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The EXTRATERRESTRIALS in the BIBLE

 
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I'll give the OP credit for a very imaginative thread, but every statement made in the OP(s) begin with the supposition that the clouds were machines, and the angels were aliens.

If you begin at that point, naturally the rest will appear to support it.

Unfortunately for the OP, none of what was stated proves anything, with regard to the OP's assertions.

I'm not knocking your beliefs (that's what they are), you're entitled to them, but as many non believers in a supernatural God have said to those that do believe in one: your belief doesn't constitute proof.

Just as an example, if I were to post the exact same biblical quotes that the OP had, and began instead with the supposition that the clouds were an actuality levitating, glowing manhole covers, and the angels were Atlantean Pirates, would I not have the same credibility as that prescribed to the OP?

This isn't to knock the OP's beliefs, but to support my point. Many would say I sounded crazy, and there could be some that would agree with my suppositions as long as they did not lend to the idea of a supernatural God as traditionally thought.

For the above, you could replace the manhole covers and pirates with just about anything, as long as you began with the idea that whatever it was you chose to fill those gaps was something that you, personally, could accept.

----EDIT TO ADD---

The OP has stated that this thread, and the accompanying beliefs have more to do with his/her personal experience with Aliens.

The point I am making is that there are those that believe they've had similar physical experiences with Angels, and they haven't come out of it feeling that any of the above quoted scripture lends any credence to Angels being Aliens.

Likewise, someone else could claim to have had experiences with Atlantean Pirates, and would make the same connections with those scriptures as the OP did.

Just my two cents.

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Good try, but you forgot on little thing.

What the OP has stated, and he is right on this (and his real scientific new approach of the fractal time put some weight on that), is that the modern UFO and ET behaviors (according to HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS REPORTS) perfectly match the clouds and the Angels behaviors as described by the Bible.

SO, it's not a matter of beliefs, it's a matter of scientific data, including from scientific OFFICIAL institutions like the GEIPAN in France.

So your argument is far weaker than you believe.
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So, where is the proof that takes the OP's argument from the realm of simple belief to that of fact?
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And just to add

From personal experience

There are Angels that are not 'aliens'

and there are 'Aliens' that behave like 'angels' and appear and disappear to protect at precise moments of danger or for warning. This has been real in my life. Both kinds.
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OP and everybody who know of the existence of otherworldly beings should be aware that there are different kinds of beings outside of Earth, beyond Earth, not of Earth, whatever you want to call it.

Anunnaki sample type were physical beings from another world, but they were Not angels.

Inter-dimensional beings not of this world, not from a planet, but not from Earth, can be as Angels. Their ships do not look like what you think of a ship and THEY ARE IN THE CLOUDS. EVERY DAY all OVER the WORLD right at this minute.

They materialize into structure form within the cloud material, to the observer, to then again dissolve-diffuse in an instant.. if you are watching.

They form actual structures, with different shapes and widths within the structure. Points of light can even be seen within the structures. Their size can be beyond belief!

Call them celestials, call them angels, call them extraterrestrials - since they are extra- terra- not from terra - not from earth. Terra=Earth. Whatever you want to call them THEY EXIST AND THEY ARE HERE!

THEIR SHIPS EXIST AND THEY ARE HERE!

When I read the scriptures about clouds and angels. If I read something where it says an angel came out of somewhere - ship - cloud, whatever. I consider that an interdimensional in need of a transport, though interdimensional too. They can appear down here and look human and help and protect. They are our heavenly family.

Angels and ArchAngels from the Highest would not require a cloud nor a ship. They are the Powerful Messengers of God directly from the Highest. There are levels for everything. We are not alone. We have never been alone. We will never be alone.

Be at peace.
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Aliens are not angels. They're demonic inter dimensional beings that have always been here.
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Honestly, with the way people are getting offended by my pointing out the very obvious fact that the OP provided no proof of anything, I'd just like to say:

If you want to believe in aliens, and you don't want to believe in God, just come out and fucking say it. Stop beating around the bush, and acting affronted when someone simply disagrees with you.
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When u look above during the day. U see three things. Blue white yellow so I guess cloud is big part?
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Why is sky blue during day but black during the night?
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One thing about bible is that so far nothing has come true. All u can do is wait
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How is that possible to read such stupid statements to counter the OP's arguments!

The OP has written a book called The Science of Extraterrestrials which brilliantly shows that THERE IS NO ALIENS/ETS COMING TO EARTH WHO DON'T GO THROUGH MULTIDIMENSIONAL LAYERS OD THE SPACE-TIME.

The extraterrestrials CANNOT reach us from remote planets WITHOUT being 'interdimensional'.

THERE IS NO, I REPEAT, THERE IS NO SPACECRAFT ABLE TO REACH OTHER STARS WITHOUT BEING IN A FORM OF NON-MATERIAL TO TRAVEL.

Therefore, ALL the ETs are angels, and all the angels are ETs. Both can materialize and dematerialize.

The same way, theit crafts are able to dematerialize and materialize at will.

All of this is due to the universal laws of physics. One of them is the true nature of the time: the fractal time!

But I believe that most of the readers have not the IQ to comprehend it and will stay in the ignorance of the truth. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of IQ.
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Surely of you would want to read his book:

Thread: THE SCIENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS for free (English, French, Spanish, Chinese)
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Surely SOME of you would want to read his book:

Thread: THE SCIENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS for free (English, French, Spanish, Chinese)
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How is that possible to read such stupid statements to counter the OP's arguments!

The OP has written a book called The Science of Extraterrestrials which brilliantly shows that THERE IS NO ALIENS/ETS COMING TO EARTH WHO DON'T GO THROUGH MULTIDIMENSIONAL LAYERS OD THE SPACE-TIME.

The extraterrestrials CANNOT reach us from remote planets WITHOUT being 'interdimensional'.

THERE IS NO, I REPEAT, THERE IS NO SPACECRAFT ABLE TO REACH OTHER STARS WITHOUT BEING IN A FORM OF NON-MATERIAL TO TRAVEL.

Therefore, ALL the ETs are angels, and all the angels are ETs. Both can materialize and dematerialize.

The same way, theit crafts are able to dematerialize and materialize at will.

All of this is due to the universal laws of physics. One of them is the true nature of the time: the fractal time!

But I believe that most of the readers have not the IQ to comprehend it and will stay in the ignorance of the truth. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of IQ.
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The same post, but richer, without the typos mistakes:

How is that possible to read such stupid statements to counter the OP's arguments!

The OP has written a book called The Science of Extraterrestrials which brilliantly shows that THERE IS NO ALIENS/ETS COMING TO EARTH WHO DON'T GO THROUGH MULTIDIMENSIONAL LAYERS OF THE SPACE-TIME.

The extraterrestrials CANNOT reach us from remote planets WITHOUT being 'interdimensional'.

THERE IS NO, I REPEAT, THERE IS NO SPACECRAFT ABLE TO REACH OTHER STARS WITHOUT BEING IN A FORM OF NON-MATERIAL STATE TO TRAVEL.

Therefore, ALL the ETs are angels, and all the angels are ETs. Both can materialize and dematerialize.

The same way, their crafts are able to dematerialize and materialize at will. They are called 'clouds' in the Bible because this is the best way to name them WITHOUT scientific and technological knowledges (due to the state of art at this moment in time (the time of the OT and the NT)).

All of this is due to the universal laws of physics. One of them is the true nature of the time: the fractal time!

But I believe that most of the readers have not the IQ to comprehend it and will stay in the ignorance of the truth. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of IQ.

I should add that there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MODERN UFO/ET REPORTS MATCHING THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE 'CLOUDS' AND 'ANGELS' IN THE BIBLE. These reports are compiled by dozens of UFO associations in the world, and even by OFFICIAL scientific institutions dedicated to it. These reports are accessible on Internet.

So, be informed, not brainwashed.
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The same post, but richer, without the typos mistakes:

How is that possible to read such stupid statements to counter the OP's arguments!

The OP has written a book called The Science of Extraterrestrials which brilliantly shows that THERE IS NO ALIENS/ETS COMING TO EARTH WHO DON'T GO THROUGH MULTIDIMENSIONAL LAYERS OF THE SPACE-TIME.

The extraterrestrials CANNOT reach us from remote planets WITHOUT being 'interdimensional'.

THERE IS NO, I REPEAT, THERE IS NO SPACECRAFT ABLE TO REACH OTHER STARS WITHOUT BEING IN A FORM OF NON-MATERIAL STATE TO TRAVEL.

Therefore, ALL the ETs are angels, and all the angels are ETs. Both can materialize and dematerialize.

The same way, their crafts are able to dematerialize and materialize at will. They are called 'clouds' in the Bible because this is the best way to name them WITHOUT scientific and technological knowledges (due to the state of art at this moment in time (the time of the OT and the NT)).

All of this is due to the universal laws of physics. One of them is the true nature of the time: the fractal time!

But I believe that most of the readers have not the IQ to comprehend it and will stay in the ignorance of the truth. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of IQ.

I should add that there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MODERN UFO/ET REPORTS MATCHING THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE 'CLOUDS' AND 'ANGELS' IN THE BIBLE. These reports are compiled by dozens of UFO associations in the world, and even by OFFICIAL scientific institutions dedicated to it. These reports are accessible on Internet.

So, be informed, not brainwashed.
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Excellent!


hesright
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The same post, but richer, without the typos mistakes:

How is that possible to read such stupid statements to counter the OP's arguments!

The OP has written a book called The Science of Extraterrestrials which brilliantly shows that THERE IS NO ALIENS/ETS COMING TO EARTH WHO DON'T GO THROUGH MULTIDIMENSIONAL LAYERS OF THE SPACE-TIME.

The extraterrestrials CANNOT reach us from remote planets WITHOUT being 'interdimensional'.

THERE IS NO, I REPEAT, THERE IS NO SPACECRAFT ABLE TO REACH OTHER STARS WITHOUT BEING IN A FORM OF NON-MATERIAL STATE TO TRAVEL.

Therefore, ALL the ETs are angels, and all the angels are ETs. Both can materialize and dematerialize.

The same way, their crafts are able to dematerialize and materialize at will. They are called 'clouds' in the Bible because this is the best way to name them WITHOUT scientific and technological knowledges (due to the state of art at this moment in time (the time of the OT and the NT)).

All of this is due to the universal laws of physics. One of them is the true nature of the time: the fractal time!

But I believe that most of the readers have not the IQ to comprehend it and will stay in the ignorance of the truth. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of IQ.

I should add that there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MODERN UFO/ET REPORTS MATCHING THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE 'CLOUDS' AND 'ANGELS' IN THE BIBLE. These reports are compiled by dozens of UFO associations in the world, and even by OFFICIAL scientific institutions dedicated to it. These reports are accessible on Internet.

So, be informed, not brainwashed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59814148


Excellent!


hesright
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I concur.
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And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
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I wonder if some of the so-called christians have got some skills to read. The context of this sentence is this one in Acts 1:


6 Then they [the apostles] gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them.

11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.


Two important remarks:

1) when Jesus said to the apostles that 'It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority'...he is speaking to the apostles, AND NO ONE ELSE. They were 12. They were NOT the entire humanity. That's why he told them that it was NOT FOR THEM, AS JESUS CONTEMPORARY, TO KNOW THE TIMES OR DATES because these times and dates were TOO FAR IN THE FUTURE (2,000 years later). They did NOT NEED to know these times and dates for they wouldn't represent a thing for their present life. Jesus was talking for the present of his Ministry. He even specifically asked them to go to places (Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the Earth) to be his witnesses. He had to give them intels and missions they could understand and accomplish for the times they lived in when Jesus said all of that.


2) Jesus is taken up in a CLOUD, the same CLOUD with which he will come back (the same way). Of course, as we have already seen, THE CLOUDS ARE EXTRATERRESTRIAL SPACESHIPS! So, Jesus will come back the same way he left the Earth...with an ET multidimensional spacecraft. Of course, the two men dressed in white are extraterrestrials who just came with the CLOUD to take Jesus since they weren't present before, when Jesus was just talking to the apostles.



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Impressive demonstration. Thanks.
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If the current universe will eventually be called the new earth and mankind will be able to travel to the far ends and back many times as they will be immortal like the angels of the current heaven.
Today angels are not given in marriage but would that change when they are in their promised 'new heaven'? (in that their child could never fall into sin as they would be born perfect)

If 4 fallen angels manifest into 200M horsemen, could they have done that in the time before the flood but use it as a force to construct something, like 3 pyramids?
Jude is all about them and the 10,000 saints that Enoch mentions was a prophecy yet when Moses mentions the same thing it is a past event.

Jude:1:14:
And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these,
saying,
Behold,
the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
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If the current universe will eventually be called the new earth and mankind will be able to travel to the far ends and back many times as they will be immortal like the angels of the current heaven.
Today angels are not given in marriage but would that change when they are in their promised 'new heaven'? (in that their child could never fall into sin as they would be born perfect)

If 4 fallen angels manifest into 200M horsemen, could they have done that in the time before the flood but use it as a force to construct something, like 3 pyramids?
Jude is all about them and the 10,000 saints that Enoch mentions was a prophecy yet when Moses mentions the same thing it is a past event.

Jude:1:14:
And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these,
saying,
Behold,
the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Interesting thoughts.
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Not from earth=extra terrestrials. Which ones are the good guys? I think reading and praying will be keeping me busy for quite a while.
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Not from earth=extra terrestrials. Which ones are the good guys? I think reading and praying will be keeping me busy for quite a while.
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This is a very good question. I believe that the human-like ETs are the good ones, along with some others like the blue small beings, the Tall Whites, the insectoids, and many more.
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Not from earth=extra terrestrials. Which ones are the good guys? I think reading and praying will be keeping me busy for quite a while.
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They must be all good.

None have invaded and made us their meals.

"You shall KNOW them by their FRUITS."

Contrary to the psychopatic trash that rules us with their iron rods: now represented by the american military-industrial complex.

Some of them have eaten children's hearts alive. Some say in the past. Some say still in the present.

They say that it is for the "extra-terrestrial" gods.

But psychopaths have been known to lie a lot.

But A LOT!


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