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Remember the Uighurs that were picked up in Afghanistan and sent to Gitmo?
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Oh those were native Afghani Uyghurs. Don't you get it, wherever a muslim lives, he's a native. All the real natives, they just rewrote history to make the poor muslims look bad.
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Fortunately, by the time we were done abusing those guys, even our own government realized they shouldn't be sent back to China, where they'd be disappeared practically before touching down. We actually did the right thing this time and did not repatriate them. I'm not sure how they're faring in Tongo, though--talk about culture clash. So sad. Guantanamo is an atrocity.
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Why would Uyghurs travel to Afghanistan for Jihad if their cause wasn't based on religion??
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Dude, even California skateboarders can end up jihadists. That doesn't have anything to do with whether most violence in, say, San Franciso, is a "violent Muslim" issue. I'm sure some Uyghur boys have gotten caught up in the jihad idea, and I'm also pretty sure there are more white Americans, Australians, British, and Canadian jihadis overall than Uyghur.

The point is that the conflicts in Urumchi are not and never have been religious, but rather economical and political. Of course the military suppression of religion (and more accurately, culture) doesn't help, and of course Uyghurs are mad when soldiers come up and rip off women's head scarves in the middle of the street, as they have been doing (you can find home videos of Chinese soldiers boasting about this) since occupation. So of course religion and culture are not complete non-issues, but they're not THE issues. The main issue is plain old human friction which results naturally when you invade a neighboring country and try to force them to be "Chinese," and then take all their stuff and relabel them a "Chinese minority."
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Is it possible that the plane was hijacked by a group of wannabe time travelers? Is it possible that these people are now hard at work on some project in the past designed to change the future of humanity? If so, we are about to see some ripples on the pond.
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perhaps those 20 or so guys from the tech company had finally developed the technology for the flux capacitor! hf
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Uyghurs live in one of the regions of the world invaded by the Chinese Communists in the 1950s. They are not Chinese, and never have been. They speak a Turkic language and are moderate Muslims. They have never had a history of suicide bombings or extremism, though at this point they could hardly be blamed for considering a change of tack. As with Tibetans, Uyghur women have been forcibly sterilized by Chinese government forces for over six decades. China will do anything to villify these occupied people to try and justify it's cultural genocide.

Sadly, this isn't hyperbole.
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You are the biggest lying shithead in your whole damn paradigm. The minorities in China all have the greatest privilege the Han Chinese are currently denied; the minorities like the Uighyurs, Tibetans , Mongolians ,etc are exempted from the one child policy.

The CIA , Mossad and MI6 have been working over time to foment unrest and mischief in western and south western China to undermine China. Underneath the Tien Shan, Kunlun, Karakoram and Chang Tang Mountainsare hidden ancient defence systems the West want to get their hands on. The forays into Afghanistan and Iraq were for the same reasons.

The powers that be have roped in the illuminati wonder guys in Hollywood to help the Tibetans demonise China; they have also nurtured miscreants like Rebya Kadeer of the Uighyurs to stir the pot.

Time the world understand the truly nefarious schemes of TPTB that uses every trick in the book to keep the world disinformed and misinformed, with the " shilling and trolling " over the alternative media.yodayodayoda
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No problem, man. Simply hold a vote.

Then we can all know once and for all whether Tibetans and Uyghurs want to remain "priviliged" in China, or have Chinese soldiers go home.
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Uyghurs live in one of the regions of the world invaded by the Chinese Communists in the 1950s. They are not Chinese, and never have been. They speak a Turkic language and are moderate Muslims. They have never had a history of suicide bombings or extremism, though at this point they could hardly be blamed for considering a change of tack. As with Tibetans, Uyghur women have been forcibly sterilized by Chinese government forces for over six decades. China will do anything to villify these occupied people to try and justify it's cultural genocide.

Sadly, this isn't hyperbole.
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You are the biggest lying shithead in your whole damn paradigm. The minorities in China all have the greatest privilege the Han Chinese are currently denied; the minorities like the Uighyurs, Tibetans , Mongolians ,etc are exempted from the one child policy.

The CIA , Mossad and MI6 have been working over time to foment unrest and mischief in western and south western China to undermine China. Underneath the Tien Shan, Kunlun, Karakoram and Chang Tang Mountainsare hidden ancient defence systems the West want to get their hands on. The forays into Afghanistan and Iraq were for the same reasons.

The powers that be have roped in the illuminati wonder guys in Hollywood to help the Tibetans demonise China; they have also nurtured miscreants like Rebya Kadeer of the Uighyurs to stir the pot.

Time the world understand the truly nefarious schemes of TPTB that uses every trick in the book to keep the world disinformed and misinformed, with the " shilling and trolling " over the alternative media.yodayodayoda
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No problem, man. Simply hold a vote.

Then we can all know once and for all whether Tibetans and Uyghurs want to remain "priviliged" in China, or have Chinese soldiers go home.
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Btw, next time your colleague has the bright idea to earn 50 cents with a thread title, tell him to stop being so greedy, lol. Backfire city.
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And you know damn well anyone related to the old guard or who has a decent checking account can bribe officials to have more than one child. Hell there are countless rich women in Beijing with four children.
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The good news is that with social media and internet access (well, except for when it's periodically turned off), Chinese citizens themselves are helping to expose corruption and prejudice. Not all Chinese citizens hate Uyghurs or blame them unfairly, and there is a growing number of young social activists who are helping to expose the truth and make a better China.
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Uighur?
Where is he from?
I don't get it, that's a country?
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The Uyghur people are an ethnic minority from Western China. They are a caucasian/mongolian mix and probably have Tocharian ancestry. Some of them have blonde or red hair. They have a large Muslim population.
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A fairly useful metaphor for the issue is Northern Ireland. A powerful foreign invader bit off six counties of Ireland and labeled it "Britain," called the people "British," and started importing Protestant English and Scottish settlers to supplant the local Irish.

Now Irish are a minority in many areas of "Northern" Ireland.

Though often referred to as a religious conflict, the Irish Troubles weren't really religious at their root, but cultural and economic. And of course people just being plain pissed off at having been invaded.
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Uighur?
Where is he from?
I don't get it, that's a country?
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Chinese muslims
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You'll note the presence, by the way, of several of the "50 Cent Gang" here on this thread. These are Chinese mainland citizens who are paid to post pro-Beijing statements on topics considered sensitive by the government. They keep a strikingly low profile on GLP in general, which I think is a testament to GLP and its citizens--BS is not well-tolerated ;)

But with the Uyghur issue at an all-time high, they will surface on this thread (and already have).

"50 Cent Gang" is a name made up by Chinese netizens (internet users), and is based on the rumor that in the early days these paid internet commentators earned roughly 50 cents per post.

However, there are much higher-level positions for people with good English and skill at "guiding public opinion." Their task is to convince you of the Chinese government's official position, to the exclusion of all other perspective.
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Uighur?
Where is he from?
I don't get it, that's a country?
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It's just a fancy way of spelling wigger.
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I think they probably did not mean to make this thread quite so active, lol; just wanted to lay in a quick "Uighurs did it" and then quietly retreat.

Unfortunately for someone's 50 cents, we managed to get into some of the actual history now of what has gone on since the Communist invasion of 1949-1950.

My own grandparents fled Lanzhou when Mao's jerks came swarming in. Bright, promising young nursing students were shot dead in the street by his thugs for absolutely no reason. War is hell, and Mao Zedong--though this is never acknowledged--remains the worst mass murderer in the history of the human race.
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Uighur?
Where is he from?
I don't get it, that's a country?
 Quoting: Just Some Guy


There are two groups of Muslims in China: Hui Muslims and Uighur Muslims.

While Hui Muslims enjoy freedom to practice their religion, Muslim Uighurs face strict government repression in far-western Xinjiang province. Bao says while the Hui have happily assimilated with the majority Han, the Uighurs have not.

Part of the problem is language differences. While the Hui and Han both speak Mandarin, the Uighurs speak their own Turkic dialect and write in Arabic script.

Others say the Uighurs strong desire for autonomy explains the difference in treatment.

“Some Uighurs in Xinjiang are extremists and they want to separate from China,” says Bao. “In the case of Ningxia's Hui people, they do not have conflicts with other groups, and they live in harmony with Han and other Chinese people.”

[link to www.aljazeera.com]
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Uighur?
Where is he from?
I don't get it, that's a country?
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There are two groups of Muslims in China: Hui Muslims and Uighur Muslims.

While Hui Muslims enjoy freedom to practice their religion, Muslim Uighurs face strict government repression in far-western Xinjiang province. Bao says while the Hui have happily assimilated with the majority Han, the Uighurs have not.

Part of the problem is language differences. While the Hui and Han both speak Mandarin, the Uighurs speak their own Turkic dialect and write in Arabic script.

Others say the Uighurs strong desire for autonomy explains the difference in treatment.

“Some Uighurs in Xinjiang are extremists and they want to separate from China,” says Bao. “In the case of Ningxia's Hui people, they do not have conflicts with other groups, and they live in harmony with Han and other Chinese people.”

[link to www.aljazeera.com]
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Yes--Beijing has to be very careful that the anti-Muslim sentiment it is whipping up doesn't spill over onto Hui.

Because the Hui might actually choose the Uyghur brothers over the Han brothers, in the end.

It's not true that Uyghurs have been trying to separate. They're hurting like anyone else under foreign occupation, but have taken it gracefully and of course the reality is that, just as in Tibet, there's little option. Neither Tibetans nor Uyghurs are predisposed to violent resistance, as six decades of occupation has clearly shown.

But after 9/11 and its attendant world mobilization against Muslims, China saw a golden opportunity to snatch more land and resources from Uyghur areas--and to be able to do so by simply inventing a "Uyghur terrorist problem."

Note how there were magically no Uyghur terrorists in Urumchi before 9/11. Very convenient new problem. Now Kashgar town is being ethnically cleansed, daily, of the people who actually own the shops; their land and buildings are turned over to investors from China's wealthy east coast.
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[Comrade Xi, I'm very sorry; it seems the Uighur thread has gone in the wrong direction. Some liberal do-gooder is bringing up 2009. What? No, no...I said I'm sorry...[PIFFFFF]. SHIT!! How'd I get on flight MH370??? Where am I going and what the hell am I doing in this handbasket??]
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Uighur?
Where is he from?
I don't get it, that's a country?
 Quoting: Just Some Guy


There are two groups of Muslims in China: Hui Muslims and Uighur Muslims.

While Hui Muslims enjoy freedom to practice their religion, Muslim Uighurs face strict government repression in far-western Xinjiang province. Bao says while the Hui have happily assimilated with the majority Han, the Uighurs have not.

Part of the problem is language differences. While the Hui and Han both speak Mandarin, the Uighurs speak their own Turkic dialect and write in Arabic script.

Others say the Uighurs strong desire for autonomy explains the difference in treatment.

“Some Uighurs in Xinjiang are extremists and they want to separate from China,” says Bao. “In the case of Ningxia's Hui people, they do not have conflicts with other groups, and they live in harmony with Han and other Chinese people.”

[link to www.aljazeera.com]
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Yes--Beijing has to be very careful that the anti-Muslim sentiment it is whipping up doesn't spill over onto Hui.

Because the Hui might actually choose the Uyghur brothers over the Han brothers, in the end.

It's not true that Uyghurs have been trying to separate. They're hurting like anyone else under foreign occupation, but have taken it gracefully and of course the reality is that, just as in Tibet, there's little option. Neither Tibetans nor Uyghurs are predisposed to violent resistance, as six decades of occupation has clearly shown.

But after 9/11 and its attendant world mobilization against Muslims, China saw a golden opportunity to snatch more land and resources from Uyghur areas--and to be able to do so by simply inventing a "Uyghur terrorist problem."

Note how there were magically no Uyghur terrorists in Urumchi before 9/11. Very convenient new problem. Now Kashgar town is being ethnically cleansed, daily, of the people who actually own the shops; their land and buildings are turned over to investors from China's wealthy east coast.
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hesright
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You know what is the most weird thing about this flight?
There were no ordinary normal everyday people on this flight.
Every single one of them has a strange past and a suspect.
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Normally there are a few nuns and a harmless penguin thrown in, just to balance things out. This was more like Voyage of the Damned.
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"With trust running low, the state broadcaster CCTV reported on Twitter that families had asked the Malaysian envoy whether the air force had shot down the plane – a suggestion Malaysia denied."

[link to www.theguardian.com]

If it *was* shot down, who really shot it down?
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The China owes Korea apology for crash!
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Interesting:

@conserva8 If it’s a hijacking not a crash,start w/ a list of abandoned WWII runways on islands within 4 hrs flight time—scores were built.
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A cell tower in Kota Bharu could be the missing puzzle piece in the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 last weekend.

There's a theory ... the aircraft doubled back over Malaysia after it began to cross the South China Sea, and crashed off the opposite coast instead ... somewhere in the Malacca Strait.

Malaysian officials have rejected the theory -- but if it's true (as some still believe) the plane would have passed over the city of Kota Bharu, which contains a powerful Celcom cellular phone tower....

We've reached out to Celcom about possible data transmitted to the Kota Bharu cell tower -- so far, no word back.

[link to www.tmz.com]
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They just found his passport! And it is in perfect condition!
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i just had a deja vu
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Interesting:

@conserva8 If it’s a hijacking not a crash,start w/ a list of abandoned WWII runways on islands within 4 hrs flight time—scores were built.
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Coco Island

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China supposedly established a SIGINT intelligence gathering station on Great Coco Island in 1992 to monitor Indian naval activity in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.[3] The station is also said to allow China to monitor the movement of other navies and ships throughout the eastern Indian Ocean, especially in the crucial point in shipping routes between the Bay of Bengal and the Strait of Malacca.[3] It may also be used to monitor activities at the launch site of the Indian Space Research Organization at Sriharikota and the Defence Research and Development Organization at Chandipur-on-sea. The Chinese Army is also building a maritime base on Little Coco Island.[5]
Existence of the Chinese base has been questioned.[4] In 1998, the U.S. stated that it had not detected any significant Chinese activity in Burma.[6] India’s Chief of Naval Staff is quoted as saying in October 2005 that India had “firm information that there is no listening post, radar or surveillance station belonging to the Chinese on Coco Islands.”[4][7] In 2014, Air Marshal P.K. Roy, Commander-in-Chief of India's Andaman and Nicobar Command stated that "China has been developing a runway for civilian purposes. There are no reports of presence of Chinese per se. The situation is not alarming." He added that there was only some civilian infrastructural developments which was not a threat to India.[8]

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I'm hoping that the Malaysian Government will subscribe to GLP - if they can afford the $10/monthly fee - and keep us all entertained.
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Interesting:

@conserva8 If it’s a hijacking not a crash,start w/ a list of abandoned WWII runways on islands within 4 hrs flight time—scores were built.
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Coco Island

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

China supposedly established a SIGINT intelligence gathering station on Great Coco Island in 1992 to monitor Indian naval activity in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.[3] The station is also said to allow China to monitor the movement of other navies and ships throughout the eastern Indian Ocean, especially in the crucial point in shipping routes between the Bay of Bengal and the Strait of Malacca.[3] It may also be used to monitor activities at the launch site of the Indian Space Research Organization at Sriharikota and the Defence Research and Development Organization at Chandipur-on-sea. The Chinese Army is also building a maritime base on Little Coco Island.[5]
Existence of the Chinese base has been questioned.[4] In 1998, the U.S. stated that it had not detected any significant Chinese activity in Burma.[6] India’s Chief of Naval Staff is quoted as saying in October 2005 that India had “firm information that there is no listening post, radar or surveillance station belonging to the Chinese on Coco Islands.”[4][7] In 2014, Air Marshal P.K. Roy, Commander-in-Chief of India's Andaman and Nicobar Command stated that "China has been developing a runway for civilian purposes. There are no reports of presence of Chinese per se. The situation is not alarming." He added that there was only some civilian infrastructural developments which was not a threat to India.[8]
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Excellent choice!

Now--who was really on that plane?
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"According to a senior Malaysian Air Force official, radar tracking shows MH370's last known location was over the very small island of Pulau Perak in the Strait of Malacca."

Don't know if we can take that at face value, but...

[link to edition.cnn.com]
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Btw if last known position was over Pulau Perak, how do we know it didn't land there afterward?
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"MH370: Did authorities visit crash site today (Tuesday)?

Ben Sandilands

There is compelling information that puts the crash site of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 as near Pulau Perak or Silver Island, the westernmost point of Malaysia in the Straits of Malacca.

It is possible that the crash site was visited by Malaysia government officials earlier today Tuesday, including the defence minister Hishammuddin Hussein...Earlier today the official narrative on the search for MH370 began to fall apart. As it did intelligence sources in Europe and the US were briefing their media that the loss of the flight did not look like the work of terrorists, although reporters were cautioned not to completely dismiss the possibility of evidence to the contrary emerging."

[link to blogs.crikey.com.au]
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Has Interpol starting investigating the 12 people on the plane who are know to have been trained aircrew? I still thing they made have had control of the plane.
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India joins search:

"NEW DELHI (AP) — India says its navy, air force and coast guard are now looking for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane as the search has expanded to cover an area stretching from the South China Sea to the Andaman Sea...India's statement says its air effort includes two C-130s, one Mi-17 V5 helicopter of the air force and Dornier and P8i maritime reconnaissance aircraft of the navy."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

Damn. Clash of Titans in the Indian Ocean.

Hope the plane is safe and sound on an island somewhere.





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