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WTF!? Flight 370- stays in the air for 4 hours after last confirmed location - credible report - WTF!?

 
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The area between two tower's contact ranges can be extremely far. He wouldn't sign off from one and then directly onto another.
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Yes they do. Planes are in contact the whole flight whether it be ground, tower, approach, departure, center, oceanic...

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I've been walking aimlessly around circles and attending to my tomato plants from time to time.

For what's going on...

Know one knows..
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Continue walk.
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US shot down this plane by accident with an AEGIS ship
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[link to online.wsj.com]

first paragraph:
"U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky."

The "reality" we experience seems to have nothing to do with what really happens.

pin it.
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That's what happens when you enter interdimensional portholes.

Thread: The flight MH370 vanished near the intersection of a massive grid of ley lines in the Gulf of Thailand.
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There is at least one country that tracks evrything that moves on this planet....if they say they don't know where that plane went......that can only mean one thing....they are in on it.
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DIEGO GARCIA.... Look at trajectory.
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cool2
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[link to online.wsj.com]
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Very interesting, this could explain why some cell phones were still ringing, the plane was hijacked and landed safely somewhere not far from a transmission tower.
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NO.

This ringing-phones business has been thoroughly and credibly explained by independent experts both formally and informally all over the net. [link to www.csmonitor.com]

“Basically the carrier is placing you on hold while it searches for the other phone, and the sound you hear instead of hold music is ringing,” Mr. Kagan explains.

This can even happen when a phone is destroyed, waterlogged, out of network, or entirely off, he says. The phones won’t stop ringing until the carrier terminates the phone number.


“That [could] put false hope in the minds of families who are desperately trying to reach their loved ones,” he says.


So, stop the obsession with illusory ringing phones! Enough already
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Discredited my butt! You're easy. People like you are why they got away with 911, dummy.

When a phone is turned off and you call it, it goes right to voice mail. But when you call it and it is on but just not answered, it rings several times before going to voice mail.

In other words, if battery is dead, phone is off, or phone is broken (as i under water, for instance), then you have no ringing, it just just goes right to voice mail. If it is on, battery working, and phone not broken (not at bottom of the sea), then you hear four or five rings before it goes to voice mail.

Try it out for yourself.
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It flew around for 5 hours covering up to 2200 nautical miles and yet nobody's radar got a bounce back off of it...?

So it flew a few hundred feet or less off of the ocean for five hours? That's one hell of a pilot - he should be flying a B1 or a Tornado.

Sounds like wild conjecture or purposeful BS to me.
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How it is so easy to do this?

I mean, all the TSA and scanners and technology isn't worth flip.

In the future everyone needs to be issued a disposable jump suit. You have to disrobe in a dressing room. The bottom few inches of the door is visible so an attendant can watch your clothing hit the floor as you undress. They will bag your clothing and you have to don a jumpsuit.

These can be branded so you can wear your favorite logo from Cocacola, My little Ponies, or whatever. Your jumpsuit can be designed online as long as you plan ahead before you buy your ticket. Companies will pay to have their logo on these and these will be made of some cheap cloth like stuff.

Everyone is basically disrobing and can only wear the jumpsuit. If you don't want to wear it then don't fly. But they won't have to worry about radiation or TSA feeling you up. You only get to wear this jumpsuit and your clothing is locked in lockers until you get back from your trip.

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"U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection..."


[link to www.thehindu.com]
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Finally!!! I have thought that it could have flown to Burma. I did not check the mileage on that because I am not that motivated. However, since it seemed to turn around, and they lost all comms, it makes sense tome that we will see the plane again used as a giant weapon. The plane thing seems to work for the terrorists, probably why they keep doing it. As I asked on another thread...would you let that plane land at your airport of it reappeared? Totally just a feeling and speculation.
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1. As our resident pilot said - there is no information out there detailing exactly how much fuel there was on board. They must keep track of that stuff.

2. If the plane was taken to be used in another purpose - it would have to be terrorists. Countries can just buy a plane and repaint it. Or a false flag from a country - still terrorism.
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Very interesting, this could explain why some cell phones were still ringing, the plane was hijacked and landed safely somewhere not far from a transmission tower.
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NO.

This ringing-phones business has been thoroughly and credibly explained by independent experts both formally and informally all over the net. [link to www.csmonitor.com]

“Basically the carrier is placing you on hold while it searches for the other phone, and the sound you hear instead of hold music is ringing,” Mr. Kagan explains.

This can even happen when a phone is destroyed, waterlogged, out of network, or entirely off, he says. The phones won’t stop ringing until the carrier terminates the phone number.


“That [could] put false hope in the minds of families who are desperately trying to reach their loved ones,” he says.


So, stop the obsession with illusory ringing phones! Enough already
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So what if the family members had the same carrier as their passenger loved one? When I put my phone on airplane mode or turn it off off and call from my husbands phone it goes straight to vm under both circumstances. Same goes for when I call it from a land line under both circumstances or when I call it from another carriers cellphone though . I've tried all of the above over the last few days just to see.
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Anyone have a map that shows four hours in any direction from the last known location?


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Would also need to know how fast the jet was traveling
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Malaysian military confirms spotting a rogue aircraft after MH370 vanished, envoy says

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 13 March, 2014, 6:57pm

UPDATED : Thursday, 13 March, 2014, 7:03pm

The Malaysian ambassador Iskandar Sarudin (inset), in a phone call to a military source, said the military detected an unidentified aircraft at 0240 hours. He was photographed at a families-only briefing by The Mirror. Photos: Reuters,

The Malaysian ambassador to China has received confirmation from the Malaysian military that it detected a rogue aircraft but denied rumours it was shot down.

Iskandar Sarudin, faced with the frustrated families of Chinese passengers, called up an unidentified military source to dispel rumours from social media that the aircraft was shot down – and that it could have been the Beijing-bound flight.

Speaking at a Malaysia Airlines morning briefing for families on Thursday at Beijing’s Lido Hotel, Sarudin was bombarded by questions from concerned relatives.

The military confirmed spotting the unidentified aircraft on their radar about an hour and 20 minutes after MH370’s signal went cold on Saturday, the ambassador said, relaying the information.

On news it was shot down, the families pressed, “Yes or no?”, until the Malaysian military official gave a categorical “no”, the Beijing Times reported.

However, a Malaysia Airlines representative at the same briefing said the military had not determined if it was the missing airplane, Beijing Times and The Mirror reported.

The military official said the rogue aircraft was not deemed a threat, otherwise it would have notified its response teams, The Mirror quoted the ambassador as saying.

The press was barred from the briefing, but some mainland correspondents managed to get accounts and pictures from the event. They posted these on their newspapers’ Sina Weibo accounts.

The families also asked about the mental health of the pilots, Captain Zaharie Shah and co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid. Shah had more than 18,300 hours of flight experience while Hamid had 2,800 hours.

Malaysia Airlines said their investigation into the crew had not brought up anything unusual.

[link to www.scmp.com]
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Holy shit this is crazy!!! @mpoppel: WSJ sources: US investigators pursuing theory that missing airliner was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose"
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GET THE FUCK OUTA HERE!!! HOLY SHIT WE WERE RIGHT!!!!!

tiemunchdamnedhiding
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You heard it first here, folks....
GLP on the right track again!!
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yup and if the reported plane that was on fire was the missing plane...then why didn't they radio in for help...this is much much more than a plane that might have crashed into the ocean..much more
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yep ^this,

if that guy on the oil rig is correct - the plane was descending while on fire - the pilot could have just flick the mayday switch. unless the fire has burnt that switch panel.
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Holy shit this is crazy!!! @mpoppel: WSJ sources: US investigators pursuing theory that missing airliner was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose"
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GET THE FUCK OUTA HERE!!! HOLY SHIT WE WERE RIGHT!!!!!

tiemunchdamnedhiding
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You heard it first here, folks....
GLP on the right track again!!
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BUT that whole theory is B>S>.

if they wanted to use a plane for something - why not just get one from the deserts of CA.. every year they retire hundreds of plane. Just do one up and re-birth it. why go that extraordinary length
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If the engine trend/powerplant engineering data from ACARS was not disabled it likely spewed data until the end which was a crash or as I think a landing after a hijack in extreme eastern Africa probably Somalia.
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Trent engines have their own comm link sending real-time performance data back to the UK via VHF or satellite. That data is somewhere.
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Holy shit this is crazy!!! @mpoppel: WSJ sources: US investigators pursuing theory that missing airliner was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose"
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GET THE FUCK OUTA HERE!!! HOLY SHIT WE WERE RIGHT!!!!!

tiemunchdamnedhiding
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You heard it first here, folks....
GLP on the right track again!!
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BUT that whole theory is B>S>.

if they wanted to use a plane for something - why not just get one from the deserts of CA.. every year they retire hundreds of plane. Just do one up and re-birth it. why go that extraordinary length
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Spooks already have unnumbered planes of virtually any type.
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If the engine trend/powerplant engineering data from ACARS was not disabled it likely spewed data until the end which was a crash or as I think a landing after a hijack in extreme eastern Africa probably Somalia.
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Trent engines have their own comm link sending real-time performance data back to the UK via VHF or satellite. That data is somewhere.
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Malaysia's President was quick to deny it was in the air for 4 hrs.
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Holy shit this is crazy!!! @mpoppel: WSJ sources: US investigators pursuing theory that missing airliner was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose"
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GET THE FUCK OUTA HERE!!! HOLY SHIT WE WERE RIGHT!!!!!

tiemunchdamnedhiding
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You heard it first here, folks....
GLP on the right track again!!
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BUT that whole theory is B>S>.

if they wanted to use a plane for something - why not just get one from the deserts of CA.. every year they retire hundreds of plane. Just do one up and re-birth it. why go that extraordinary length
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They weren't after the plane itself...they were after a person(s) on board...for their particular expertise.
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This may all be an elaborate hoax to further
the career of Richard Quest. jk.
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If it was hijacked by someone other than the flight crew, wouldn't one of the pilots have attempted to send out the code for a hijacking before the flight was completely taken over? (I know maybe there wasn't enough time..). This makes me think that one of the flight crew took this plane somewhere.
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If it was hijacked by someone other than the flight crew, wouldn't one of the pilots have attempted to send out the code for a hijacking before the flight was completely taken over? (I know maybe there wasn't enough time..). This makes me think that one of the flight crew took this plane somewhere.
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u could be on the money - since the money since the first house the malaysian police raided was the pilot's
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Just heard black box has 24 days of battery life left.
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If it was hijacked by someone other than the flight crew, wouldn't one of the pilots have attempted to send out the code for a hijacking before the flight was completely taken over? (I know maybe there wasn't enough time..). This makes me think that one of the flight crew took this plane somewhere.
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That doesn't explain Boeing not being able to tract the engines

Doesn't explain the fuckery of the US going on a fools errand after what the Chinese claim to be remnants of the airline and not the Chinese (who have more nationals aboard this flight and discovered these remnants) going on this search themselves.

Doesn't explain how the US didn't use its powerful satellites to confirm what the Chinese saw at these coordinates and thus saving us time and themselves the efforts which have now turned out to be to no avail.

Doesn't explain how CNN is reporting that an admiral on the 7th fleet on a US ship is watching CNN and making decisions as to where the wreckage is based on the fuzzy images the Chinese supplied.

Doesn't explain how a company could put 20 of its employees on the same flight.

I mean I could go on and on but you should get the gist.
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Anyone have a map that shows four hours in any direction from the last known location?

This whole thing just keeps getting more and more bizarre. I knew something was up when they broke into programming on NBC just to announce the flight had disappeared from the map. It wasn't normal. Planes crash. Not often, but it happens enough that there isn't breaking news each time. This was before the story even got weird.

Has anything been found out about the two Ukrainians on board?
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The pilot had a simulator in his house. I'm sure he practiced over and over until he had the scenario perfected, depending upon what his ultimate destination was.

Top speed 950km per hour, lets take 700 to be conservative. 4 x 700 = 2800km or a bit more than half the width of the US.

2800km from Malaysia puts China, India, SL, the Maldives, Phillipines, Indonesia, Taiwan, Nepal, Laos, Cambodia etc all in play - even Chrismas Island (Oz territory, really close to Indonesia - we keep it to retain LNG gas rights south of it).

Be a bit less conservative and say it was travelling at 800km/hr, and it could have reached Australia (the highly secretive Harold Holt 'Communication' Station on our NW bit at least).
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So it flew around for four hours at a super low altitude, a very fuel hungry altitude... It had to because dozens of radar stations from a dozen differenet countries would have picked it up. All the military radars would certainly pick it up even if it was at extremely low altitude.

Story doesn't make sense.
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Related agendas
First agenda is the classic "more 'security' measures needed", in this case biometric scans, part of the BIG BROTHER police state agenda.
Other agendas:
- the "aliens disclosure", that has also TV channels from National Geographic to History Channel non-stop serving the "aliens" broken record as yet another part of "science".
- fake wars between puppets (example: China v Vietnam over islands) suddenly replaced by the now required "cooperation between states".
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It definitely serves all three.
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If it was hijacked by someone other than the flight crew, wouldn't one of the pilots have attempted to send out the code for a hijacking before the flight was completely taken over? (I know maybe there wasn't enough time..). This makes me think that one of the flight crew took this plane somewhere.
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u could be on the money - since the money since the first house the malaysian police raided was the pilot's
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Yes, sounds like it was stolen.

It still should be able to be tracked by some other countries radar though. Its hard to believe the whole fucken world is as incompetent as our present gov.
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If it was hijacked by someone other than the flight crew, wouldn't one of the pilots have attempted to send out the code for a hijacking before the flight was completely taken over? (I know maybe there wasn't enough time..). This makes me think that one of the flight crew took this plane somewhere.
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u could be on the money - since the money since the first house the malaysian police raided was the pilot's
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Yes, sounds like it was stolen.

It still should be able to be tracked by some other countries radar though. Its hard to believe the whole fucken world is as incompetent as our present gov.
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No it wasn't.

That doesn't explain Boeing not being able to track the engines.

Doesn't explain the fuckery of the US going on a fools errand after what the Chinese claim to be remnants of the airline and not the Chinese (who have more nationals aboard this flight and discovered these remnants) going on this search themselves.

Doesn't explain how the US didn't use its powerful satellites to confirm what the Chinese saw at these coordinates and thus saving us time and themselves the efforts which have now turned out to be to no avail.

Doesn't explain how CNN is reporting that an admiral on the 7th fleet on a US ship is watching CNN and making decisions as to where the wreckage is based on the fuzzy images the Chinese supplied.

Doesn't explain how a company could put 20 of its employees on the same flight.

I mean I could go on and on but you should get the gist.
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Best actor award for "bumbling old fool impersonation" goes to....

Clint Eastwood at the RNC

"   EASTWOOD:  They are always devil's advocating this and
bifurcating this and bifurcating that.  You know all that stuff.
But, I think it is maybe time -- what do you think -- for maybe
a businessman.  How about that?
   (APPLAUSE)
   A stellar businessman.  Quote, unquote, ``a stellar
businessman.''
   And I think it's that time.  And I think if you just step
aside and Mr. Romney can kind of take over.  You can maybe still
use a plane.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Though maybe a smaller one.  Not that big gas guzzler you
are going around to colleges and talking about student loans and
stuff like that.
   (APPLAUSE)
  

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