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Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?

 
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Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
We are told that there must have been a struggle or an inexperienced pilot. It was not necessary to go that high to kill the passengers.

Yet it makes sense to me that an experience airline pilot went that high.

Going that high is something you cannot do as an airline pilot, but this is something that this pilot has thought about for years. Now he has taken over the plane and has killed the passengers. Now it’s his plane and he can do whatever he wants.

So he takes that airship up to see what it can do. He goes up high enough to see the curve of the earth.

Is that so hard to believe?

It proves nothing. Everything appears to have gone as planned.

There’s no reason to believe this mission was a failure. A lot of jihadists were involved in this effort and a place was prepared for this plane to land, perhaps in the jungles of Indonesia.

That plane is on the ground somewhere.

If this plane is in Iran or Pakistan they are going to target Israel, if it is in Indonesia they are going to hit the west coast of the US.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Kill passengers before they know something is wrong and start to revolt!
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Maybe there was a fire onboard and the pilot was trying to control it by heading to airspace that had less oxygen to put it out?
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Maybe there was a fire onboard and the pilot was trying to control it by heading to airspace that had less oxygen to put it out?
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
370 is on the ground for a paint job/new logo.Israel won't know which 777 to shoot down....Don't fly in a Boeing 777 for a while.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
How do they know it got up to 45K if the transponder was turned off at 35K?
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
To dock with the moon. It's much much closer than we think.

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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
370 is on the ground for a paint job/new logo.Israel won't know which 777 to shoot down....Don't fly in a Boeing 777 for a while.
 Quoting: perfect monster 2628425


A new paint job, and maybe some repairs. It may be a few days or weeks before the attack.

I'm thinking Los Angeles, because I think the plane is in Indonesia.

I wouldn't fly a 777 anywhere near Israel, but what is the US doing to prepare?

That's why I think the US is a better target.

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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
How do they know it got up to 45K if the transponder was turned off at 35K?
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Good question. How do they know that?
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
It was trying to mirror another aircraft that was flying in a similar direction. With no radar separation, they would have to climb to an altitude that would be safe. To air-traffic controllers it would most likely look like one aircraft.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
the plane was flown remotely

You go that high because when the plane decompresses at 45000 feet those inside lose consciousness much faster than if they were at 35ooo feet.

Someone wanted to make sure that no one had time to react.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
It was trying to mirror another aircraft that was flying in a similar direction. With no radar separation, they would have to climb to an altitude that would be safe. To air-traffic controllers it would most likely look like one aircraft.
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which one?

That story is thrown out there a lot, but if it were true then they would have some candidates, but no one has stated even one. it is bs
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
the plane was flown remotely

You go that high because when the plane decompresses at 45000 feet those inside lose consciousness much faster than if they were at 35ooo feet.

Someone wanted to make sure that no one had time to react.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14425351


Folks. I don't who is saying that the aircraft decompresses at 45,000 feet. This is not true. You can fly a 20,000 fleet and decompress that airplane from the cockpit.

If they went to 45,000 and that is confirmed, then most likely they climb to that altitude because there's less air-traffic at that altitude then lower altitudes. My best guess is they were trying to mirror another aircraft that was flying a similar course. They were not transmitting with the transponder Therefore air-traffic control probably didn't even know that they were there. But if by some chance the primary radar which is different than normal radar, pick them up it would probably look like an echo of the aircraft that they had on their screen
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
We are told that there must have been a struggle or an inexperienced pilot. It was not necessary to go that high to kill the passengers.

Yet it makes sense to me that an experience airline pilot went that high.

Going that high is something you cannot do as an airline pilot, but this is something that this pilot has thought about for years. Now he has taken over the plane and has killed the passengers. Now it’s his plane and he can do whatever he wants.


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very good point. Brilliant actually.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
We are told that there must have been a struggle or an inexperienced pilot. It was not necessary to go that high to kill the passengers.

Yet it makes sense to me that an experience airline pilot went that high.

Going that high is something you cannot do as an airline pilot, but this is something that this pilot has thought about for years. Now he has taken over the plane and has killed the passengers. Now it’s his plane and he can do whatever he wants.

So he takes that airship up to see what it can do. He goes up high enough to see the curve of the earth.

Is that so hard to believe?

It proves nothing. Everything appears to have gone as planned.

There’s no reason to believe this mission was a failure. A lot of jihadists were involved in this effort and a place was prepared for this plane to land, perhaps in the jungles of Indonesia.

That plane is on the ground somewhere.

If this plane is in Iran or Pakistan they are going to target Israel, if it is in Indonesia they are going to hit the west coast of the US.
 Quoting: StashLazarus


MY THEORY:

Lithium ion batteries in the cargo hold had caught fire. They are very hard to put out!

He climbed hoping that thin oxygen and cold air would quench the fire. An aviation expert on CNN last night said:

Fairly common in airplane emergencies, often reflecting a heroic pilot doing all he can to save the plane.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
We are told that there must have been a struggle or an inexperienced pilot. It was not necessary to go that high to kill the passengers.

Yet it makes sense to me that an experience airline pilot went that high.

Going that high is something you cannot do as an airline pilot, but this is something that this pilot has thought about for years. Now he has taken over the plane and has killed the passengers. Now it’s his plane and he can do whatever he wants.

So he takes that airship up to see what it can do. He goes up high enough to see the curve of the earth.

Is that so hard to believe?

It proves nothing. Everything appears to have gone as planned.

There’s no reason to believe this mission was a failure. A lot of jihadists were involved in this effort and a place was prepared for this plane to land, perhaps in the jungles of Indonesia.

That plane is on the ground somewhere.

If this plane is in Iran or Pakistan they are going to target Israel, if it is in Indonesia they are going to hit the west coast of the US.
 Quoting: StashLazarus


MY THEORY:

Lithium ion batteries in the cargo hold had caught fire. They are very hard to put out!

He climbed hoping that thin oxygen and cold air would quench the fire. An aviation expert on CNN last night said:

Fairly common in airplane emergencies, often reflecting a heroic pilot doing all he can to save the plane.
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They would have called a Mayday.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
 Quoting: centrist77


You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
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Yes but they can turn the pressure down from the cockpit. They don't have to climb to 45000 to deprive them of oxygen. At 30000 decompressed you can live for a while. But eventually you will die. It looks like they flew for several hours. This would be more than enough time to kill everyone.
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Also. If the plane did go down, we would have found something by now. Luggage. Something floating.

This aircraft was stolen. For what purpose remains a mystery. I do think the US govt knows where it ultimately wound up. They have been to quiet about the whole thing.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
How do they know it got up to 45K if the transponder was turned off at 35K?
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Radar return angle.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
the plane was flown remotely

You go that high because when the plane decompresses at 45000 feet those inside lose consciousness much faster than if they were at 35ooo feet.

Someone wanted to make sure that no one had time to react.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14425351


Folks. I don't who is saying that the aircraft decompresses at 45,000 feet. This is not true. You can fly a 20,000 fleet and decompress that airplane from the cockpit.

If they went to 45,000 and that is confirmed, then most likely they climb to that altitude because there's less air-traffic at that altitude then lower altitudes. My best guess is they were trying to mirror another aircraft that was flying a similar course. They were not transmitting with the transponder Therefore air-traffic control probably didn't even know that they were there. But if by some chance the primary radar which is different than normal radar, pick them up it would probably look like an echo of the aircraft that they had on their screen
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Hey idiot, google useful consciousness. They knew and know exactly what happened to the jet.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
 Quoting: centrist77


You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
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Yes but they can turn the pressure down from the cockpit. They don't have to climb to 45000 to deprive them of oxygen. At 30000 decompressed you can live for a while. But eventually you will die. It looks like they flew for several hours. This would be more than enough time to kill everyone.
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It was done remotely. Even the cockpit was sucked. The higher the plane the less time the crew has to react. There was no one alive on the jet 20 minutes after allright goodnight.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Kill passengers before they know something is wrong and start to revolt!
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You get a better snapshot at that altitude from our overhead platform.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Anti-hijacking electronics were enabled by the pilot. Steep climb disorients and disables hijackers. Since we can't have the world know that commercial airliners are actually drones the plane is flown remote control to Diego Garcia for safe keeping. Don't worry we are treating the passengers well.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Didnt the plane dive drastically after the climb?
Maybe the dive was the important move.
Can't dive unless you climb.
Or maybe the climb was a mercifully quick way for sleeping passengers to sleep forever.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
How do they know it got up to 45K if the transponder was turned off at 35K?
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Good question. How do they know that?
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Thanks. I'm not sure how they would know.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
 Quoting: centrist77


You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
 Quoting: centrist77


Yes but they can turn the pressure down from the cockpit. They don't have to climb to 45000 to deprive them of oxygen. At 30000 decompressed you can live for a while. But eventually you will die. It looks like they flew for several hours. This would be more than enough time to kill everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35219528


Ueah but they didnt want to stay at 30,000 plus people will live diff ammt of time based on body fat, age, health, ect.


45,000 kills em all guarentee
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Didnt the plane dive drastically after the climb?
Maybe the dive was the important move.
Can't dive unless you climb.
Or maybe the climb was a mercifully quick way for sleeping passengers to sleep forever.
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maybe it went into a stall condition for flying too high and was then saved during the dive
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
You can knock passengers out at 30,000 but there is enough air to survive. Mt. Everest is that tall. 45,000 feet would kill them. If you wamt to eliminate everyone not in the plot it would be a logical move. They would not want 200 people waking up went they go back down to a lower altitude. They basically made a reverse gas chamber.
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would the captain, father of three (?) children, husband, great, smart, supportive guy, kill 230 innocent peopel in a gas chamber?
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Also. If the plane did go down, we would have found something by now. Luggage. Something floating.

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not if it ditched in one piece (which would be again very difficult to do, but not impossible) and then just sank few hours later

everyone was already killed, the captain smoke a last cig or drink and killed himselv

then again, Like said earlier, I find it hard to believe he did it

BUT, if he really wanted to commit suicide and didn't care about taking 230 innocent people with him, then he might have taken all these steps, so that no one can find out the reason for the crash with 100% certainity

both insurance reasons, as well as image reasons.
He'll rather be remembered by the children and frieds as a great guy, perhaps a victim of hijackers, than as a monster.
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Re: Why did the Malaysia jetliner go to 45,000 feet?
Kill passengers before they know something is wrong and start to revolt!
 Quoting: KipKat


that seems to be the only logical answer

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