolen Passports used by passengers aboard missing plane.
 Quoting: First Born


Sorry Bro, just took this headline and went with it.
 Quoting: Wash


It's all good. Just saying... this ups the likelihood of a terrorist event.
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Its been a while since a Boeing commercial jet has been shot down by a missile so I guess it was due.

Flight 007 shot down by missile, Lockerbie bombing, 911 autopiloted into WTC1 & 2 , Long Island missile and now this third shot down by a missile. I think I'll fly Airbus next time.









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Should read:

Stolen Passports used by passengers aboard missing plane.
 Quoting: First Born


Sorry Bro, just took this headline and went with it.
 Quoting: Wash


It's all good. Just saying... this ups the likelihood of a terrorist event.
 Quoting: First Born


By who? CIA Holder Obama?
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Wake up GLP.
Passenger lists are confidential.
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It's listed by name and nationality in another thread here right now.

Apparently not.
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Yes I saw, but my statement is still correct.
This is known as a convenient plot device in scriptwriting. In order for the people whose passports were stolen to stand up and say "I'm still alive, my passport was stolen"... they had to release the passenger list.

However, seemingly, this script is a lousy one as....

Passenger lists are confidential.
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2 people listed as passengers on missing Malaysia Airlines plane were not on board, Austrian and Italian officials say.
[link to www.cnn.com]


And now the games (and theories) begin!
 Quoting: Wash


Yep, Fox news said this morning the plane had a special transponder that relayed a signal real time of everything going on on the plane. Even made the point to say if the toilet flushed authories on the ground would know - the problem is this transponder was shut off and no one knows why or how!

Yep, something VERY fishy here!

yoda
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transponders will shut off when they are in a million pieces
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THIS x 2...
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Should read:

Stolen Passports used by passengers aboard missing plane.
 Quoting: First Born


so either the thieves couldn't escape the hit although they were using fake IDs, or the plane went down but the intended victims are still alive, losing not their lives but their passports

wtf
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The oil slick is 6 miles long--the one off the coast of Viet Nam.

That's a pretty big oil slick.

But where's the debris and such?

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A six mile oil slick if it was in the right current isn't all that long. However, it's odd for a plane to just 'drop out' of the sky.

My lad is studying for his PPL, he's a hell of a lot smart with regard to aviation than myself. He said, "Pop, most planes crash on take off and landing. Unless something takes them out in the sky. It's not impossible, but not likely."

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So the passports got stolen last year. They would of had to report this to be able to leave the country. Also wouldn't the two stolen passports of been red flagged and noticed when they were used this week?
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Was there a plane, lol.
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The oil slick is 6 miles long--the one off the coast of Viet Nam.

That's a pretty big oil slick.

But where's the debris and such?

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 Quoting: Bluebird



A six mile oil slick if it was in the right current isn't all that long. However, it's odd for a plane to just 'drop out' of the sky.

My lad is studying for his PPL, he's a hell of a lot smart with regard to aviation than myself. He said, "Pop, most planes crash on take off and landing. Unless something takes them out in the sky. It's not impossible, but not likely."

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Oil slick? No oil on a commercial jet!

bsflag bsflag bsflag
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Should read:

Stolen Passports used by passengers aboard missing plane.
 Quoting: First Born


Sorry Bro, just took this headline and went with it.
 Quoting: Wash


It's all good. Just saying... this ups the likelihood of a terrorist event.
 Quoting: First Born


I'm thinking its more of another banker rubbout
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One uncertainty about the flight involved when it disappeared from radar and how quickly the search began in the Gulf of Thailand. Malaysia Airlines said that the plane took off at 12:41 a.m. Malaysia time, and that the plane disappeared from air traffic control radar in Subang, a suburb of Kuala Lumpur, at 2:40 a.m.

That timeline seemed to suggest that the plane stayed in the air for two hours — long enough to fly not only across the Gulf of Thailand but also far north across Vietnam. But Mr. Lindahl of Flightradar 24 said that the last radar contact had been at 1:19 a.m., less than 40 minutes after the flight began.

finding a lot of reports saying plane was aloft only 40 min's not 2 hours

a lot of strangeness going on with the incident
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Wake up GLP.
Passenger lists are confidential.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52893433


It's listed by name and nationality in another thread here right now.

Apparently not.
 Quoting: Bluebird

Yes I saw, but my statement is still correct.
This is known as a convenient plot device in scriptwriting. In order for the people whose passports were stolen to stand up and say "I'm still alive, my passport was stolen"... they had to release the passenger list.

However, seemingly, this script is a lousy one as....

Passenger lists are confidential.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52893433


Not once a flight is determined missing and family being notified.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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TERRORISSM....
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The oil slick is 6 miles long--the one off the coast of Viet Nam.

That's a pretty big oil slick.

But where's the debris and such?

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 Quoting: Bluebird



A six mile oil slick if it was in the right current isn't all that long. However, it's odd for a plane to just 'drop out' of the sky.

My lad is studying for his PPL, he's a hell of a lot smart with regard to aviation than myself. He said, "Pop, most planes crash on take off and landing. Unless something takes them out in the sky. It's not impossible, but not likely."

1dunno1
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Oil slick? No oil on a commercial jet!

bsflag bsflag bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 949989





I sure it's a general reference to petroleum products and not specific to any one in particular. They always call it an oil slick even if it is other fuel.

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One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Wake up GLP.
Passenger lists are confidential.
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It's listed by name and nationality in another thread here right now.

Apparently not.
 Quoting: Bluebird

Yes I saw, but my statement is still correct.
This is known as a convenient plot device in scriptwriting. In order for the people whose passports were stolen to stand up and say "I'm still alive, my passport was stolen"... they had to release the passenger list.

However, seemingly, this script is a lousy one as....

Passenger lists are confidential.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52893433


Sort of. Passenger lists are released if a plane crashes. Normally, though, you can't get access to the PAX list.
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CNN on tv just said two passengers may have been traveling on LOST OR STOLEN PASSPORTS! If so this makes terrorism very likely.
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CNN on tv just said two passengers may have been traveling on LOST OR STOLEN PASSPORTS! If so this makes terrorism very likely.
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But I thought Barack Obama was on top of things?
I know who is on board.
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I know who is onboard.

[link to www.malaysiaairlines.com]

Passenger List
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CNN on tv just said two passengers may have been traveling on LOST OR STOLEN PASSPORTS! If so this makes terrorism very likely.
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I have no experience in any of this but if passports got stolen a year ago how were they not flagged? Inside job?
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CNN on tv just said two passengers may have been traveling on LOST OR STOLEN PASSPORTS! If so this makes terrorism very likely.
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I have no experience in any of this but if passports got stolen a year ago how were they not flagged? Inside job?
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We are being told that only the country that issued the passport is likely to even know it has been stolen. That, and as relates to major criminals.

Otherwise, evidently no one is keeping track of this sort of thing.

Pretty stupid, huh?


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