Putin's adviser, Alexandr Dugin! The War on Russia in its Ideological Dimension! | |
Be aware (OP) User ID: 53277355 North Macedonia 03/13/2014 04:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Alexander Dugin: Letter to the American People on Ukraine! [link to www.dailystormer.com] Conclusion 1. Now here is what I would say to the American people. The American political elite has tried in this situation as well as in many others to make the Russians hate Americans. But it has failed. We hate the American political elite that brings death, terror, lies and bloodshed everywhere – in Serbia, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Libya, in Syria – and now in Ukraine. We hate the global oligarchy that has usurped America and uses her as its tool. We hate the double standard of their politics where they call “fascist” innocent citizens without any feature resembling fascist ideology and in the same breath deny the open Hitlerists and Bandera admirers the qualification of “Nazi” in the Ukraine. All that the American political elite speaks or creates (with small exceptions) is one big lie. And we hate that lie because the victims of this lie are not only ourselves, but also you the American people. You believe them, you vote for them. You have confidence in them. But they deceive and betray you. 2. We have no thoughts of or desire to hurt America. We are far from you. America is for Americans as President Monroe used to say. For Americans interests and not for others. Not for Russians. Yes, this is quite reasonable. You want to be free. You and all others deserve it. But what the hell you are doing in the capital of ancient Russia, Victoria Nuland? Why do you intervene in our domestic affairs? We follow law and logic, lines of history and respect identities, differences. It is not an American affair. Is it? 3. I am sure that the separation line between Americans and the American political elite is very deep. Any honest American calmly studying the case will arrive to the conclusion: “let them decide for themselves. We are not similar to these strange and wild Russians, but let them go their own way. And we are going to go our own way.” But the American political elite has another agenda: to provoke wars, to mix in regional conflicts, to incite the hatred of different ethnic groups. The American political elites sacrifice American people to causes that are far from you, vague, uncertain and finally very very bad. 4. The American people should not choose to be with Ukrainians (Western Russians – Galitsya,Wolyn) or with Russians (Great Russians). That is not the case. Be with America, with real America, with your values and your people. Help yourselves and let us be what we are. But the American political elite makes the decisions instead of You. It lies to you, it dis-informs you. It shows faked pictures and falsely stages events with completely imagined explanations and idiotic commentary. They lie about us. And they lie about you. They give you a distorted image of yourself. The American political elite has stolen, perverted and counterfeited the American identity. And they make us hate you and they make you hate us. 5. This is my idea and suggestion: let us hate the American political elite together. Let us fight them for our identities – you for the American, us for the Russian, but the enemy is in both cases the same – the global oligarchy who rules the word using you and smashing us. Let us revolt. Let us resist. Together. Russians and Americans. We are the people. We are not their puppets. |
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Be aware (OP) User ID: 53277355 North Macedonia 03/13/2014 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The EU would start a political campaign; all huge western mainstream media would cover this and scandalize that. Dugin: Exactly that´s the case. So it is only about on which side such a group stands. If the group is against Putin, against Yanukovych, against Russia, the ideology of that group is not a problem. If that group supports Putin, Russia or Yanukovych, the ideology immediately becomes a huge problem. It is all about the geopolitical side the group takes. It is nothing but geopolitics. It is a very good lesson what is going on in Ukraine. The lesson tells us: Geopolitics is dominating those conflicts and nothing else. We witness this also with other conflicts for example in Syria, Libya, Egypt, in Caucasian region, Iraq, Iran . . . Any group taking side in favor of the West is a “good” group with no respect if it is extremist? Dugin: Yes and any group taking side against the West – even if this group is secular and moderate – will be called “extremist” by the Western propaganda. This approach exactly dominates the geopolitical battlefields today. You can be the most radical and brutal Salafi fighter, you can hate Jews and eat human organs in front of a camera, as long as you fight for the Western interest against the Syrian government you are a respected and supported ally of the West. When you defend a multi-religious, secular and moderate society, all ideals of the West by the way, but you take position against the Western interest like the Syrian government, you are the enemy. Nobody is interested in what you believe in, it is only about the geopolitical side you chose if you are right or wrong in the eyes of the Western hegemon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5584474 United Kingdom 03/13/2014 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i get it its all about the blame game... labeled and bagged... the people are not like the govs etc... its the same build up to every "little" incursion... yep i get this... however TPTB will not let go of power for anything... no matter whos side they are on... also i am a firm believer that most of this is rhetoric and the situation is only exasperated when they unleash the next big fear mongering issue... and then they just do what they all do best... sacrifice the masses for the sake of ego and riches... who is to say that everything we see is not all orchestrated to make us feel fear make us obey... ideological or not if they get their way people will die... I dont endorse this infiltration i dont hate anyone... apart from the f**ked up tardz who run the world |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52702101 Georgia 03/13/2014 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, great thread. 5* |
Be aware (OP) User ID: 53277355 North Macedonia 03/13/2014 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i get it its all about the blame game... labeled and bagged... the people are not like the govs etc... its the same build up to every "little" incursion... yep i get this... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5584474 however TPTB will not let go of power for anything... no matter whos side they are on... also i am a firm believer that most of this is rhetoric and the situation is only exasperated when they unleash the next big fear mongering issue... and then they just do what they all do best... sacrifice the masses for the sake of ego and riches... who is to say that everything we see is not all orchestrated to make us feel fear make us obey... ideological or not if they get their way people will die... I dont endorse this infiltration i dont hate anyone... apart from the f**ked up tardz who run the world Just spread info to someone who's willing to at least try your view for a second! Most times you will get nothing, but sometimes avalanche may form! |
Be aware (OP) User ID: 53277355 North Macedonia 03/13/2014 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am hoping this thread will come alive soon, because I'm curious to learn the justification for supporting the anti-White, anti-Christian, anti-family, etc., cultural-Marxist West against the traditional values of Putin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52702101 Thanks, great thread. 5* When you defend a multi-religious, secular and moderate society, all ideals of the West by the way, but you take position against the Western interest like the Syrian government, you are the enemy. Nobody is interested in what you believe in, it is only about the geopolitical side you chose if you are right or wrong in the eyes of the Western hegemon. The answer is obvious. |
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mariushdsc User ID: 55544121 Egypt 03/13/2014 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am hoping this thread will come alive soon, because I'm curious to learn the justification for supporting the anti-White, anti-Christian, anti-family, etc., cultural-Marxist West against the traditional values of Putin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52702101 Thanks, great thread. 5* When you defend a multi-religious, secular and moderate society, all ideals of the West by the way, but you take position against the Western interest like the Syrian government, you are the enemy. Nobody is interested in what you believe in, it is only about the geopolitical side you chose if you are right or wrong in the eyes of the Western hegemon. The answer is obvious. My friend, there are not so many people interested in dicussing principles and what is just or not. Most seem to be happy insulting some OP,some political leader, or just in desperate need for some form of human tragedy to be reported or discussed. Most of them have never seen the real image of one person beeing shot with a military weapon,just in movies maybe... Any person that has been through such situations knows war is to avoided at any cost, there is always time for diplomacy. As someone said , it is better to spend 15 years in negociations then to have 15 minutes of full scale war. When guns are fired,you can't make right from wrong, you can't investigate anything, it goes on and one, until eventually people grow tired of war, or one of the parties is decimated enough to give up. Now, when we talk nuclear war, all you need from the loosing side is one last sub alive, or one last nuclear silo commander, and the story is over for all humanity. I think instead of reading about the war our leaders both Russian and Nato/US are prepping for us,m we better try to find some way of actually stopping this madshow before is too late. What you guys think?... |
Be aware (OP) User ID: 53277355 North Macedonia 03/13/2014 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am hoping this thread will come alive soon, because I'm curious to learn the justification for supporting the anti-White, anti-Christian, anti-family, etc., cultural-Marxist West against the traditional values of Putin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52702101 Thanks, great thread. 5* When you defend a multi-religious, secular and moderate society, all ideals of the West by the way, but you take position against the Western interest like the Syrian government, you are the enemy. Nobody is interested in what you believe in, it is only about the geopolitical side you chose if you are right or wrong in the eyes of the Western hegemon. The answer is obvious. My friend, there are not so many people interested in dicussing principles and what is just or not. Most seem to be happy insulting some OP,some political leader, or just in desperate need for some form of human tragedy to be reported or discussed. Most of them have never seen the real image of one person beeing shot with a military weapon,just in movies maybe... Any person that has been through such situations knows war is to avoided at any cost, there is always time for diplomacy. As someone said , it is better to spend 15 years in negociations then to have 15 minutes of full scale war. When guns are fired,you can't make right from wrong, you can't investigate anything, it goes on and one, until eventually people grow tired of war, or one of the parties is decimated enough to give up. Now, when we talk nuclear war, all you need from the loosing side is one last sub alive, or one last nuclear silo commander, and the story is over for all humanity. I think instead of reading about the war our leaders both Russian and Nato/US are prepping for us,m we better try to find some way of actually stopping this madshow before is too late. What you guys think?... Yeah, the war is pure madness. But when there are forces in this world who are pushing nuclear super power to the wall you can not but ask yourself, why? For what purpose? Only reasonable conclusion is that they are so vastly detached from the humanity and what being human means. How do you stop someone like that? Spread the info! Here it is only to show the Russian side, not to try to defend them but to try to bring close their voice trough the mad machine propaganda rumble. Sadly, those who can change the world for the better are mad inhuman power driven lunatics! We brought them to that position! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55511487 Croatia 03/13/2014 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dugin: What would happen if a neo-Nazi organization supported Putin in Russia or Yanukovych in Ukraine? Quoting: Be aware 53277355 The EU would start a political campaign; all huge western mainstream media would cover this and scandalize that. Dugin: Exactly that´s the case. So it is only about on which side such a group stands. If the group is against Putin, against Yanukovych, against Russia, the ideology of that group is not a problem. If that group supports Putin, Russia or Yanukovych, the ideology immediately becomes a huge problem. It is all about the geopolitical side the group takes. It is nothing but geopolitics. It is a very good lesson what is going on in Ukraine. The lesson tells us: Geopolitics is dominating those conflicts and nothing else. We witness this also with other conflicts for example in Syria, Libya, Egypt, in Caucasian region, Iraq, Iran . . . Any group taking side in favor of the West is a “good” group with no respect if it is extremist? Dugin: Yes and any group taking side against the West – even if this group is secular and moderate – will be called “extremist” by the Western propaganda. This approach exactly dominates the geopolitical battlefields today. You can be the most radical and brutal Salafi fighter, you can hate Jews and eat human organs in front of a camera, as long as you fight for the Western interest against the Syrian government you are a respected and supported ally of the West. When you defend a multi-religious, secular and moderate society, all ideals of the West by the way, but you take position against the Western interest like the Syrian government, you are the enemy. Nobody is interested in what you believe in, it is only about the geopolitical side you chose if you are right or wrong in the eyes of the Western hegemon. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 53277355 North Macedonia 03/13/2014 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dugin: What would happen if a neo-Nazi organization supported Putin in Russia or Yanukovych in Ukraine? Quoting: Be aware 53277355 The EU would start a political campaign; all huge western mainstream media would cover this and scandalize that. Dugin: Exactly that´s the case. So it is only about on which side such a group stands. If the group is against Putin, against Yanukovych, against Russia, the ideology of that group is not a problem. If that group supports Putin, Russia or Yanukovych, the ideology immediately becomes a huge problem. It is all about the geopolitical side the group takes. It is nothing but geopolitics. It is a very good lesson what is going on in Ukraine. The lesson tells us: Geopolitics is dominating those conflicts and nothing else. We witness this also with other conflicts for example in Syria, Libya, Egypt, in Caucasian region, Iraq, Iran . . . Any group taking side in favor of the West is a “good” group with no respect if it is extremist? Dugin: Yes and any group taking side against the West – even if this group is secular and moderate – will be called “extremist” by the Western propaganda. This approach exactly dominates the geopolitical battlefields today. You can be the most radical and brutal Salafi fighter, you can hate Jews and eat human organs in front of a camera, as long as you fight for the Western interest against the Syrian government you are a respected and supported ally of the West. When you defend a multi-religious, secular and moderate society, all ideals of the West by the way, but you take position against the Western interest like the Syrian government, you are the enemy. Nobody is interested in what you believe in, it is only about the geopolitical side you chose if you are right or wrong in the eyes of the Western hegemon. |
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Be aware (OP) User ID: 53277355 North Macedonia 03/13/2014 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the scariest part: In this war, Russia will set an example as the defender of Tradition, conservative organic values, and will represent real liberation from the open society and its beneficiaries – the global financial oligarchy. This war is not against Ukrainians or even against part of the Ukrainian populace. Nor is it against Europe. It is against the liberal world (dis)order. We are not going to save liberalism, per their designs. We are going to kill it once and for all. Modernity was always essentially wrong, and we are now at the terminal point of modernity. For those who rendered modernity and their own destiny synonymous, or who let that occur unconsciously, this will mean the end. But for those who are on the side of eternal truth and of Tradition, of faith, and of the spiritual and immortal human essence, it will be a new beginning, Absolute Beginning. Russia's leadership is ideologically prepared for battle! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48164635 United States 03/13/2014 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well said OP. The mob is constantly searching for the next victim to temporarily satisfy their insatiable greed. 'Fame up your neighbor', as Gresh told Igor in the intimate conversation between the mob boss and their puppet. Just like those knock out games, hopefully this time they picked the wrong victim |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55546718 Italy 03/13/2014 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP are you actually from Macedonia? I've a mind map of the countries of the balkans and who control who...there is only two holes at the moment Macedonia and Montenegro I know Germany has many interst in Macedonia but would Mecedonia side with NATO or Russia? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33798415 United States 03/13/2014 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the scariest part: In this war, Russia will set an example as the defender of Tradition, conservative organic values, and will represent real liberation from the open society and its beneficiaries – the global financial oligarchy. This war is not against Ukrainians or even against part of the Ukrainian populace. Nor is it against Europe. It is against the liberal world (dis)order. We are not going to save liberalism, per their designs. We are going to kill it once and for all. Modernity was always essentially wrong, and we are now at the terminal point of modernity. For those who rendered modernity and their own destiny synonymous, or who let that occur unconsciously, this will mean the end. But for those who are on the side of eternal truth and of Tradition, of faith, and of the spiritual and immortal human essence, it will be a new beginning, Absolute Beginning. Russia's leadership is ideologically prepared for battle! They Know the real battle is with the Illuminati and the Power elite.... To bad millions of us innocents will die for fucking mad men who worship satan and own all the banks... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33798415 United States 03/13/2014 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the scariest part: In this war, Russia will set an example as the defender of Tradition, conservative organic values, and will represent real liberation from the open society and its beneficiaries – the global financial oligarchy. This war is not against Ukrainians or even against part of the Ukrainian populace. Nor is it against Europe. It is against the liberal world (dis)order. We are not going to save liberalism, per their designs. We are going to kill it once and for all. Modernity was always essentially wrong, and we are now at the terminal point of modernity. For those who rendered modernity and their own destiny synonymous, or who let that occur unconsciously, this will mean the end. But for those who are on the side of eternal truth and of Tradition, of faith, and of the spiritual and immortal human essence, it will be a new beginning, Absolute Beginning. Russia's leadership is ideologically prepared for battle! They Know the real battle is with the Illuminati and the Power elite.... To bad millions of us innocents will die for fucking mad men who worship satan and own all the banks... I'm so glad they used the term liberalism it is a term that interchanges with terrorist... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40411749 Norway 03/13/2014 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a fight between nations. Its an internal powerstruggle before it all comes crashing down. Who will be there to pick up the pieces? I have never had any problems with Russians. They make awesome psytrance :P |
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