1948 RESTORATION JOKE!! HOW IS ISRAEL RESTORED YET THE IMPOSTERS DO NOT EVEN BELIEVE IN CHRIST: | |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/18/2014 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why will the king be coming out of bozra drenched in blood in a newly restored Israel? it does not make sense people ..The 1948 restoration is a hoax 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
? User ID: 47340854 United States 03/18/2014 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wolf and the lamb shall graze together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox; and dust shall be the serpent's food. They shall do no evil or harm in all My holy mountain," says the LORD. (NASB) Isaiah 65:25 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar "SHOW ME THIS IN ISRAEL TODAY" Don't you find it odd that the dust eating serpent from genesis is present on the holy mountain. I think you better look more closely at what message the writer is trying to convey. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/18/2014 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55711720 United States 03/18/2014 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bozrah , if I remember right is stamping out Edom. Edom is the kingdom of Esau and is the third branch of the "Semitic" tribes. Lost of symbolism here, If you understand the 12 tribes concept and this Edom connection, then the book of Obidiah becomes a futurist book like Revelation. Early theologians thought this, but it was changed along the way. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/18/2014 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bozrah , if I remember right is stamping out Edom. Edom is the kingdom of Esau and is the third branch of the "Semitic" tribes. Lost of symbolism here, If you understand the 12 tribes concept and this Edom connection, then the book of Obidiah becomes a futurist book like Revelation. Early theologians thought this, but it was changed along the way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55711720 The edomites are there in bozrah and th eprohecy shows messiah robes dipped in blood slaying the wicked in the end time....yes you are right about edom 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Kirk User ID: 46857893 United States 03/18/2014 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bozrah , if I remember right is stamping out Edom. Edom is the kingdom of Esau and is the third branch of the "Semitic" tribes. Lost of symbolism here, If you understand the 12 tribes concept and this Edom connection, then the book of Obidiah becomes a futurist book like Revelation. Early theologians thought this, but it was changed along the way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55711720 The edomites are there in bozrah and th eprohecy shows messiah robes dipped in blood slaying the wicked in the end time....yes you are right about edom Much shall be revealed Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55770969 United States 03/18/2014 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What other nation has been destroyed with its people scattered only to once again come into existence 2,000 years later as prophesied by Isaiah? None. Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse her will be cursed. True, most do not know Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh as the one true Messiah but let God take care of that. He has an everlasting covenant with Israel and He never breaks His promises. It is the land that was promised to the descendants of Abraham forever and ever. You are not fighting Israel but our Holy God Himself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25247525 United Kingdom 03/18/2014 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote - "The Bible tells us that when MOSHIAC returns to the earth He will establish Himself as king in Jerusalem, sitting on the throne of David (Luke 1:32-33). " ----- 29“Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said, “ ‘The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand 35until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” ’f 36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.” A King has a throne and a kingdom! |
Morganite User ID: 52916162 United States 03/18/2014 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Y E T - Don't believe YET- 144,000 of them will believe in Jesus and be sealed after we've left in the rapture. Rev. 7 Many of the 144,000 will 'Come out of Her my People' - meaning when USA Babylon is Nuked in one day, 'Zion' will come to their minds and they'll leave en masse for Israel. '2 Presents will be presented to the Lord when The Lords Day begins at Seal 6 with the USA Babylon being Nuked and Ezek. 38 & Isa. 17 wars beginning. The 2 ''Presents' presented to the Lord are 2 People Groups Entering 2 Zions: 1. Raptured Church/Bride enters Heavenly Zion (Rev.7:9-17). 2. 144,000 Come Out of Nuked Babylon USA and enter earthly Zion and are sealed with a mark of protection. Both Groups of People are Presented on the Same Day to the Lord - one group on earth, the other in heaven . Isaiah 18, Rev.7 Also Important!!!! READ ZECHARIAH- A 1/3 Remnant living in Israel right now will refuse Anti-christ and flee to the wilderness for 42 months during the Tribulation/Jacobs Trouble/ Daniel's 70th Week. They will see Jesus returning with us, his bride to the Mount of Olives. They'll believe on him and cry knowing that he was their Messiah all along! Last Edited by Morganite on 03/18/2014 06:29 PM morganite |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/18/2014 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Morganite User ID: 52916162 United States 03/18/2014 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | t 264 Evidently God Wants Them Marked With His Name Rev.7:2-3 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." Rev. 14:1 "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads." Last Edited by Morganite on 03/18/2014 10:52 PM morganite |
Morganite User ID: 52916162 United States 03/18/2014 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | t 264 It's the people who worship the Anti-christ who are marked in either their HANDS or forehead in order to be able to buy or sell. The 144,000 are marked by the angel with God's name on their foreheads only. This is for physical protection during the Tribulation. You don't want to confuse the two opposite groups. Last Edited by Morganite on 03/18/2014 10:54 PM morganite |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8888995 United States 03/18/2014 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel has always been a stiff necked people.....and are referred to as such in Scripture. Many times they turned in rebellion against God. Yet God will preserve a remnant.......not for anything good about them.......but to defend His Holy Name and Promise made to Abraham for his act of faith and obedience. |
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Morganite User ID: 52916162 United States 03/18/2014 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right you are AC 995 - only 1/3 of that stiff- necked group will end up realizing Jesus is their messiah. Zechariah 11, 13, 14 especially 13:8-9 Last Edited by Morganite on 03/18/2014 10:49 PM morganite |
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Morganite User ID: 52916162 United States 03/18/2014 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for posting John MacArthur on Isaiah 52-53 - Jesus Our Messiah - listening now. ------------------------------------------ Isaiah 52:13 thru chapter 53 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. Isaiah 53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. Last Edited by Morganite on 03/18/2014 11:35 PM morganite |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/19/2014 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Modern Israel and its star of Remphan flag is not the nation of Israel that is found in Scripture. It is a man-made state and is part of the Masonic plan. Quoting: Maderan 42718698 thank you 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2312772 United States 03/19/2014 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right you are AC 995 - only 1/3 of that stiff- necked group will end up realizing Jesus is their messiah. Zechariah 11, 13, 14 especially 13:8-9 Quoting: Morganite The current Israel started 14 May 1948 is under rothschild babylonian occupation. This is done in 70 years increments as in the Old Testament. [link to www.gotquestions.org] Ezekiel 37 has been fulfilled right before our eyes. There were 70 years from Christ birth to the destruction of the second temple. Is the last as the first? Both first and second temple were destroyed on the 9th of Av. The Jewish history is marked with tragedy on the 9th of Av. Look for the coming antichrist to do something on a 9th of Av date. If you take the current US president and look at his actions and determine dates based on this 70 year interval every single thing lines up with the days of Daniel and his 70 weeks. |
waterman User ID: 35946882 United States 03/19/2014 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump for later Geographical Israel is only 2 of the 12 tribes... The other lost 10 tribes will come to that area in the end but that will be after the destruction of the nation that once knew. God but turned away from God.. After the furnace of affliction all 12 tribes will be joined again Last Edited by waterman on 03/19/2014 09:49 AM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4585784 United States 03/19/2014 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some terrible points there.. Not even worthy of a correction they are so far gone. You should let Christ redeem you instead of you using Christ to redeem a race. Luke 12 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4585784 United States 03/19/2014 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Y E T - Quoting: Morganite Don't believe YET- 144,000 of them will believe in Jesus and be sealed after we've left in the rapture. Rev. 7 Many of the 144,000 will 'Come out of Her my People' - meaning when USA Babylon is Nuked in one day, 'Zion' will come to their minds and they'll leave en masse for Israel. '2 Presents will be presented to the Lord when The Lords Day begins at Seal 6 with the USA Babylon being Nuked and Ezek. 38 & Isa. 17 wars beginning. The 2 ''Presents' presented to the Lord are 2 People Groups Entering 2 Zions: 1. Raptured Church/Bride enters Heavenly Zion (Rev.7:9-17). 2. 144,000 Come Out of Nuked Babylon USA and enter earthly Zion and are sealed with a mark of protection. Both Groups of People are Presented on the Same Day to the Lord - one group on earth, the other in heaven . Isaiah 18, Rev.7 Also Important!!!! READ ZECHARIAH- A 1/3 Remnant living in Israel right now will refuse Anti-christ and flee to the wilderness for 42 months during the Tribulation/Jacobs Trouble/ Daniel's 70th Week. They will see Jesus returning with us, his bride to the Mount of Olives. They'll believe on him and cry knowing that he was their Messiah all along! Is ignorance is bliss or is it really satans mark? It sure isn't the seal of the Living God placed in ones mind. All it takes is one little twist for many to be strewn off into the weeds of unbelief in the doctrines of Christ. There is righteous purpose and lessons for those that stray off into unbelief that they too might be redeemed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2312772 United States 03/19/2014 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Y E T - Quoting: Morganite Don't believe YET- 144,000 of them will believe in Jesus and be sealed after we've left in the rapture. Rev. 7 Many of the 144,000 will 'Come out of Her my People' - meaning when USA Babylon is Nuked in one day, 'Zion' will come to their minds and they'll leave en masse for Israel. '2 Presents will be presented to the Lord when The Lords Day begins at Seal 6 with the USA Babylon being Nuked and Ezek. 38 & Isa. 17 wars beginning. The 2 ''Presents' presented to the Lord are 2 People Groups Entering 2 Zions: 1. Raptured Church/Bride enters Heavenly Zion (Rev.7:9-17). 2. 144,000 Come Out of Nuked Babylon USA and enter earthly Zion and are sealed with a mark of protection. Both Groups of People are Presented on the Same Day to the Lord - one group on earth, the other in heaven . Isaiah 18, Rev.7 Also Important!!!! READ ZECHARIAH- A 1/3 Remnant living in Israel right now will refuse Anti-christ and flee to the wilderness for 42 months during the Tribulation/Jacobs Trouble/ Daniel's 70th Week. They will see Jesus returning with us, his bride to the Mount of Olives. They'll believe on him and cry knowing that he was their Messiah all along! Is ignorance is bliss or is it really satans mark? It sure isn't the seal of the Living God placed in ones mind. All it takes is one little twist for many to be strewn off into the weeds of unbelief in the doctrines of Christ. There is righteous purpose and lessons for those that stray off into unbelief that they too might be redeemed. Have you been baptized with fire and received your Book of Life name written on a white stone? What is the result if you don't? Maybe it is you who has absorbed ignorance like a sponge. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2312772 United States 03/19/2014 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why will the king be coming out of bozra drenched in blood in a newly restored Israel? it does not make sense people ..The 1948 restoration is a hoax Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar I would not call rothschild babylonian occupation of 70 years a hoax but part of biblical fulfillment. The father of Israel, Abraham was born 1948 years after creation per the Masoretic calendar. Scroll down and look at the birth year entry for his first name Abram at "Abraham to united monarchy". [link to en.wikipedia.org] Here is the growth of that Father of Israel as there is a convergence of time. The dark ptb know time is converging and have done many things to cover it up one of which is the gregorian calendar instituted by the RCC in 1582. The end of the mayan calendar in 2012 marked 430 years just like the captivity of the Jews in Israel. This was foretold to Abraham in the 70th year of his life. From biblegateway.com Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4585784 United States 03/19/2014 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Y E T - Quoting: Morganite Don't believe YET- 144,000 of them will believe in Jesus and be sealed after we've left in the rapture. Rev. 7 Many of the 144,000 will 'Come out of Her my People' - meaning when USA Babylon is Nuked in one day, 'Zion' will come to their minds and they'll leave en masse for Israel. '2 Presents will be presented to the Lord when The Lords Day begins at Seal 6 with the USA Babylon being Nuked and Ezek. 38 & Isa. 17 wars beginning. The 2 ''Presents' presented to the Lord are 2 People Groups Entering 2 Zions: 1. Raptured Church/Bride enters Heavenly Zion (Rev.7:9-17). 2. 144,000 Come Out of Nuked Babylon USA and enter earthly Zion and are sealed with a mark of protection. Both Groups of People are Presented on the Same Day to the Lord - one group on earth, the other in heaven . Isaiah 18, Rev.7 Also Important!!!! READ ZECHARIAH- A 1/3 Remnant living in Israel right now will refuse Anti-christ and flee to the wilderness for 42 months during the Tribulation/Jacobs Trouble/ Daniel's 70th Week. They will see Jesus returning with us, his bride to the Mount of Olives. They'll believe on him and cry knowing that he was their Messiah all along! Is ignorance is bliss or is it really satans mark? It sure isn't the seal of the Living God placed in ones mind. All it takes is one little twist for many to be strewn off into the weeds of unbelief in the doctrines of Christ. There is righteous purpose and lessons for those that stray off into unbelief that they too might be redeemed. Have you been baptized with fire and received your Book of Life name written on a white stone? What is the result if you don't? Maybe it is you who has absorbed ignorance like a sponge. One needs to overcome this world to get the stone right? Yet mannah is there that most don't understand is right there in Gods Word. If God wanted it to be different then it would be so. Fire and charity go hand in hand. So please don't be offended with the charity I myself recieved now shared. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2312772 United States 03/19/2014 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Y E T - Quoting: Morganite Don't believe YET- 144,000 of them will believe in Jesus and be sealed after we've left in the rapture. Rev. 7 Many of the 144,000 will 'Come out of Her my People' - meaning when USA Babylon is Nuked in one day, 'Zion' will come to their minds and they'll leave en masse for Israel. '2 Presents will be presented to the Lord when The Lords Day begins at Seal 6 with the USA Babylon being Nuked and Ezek. 38 & Isa. 17 wars beginning. The 2 ''Presents' presented to the Lord are 2 People Groups Entering 2 Zions: 1. Raptured Church/Bride enters Heavenly Zion (Rev.7:9-17). 2. 144,000 Come Out of Nuked Babylon USA and enter earthly Zion and are sealed with a mark of protection. Both Groups of People are Presented on the Same Day to the Lord - one group on earth, the other in heaven . Isaiah 18, Rev.7 Also Important!!!! READ ZECHARIAH- A 1/3 Remnant living in Israel right now will refuse Anti-christ and flee to the wilderness for 42 months during the Tribulation/Jacobs Trouble/ Daniel's 70th Week. They will see Jesus returning with us, his bride to the Mount of Olives. They'll believe on him and cry knowing that he was their Messiah all along! Is ignorance is bliss or is it really satans mark? It sure isn't the seal of the Living God placed in ones mind. All it takes is one little twist for many to be strewn off into the weeds of unbelief in the doctrines of Christ. There is righteous purpose and lessons for those that stray off into unbelief that they too might be redeemed. Have you been baptized with fire and received your Book of Life name written on a white stone? What is the result if you don't? Maybe it is you who has absorbed ignorance like a sponge. One needs to overcome this world to get the stone right? Yet mannah is there that most don't understand is right there in Gods Word. If God wanted it to be different then it would be so. Fire and charity go hand in hand. So please don't be offended with the charity I myself recieved now shared. Maybe you should take heed of what was said to the church of Ephesus in Revelation 2. There is a mystery in Ephesians 4 which is part of this current generation. The first shall be last and the last shall be first. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52662582 United States 03/19/2014 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel was prophesized to be reborn in a day = Ezekiel Dry Bone prophecy They would gather in unbelief. They will follow the wrong Christ as prophesied by Jesus. When the mid trib begins, they will recognize their mistake and become "Christians". When they call on the name of Jesus to save their nation, the end will come. |