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2014--Economic Collapse Ahead--End Of The World As We Know It--Bye Bye Dollar

 
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Excellent interview with John Williams, the founder of Shadowstats who for 30 years has reported the REAL unemployment rate, the REAL GDP, the REAL inflation rates. What people don't realize is that as these numbers over the years became unpleasant, the government simply manipulated the data and changed the calculations to create an end result more appealing to the masses.

All major economic numbers reported by the government are massaged. For example, we ALL know that unemployment is not 6.7%. The true number is 23.5%.

By using the original methods to compile the numbers, Williams gives us a much more accurate---and honest---look at how dire our situation in America really is.

Here he talks about how close to the cliff we are and what happens to America if Russia really does start dumping dollars and treasury bonds as they have threatened to do if we impose sanctions.


[link to endtimeheadlines.org]

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DOW is rising, all the stock markets are rising..collapse? not this year.
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DOW is rising, all the stock markets are rising..collapse? not this year.
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not any year. they are able to completely detach the illusion from reality. a collapse will never come unless we get hit by world scale natural disaster, which won't happn easily.

oridin
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DOW is rising, all the stock markets are rising..collapse? not this year.
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Listen to the interview. The collapse isn't about stocks. It's much worse than a mere market crash. It's about the end of our currency.
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I had a boss once that told me that metrics big companies use can be manipulated any way they choose. I'm sure the same is true for economic data.
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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
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I had a boss once that told me that metrics big companies use can be manipulated any way they choose. I'm sure the same is true for economic data.
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I've been subscribing to Williams' work for some time. He's been saying that 2014-2017 is when our dollar dies and hyperinflation begins. We all keep looking at the manipulated stock market and missing what's happening with our currency.

We are losing our status as global reserve currency and when that happens, it's game over. What is chilling is that Russia is now threatening to dump treasuries--they know it will set off a chain reaction sell off and tank us.

His interview is well worth your time to get the full picture. It's later than we know.
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I had a boss once that told me that metrics big companies use can be manipulated any way they choose. I'm sure the same is true for economic data.
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I've been subscribing to Williams' work for some time. He's been saying that 2014-2017 is when our dollar dies and hyperinflation begins. We all keep looking at the manipulated stock market and missing what's happening with our currency.

We are losing our status as global reserve currency and when that happens, it's game over. What is chilling is that Russia is now threatening to dump treasuries--they know it will set off a chain reaction sell off and tank us.

His interview is well worth your time to get the full picture. It's later than we know.
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The Fed will simply absorb the treasuries with their fake money created out of thin air. they are the biggest holder of it anyways, what's the big deal if they keep absorbing it. no collapse folks, they will be able to kick the can down the road indefinitely. the concept of collapsing is so last century
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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
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yo it was one brit... but we brits know that your currency affects all currencies

or did you not know that?

oh that's right you yanks think America is the only place worth talking about and know fuck all about the rest of the world...
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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
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More funny wil be your Martial Law.
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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
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YOUR stock market? what are you talking about?

YOUR stock market is from CHINA, RUSIA, EUROPE.

YOUR stock market affects to all the world.

Wait i change the flag for an American to get some respect from you, oh wait i dont' care. MORAN.
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I forgot, your society (USA) will be smashed and then erased from the earth, you will be part of the 3rd World.

Blame to the NWO.
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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
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YOUR stock market? what are you talking about?

YOUR stock market is from CHINA, RUSIA, EUROPE.

YOUR stock market affects to all the world.

Wait i change the flag for an American to get some respect from you, oh wait i dont' care. MORAN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38496707


OK..OK...simmer down.

UK poster is correct. Our stock market and currency do affect much of the world. At least for now.

I do feel, however, that it is about to change.

The stock market is going to the moon for now so when the "reset" occurs, no matter how it occurs, it will level off higher than it would have otherwise.

I am figuring around 7500 or so for the DOW.

Inflation on the other hand, will be just terrible. Unemployment will also be terrible as well.

I do not have a crystal ball, but it is going to happen. Just don't know when exactly. I do expect it in 2014 though
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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
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YOUR stock market? what are you talking about?

YOUR stock market is from CHINA, RUSIA, EUROPE.

YOUR stock market affects to all the world.

Wait i change the flag for an American to get some respect from you, oh wait i dont' care. MORAN.
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Agree---the world will suffer as a result of our squandered excess and stupidity. Please know more Americans than you think were against this deliberate destruction of the American--and by extension--world economic system.
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Russia only holds around 140 billion in US treasury bonds. That is not enough to cause any serious disruption to the US economy. If China on the other hand joins in selling, that could cause a serious situation.

[link to www.treasury.gov]
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Russia only holds around 140 billion in US treasury bonds. That is not enough to cause any serious disruption to the US economy. If China on the other hand joins in selling, that could cause a serious situation.

[link to www.treasury.gov]
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Watch the video.
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great video
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the stock market is one big lump of manipulated dung

perfume and makeup are hardly accurate indicators of a robust economy
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More accurately, bye, bye Federal Reserve Note.

Our new treasury dollars will be gold/asset backed. That is suppose to happen within the next week or two.
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Excellent interview with John Williams, the founder of Shadowstats who for 30 years has reported the REAL unemployment rate, the REAL GDP, the REAL inflation rates. What people don't realize is that as these numbers over the years became unpleasant, the government simply manipulated the data and changed the calculations to create an end result more appealing to the masses.

All major economic numbers reported by the government are massaged. For example, we ALL know that unemployment is not 6.7%. The true number is 23.5%.

By using the original methods to compile the numbers, Williams gives us a much more accurate---and honest---look at how dire our situation in America really is.

Here he talks about how close to the cliff we are and what happens to America if Russia really does start dumping dollars and treasury bonds as they have threatened to do if we impose sanctions.


[link to endtimeheadlines.org]
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No economic collapse, a war is on the horizon. History has taught us a lesson.. War is money. Sad but true...
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More accurately, bye, bye Federal Reserve Note.

Our new treasury dollars will be gold/asset backed. That is suppose to happen within the next week or two.
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Do you have anything to corroborate this?
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More accurately, bye, bye Federal Reserve Note.

Our new treasury dollars will be gold/asset backed. That is suppose to happen within the next week or two.
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Do you have anything to corroborate this?
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More so with regard to the timing than anything else.
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Based on the theory of cycles, every 7 years there is a major event that leads to a paradigm shift. For example, in fall of 2001 we had the attack on WTC and the Pentagon. 7 years later, 2008, we had the collapse of Lehman Brothers. 7 years later...well that would be 2015. WE SHALL SEE.
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DOW is rising, all the stock markets are rising..collapse? not this year.
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not any year. they are able to completely detach the illusion from reality. a collapse will never come unless we get hit by world scale natural disaster, which won't happn easily.

oridin
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Unless they choose to crash things and starve out the useless eaters.
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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
 Quoting: Black Unit


I don't see it as unusual at all.
There are traders all over the planet who
trade US markets. And, there are ample traders in the US
who trade foreign markets. The interweb collapses the outsider
argument.

JMHRO


Cheers
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That's a pretty creepy picture!

Thanks to whomever for the pin!
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DOW is rising, all the stock markets are rising..collapse? not this year.
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You're thinking. Stop it.
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Canadian billionaire predicts end of US Dollar as world's reserve currency




BIllionaire Frank Giustra Predicts U.S. Dollar Will Be Replaced As World's Reserve Currency


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Hilarious how fast the shills showed up.

Anyone else think it's funny that British posters are commenting on our stock market?
 Quoting: Black Unit


They're sounding a bit shrill, the Meta data since Q4 has been terrible.

They're fixing to yank the rug out from under this...
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DOW is rising, all the stock markets are rising..collapse? not this year.
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yes yes

everything is rising but wages. Youare right.

It is called "inflation".

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