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WTF!? Flight 370- stays in the air for 4 hours after last confirmed location - credible report - WTF!?

 
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Still a few classic 737's (-500, 400 300, 200's) flying and likely safe from EMP's to some degree.

It's a different world we live in now to even have to think about this stuff :(
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Image showing area plane could have gone in four hours after last known location...
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Anyone have a map that shows four hours in any direction from the last known location?

This whole thing just keeps getting more and more bizarre. I knew something was up when they broke into programming on NBC just to announce the flight had disappeared from the map. It wasn't normal. Planes crash. Not often, but it happens enough that there isn't breaking news each time. This was before the story even got weird.

Has anything been found out about the two Ukrainians on board?
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Top speed 950km per hour, lets take 700 to be conservative. 4 x 700 = 2800km or a bit more than half the width of the US.

2800km from Malaysia puts China, India, SL, the Maldives, Phillipines, Indonesia, Taiwan, Nepal, Laos, Cambodia etc all in play - even Chrismas Island (Oz territory, really close to Indonesia - we keep it to retain LNG gas rights south of it).

Be a bit less conservative and say it was travelling at 800km/hr, and it could have reached Australia (the highly secretive Harold Holt 'Communication' Station on our NW bit at least).
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THE STOLEN PASSPORTS!!!!!!!

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Image showing area plane could have gone in four hours after last known location...
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noice. better than my text :P
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This is exactly what I've been saying for days! Every since the relatives said the passengers cell phones were still ringing. Damn US intelligence is slow.
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Iranian pilot, fake passports supplied by another Iranian, transponder switched off, flown for another 4 hrs.

Most obvious surmise is that this is intended to be used by Iran as a sneak delivery attack of an EMP for the US.


This is why they are pretending not to know what happened - for the US to acknowledge it, means instant full on, war with Iran and besides I expect Obama and co were fully on board with EMP'ing the US.

Did they execute all the passengers or are they holding them somewhere!?
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Anyone have a map that shows four hours in any direction from the last known location?
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It would be closer to 5 hours, @ 600 mph gives 3000 miles range. That lands it smack in Xinjiang province, northwest China, home to separatist Uighur groups. They could have flown through very desolate territory: Burma, Bhutan, eastern China..

“Aviation security has been breached. ETIM is the only group with the operational capacity and intent to carry out attacks like this,” he adds, referring to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a shadowy Uighur group whose existence some other international security experts dispute.

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unbelievable... there is a new story every single day... dozens of leads so far all turned out to be BS. we are all being led on and we're eating it up, generating millions of dollars in media revenue. was it the pilot? was he mentally unstable? wait, what about the fake passports? let's photoshop the same pair of fake legs on the 'terrorists'. the pilots were smoking in the cockpit. it was the iranians. the black box. NO, the phones are ringing. nvm, it took a sharp west turn. wait, no it didn't just kidding. there was also an oil slick. oh, it was nothing. they're going to change the search area now okay guys. a fisherman saw the plane go down. wait it was the 20 tech agency members on the plane. hold on, the chinese are very shy reserved people and they have just released these photographs taken four days ago of debris, look very closely now they must be part of the plane if the chinese released them carefully. let's just wait a day or two though, dozens of countries have satellites that can photograph other solar systems and galaxies but who the hell knows what's in the water at these exact coordinates. wait, nvm, it was not an aircraft. actually the plane was now in the air for up to 5 hours, our computer readings are now telling us, 6 days later. stay tuned for tomorrow's episode.

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good summary!
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Anyone have a map that shows four hours in any direction from the last known location?

This whole thing just keeps getting more and more bizarre. I knew something was up when they broke into programming on NBC just to announce the flight had disappeared from the map. It wasn't normal. Planes crash. Not often, but it happens enough that there isn't breaking news each time. This was before the story even got weird.

Has anything been found out about the two Ukrainians on board?
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Top speed 950km per hour, lets take 700 to be conservative. 4 x 700 = 2800km or a bit more than half the width of the US.

2800km from Malaysia puts China, India, SL, the Maldives, Phillipines, Indonesia, Taiwan, Nepal, Laos, Cambodia etc all in play - even Chrismas Island (Oz territory, really close to Indonesia - we keep it to retain LNG gas rights south of it).

Be a bit less conservative and say it was travelling at 800km/hr, and it could have reached Australia (the highly secretive Harold Holt 'Communication' Station on our NW bit at least).
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So it flew around for four hours at a super low altitude, a very fuel hungry altitude... It had to because dozens of radar stations from a dozen differenet countries would have picked it up. All the military radars would certainly pick it up even if it was at extremely low altitude.

Story doesn't make sense.
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HO LEE SHEET
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so is this thing going to come flying out of the blue at some point in the future and crash into something?
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from yesterday, but nobody noticed when posted
Hindustan Times ‏@htTweets 12h

'Tell the truth' about missing #MH370 , China tells Malaysia, after discrepancies found [link to read.ht] pic.twitter.com/r5vH3GtxhL
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i think malaysian forces downed that plane because they knew it will hit the petronas towers
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How it is so easy to do this?

I mean, all the TSA and scanners and technology isn't worth flip.

In the future everyone needs to be issued a disposable jump suit. You have to disrobe in a dressing room. The bottom few inches of the door is visible so an attendant can watch your clothing hit the floor as you undress. They will bag your clothing and you have to don a jumpsuit.

These can be branded so you can wear your favorite logo from Cocacola, My little Ponies, or whatever. Your jumpsuit can be designed online as long as you plan ahead before you buy your ticket. Companies will pay to have their logo on these and these will be made of some cheap cloth like stuff.

Everyone is basically disrobing and can only wear the jumpsuit. If you don't want to wear it then don't fly. But they won't have to worry about radiation or TSA feeling you up. You only get to wear this jumpsuit and your clothing is locked in lockers until you get back from your trip.

NO i
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ohhh.....i can go one better than that,this should be right up their alley. a gps bracelet that is assigned to the passengers and to the seat number,so when boarding put it on, switch it on, so take it off, switch it off (as it assigned to plane) when departing, so movements on the plane can be noted/observed they do it everywhere fucken else now anyway. a realtime cam back from the dashboard of the cockpit,and gallery.and i would also consider that their was maybe data on how to land a jet on the water, did it right in front of our eyes a few years ago in a river, so the data from that can be program simulated,how to electronic cloak is the question,taking it out of that frequency, may have been in one of those passengers bag or laptop or app.
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Plane was shot down after it was hijacked.

Mission Failed.
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I am guessing that China own this story, they are going to media bamboozle us by finding it, then their experts will tell us what happened.

Now we have to listen to them in South East Asia.
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How it is so easy to do this?

I mean, all the TSA and scanners and technology isn't worth flip.

In the future everyone needs to be issued a disposable jump suit. You have to disrobe in a dressing room. The bottom few inches of the door is visible so an attendant can watch your clothing hit the floor as you undress. They will bag your clothing and you have to don a jumpsuit.

These can be branded so you can wear your favorite logo from Cocacola, My little Ponies, or whatever. Your jumpsuit can be designed online as long as you plan ahead before you buy your ticket. Companies will pay to have their logo on these and these will be made of some cheap cloth like stuff.

Everyone is basically disrobing and can only wear the jumpsuit. If you don't want to wear it then don't fly. But they won't have to worry about radiation or TSA feeling you up. You only get to wear this jumpsuit and your clothing is locked in lockers until you get back from your trip.

NO i
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24594875

ohhh.....i can go one better than that,this should be right up their alley. a gps bracelet that is assigned to the passengers and to the seat number,so when boarding put it on, switch it on, so take it off, switch it off (as it assigned to plane) when departing, so movements on the plane can be noted/observed they do it everywhere fucken else now anyway. a realtime cam back from the dashboard of the cockpit,and gallery.and i would also consider that their was maybe data on how to land a jet on the water, did it right in front of our eyes a few years ago in a river, so the data from that can be program simulated,how to electronic cloak is the question,taking it out of that frequency, may have been in one of those passengers bag or laptop or app.
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oh i also thought of visual prisms you know phosphorescent in some decription. , if a plane is in trouble they can drop highly reflective prism dust in a trail behind them, it would have to be in the fine mu range, capable of floating and detected immediately by light. just my 2 cents worth.
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So reports it just turned up North West of Bermuda are false then?
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This is exactly what I've been saying for days! Every since the relatives said the passengers cell phones were still ringing. Damn US intelligence is slow.
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Being "slow" has nothing to do with. Every accident investigation board is aware of all methods of data capture. In which case, the RR engines data capture is fully known by all of them. In which case, it would have taken 5 minutes to confirm that data packets had continued being received and this would have been checked immediately.

So what is happening is that they are probably deliberately giving "time" so that the plane can disappear. These groups are not "slow" or incompetent.

All we have to do is look at the flight number to see that it's disappearance was planned.

All reports still indicate that the plane disappeared around 1:30am on 8th march 2014.
Look at the flight number:
MH370
13.8.3.7.0.
13.8.3 7.0

2014 = 7
Malaysian date format is m/d/y
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the extra 4-5 hours of data from rolls royce only raises more questions - same theme with all the announcements it seems . ACARS uses the same transmitter as the engine data (i believe) so where is the 'missing' ACARS data ? RR have not said how the data flow ended - ie full throttle and low EGT indicates fuel starvation - or did the last data package indicate a normal shutdown ? they are not saying . the announcement uses the words 'we suspect' so nothing is confirmed . raises the question - why release un-confirmed info . obfuscation at its finest . this must be hell for the families but unfortunately this whole affair is starting to stink .
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S what were they doing for 4 hours?????
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Well, this is a little disconcerting for me. I had a nightmare last night that a plane crashed nose first here in Wichita, KS, and as we were engulfed in flames, I remember thinking to myself "Well, they did it. They took Wichita out." I shot straight up in bed knowing that the plane was this missing plane and that it had a nuke on it and they flew it into the ground here in Wichita with intent. I hope it's not a premonition. It seemed so real to me. Don't like the quote where they think it was taken to be used for something else.
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Reality will get weirder for many to swallow after 2012. Someone very special who once patronized GLP said something along the lines.

You know who I'm talking about ;)
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Iranian pilot, fake passports supplied by another Iranian, transponder switched off, flown for another 4 hrs.

Most obvious surmise is that this is intended to be used by Iran as a sneak delivery attack of an EMP for the US.


This is why they are pretending not to know what happened - for the US to acknowledge it, means instant full on, war with Iran and besides I expect Obama and co were fully on board with EMP'ing the US.

Did they execute all the passengers or are they holding them somewhere!?
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Do you know how crazy you sound? On a board full of crazy people? You have gone so far off the deep end that you truly believe that Iran could steal a plane and then SNEAK it into American airspace? I won't even go into the fact that you also believe American officials where complacent. Wow. Just wow. Get help.
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Could it all be just a test run to see if 'their' plan works. Now it turns out it worked and wait till the real plan can be conducted?
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Iranian pilot, fake passports supplied by another Iranian, transponder switched off, flown for another 4 hrs.

Most obvious surmise is that this is intended to be used by Iran as a sneak delivery attack of an EMP for the US.


This is why they are pretending not to know what happened - for the US to acknowledge it, means instant full on, war with Iran and besides I expect Obama and co were fully on board with EMP'ing the US.

Did they execute all the passengers or are they holding them somewhere!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55473965


Do you know how crazy you sound? On a board full of crazy people? You have gone so far off the deep end that you truly believe that Iran could steal a plane and then SNEAK it into American airspace? I won't even go into the fact that you also believe American officials where complacent. Wow. Just wow. Get help.
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Ever hear of a little thing called 9/11 where government officials most definitely were involved and/or stood by while it happened? I personally believe that if this is the case and this plane does get used in the US that it was clearly taken by our government (or with the full support of and knowledge of our government) with the intent of framing another government.

Edited to add "(or with the full support of and knowledge of our government)" to clarify my position there.

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the extra 4-5 hours of data from rolls royce only raises more questions - same theme with all the announcements it seems . ACARS uses the same transmitter as the engine data (i believe) so where is the 'missing' ACARS data ? RR have not said how the data flow ended - ie full throttle and low EGT indicates fuel starvation - or did the last data package indicate a normal shutdown ? they are not saying . the announcement uses the words 'we suspect' so nothing is confirmed . raises the question - why release un-confirmed info . obfuscation at its finest . this must be hell for the families but unfortunately this whole affair is starting to stink .
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bingo. there is much more data RR has that they haven't shared. And people, when trying to figure out the range, you need to remember to convert to nautical miles from miles, and use speed in knots and not miles per hour. Also have to take in to account their groundspeed and not just the filed cruise speed. Also need to know what altitude they were flying at during those 4 hours, and also I haven't found one source that shows exactly the takeoff gross weight or the fuel they loaded on board.
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Re: WTF!? Flight 370- stays in the air for 4 hours after last confirmed location - credible report - WTF!?
Iranian pilot, fake passports supplied by another Iranian, transponder switched off, flown for another 4 hrs.

Most obvious surmise is that this is intended to be used by Iran as a sneak delivery attack of an EMP for the US.


This is why they are pretending not to know what happened - for the US to acknowledge it, means instant full on, war with Iran and besides I expect Obama and co were fully on board with EMP'ing the US.

Did they execute all the passengers or are they holding them somewhere!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55473965


Do you know how crazy you sound? On a board full of crazy people? You have gone so far off the deep end that you truly believe that Iran could steal a plane and then SNEAK it into American airspace? I won't even go into the fact that you also believe American officials where complacent. Wow. Just wow. Get help.
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Ever hear of a little thing called 9/11 where government officials most definitely were involved and/or stood by while it happened. I personally believe that if this is the case and this plane does get used in the US that it was clearly taken by our government (or with the full support of and knowledge of our government) with the intent of framing another government.

Edited to add "(or with the full support of and knowledge of our government)" to clarify my position there.
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Oh this should be good... please explain to us sheeple how exactly the Iranian government (or the US government for that matter) is going to SNEAK a plane into US airspace?

And if the US Government wanted to frame Iran with a plane, there are much easier ways to go about it.

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