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I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.

 
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I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
From the NYT;

The military took no immediate action on Saturday to investigate the unidentified blips, whose path appeared to take the aircraft near the heavily populated island of Penang, and only later realized the significance of the radar readings.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Any modern country would defend their airspace against intrusion. Yet they didn't investigate or alert authorities.

Picture this, the air defences in the country you live in does not respond to unidentified incursions even though they can see it on primary radar. Your country is therefore vulnerable to first strikes from your enemies.

Logic therefore implicates the Malaysian military.

What say you?

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03/15/2014 07:29 AM
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
The existence of the radar data suggests that the Malaysian authorities may have missed a chance to send military jets to intercept, identify and track the plane as it passed over the country. General Rodzali said interceptors were not scrambled because the unidentified plane appeared to be a civilian aircraft and was not seen as hostile.


wth kind of logic is that?!

there is an unidentified object flying across your country and you are unable to communicate with it, yet your GENERAL declares it's not hostile

you don't know whether it's hostile or not, you don't have enough info, so that's the time when you absolutely must scramble your jets to identify it and make sure it isn't trying any funny business!


Yet a general doesn't agree with me on this? Can someone point out if i've missed something here?... Can smell a Malaysian cover up..
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Whatever, this is the beginning of a terror attack, and not the end.
That plane has a final target.....
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

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03/15/2014 07:38 AM
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
I guess Malaysia has a crap military
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
I just want to know why Malaysia is hiding all of the info. Makes me wonder maybe if they are in on all of this disappearance???
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
I guess Malaysia has a crap military
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Malaysia is corrupt. They have a lot to do with this.
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
If we use this knowledge as a starting point, one can start to interpret what happened.

In order to guarantee a no response from the military, certain elements within the military must have been fore-warned about the plane's diversion.

Specially trained personnel familiar with Boeing 777 systems were onboard whether as crew or passengers in order to shut down electronics and communications.

So we now have people onboard that know what they're doing and people in the military looking the other way.

If the object of the mission was to crash the plane and kill everyone onboard, I'm sure the certain elements in the military could have arranged that along the original flight path.

Specialised people onboard points to deliberate diversion with the outcome being an intact landing.

Do the orchestrators of this event want a plane for some future false-flag event? NO! Anyone with enough power to arrange the above scenario could easily come by an aircraft without causing all this fuss.

Are the orchestrators of this event local to Malaysia? NO! Unless they are into self-harm, the damage to the country's airline and tourist industry will be extensive.

Where does that leave us? An external power is behind this and there are at least three possibilities;

1. A multi-country military build-up south of China.

2. Valuable passengers onboard prevented from reaching their final destination.

3. A smoke-screen or diversion from crucial events happening elsewhere in the world.
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03/15/2014 08:21 AM
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Yep and smokescreen surely it is. Ukraine has completely disappeared from our media.
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03/15/2014 08:22 AM
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
If they do know something they will fight tooth and nail to "save face".
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Yep and smokescreen surely it is. Ukraine has completely disappeared from our media.
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
I guess Malaysia has a crap military
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Malaysia is corrupt. They have a lot to do with this.
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C0rrupt, Lazy, Incompetent..
just hv a look at their PM. read abt his alleged scandals.
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03/15/2014 09:42 AM
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
From the NYT;

The military took no immediate action on Saturday to investigate the unidentified blips, whose path appeared to take the aircraft near the heavily populated island of Penang, and only later realized the significance of the radar readings.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Any modern country would defend their airspace against intrusion. Yet they didn't investigate or alert authorities.

Picture this, the air defences in the country you live in does not respond to unidentified incursions even though they can see it on primary radar. Your country is therefore vulnerable to first strikes from your enemies.

Logic therefore implicates the Malaysian military.

What say you?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55584097


9/11?
No one complained then. Why are you complaining now?
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Yep and smokescreen surely it is. Ukraine has completely disappeared from our media.
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No, why go through this hastle that only interests a few.
Kidnapping one of the kardashians would have had a much better results
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Thread: Missing Malaysian Airline is Conspiracy Wonderland With Pit Stops - Are You Alice? You're being taken for a Ride!
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
From the NYT;

The military took no immediate action on Saturday to investigate the unidentified blips, whose path appeared to take the aircraft near the heavily populated island of Penang, and only later realized the significance of the radar readings.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Any modern country would defend their airspace against intrusion. Yet they didn't investigate or alert authorities.

Picture this, the air defences in the country you live in does not respond to unidentified incursions even though they can see it on primary radar. Your country is therefore vulnerable to first strikes from your enemies.

Logic therefore implicates the Malaysian military.

What say you?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55584097


9/11?
No one complained then. Why are you complaining now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21333517


checkmate.
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03/15/2014 10:45 AM
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
I've run this by a Malaysian friend who said that the Malaysian military is very lazy.

Apparently during the war in Vietnam a plane from Vietnam flew over a Malaysian city for a few hours (possibly with refugees), the airport called the military who didn't even bother to check it out.
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
From the NYT;

The military took no immediate action on Saturday to investigate the unidentified blips, whose path appeared to take the aircraft near the heavily populated island of Penang, and only later realized the significance of the radar readings.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Any modern country would defend their airspace against intrusion. Yet they didn't investigate or alert authorities.

Picture this, the air defences in the country you live in does not respond to unidentified incursions even though they can see it on primary radar. Your country is therefore vulnerable to first strikes from your enemies.

Logic therefore implicates the Malaysian military.

What say you?

.
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I say you're an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not every country is as paranoid as you are!!!!!!!
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
From the NYT;

The military took no immediate action on Saturday to investigate the unidentified blips, whose path appeared to take the aircraft near the heavily populated island of Penang, and only later realized the significance of the radar readings.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Any modern country would defend their airspace against intrusion. Yet they didn't investigate or alert authorities.

Picture this, the air defences in the country you live in does not respond to unidentified incursions even though they can see it on primary radar. Your country is therefore vulnerable to first strikes from your enemies.

Logic therefore implicates the Malaysian military.

What say you?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55584097







I say you're an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not every country is as paranoid as you are!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48853668


I'm guessing if you were a radar operator and saw an unidentified aircraft on your screen, you would do nothing? I hope they don't have clowns like you defending the country.
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Folks. If you knew anything about air traffic, you wouldn't be saying this. When the transponder is turned off, all you have to search with is PRIMARY. When that is engaged, hell; a flock of birds will show up. Sea traffic will show up. Small planes, big planes, all look the same under PRIMARY.

If you were not tracking the aircraft with primary originally and then had to switch to it....trying to find that plane would be extremely difficult with someone with 30 years experience.

Although I don't think the Malaysian authorities have handled this very well, I wouldn't be blaming their military.
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Folks. If you knew anything about air traffic, you wouldn't be saying this. When the transponder is turned off, all you have to search with is PRIMARY. When that is engaged, hell; a flock of birds will show up. Sea traffic will show up. Small planes, big planes, all look the same under PRIMARY.

If you were not tracking the aircraft with primary originally and then had to switch to it....trying to find that plane would be extremely difficult with someone with 30 years experience.

Although I don't think the Malaysian authorities have handled this very well, I wouldn't be blaming their military.
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


NSA has backdoors into our computers. You think the government don't have more than one way of knowing absolutely everything about that is going on with computers, airplanes etc? You really think the technology they give us the sheeple masses is anything close to what they have and is possible? Heck, they can even track your cell phones when turned off. There is a reason you know of and several other we don't why batteries on iPhones can't be removed. So even when you switch it off, it could still be on in a way.

This plane isn't missing. They know where it is, that is, if there was ever any plane or incredulous story as they have sold to us in the first instance.
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Folks. If you knew anything about air traffic, you wouldn't be saying this. When the transponder is turned off, all you have to search with is PRIMARY. When that is engaged, hell; a flock of birds will show up. Sea traffic will show up. Small planes, big planes, all look the same under PRIMARY.

If you were not tracking the aircraft with primary originally and then had to switch to it....trying to find that plane would be extremely difficult with someone with 30 years experience.

Although I don't think the Malaysian authorities have handled this very well, I wouldn't be blaming their military.
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


NSA has backdoors into our computers. You think the government don't have more than one way of knowing absolutely everything about that is going on with computers, airplanes etc? You really think the technology they give us the sheeple masses is anything close to what they have and is possible? Heck, they can even track your cell phones when turned off. There is a reason you know of and several other we don't why batteries on iPhones can't be removed. So even when you switch it off, it could still be on in a way.

This plane isn't missing. They know where it is, that is, if there was ever any plane or incredulous story as they have sold to us in the first instance.
 Quoting: Ohwell


I was referring to the original post by the OP.

I do agree. Our government knows where this aircraft is located. Air Traffic doesn't have access to this information, but one of the alphabet agencies does.

personally I think they landed the thing on Diego Garcia, off-loaded whatever they were after and now the aircraft has been disposed of.
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Re: I'm calling out the Malaysian military. They allowed an unidentified aircraft to cross their country and did zip.
Folks. If you knew anything about air traffic, you wouldn't be saying this. When the transponder is turned off, all you have to search with is PRIMARY. When that is engaged, hell; a flock of birds will show up. Sea traffic will show up. Small planes, big planes, all look the same under PRIMARY.

If you were not tracking the aircraft with primary originally and then had to switch to it....trying to find that plane would be extremely difficult with someone with 30 years experience.

Although I don't think the Malaysian authorities have handled this very well, I wouldn't be blaming their military.
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


I'd like to respond to the above. The authorities have told us the transponder was turned off at the point along its flight path where it presumably turned to the west. As you said, primary radar is how you then track the aircraft which is exactly what the Malaysian military did;

General Rodzali said interceptors were not scrambled because the unidentified plane appeared to be a civilian aircraft.

Now, what would be the procedure for Malaysian airlines when they lose the transponder signal on secondary radar? Alert those with the capabilities of primary radar such as the military. The military have admitted they were tracking the aircraft because they said that they did not bother scrambling jets because they thought it was a civilian aircraft. The above statement from General Rodzali indicates they were tracking it in real-time as they decided in the moment that scrambling jets wasn't warranted.

The military would obviously know from what direction the civilian aircraft came from so it would have been an easy guess as to which plane it might be, taking into account any alert from Malaysian airlines that they had lost the transponder signal in the very same direction the bogey was heading away from.

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