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The true ROI is completely unknown at this time because there has not been an adequate case count of people with Ebola. This is due to the fact that so many are being turned away from treatment centers, or just prefer to remain at home and die there.

The truth will be found in how many of the new beds being constructed by gov'ts outside of the epicenter will be filled, and how rapidly.

My guess is they will be filled as fast as they are constructed and the petition of twice as many new beds stat will be 'heard round the world'.
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The true ROI is completely unknown at this time because there has not been an adequate case count of people with Ebola. This is due to the fact that so many are being turned away from treatment centers, or just prefer to remain at home and die there.

The truth will be found in how many of the new beds being constructed by gov'ts outside of the epicenter will be filled, and how rapidly.

My guess is they will be filled as fast as they are constructed and the petition of twice as many new beds stat will be 'heard round the world'.
 Quoting: Aspamce


A very large indicator was from that PBS video posted.

One sick person exposing 17 in the one family.

That's potential of 10 X or more in weeks.

did not look to be airborne yet there, in this area.

The video was what June?

Before airborne was RELEASED.
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My sense was the Internet as we know it today may not be around some time in the future, for a variety of reasons. Pandemic being one of them. Government censorship being another.

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The true ROI is completely unknown at this time because there has not been an adequate case count of people with Ebola. This is due to the fact that so many are being turned away from treatment centers, or just prefer to remain at home and die there.

The truth will be found in how many of the new beds being constructed by gov'ts outside of the epicenter will be filled, and how rapidly.

My guess is they will be filled as fast as they are constructed and the petition of twice as many new beds stat will be 'heard round the world'.
 Quoting: Aspamce


A very large indicator was from that PBS video posted.

One sick person exposing 17 in the one family.

That's potential of 10 X or more in weeks.

did not look to be airborne yet there, in this area.

The video was what June?

Before airborne was RELEASED.
 Quoting: HnryBwmn///KD0WSJ


This film interests me. This man, who escaped from a quarantine, has suspected active Ebola yet no rash and no external bleeding from eyes, etc. The only reason anyone knew he had Ebola was the presence of a wristband around his arm. He eluded his captors for a bit, and for a walking dead man, seemed fairly agile to me.

How many people like this man are walking around with Ebola apparently, or at least superficially, symptom free?

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Venezuela

Autopsy reveals multiple complications in victims of fever syndrome


[link to english.eluniversal.com]

Pictures, medical reports and autopsy data are being gathered by members of the Medical Association of Aragua state, central north Venezuela, where nine people have died in the last few days reportedly from a hemorrhagic fever syndrome. Another person died in Caracas on Sunday from the same condition.

To date, doctors do not know whether the disease is caused by a virus or bacteria.

[snip]

"Three to five days are enough for running the tests, but they (health authorities) have not said anything. This is an emergency, we do not know what we are facing and we need to know the causes in order to provide appropriate treatment to prevent the collapse of the patient's organs, and also to set up epidemiological surveillance. This is a very aggressive disease that causes deterioration of patients within 72 hours and causes death," said a doctor who attended a meeting convened on Tuesday night at the headquarters of the Medical Association of Aragua state and who requested anonymity.

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The autopsy report shows hepatomegaly, strong steatosis, congestive spleen, pale kidneys, hemorrhagic enterocolitis, erosive pleuritis and petechiae in the upper limbs.


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*hepatomegaly-an abnormal enlargement of the liver, usually associated with liver disease or heart failure.
*steatosis-deterioration of the cells of the body, accompanied by the formation of fat globules within the diseased cells.
*enterocolitis-inflammation of the small intestine and the colon.
*pleuritis-inflamation of the pleura
*pleura-a delicate serous membrane investing each lung in mammals and folded back as a lining of the corresponding side of the thorax.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


These are internal indications consistent with [classic] Ebola...
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I can't sell them. My intent is to give them away to individuals around the country - when that time comes. We're not quite there yet.
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I'm amazed Bio WMDs haven't been used yet.
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Are you serious?

Soviet Russia used weaponized Anthrax against the rebels in Afghanistan in the mid 1980s. There is also reason to believe that SARS and MERS are weaponized viruses, most likely also deployed by Russia against China and the Saudis.

The current "Ebola" outbreak is most likely a weaponized version of the virus developed by the USAMRIID at Ft. Detrick, MD.

And there is a growing possibility that the EV-D68 virus is of Chinese manufacture, and that it has been released in Russia, as well as the US.

Never forget that "TPTB" are not a monolithic group... there is a 3-way power struggle going on, right now, around the globe, for supremacy between the various factions.

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Venezuela believes Ebola Information is Terrorism by the media:

They can not say we have Ebola, begin to say that these appeared an irresponsible, criminal and unethical rare virus. We are going to investigate it because that creates terrorism, "he said.

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...


It was a generic comment, not directed at anyone.
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Now that OP is conveniently out of the way on this high traffic thread, what is the name of the steering commity and who do they work for. Me thinks you are way to informed for one who golfs. I have seen it many times on GLP. And you fit the description to a T.
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Am I being accused of something?

Please clarify.
 Quoting: NawtyBits

well to me you seem to be a little over bearing on a thread you did not start. Who died and made you god. perhaps you are just a control freak, trying to impress your ideas on others. or perhaps its something else. If the shoe fits wear it. If not forget about it.
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Talk story ~ I can with the utmost confidence tell you that WE (those who are on this thread daily and have been for months) do not find him ~ bossy overbearing nor Godlike (unless its his mad research skills those are pretty godlike at times) he does the largest percentage of the researching/sourcing and is appreciated for what he does. Thanks Nawty
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It was a generic comment, not directed at anyone.
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Now that OP is conveniently out of the way on this high traffic thread, what is the name of the steering commity and who do they work for. Me thinks you are way to informed for one who golfs. I have seen it many times on GLP. And you fit the description to a T.
 Quoting: talkstory


Am I being accused of something?

Please clarify.
 Quoting: NawtyBits

well to me you seem to be a little over bearing on a thread you did not start. Who died and made you god. perhaps you are just a control freak, trying to impress your ideas on others. or perhaps its something else. If the shoe fits wear it. If not forget about it.
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are you kidding me. What is wrong with people these days. Nawty has not taken over anything. Posting as he finds information. KUDOS to you Nawty. Dear Lord "talk" get a freakin grip!!!!
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well to me you seem to be a little over bearing on a thread you did not start. Who died and made you god. perhaps you are just a control freak, trying to impress your ideas on others. or perhaps its something else. If the shoe fits wear it. If not forget about it.
 Quoting: talkstory


are you kidding me. What is wrong with people these days. Nawty has not taken over anything. Posting as he finds information. KUDOS to you Nawty. Dear Lord "talk" get a freakin grip!!!!
 Quoting: miabelieves


Talkstory is a troll. If you go back through this thread alone, this is the 3rd time he has started sh*t with one of the regular posters.

troll-cry


Nawty and everyone else who's a serious contributor, please ignore this fool... and thanks for all of your contributions!

hf

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I'm seeing from different sources that during the hearing today, Senator Burr said something like "based on their information, that R0=5-20."

Buckle up.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


"5 - 20" R0?

That's a wake up call if there ever was one. Now congressmen have been known to be science challenged - I wonder if this was what he was briefed? Did he mis-speak?

At a RO of 10, the World is screwed in a matter of a few months.


This is a major departure from the demonstrated R0 of around 2 - 3. If it was larger than that, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria would have ceased to exist by now.

Is Burr describing a new airborne mutation?
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I like you have been on thread from the beginning. I have read every post. He post good article but in one area he has at every turn tried to limit any expression of an alternative to the statement professed by modern medicine that there is no cure for ebola. I for one believe there are many alternative treatments. But everytime anyone posts them they seem to be attacked, red karma, and accused of derailing the thread. lol what fucking joke after some of the Bs posts that have appeared on this thread, with no complaints of derailment. but let someone post anything having to do with treating Ebola alternatively and the shills come out of the wood work. take it for what its worth, we supposedly enjoy the freedom of speech. But some on thread would seem to want to limit that. Absent a fair hearing on any subject matter that is not mainstream. Just makes one wonder.
 Quoting: talkstory


This is the spammer who was posting all the MMS bullshit back around page 80, and again around page 200 of this thread. Now he's back whining because we don't want to hear about his quackery.

If you think you've got a magic fukkin cure, then go start your own thread to talk about it --- you're BS is not welcome here. This thread is about the progression of the outbreak...facts, figures, actual real data and what it means, not imaginary "cures".

Now be GONE.
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I would like to thank Dr. WHO for the Upgrade! Publicly, that is.
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I'm seeing from different sources that during the hearing today, Senator Burr said something like "based on their information, that R0=5-20."

Buckle up.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


"5 - 20" R0?

That's a wake up call if there ever was one. Now congressmen have been known to be science challenged - I wonder if this was what he was briefed? Did he mis-speak?

At a RO of 10, the World is screwed in a matter of a few months.


This is a major departure from the demonstrated R0 of around 2 - 3. If it was larger than that, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria would have ceased to exist by now.

Is Burr describing a new airborne mutation?
 Quoting: Cheyenne


Remember when I stated that the R0 is increasing geometrically, by a function which closely approximated a Natural Log?

According to the models I've been working with, the R0 progression is running along this curve:

1.92 Intial ROI
2.57 <---Present ROI
3.517 ROI effective ~1st week of October
4.774 ROI effective 2nd week of November
6.337 ROI effective 4th week of November
8.183 ROI effective 1st week of December
10.285 ROI effective 4th week of December
12.616 ROI effective 1st week of January
15.151 ROI effective 3rd week of January
17.869 ROI effective 1st week of February
20.752 ROI effective 2nd week of February
...etc

Note that not only does each step in the progression get bigger, but the period (number of days) for each step gets shorter, as well.

The big bump in acceleration as of October is due to the Hajj, when tens of thousands of muslims will be infected in Mecca, and bring the virus home with them, where they will propagate new hot-spots all over the world.

Islam really is going to subdue the world... just not the way the muslims want it to.
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I'm seeing from different sources that during the hearing today, Senator Burr said something like "based on their information, that R0=5-20."

Buckle up.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


"5 - 20" R0?

That's a wake up call if there ever was one. Now congressmen have been known to be science challenged - I wonder if this was what he was briefed? Did he mis-speak?

At a RO of 10, the World is screwed in a matter of a few months.


This is a major departure from the demonstrated R0 of around 2 - 3. If it was larger than that, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria would have ceased to exist by now.

Is Burr describing a new airborne mutation?
 Quoting: Cheyenne


Remember when I stated that the R0 is increasing geometrically, by a function which closely approximated a Natural Log?

According to the models I've been working with, the R0 progression is running along this curve:

1.92 Intial ROI
2.57 <---Present ROI
3.517 ROI effective ~1st week of October
4.774 ROI effective 2nd week of November
6.337 ROI effective 4th week of November
8.183 ROI effective 1st week of December
10.285 ROI effective 4th week of December
12.616 ROI effective 1st week of January
15.151 ROI effective 3rd week of January
17.869 ROI effective 1st week of February
20.752 ROI effective 2nd week of February
...etc

Note that not only does each step in the progression get bigger, but the period (number of days) for each step gets shorter, as well.

The big bump in acceleration as of October is due to the Hajj, when tens of thousands of muslims will be infected in Mecca, and bring the virus home with them, where they will propagate new hot-spots all over the world.

Islam really is going to subdue the world... just not the way the muslims want it to.
 Quoting: BattlesightZero

I find it amazing given the current situation that Hajj is even going forward, just an invitation for disaster.
talkstory
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Some of you may find this interesting. I've been developing an off-line Internet archive for the past ten years. It encompasses two compressed terabytes of the most important websites and reference information. If you printed it out it would be a football field, knee-high in paper.

My sense was the Internet as we know it today may not be around some time in the future, for a variety of reasons. Pandemic being one of them. Government censorship being another.

All the information you would need to rebuild a society is in there. Medical, technological, engineering, farming, etc.

It's all indexed with a Google-like interface and can slip into your pocket.
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is there a way to distribute copies, eps if the grid goes down or an EMP? if your records are links, what happens when the web starts deleting old ones? as you know, google cache now extends back only 2 yrs and pretty much excludes anything other than MSM controlled sources for present searches
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I like you have been on thread from the beginning. I have read every post. He post good article but in one area he has at every turn tried to limit any expression of an alternative to the statement professed by modern medicine that there is no cure for ebola. I for one believe there are many alternative treatments. But everytime anyone posts them they seem to be attacked, red karma, and accused of derailing the thread. lol what fucking joke after some of the Bs posts that have appeared on this thread, with no complaints of derailment. but let someone post anything having to do with treating Ebola alternatively and the shills come out of the wood work. take it for what its worth, we supposedly enjoy the freedom of speech. But some on thread would seem to want to limit that. Absent a fair hearing on any subject matter that is not mainstream. Just makes one wonder.
 Quoting: talkstory


This is the spammer who was posting all the MMS bullshit back around page 80, and again around page 200 of this thread. Now he's back whining because we don't want to hear about his quackery.

If you think you've got a magic fukkin cure, then go start your own thread to talk about it --- you're BS is not welcome here. This thread is about the progression of the outbreak...facts, figures, actual real data and what it means, not imaginary "cures".

Now be GONE.
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Oh and now this your thread, that you can dictate who posts what. lol, Think again. I did start a thread on the subject, and later posted for those interested a link and now according to you I am a spammer. lol, ROFL. Who do you work for. Real data, at every other turn someone on this thread is accusing the posts being posted of being bogus. Real data, I seriously doubt it. I can't even think that you believe the BS you just posted. Please respond and side track this thread some more.

PS be gone, arrogant much. ROFL
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Until Nihilist shows back up, this thread is guided by those who add the most to it. I'm speaking of Nawty, BZ, Angel, ZD, Pool and the rest.

I'm not quite convinced what your game is. If it is to develop a cure, then please start another thread, develop a that cure, and in a year we'll read how you purchased both Microsoft and Fecebook as a gift to your cat.

Deceive, degrade, deny, disrupt, and destroy. These are the ways of trolls and shills. If you aren't adding to the conversation you are taking away from it. So unless you are constructive in your comments, please find another venue to post on.
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Some of you may find this interesting. I've been developing an off-line Internet archive for the past ten years. It encompasses two compressed terabytes of the most important websites and reference information. If you printed it out it would be a football field, knee-high in paper.

My sense was the Internet as we know it today may not be around some time in the future, for a variety of reasons. Pandemic being one of them. Government censorship being another.

All the information you would need to rebuild a society is in there. Medical, technological, engineering, farming, etc.

It's all indexed with a Google-like interface and can slip into your pocket.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


is there a way to distribute copies, eps if the grid goes down or an EMP? if your records are links, what happens when the web starts deleting old ones? as you know, google cache now extends back only 2 yrs and pretty much excludes anything other than MSM controlled sources for present searches
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These records are full webpages, many with the graphics still imbedded. It is completely independent of the existing Internet.

In case of an EMP or after a pandemic, the way to distribute them would be:

1) Raid empty business for good hard drives
2) Burn new copies using solar power, praying the OS doesn't need Microsoft Customer Support
3) Get a horse, rifle, and food supplies.
4) Make the delivery at 3 mph.

Have you ever read Canticle for Leibowitz?
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Thanks. folks. I don't think talkstory is a troll. He has contributed in the past. I do believe he is still angry at me for suggesting that he start his own cure thread (which he did.)

Talkstory, the amount of caring I have for your opinion of me or my agenda is soooo infinitesimally small, that it is immeasurable. If suggesting you start your own thread, and mentioning that maybe this thread or forum is not the best place to give or seek medical advice is "controlling", then so be it. By the way? I never give red karma, except to the most egregious assholes or idiots. You haven't even come close. You're just a jerk-off, sometimes. It is what it is. There are a lot on GLP.
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Some of you may find this interesting. I've been developing an off-line Internet archive for the past ten years. It encompasses two compressed terabytes of the most important websites and reference information. If you printed it out it would be a football field, knee-high in paper.

My sense was the Internet as we know it today may not be around some time in the future, for a variety of reasons. Pandemic being one of them. Government censorship being another.

All the information you would need to rebuild a society is in there. Medical, technological, engineering, farming, etc.

It's all indexed with a Google-like interface and can slip into your pocket.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


is there a way to distribute copies, eps if the grid goes down or an EMP? if your records are links, what happens when the web starts deleting old ones? as you know, google cache now extends back only 2 yrs and pretty much excludes anything other than MSM controlled sources for present searches
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These records are full webpages, many with the graphics still imbedded. It is completely independent of the existing Internet.

In case of an EMP or after a pandemic, the way to distribute them would be:

1) Raid empty business for good hard drives
2) Burn new copies using solar power, praying the OS doesn't need Microsoft Customer Support
3) Get a horse, rifle, and food supplies.
4) Make the delivery at 3 mph.

Have you ever read Canticle for Leibowitz?
 Quoting: Cheyenne


I'll meet you 1/2 way.
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Thanks for all the red karma, send more, just proves my point. abusive posts lol. At least one of you gave some green.

The real shills and friends of the big think tanks that attempt to control public opinion are showing themselves. Pay attention people. There is an agend at work here. over and out.
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Think tank? In a way, yes, I suppose we are. A group of people working together for a common goal. And we are doing a good job, too.

Why are YOU trying to derail us?
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Thanks for all the red karma, send more, just proves my point. abusive posts lol. At least one of you gave some green.

The real shills and friends of the big think tanks that attempt to control public opinion are showing themselves. Pay attention people. There is an agend at work here. over and out.
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Think tank? In a way, yes, I suppose we are. A group of people working together for a common goal. And we are doing a good job, too.

Why are YOU trying to derail us?
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NB not trying to derail this thread, any more than people posting link to prep threads and talking about them on this thread, different people have different interests in regards ebola. I have limited my mention of MMS and started a thread in that regard, posting a link here for those that are interested. And for that I get called all sorts of things. and red karma. I really don't feel its your place to say what can be posted on this thread, that was my point in regards your comment about treatments and giving medical advice. So Once again I will say that I for one appreciate you hard work in posting links etc. Thank you. But please don't attempt to limit the discussion to only what appeals to you. Peace.
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Hajj is the first week of October, so we should know by November whether or not it was a vector.
"I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump
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Countries Require an Ebola Clearance Certificate Before Entry. Can't go past airport arrival.

[link to www.standardmedia.co.ke]

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Netherlands
Dubai
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Samaratin's Purse Supplies Venezuela with Farm Animals too??

In Venezuela, a girl who received a winter hat, gloves and a scarf in her box exclaimed, “How did God know I would need these? I am moving to the mountains where it snows!”
[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]
[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]


[link to www.duewest.org]



The same company Samaratans Purse, who gives goats and livestock to villages, had the volunteer who got sick.

[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]



I believe this child was given milk from an infected goat perhaps...just like the sperm of males, milk can contain the virus.

Thread: Meet Ebola PATIENT ZERO -- it killed him, his mom, his sister and his grandmother

Worldwide, goat milk is the most highly consumed form of milk and, amidst the varying dairy goat types; Nigerian Dwarf goat milk is increasingly popular.

[link to www.betterhensandgardens.com]

Sponsoring animals and livestock for African villages could be contaminated as well.

[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]
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Some of you may find this interesting. I've been developing an off-line Internet archive for the past ten years. It encompasses two compressed terabytes of the most important websites and reference information. If you printed it out it would be a football field, knee-high in paper.

My sense was the Internet as we know it today may not be around some time in the future, for a variety of reasons. Pandemic being one of them. Government censorship being another.

All the information you would need to rebuild a society is in there. Medical, technological, engineering, farming, etc.

It's all indexed with a Google-like interface and can slip into your pocket.
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is there a way to distribute copies, eps if the grid goes down or an EMP? if your records are links, what happens when the web starts deleting old ones? as you know, google cache now extends back only 2 yrs and pretty much excludes anything other than MSM controlled sources for present searches
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These records are full webpages, many with the graphics still imbedded. It is completely independent of the existing Internet.

In case of an EMP or after a pandemic, the way to distribute them would be:

1) Raid empty business for good hard drives
2) Burn new copies using solar power, praying the OS doesn't need Microsoft Customer Support
3) Get a horse, rifle, and food supplies.
4) Make the delivery at 3 mph.

Have you ever read Canticle for Leibowitz?
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Grab your Rosary coat and hit the road...
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YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period.
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Samaratin's Purse Supplies Venezuela with Farm Animals too??

In Venezuela, a girl who received a winter hat, gloves and a scarf in her box exclaimed, “How did God know I would need these? I am moving to the mountains where it snows!”
[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]
[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]


[link to www.duewest.org]



The same company Samaratans Purse, who gives goats and livestock to villages, had the volunteer who got sick.

[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]



I believe this child was given milk from an infected goat perhaps...just like the sperm of males, milk can contain the virus.

Thread: Meet Ebola PATIENT ZERO -- it killed him, his mom, his sister and his grandmother

Worldwide, goat milk is the most highly consumed form of milk and, amidst the varying dairy goat types; Nigerian Dwarf goat milk is increasingly popular.

[link to www.betterhensandgardens.com]

Sponsoring animals and livestock for African villages could be contaminated as well.

[link to www.samaritanspurse.org]
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...Is Samaritans Purse, the base cause of these outbreaks, are their volunteers the common agent of infection? Have they done more harm than good by being in contact with so many patients, unknowingly spreading this outbreak?

What is the oversight for those with naive good intentions but who's very actions are the virus link to spread?
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I keep reading that the death rate is around 50% give or take. I think this may be wrong. If you look at the current reported numbers, the death/infected, you get 50%. The problem is that the dead today were infected weeks ago, and the infected today will not die for another couple of weeks. It seems that you need to take the death number today divided by the infected number 2 weeks ago.
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Everything I have been reading has stated that this current Ebola strain is the Zaire strain. I just found this article from back in April that states it is a new strain:

[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu]

If this is a new strain, then that may explain why they can't contain it.
 Quoting: Mr. Smith1


I've read there are 250 mutations that have happened on this strain.

I don't think it's anything I'll understand. The idea of a cell having an outside coating, reeks of Monsanto germination methods.
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You can get Ebola and not show symptoms.


There are five identified subspecies of Ebolavirus. Four of the five have caused disease in humans:
Ebola virus (Zaire ebolavirus);
Sudan virus (Sudan ebolavirus);
Taï Forest virus (Taï Forest ebolavirus, formerly Côte d’Ivoire ebolavirus);
and Bundibugyo virus (Bundibugyo ebolavirus)

The fifth, Reston virus (Reston ebolavirus), has caused disease in nonhuman primates, but not in humans.

The natural reservoir host of ebolaviruses remains unknown. However, on the basis of available evidence and the nature of similar viruses, researchers believe that the virus is zoonotic (animal-borne) with bats being the most likely reservoir. Four of the five subtypes occur in an animal host native to Africa.

A host of similar species is probably associated with Reston virus, which was isolated from infected cynomolgous monkeys imported to the United States and Italy from the Philippines. Several workers in the Philippines and in US holding facility outbreaks became infected with the virus, but did not become ill.


[link to www.cdc.gov]
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GLP