The Middle Class Disappears, Rise of the Praetorian Class | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21425114 United States 03/15/2014 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Much attention has been paid to the “disappearing middle class” and the “vanishing American Dream.” While the observations are largely accurate, they are also misleading. The traditional three-tier model of the upper, middle and lower class broadly categorizes people according to income and net worth. One significant problem with this model is that membership in any particular class is very much in the eye of the beholder. One man’s “scraping by” is another man’s “opulent living.” This subjective and arbitrary grouping and boundary assessment inevitably gives rise to the simmering class warfare that is starting to rear its ugly head in many Western countries. Such categorization is therefore meaningless at best, if not outright deceptive as it conflates a variety of economic actors. The chief fallacy of this model rests in the fact that it focuses on how much those actors are compensated, as opposed to how and why they are compensated. A far better perspective is perhaps gained using two classes, the Political Class and the Economic Class, with a third class emerging." |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21425114 United States 03/15/2014 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Praetorian Class includes members of the Armed Services, federal, state and local law enforcement personnel as well as numerous militarized officials including agents from the DEA, Immigrations, Customs Enforcement, Air Marshalls, US Marshalls, and more. It also includes, although to a lesser extent, various stage actors in the expanding security theater such as TSA personnel. The main mission of the Praetorian Class is to keep the order of the day. This requires displaying an intimidating presence in their interactions with the Economic Class." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55202204 United States 03/15/2014 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Praetorian Class includes members of the Armed Services, federal, state and local law enforcement personnel as well as numerous militarized officials including agents from the DEA, Immigrations, Customs Enforcement, Air Marshalls, US Marshalls, and more. It also includes, although to a lesser extent, various stage actors in the expanding security theater such as TSA personnel. The main mission of the Praetorian Class is to keep the order of the day. This requires displaying an intimidating presence in their interactions with the Economic Class." Quoting: Zetetic The proletariat can subdue the praetorian with a swift kick in the crotch. You heard it here first. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35597183 United States 03/15/2014 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.historynet.com] I've heard this all before, I grow weary of a world of war for the sake of war. The valiant falling under the swords of murders to satiate the lusts of the money changers. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21425114 United States 03/15/2014 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the various tires of elites above the law, their minions the various security and enforcement apparatuses, followed by the serf classes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55632341 However, the serfs who held the real power have been programmed to believe they must step aside for the political class or be punished by the praetorian class (which has moved into the place of what had been the middle class). |
Kirk User ID: 54434042 United States 03/15/2014 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Praetorian Class includes members of the Armed Services, federal, state and local law enforcement personnel as well as numerous militarized officials including agents from the DEA, Immigrations, Customs Enforcement, Air Marshalls, US Marshalls, and more. It also includes, although to a lesser extent, various stage actors in the expanding security theater such as TSA personnel. The main mission of the Praetorian Class is to keep the order of the day. This requires displaying an intimidating presence in their interactions with the Economic Class." Quoting: Zetetic The proletariat can subdue the praetorian with a swift kick in the crotch. You heard it here first. Yeah but they have cups. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21425114 United States 03/15/2014 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.historynet.com] Quoting: Ron Swanson's Raiders! I've heard this all before, I grow weary of a world of war for the sake of war. The valiant falling under the swords of murders to satiate the lusts of the money changers. Quite a read. Seems Sparta was a full praetorian state not able to bend. All were expected to live and die by the same code. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21425114 United States 03/15/2014 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who hope the military will take the side of the citizens if/when the United States splinters... "As they serve in their martial role, members of the Praetorian Class learn to despise members of the Political Class and to view the plight of the Economic Class with detachment or even contempt. Law enforcement and military personnel will converse behind closed doors about the most horrific injustices and brutalities with cavalier amusement. While perhaps natural, their training for violence and teamwork is a fundamental cause for why members of the Praetorian Class abandon their roots and in time come to view their peers “back on the farm” with contempt. Likewise, the steady displays of the craven and treacherous character of the Political Class causes the Praetorian Class to privately disavow emotional allegiance to their masters, usually early in their service." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21425114 United States 03/15/2014 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who hope the military will take the side of the citizens if/when the United States splinters... "As they serve in their martial role, members of the Praetorian Class learn to despise members of the Political Class and to view the plight of the Economic Class with detachment or even contempt. Law enforcement and military personnel will converse behind closed doors about the most horrific injustices and brutalities with cavalier amusement. While perhaps natural, their training for violence and teamwork is a fundamental cause for why members of the Praetorian Class abandon their roots and in time come to view their peers “back on the farm” with contempt. Likewise, the steady displays of the craven and treacherous character of the Political Class causes the Praetorian Class to privately disavow emotional allegiance to their masters, usually early in their service." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46368876 United States 03/15/2014 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Much attention has been paid to the “disappearing middle class” and the “vanishing American Dream.” While the observations are largely accurate, they are also misleading. The traditional three-tier model of the upper, middle and lower class broadly categorizes people according to income and net worth. One significant problem with this model is that membership in any particular class is very much in the eye of the beholder. One man’s “scraping by” is another man’s “opulent living.” This subjective and arbitrary grouping and boundary assessment inevitably gives rise to the simmering class warfare that is starting to rear its ugly head in many Western countries. Such categorization is therefore meaningless at best, if not outright deceptive as it conflates a variety of economic actors. Quoting: Zetetic The chief fallacy of this model rests in the fact that it focuses on how much those actors are compensated, as opposed to how and why they are compensated. A far better perspective is perhaps gained using two classes, the Political Class and the Economic Class, with a third class emerging." I disagree as a "middle class american " I took a vacation, I shopped online, and I bought things with credit, which I paid off with "tax returns" which I planned for. Why are these models predicting chaos... We have a choice. ALWAYS! Choose well. |
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BattlesightZero User ID: 55245550 United States 03/15/2014 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
BattlesightZero User ID: 55245550 United States 03/15/2014 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who hope the military will take the side of the citizens if/when the United States splinters... Quoting: Zetetic "As they serve in their martial role, members of the Praetorian Class learn to despise members of the Political Class and to view the plight of the Economic Class with detachment or even contempt. Law enforcement and military personnel will converse behind closed doors about the most horrific injustices and brutalities with cavalier amusement. While perhaps natural, their training for violence and teamwork is a fundamental cause for why members of the Praetorian Class abandon their roots and in time come to view their peers “back on the farm” with contempt. Likewise, the steady displays of the craven and treacherous character of the Political Class causes the Praetorian Class to privately disavow emotional allegiance to their masters, usually early in their service." I can personally attest to this. It's why 'Bammy, Feinstein, and the rest of their ilk want veterans disarmed. We've seen behind the veil, looked into the eyes of the demon which fears to be seen. And we know it's weaknesses... Last Edited by BattlesightZero on 03/15/2014 11:47 PM BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21425114 United States 03/15/2014 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who hope the military will take the side of the citizens if/when the United States splinters... Quoting: Zetetic "As they serve in their martial role, members of the Praetorian Class learn to despise members of the Political Class and to view the plight of the Economic Class with detachment or even contempt. Law enforcement and military personnel will converse behind closed doors about the most horrific injustices and brutalities with cavalier amusement. While perhaps natural, their training for violence and teamwork is a fundamental cause for why members of the Praetorian Class abandon their roots and in time come to view their peers “back on the farm” with contempt. Likewise, the steady displays of the craven and treacherous character of the Political Class causes the Praetorian Class to privately disavow emotional allegiance to their masters, usually early in their service." I can personally attest to this. It's why 'Bammy, Feinstein, and the rest of their ilk want veterans disarmed. We've seen behind the veil, looked into the eyes of the demon which fears to be seen. And we know it's weaknesses... The Praetorian class has a code of conduct. At least one they put on the wall, even if they don't follow it. The disdain for the politicals is partially driven by their lack of moral/ethical code. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55576298 United States 03/16/2014 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.historynet.com] Quoting: Ron Swanson's Raiders! I've heard this all before, I grow weary of a world of war for the sake of war. The valiant falling under the swords of murders to satiate the lusts of the money changers. Quite a read. Seems Sparta was a full praetorian state not able to bend. All were expected to live and die by the same code. sparta was only worth a fuck cause they had like 40 helots doing the shit work for every elite warrior |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47734323 United States 03/16/2014 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Historically speaking...the Praetorian Guard was an elite group that protected the Roman rulers. It is a sidenote that they rarely liked their job. it is interesting that you bring that up as a developing modern class because in a sense it is true. I cannot count the number of times I see "public" protectors in very wealthy neighborhoods sitting in their cars...maybe write a speeding ticket but mostly there to protect the "assets" of the elite...while crime is off the chain n another part of town. It could be looked at either way...they are there to write traffic and speeding tickets to the rich folks that will pay them...or they are being paid with everyone's tax dollar to be the personal security force of the politically connected. a little but of both I think |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47582278 United States 03/16/2014 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Historically speaking...the Praetorian Guard was an elite group that protected the Roman rulers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47734323 It is a sidenote that they rarely liked their job. it is interesting that you bring that up as a developing modern class because in a sense it is true. I cannot count the number of times I see "public" protectors in very wealthy neighborhoods sitting in their cars...maybe write a speeding ticket but mostly there to protect the "assets" of the elite...while crime is off the chain n another part of town. It could be looked at either way...they are there to write traffic and speeding tickets to the rich folks that will pay them...or they are being paid with everyone's tax dollar to be the personal security force of the politically connected. a little but of both I think There were Caesars like Caligula who were killed by his own Praetorian guard. They set it up by maneuvering him and his family away from his personal guard and they killed them all off. So..... |
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-GLP-Christian- User ID: 55603637 Sweden 03/16/2014 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's Roman, the Praetorian guard were the ones that protected the Roman Dictators. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Might explain why they no longer serve and protect the people but instead incompetents and crazies like Obama and the rest of the clowns you got there in DC. They're traitors to their own nation and people basically. A better name would be the Judas class. Last Edited by -GLP-Christian- on 03/16/2014 02:10 AM Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com] Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net] The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] FRANCE IS TEH GHEY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47582278 United States 03/16/2014 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's Roman, the Praetorian guard were the ones that protected the Roman Dictators. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Might explain why they no longer serve and protect the people but instead incompetents and crazies like Obama and the rest of the clowns you got there in DC. They're traitors to their own nation and people basically. A better name would be the Judas class. Not only did the praetorian kill off some Ceasars, Brutus and a number of politicians killed Julius Caesar too, and they did it in cold blood. No one is in total control. Totally plausable that when someone finally just goes too far in their quest for power, that the ones closest to them end up taking them out. Hitler had numerous attacks on his life made throughout the war. |