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Vic-chick13  User ID: 54926800  Canada10/23/2014 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: FAMILY MEMBER IN MEDICAL PROFESSION PLACED ON EMERGENCY DUTY Quoting: Revbo™ I do not want to say too much, because this family member asked for complete anonymity. Quoting: Dildeaux We live in the western part of the US. This family member is a physician with additional duties at the teaching hospital where he is employed. Earlier today he was identified as "Essential Support" whatever that means. With this ES moniker comes significant additional duties over and above patient care, administration activities, responsibility for residents in training, etc. This family member has been required to remain at his facility 24/7, with no leave for trips home, for family and the like. The facility operates under a standard Threat Level matrix used by many key facilities deemed to be of high importance to local/regional/national healthcare. The three level matrix has been moved to Level Three, hence my family members required commitment. No phone calls out, no trips outside the facility. Kind of like lock down. The facility even went so far as to preemptively release a statement to an unsuspecting press stating all hospital operations are moving forward normally, which seems very suspect. With terrorism, Ebola and solar activity occurring all around us, this may be the final puzzle piece to fit neatly in order to derive a clear overall picture as to what the hell is going on in our country/world right now. Please add any intel you may have encountered since 6 am PT today. It could be vital. There's the other shoe. |
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| Klasikatica User ID: 52708957 United States10/23/2014 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | monotreme Quoting: NawtyBits "These are children who had a normal course of illness...and had a clinical recovery, and both of these children became ill in a day or two," Dr Sprecher continued. "They came back and were found to be febrile and [PCR-]positive again. Both children had some neurologic signs. The feeling amongst the virologists is...the virus gets into some parts of the body with immunologic protection, like the central nervous system. The immune response clears the virus from the periphery, the patient has a clinical recovery, while the viral infection progresses in the [central nervous system] and eventually returns and reemerges as a renewed positivity. At least one of the children became negative again." Hello CDC, are you reading this? That has the potential to change everything we assume now about negative tests after being treated for Ebola. Bad thing is, who knows what it could be doing to the Nervous system. We've had reports of people in the final stages becoming irrational and almost zombie like. That provides us with it's definitely hitting the Brain and Nervous system. BUT... What if this thing is mutating to make itself communicable but not detectable? In the nervous system, it comes out for a bit, then goes back in. The person is positive, then negative, positive again spreads it, then negative again, then positive again spreads it some more and then the person dies? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64089349 United States10/23/2014 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad thing is, who knows what it could be doing to the Nervous system. We've had reports of people in the final stages becoming irrational and almost zombie like. That provides us with it's definitely hitting the Brain and Nervous system. Quoting: Klasikatica BUT... What if this thing is mutating to make itself communicable but not detectable? In the nervous system, it comes out for a bit, then goes back in. The person is positive, then negative, positive again spreads it, then negative again, then positive again spreads it some more and then the person dies? Sounds like that would take a spinal tap to find. If the virus is playing hide and seek, there is no way to combat it. |
| NawtyBits User ID: 64397213 United States10/23/2014 12:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the nervous system, it comes out for a bit, then goes back in. The person is positive, then negative, positive again spreads it, then negative again, then positive again spreads it some more and then the person dies? Quoting: Klasikatica Lyme disease does this. It is a very insidious disease. Last Edited by NawtyBits on 10/23/2014 12:56 PM WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
| Revbo™ User ID: 25353204 United States10/23/2014 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | monotreme Quoting: NawtyBits "These are children who had a normal course of illness...and had a clinical recovery, and both of these children became ill in a day or two," Dr Sprecher continued. "They came back and were found to be febrile and [PCR-]positive again. Both children had some neurologic signs. The feeling amongst the virologists is...the virus gets into some parts of the body with immunologic protection, like the central nervous system. The immune response clears the virus from the periphery, the patient has a clinical recovery, while the viral infection progresses in the [central nervous system] and eventually returns and reemerges as a renewed positivity. At least one of the children became negative again." Hello CDC, are you reading this? That has the potential to change everything we assume now about negative tests after being treated for Ebola. Bad thing is, who knows what it could be doing to the Nervous system. We've had reports of people in the final stages becoming irrational and almost zombie like. That provides us with it's definitely hitting the Brain and Nervous system. BUT... What if this thing is mutating to make itself communicable but not detectable? In the nervous system, it comes out for a bit, then goes back in. The person is positive, then negative, positive again spreads it, then negative again, then positive again spreads it some more and then the person dies? Isn't that what herpes does? Live in the nervous system and break out every now and then? I don't know much about virology, but could Ebola have met up with a bad case of genital herpes and developed the same ability? I can just see people five years from now: "Cant leave the house today. My Ebola is acting up." John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
| NawtyBits User ID: 64397213 United States10/23/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jim oliveros Rabies Vaccine Protects Nonhuman Primates Against Deadly Ebola Virus [link to www.niaid.nih.gov] [snip] Researchers from NIAID and Thomas Jefferson University, in Philadelphia, developed a vaccine based on the established rabies virus vaccine that, when tested in mice, proved safe and provided protection against both rabies and Ebola infection. As the next step to that success, the researchers tested three different types of the novel rabies/Ebola vaccine in nonhuman primates to determine their protective effect. In their investigation, the results of which were published online May 30, 2013, the researchers tested a replication-competent rabies virus vaccine, a replication-deficient rabies virus vaccine, and a chemically inactivated rabies virus vaccine expressing Ebola glycoprotein. Fifteen rhesus macaques, divided into four groups, were immunized intramuscularly with one of the three vaccines or a control vaccine. All of the animals were followed for both rabies and Ebola-specific immune responses. After 42 days, all of the nonhuman primates were transferred to NIAID’s biosafety level-4 facility at Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Hamilton, Montana, for challenge with the Ebola virus. Results and Significance All three vaccines produced potent immune responses against both rabies and Ebola. In terms of protection, the live replication-competent vaccines provided 100 percent protection following challenge with the Ebola virus. The replication-deficient and inactivated vaccines afforded 50 percent protection. According to the researchers, the protection of the immunized animals against Ebola virus infection was largely dependent on the quality of the B-cell driven immune response rather than the quantity of the response. These humoral immune responses as well as high glycoprotein-specific antibodies were particularly helpful in controlling Ebola virus infection after immunization, the researchers wrote. The results of these studies further support the concept that a successful Ebola vaccine needs to induce strong antibodies to the virus, according to the researchers. It also demonstrates that a dual-purpose vaccine to protect against rabies and Ebola virus is possible and, perhaps, more readily marketable. The research team is pursuing the inactivated rabies/Ebola vaccine for use in humans. The live vaccine is being developed for use in protecting wildlife at risk of Ebola virus infection in Africa, which could also serve to prevent transmission into the human population. Next Steps According to the researchers, advance testing among nonhuman primates involving higher levels of Ebola virus glycoprotein and, perhaps, an additional immunization dose could bring the protection rate to 100 percent. In addition, the research team is using the vaccine platform to develop a multivalent filovirus vaccine and other vaccine candidates against high consequence pathogens. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
| NawtyBits User ID: 64397213 United States10/23/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ht amish country This is dated 2010 and may not reflect the attributes of the currently spreading strain of Ebola Zaire. I do not know if the strain has mutated significantly in this regarded since the study was done. -AC ______ Journal of Applied Microbiology Volume 109, Issue 5 November 2010 Pages 1531–1539 The survival of filoviruses in liquids, on solid substrates and in a dynamic aerosol [link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com] Abstract Aims:  Filoviruses are associated with high morbidity and lethality rates in humans, are capable of human-to-human transmission, via infected material such as blood, and are believed to have low infectious doses for humans. Filoviruses are able to infect via the respiratory route and are lethal at very low doses in experimental animal models, but there is minimal information on how well the filoviruses survive within aerosol particles. There is also little known about how well filoviruses survive in liquids or on solid surfaces which is important in management of patients or samples that have been exposed to filoviruses. Methods and Results:  Filoviruses were tested for their ability to survive in different liquids and on different solid substrates at different temperatures. The decay rates of filoviruses in a dynamic aerosol were also determined. Conclusions:  Our study has shown that Lake Victoria marburgvirus (MARV) and Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV) can survive for long periods in different liquid media and can also be recovered from plastic and glass surfaces at low temperatures for over 3 weeks. The decay rates of ZEBOV and Reston ebolavirus (REBOV) plus MARV within a dynamic aerosol were calculated. ZEBOV and MARV had similar decay rates, whilst REBOV showed significantly better survival within an aerosol. Significance and Impact of the Study:  Data on the survival of two ebolaviruses are presented for the first time. Extended data on the survival of MARV are presented. Data from this study extend the knowledge on the survival of filoviruses under different conditions and provide a basis with which to inform risk assessments and manage exposure to filoviruses. [snip] Excerpts: Survival of EBOV and MARV dried onto solid substrates over 14 days An initial recovery experiment showed that no virus could be recovered from any substrate stored at room temperature (results not shown). All results reported are for +4°C. Neither MARV nor ZEBOV could be recovered from metal substrate at any time. [snip] Inactivation rates of MARV, ZEBOV and REBOV within an aerosol All three filoviruses under investigation could be detected after 90 min in a dynamic aerosol. [snip] From the total decay rates, the theoretical decay (as a percentage of original titre) over time was calculated (Fig. 5). The time taken for 50% of the initial virus concentration to decay (i.e. the half-life of the virus) is 14, 15 and 24 min for MARV, ZEBOV and REBOV, respectively. The time for 99% of the initial virus concentration to decay was estimated as 93 min for MARV, 104 min for ZEBOV and 162 min for REBOV. Comment: Very sciency read, obviously. But worth it. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
| NawtyBits User ID: 64397213 United States10/23/2014 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nola mnr Phoenix Air medical evac plane files flight plan to Dakar, Senegal N163PA This is where he went. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
| NawtyBits User ID: 64397213 United States10/23/2014 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | German clinic forced to scrap two machines worth £1m because Ebola patient vomited on them Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] A German hospital is counting the cost of treating a single Ebola patient after being forced to write off £1million worth of equipment after a man infected with the virus vomited on it. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
| NawtyBits User ID: 64397213 United States10/23/2014 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More people hospitalized in Turkey, suspected having Ebola [link to en.trend.az] Three people suspected Ebola were hospitalized in the Turkish provinces of Izmir, Kahraman Marash and Konya, the Anadolu Turkish news agency said Oct.22. One of the hospitalized is a Turkish student who studies in Somalia and returned to his homeland, and the rest returned from the Hajj in Saudi Arabia. Thus, the number of hospitalized suspected Ebola in Turkey reached five people, four of whom are persons returned from the Hajj. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
| NawtyBits User ID: 64397213 United States10/23/2014 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm done for a bit. Need to get away from computer and do some real life shit. There should be enough there to keep you busy for a while. ;-) There will be a test. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
| frostback User ID: 2066259 Canada10/23/2014 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm done for a bit. Need to get away from computer and do some real life shit. Quoting: NawtyBits There should be enough there to keep you busy for a while. ;-) There will be a test. LOL, I predict a negative on the test “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity” ― Sun-Tzu, A Arte da Guerra |
| Cheyenne User ID: 5100994 United States10/23/2014 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Echoing the warnings given by others, Dr. Jahrling believes that this strain of Ebola is not only more deadly than other strains but also mutating at an alarming rate. More of the virus is infecting patients, and it appears to be advancing and spreading more rapidly than usual. [link to www.naturalnews.com] 100% Natural Unvaxxed Human Being |
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| Cheyenne User ID: 5100994 United States10/23/2014 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “I’ll Come To Your Place When SHTF” – No You Won’t I tried to persuade you to prepare for what’s coming and, in the process, revealed that to you that I’m preparing. You realized that I have food, guns, etc., and ended up saying, half kidding but half serious, “I’ll come to your place when SHTF.” [link to www.shtfplan.com] 100% Natural Unvaxxed Human Being |
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| Cheyenne User ID: 5100994 United States10/23/2014 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A caller to Gucciardi claims Ebola patients are being "disappeared" in US hospitals [link to www.youtube.com] Has fat guy from Texas content. 100% Natural Unvaxxed Human Being |
| frostback User ID: 2066259 Canada10/23/2014 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legendary virologist Dr. Jahrling warns today's Ebola strain appears to be far more infectious than any previous Ebola Quoting: Cheyenne Echoing the warnings given by others, Dr. Jahrling believes that this strain of Ebola is not only more deadly than other strains but also mutating at an alarming rate. More of the virus is infecting patients, and it appears to be advancing and spreading more rapidly than usual. [link to www.naturalnews.com] Snippet : "We are using tests now that weren't [used] in the past, but there seems to be a belief that the virus load is higher in these patients [today] than what we have seen before," stated Dr. Jahrling to Vox. "If true, that's a very different bug." "I have a field team in Monrovia," he said. "They are running [tests]. They are telling me that viral loads are coming up very quickly and really high, higher than they are used to seeing." Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com] When this guy talks we should listen ! “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity” ― Sun-Tzu, A Arte da Guerra |
| frostback User ID: 2066259 Canada10/23/2014 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A caller to Gucciardi claims Ebola patients are being "disappeared" in US hospitals Quoting: Cheyenne [link to www.youtube.com] Has fat guy from Texas content. This is scary interesting too ! I have been looking around for some way to verify no luck “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity” ― Sun-Tzu, A Arte da Guerra |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5100994 United States10/23/2014 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A caller to Gucciardi claims Ebola patients are being "disappeared" in US hospitals Quoting: Cheyenne [link to www.youtube.com] Has fat guy from Texas content. This is scary interesting too ! I have been looking around for some way to verify no luck Right - I believe the preponderance of evidence is there are several real Ebola cases per large city in the US. Interesting that one website that put up a story about DHS deliberately seeding the US with Ebola patients went down - after only two views of the page in question. Took them hours to get the site back up. [link to www.theeventchronicle.com] |
| Cheyenne User ID: 5100994 United States10/23/2014 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^^An aside to this article about a website being taken down. Several years ago I was taking a course in network operations - lots of military people from all services, except for the Marines. We had a slick lawyer from Cybercommand come in. I posed a question to him and the rest of the students: Imagine you were in the military during the Nixon presidency. We know he had an enemies list. Imagine the Internet also existed at that time. You were given orders to take down a certain website by a couple of bloggers called Woodward and Bernstein. Something about a place called Watergate. Would you take down that website? That was my question to the troops. About a third said they would do it, orders were orders. A third looked confused, and the remaining third was "Hell no, we won't go!" The Major lawyer tap-danced and looked real uncomfortable - like this very issue had gone across his desk for a legal opinion. I asked this question as I saw what was being taught to be used against our enemies in the AOR could very easily be used against the truth here in the States - and I wanted these enlisted and commissioned personnel start thinking NOW how they would deal with illegitimate orders. Last Edited by Cheyenne on 10/23/2014 02:09 PM 100% Natural Unvaxxed Human Being |
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| {Epona} User ID: 63523755  United Kingdom10/23/2014 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Medics wearing protective clothing arrived with elderly patient Patients at University Hospital Lewisham tried to flee the casualty unit She was kept in the ambulance for an hour before being taken for tests Woman has since been deemed low risk and released to await test results Patients tried to flee a London hospital screaming 'Ebola' when medics wearing biohazard suits brought in an elderly woman for emergency treatment. Patients at University Hospital Lewisham evacuated the casualty unit, as the woman was kept outside in an ambulance. She was kept in the ambulance for an hour before finally being taken by crew in protective clothing for tests, it has been reported. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] INTJ women - 0.8% of the population Rules, limitations and traditions are anathema to the INTJ personality type - everything should be open to questioning and reevaluation, and if they see a way, INTJs will often act unilaterally to enact their technically superior, sometimes insensitive, and almost always unorthodox methods and ideas. |
| {Epona} User ID: 63523755 United Kingdom10/23/2014 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK family 'stockpiles food and gas' in case of Ebola A family of six takes the threat of a "handful of cases" of Ebola in the UK so seriously they have stockpiled a year's worth of supplies should the worst happen. [link to www.itv.com] Comment: And now (if genuine and not just an MSM attempt to make preppers look stupid) everyone in the country knows they're preppers…  Last Edited by Ibayne on 10/23/2014 02:21 PM INTJ women - 0.8% of the population Rules, limitations and traditions are anathema to the INTJ personality type - everything should be open to questioning and reevaluation, and if they see a way, INTJs will often act unilaterally to enact their technically superior, sometimes insensitive, and almost always unorthodox methods and ideas. |
| SomePunk User ID: 62655827 Belgium10/23/2014 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Patients tried to flee in panic shouting ‘Ebola’ when medics in Biohazard suits brought elderly woman into London hospital to be tested for the disease Quoting: {Epona} Medics wearing protective clothing arrived with elderly patient Patients at University Hospital Lewisham tried to flee the casualty unit She was kept in the ambulance for an hour before being taken for tests Woman has since been deemed low risk and released to await test results Patients tried to flee a London hospital screaming 'Ebola' when medics wearing biohazard suits brought in an elderly woman for emergency treatment. Patients at University Hospital Lewisham evacuated the casualty unit, as the woman was kept outside in an ambulance. She was kept in the ambulance for an hour before finally being taken by crew in protective clothing for tests, it has been reported. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 51689179 United States10/23/2014 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting read from Abel Danger I thought some of you would appreciate: [link to www.abeldanger.net] Snip: If you’ve been following this subject of vaccines, then you will know that the truly mad visions and projects are those of the elite and the think tank-funded ‘futurists’. Melissa Melton from Truthstream Media explains: “Questions like what happens if a mosquito bites an infected person, then flies off and bites someone else. Can Ebola spread then? Bill Gates certainly seemed to think so when he was funding research into mosquitoes as vaccine deployment systems.” Conversely, concerns that the virus could be used by as biological weapon are warranted, considering the depth and pedigree of bioweapons programs, particularly those ‘top secret’ military lab facilities in, or run by the US, which the US is still very reluctant to disclose. Is the African Ebola the spillover, either accidentally or intentionally, into Europe and the US – from a bioweapons lab? |
| {Epona} User ID: 63523755 United Kingdom10/23/2014 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ebola outbreak: Australia has been asked to help more, says Tony Abbott Australian health workers have not been sent to west Africa pending an ‘iron-clad’ agreement on evacuating them if infected Australia’s allies have asked for more help in the fight against the Ebola outbreak, Tony Abbott has said. The prime minister said requests from the US, UK and Sierra Leone would be “carefully” considered. The prime minister told MPs he discussed the response to the Ebola outbreak with Barack Obama during a telephone call on Wednesday and that Australia had been asked to help more. “Yes, partners and allies would like us to do more,” Abbott told parliament. [link to www.theguardian.com] INTJ women - 0.8% of the population Rules, limitations and traditions are anathema to the INTJ personality type - everything should be open to questioning and reevaluation, and if they see a way, INTJs will often act unilaterally to enact their technically superior, sometimes insensitive, and almost always unorthodox methods and ideas. |
