The two witnesses of revelation: I will give you a hint

That's not true, 22 DOES NOT EQUAL 11+11.
In sacred Geometrical Terms, the Number 22 is the COMPLETE AND UTTER OPPOSITE WITH, AND, FROM, AT, THE NUMBER'S 11+11.

^this^

1+1 = 2 1+1 = 2
11:11 = 4 not 11+11

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The death was during the French Revolution. The Bible was temporarily "dead". You really need to take some University courses and get a bit of history.

Those without spiritual discernment only understand what they were taught by man. I was taught this by our lord Jesus. It could be possible that the Bible was dead at that time but the word of God is eternal and even if you rip one up and throw it into the fire it is still embedded into your heart. Jesus is the word of God made flesh. What I have learned has nothing to do with pagan/gnostic teachings.


This information was supposed to benefit those who he wanted it to benefit. This not my OPINION, this is what I have been taught which is TRUTH. Even so, all will be revealed soon enough.




11:11- 2 become one flesh:

We are entering the spiritual Noah's Ark two by two like in the days of Noah. When it says these two MEN it excludes who they are married to because TWO become ONE flesh.

AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; so they are no longer two, but one flesh. "What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." Mark 10:9



Ask for revelation. Assumptions is what's causing the church to fall away from SOUND doctrine. From the false pre tribulation rapture doctrine to saying the two witnesses are the new and old testament, none of that is wisdom from the lords mouth. Mans wisdom is foolish.

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In the world of men the revolution cast off restraint and the New and Old Testament lay dead in the street. A sentiment of the time was there would be no freedom until the last lawyer was hung by the entrails of the last priest.

Are you saying there are four witnesses in total? Four human beings?

Two married couples that is. The third Adam and Eve = 1
The first Adam and Eve = 1 + 1 = 2 witnesses in all

just how do we discern all this trouble
to be from the son of perdition
or a witness ?
a parallax/paradox

Interesting. That thought crossed my mind last year and I asked it on I thnk a waterman thread about the two witnesses. Who knows..

interesting! third adam and eve--Jesus being the second Adam--who would be the third adam? The manchild? and are u saying the first adam and eve will be there?

BUMP

And by "spiritual discernment" you really mean those that agree with your nonsense, right?

Wrong.

The witnesses declare Law and Judgement and Christ

to Israel and the world.

Declare Law and Judgement and bear witness to Christ.


As if you know better.

*whispers* waterman

Well hello... "California" man. *eyes*

I was taught that the two witnesses were the old and new testament. It was to be read in allegory and not literal people. Your thoughts please.

Well, if Snowden & Assange got religion they'd be in like Flynn....

The Two Witnesses are easy, and it doesn't take any mathematics to figure them out.

They are The Old Testament, and The New Testament, standing side by side proclaiming Jesus Christ as Messiah.

The Events portrayed in Revelation, will come to pass when things on earth are so bad, that Christianity itself is almost forgotten; until it is rediscovered and The Bible makes a revival during an era of a New World Order.

The One World Leader however, will not have it, as this will be a Man who demands the World worship him; he will collect up all the Bibles he can find and have them burned in the streets of Jerusalem; where people will scorn them and walk over them...

But 3 Days Later (3000 Years Later) The Bible will again be rediscovered, and be taken up into Heaven before all to see.

You are correct about the identification of the 2 witnesses but your time line and location is a bit off.

Revelation 11 : 8 clearly refers to the location as "spiritually" not literally.

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified

The events of the 2 witnesses have already transpired.

November-1793 FRANCE VOTES RELIGION AND BIBLE OUT
June-1797 FRANCE VOTES RELIGION AND BIBLE BACK IN

3 and a half years , or 3 1/2 prophetic days.

The french revolution lead to the modern spread of atheism.
But also, after the witnesses were raised, it lead to the printing of the bible on a massive global scale.

A good short study on the matter using Biblical jurisprudence and historic record can be read at this link.

[link to www.remnantofgod.org]

7 churches-7 candles

2 witnesses- 2 candles

144,000

Too funny.

Do people actually believe that God Almighty can't come up with actual human witnesses with the Holy Spirit to fulfill this prophecy?

It reminds me of the false rapture doctrine. Only those Christians of olden days actually had to suffer and die for God.

It's the fuzzy bunny Jesus doctrine!

We'll see who the true Christians are as the going gets tough.

God could raise only 2 witnesses to fulfill this, but that is not the point of the prophecy.

Gods end time preachers alive at His coming will number 144,000.

Nothing fuzzy bunny about it.

You are at least honest, and therefore there is hope for you.

PehJeshuah, God's witness would like to meet you!

May it be asked

The bible clearly states that they are two MEN not two testaments and not two groups of people.

Which verse states clearly the witnesses are men?

Revelation 11 : 3 - 12

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

What you are calling nonsense is truth. Everyone in this thread with eyes to see will see it all come to pass shortly.

You are possessed with the evil spirit of Jezebel. Woe to you and your lies.

Be careful what you call an evil spirit. Jesus said; Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.