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Malaysia 777 Flight 370 was hijacked. DEBUNK THIS

 
Anonymous Coward
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What about the engine data? Is it possible for hijackers to switch that off too?

Malaysian plane sent out engine data before vanishing
[link to www.newscientist.com]
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No. The crew has no access to the telemetry device from inside the plane, and they cannot cycle it or turn it off.
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That's what I thought so how are Rolls Royce and Boeing saying that their was no more data just minutes before the plane disappeared if it was hijacked, the hijackers would have to be pretty sophisticated.

Malaysian official denies report missing Flight MH370 flew 4 hours after losing contact

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You may be confusing transponders with emergency transmitters. As far as I know the aircraft has 2 transponders which can be disabled form the cockpit.

As far as ELT (emergency location transmitters), if there was no crash, no reason to expect them to be activated.
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Wrong. The "black box" (which isn't really black) and the telemetry box that Boeing uses are always on. Even when the engines are turned off.
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ELT and black box are 2 different things. Nobody said the black boxes were disabled. And for your information these are internal systems (Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder) that do not transmit a signal. If so why would they search for them in every crash? Think about it.

The engine data was apparently received for an additional 4 hours, that is what is breaking today and gives more creedence to a hijacking.
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It is my understanding that on newer aircraft the locator beacon is always on. Can anyone confirm this?
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My friend who works at the airport told me that 2 are always on and can not be switched off or tampered with. Maybe someone can verify this. I can only repeat what I was told.
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You may be confusing transponders with emergency transmitters. As far as I know the aircraft has 2 transponders which can be disabled form the cockpit.

As far as ELT (emergency location transmitters), if there was no crash, no reason to expect them to be activated.
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Wrong. The "black box" (which isn't really black) and the telemetry box that Boeing uses are always on. Even when the engines are turned off.
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ELT and black box are 2 different things. Nobody said the black boxes were disabled. And for your information these are internal systems (Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder) that do not transmit a signal. If so why would they search for them in every crash? Think about it.

The engine data was apparently received for an additional 4 hours, that is what is breaking today and gives more creedence to a hijacking.
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It is my understanding that on newer aircraft the locator beacon is always on. Can anyone confirm this?
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No. It broadcasts on a specific emergency frequency and only when activated. Otherwise, you'd have thousands of aircraft broadcasting an emergency signal all over the world during normal flight - both unnecessary and it would impede real search and rescue operations.
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Tanaath of the Silver Legion ( [link to www.silverlegion.org] had this to say about the plane disappearance:
"...Nor do you need me to tell you that the mysterious vanishing plane is not exactly a run-of-the-mill aviation incident. The only thing I can release about that situation at this time is that there was ET action involved and that it was by positives, and no one was killed. That's what I've been told by Admiral Mander. I can't verify this in the real world for kind of obvious reasons. I don't have any other details, such as which specific group was involved, how it was done, why it was done, or why they could do that yet we're still getting bombarded by chemtrails. If dawn comes tomorrow with news stories of wreckage found, I've either been told wrong/heard wrong/am crazy or that stuff was planted to assist the downed-plane narrative to prevent this from becoming a form of soft disclosure."
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03/13/2014 11:06 AM
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What about the engine data? Is it possible for hijackers to switch that off too?

Malaysian plane sent out engine data before vanishing
[link to www.newscientist.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55257578


No. The crew has no access to the telemetry device from inside the plane, and they cannot cycle it or turn it off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12863960


where in the fuck did u get your training

first off all electrical breakers are in the cockpit

the engine telemetry is being disputed we'll see but 4 hrs flight time would put them on the southern coast of iran

ELT are activated like op said with 1 exception
You can arm the manual also
as far as transponders this has a knob control off stby and active
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03/13/2014 11:08 AM
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Tanaath of the Silver Legion ( [link to www.silverlegion.org] had this to say about the plane disappearance:
"...Nor do you need me to tell you that the mysterious vanishing plane is not exactly a run-of-the-mill aviation incident. The only thing I can release about that situation at this time is that there was ET action involved and that it was by positives, and no one was killed. That's what I've been told by Admiral Mander. I can't verify this in the real world for kind of obvious reasons. I don't have any other details, such as which specific group was involved, how it was done, why it was done, or why they could do that yet we're still getting bombarded by chemtrails. If dawn comes tomorrow with news stories of wreckage found, I've either been told wrong/heard wrong/am crazy or that stuff was planted to assist the downed-plane narrative to prevent this from becoming a form of soft disclosure."
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I can't believe that you are so bored that you took the time to write all this crap!
Anonymous Coward
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03/13/2014 11:11 AM
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Im leaning towards wanting some of the passengers. One question though. If it was a hijack to use for a future operation how easy would it be to obtain fuel without throwing a red flag?
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03/13/2014 11:12 AM
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Any type of jet impact would be seen as smoke or debris. Therefor, since there is NO sign whatsoever impact, means the plan has landed safely.
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03/13/2014 11:13 AM
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Why is it even a option to turn off transponders in flight? Why would that option even be available?
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03/13/2014 11:21 AM
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there are a bunch of reasons
when the plane is on the ground to prevent false returns
stand by for take off
the tower instructs on your individual code right before takeoff
There is also a hijack code
and a radio out code
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03/13/2014 11:22 AM
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there is also CB in the cockpit for them
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03/13/2014 11:22 AM
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there are a bunch of reasons
when the plane is on the ground to prevent false returns
stand by for take off
the tower instructs on your individual code right before takeoff
There is also a hijack code
and a radio out code
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All correct.
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03/13/2014 11:36 AM
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Report: USS Kidd being moved to Indian Ocean after 'indication' MH370 may have gone down there, senior Pentagon official says - @ABC
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03/13/2014 11:47 AM
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To OP,
Does the ELT use g-force or water to activate? What are the odds that a crash happens and it does not activate?
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03/13/2014 11:49 AM
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To OP,
Does the ELT use g-force or water to activate? What are the odds that a crash happens and it does not activate?
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No link but i heard someone say impact and salt water activate it.
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To OP,
Does the ELT use g-force or water to activate? What are the odds that a crash happens and it does not activate?
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No link but i heard someone say impact and salt water activate it.
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Impact, manual activation, and salt water activation.
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But it sounds like one hell of an amazing pilot to have flown all the way to Iran or wherever, off radar and all..... seems unlikely to me.
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03/13/2014 11:57 AM
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Can anyone explain why it is even possible for the transponders to be shut off during flight. Or even the fact that pilots have the ability to do so. What purpose does this serve?
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03/13/2014 11:59 AM
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Can anyone explain why it is even possible for the transponders to be shut off during flight. Or even the fact that pilots have the ability to do so. What purpose does this serve?
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Your question was answered several posts ago, look up for Captain America.
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03/13/2014 12:00 PM
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With all the technology available today it's next to impossible for a plane to simply disappear.

Whatever happened, this plane landed somewhere and for reasons we will probably never know.
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03/13/2014 12:01 PM
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Can anyone explain why it is even possible for the transponders to be shut off during flight. Or even the fact that pilots have the ability to do so. What purpose does this serve?
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Your question was answered several posts ago, look up for Captain America.
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03/13/2014 12:02 PM
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1. Aircrew was involved.

2. 40 minutes into the flight, the aircraft was handed off from Kuala Lumpur Control center to Ho Chi Minh control, never made contact with Ho Chi Minh.

3. At that same time, the transponders and all signals from the aircraft that could be disabled were turned off and the aircraft vanished. Theory is that it descended to avoid radar coverage and turned West.

4. Had at least 7 hours of fuel remaining at that point.

5. 1 hour later there was likely primary radar contact WEST of Malaysia over the Malacca straits. This was likely due to the aircraft climbing back up to cruise altitude, thinking it was out of radar contact area.

6. NO debris has been found after 6 days and wide area search.

7. It's gone folks - my bet is on Iran Konarak airfield, 2 miles long and first Iranian airstrip on the coast, if indeed it had enough fuel to get there.
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I said this on the 1st day, but without knowing all these details. Just a gut feeling. Good work tho op.
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03/13/2014 12:06 PM
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But it sounds like one hell of an amazing pilot to have flown all the way to Iran or wherever, off radar and all..... seems unlikely to me.
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It may have been picked up by radar, but doesn't military and law enforcement sometimes fly around stealthy? Maybe OP can help. Otherwise, how much shit do radar techs how to put up with?
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They are worth 250 million dollars.
Anything is possible.
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If the plane was hijacked, the next question should be: what will this behemoth plane be used for? damned
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False Flag operation to be blamed on Iran. So blatant.
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03/13/2014 12:13 PM
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I too believe it was hijacked. If it was able to just disappear just think what may be on it wherever it re-appears in a couple of years.
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03/13/2014 12:23 PM
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I too believe it was hijacked. If it was able to just disappear just think what may be on it wherever it re-appears in a couple of years.
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If that did happen and it is to be used in a future operation I highly doubt the US would be a target. Would be almost impossible to pull off. Unless NORAD had the most epic failure in communication ever. Oh wait...
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I too believe it was hijacked. If it was able to just disappear just think what may be on it wherever it re-appears in a couple of years.
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If that did happen and it is to be used in a future operation I highly doubt the US would be a target. Would be almost impossible to pull off. Unless NORAD had the most epic failure in communication ever. Oh wait...
dick
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Or an exercise...
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03/13/2014 12:43 PM
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Israel target
They have told the world this so many time ya cant count them all
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03/13/2014 01:28 PM
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For what ever reason I cant post the link. Guess not allowed on this site but one site has a theory that the plane was going to the Coco Island to a secret Chinese Military base.

Its just a theory but a interesting theory.

Internet search "Malaysian Airline Coco Island" You will see the sight im talking about.

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