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I don't know what Poro and Sande activities are, but they are banned to stop the spread of Ebola, and people are ignoring the ban according to Front Page Africa.
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Oh I figured it out. It's 'poro and sande practices' and they are too gruesome to discuss. It pains me to even imagine it.
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They're "secret" societies for men and women respectively. Nothing gruesome about them.
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Ebola outbreak: Liberia opens new cemetery

Liberian officials say the new site will allow victims to be buried in a safe and dignified way

Liberia has opened a new national cemetery to provide safe burial sites for victims of the Ebola outbreak.

A Liberian official said the 50-acre site in Monrovia, half of which is ready to use, will enable "dignified" burials instead of cremations.

Meanwhile, the World Health Organization says the number of people infected by Ebola in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea has now passed 20,000.

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Nikkei takes negative turn on Ebola news

Stocks turned lower Monday, dragged down by concern over Ebola after news that a Japanese man was being tested for the deadly disease.

The Nikkei 225 average lost 89.12 points to end at 17,729.84. On Friday, the key market gauge ended up 10.21 points.

The Topix slipped 2.83 points to 1,424.67 after rising 6.24 points Friday.

[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
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Is it the same man from November 7th?

[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
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I think it's a new one
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It's an older video but it really breaks down the facts, it is after the holiday's is the truth about Ebola about to surface? Remember the WHO & the CDC both stated if left unchecked, they expected close to 1.4 Million dead by the end of January 2015, we are one month away.

I hope you find this video and his channel as informative as I did.
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Ebola in the UK: Britain likely to face more cases of deadly virus but is 'well prepared', says Chief Medical Officer

The UK is likely to be faced with a handful of Ebola cases in the coming months, but the country is “well prepared”, the chief medical officer has urged.

Dame Sally Davies' reassurances come after an NHS worker who volunteered in Sierra Leone became the first person to be diagnosed with the virus in the UK on Monday night.

More the 7,000 have people have died of the deadly virus following the start outbreak in late 2013 in Guinea. The majority of the fatalities have been in the West African nations of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The nurse who tested positive for &#8234;#&#8206;Ebola&#8236; in Scotland on Monday was working at the Kerry Town treatment centre in &#8234;#&#8206;SierraLeone&#8236;.
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It's an older video but it really breaks down the facts, it is after the holiday's is the truth about Ebola about to surface? Remember the WHO & the CDC both stated if left unchecked, they expected close to 1.4 Million dead by the end of January 2015, we are one month away.

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The 1.4M dead was worst-case scenario, if little-to-no action was taken.

It will be much less than that now.
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I would comment about the confirmed case in Glasgow now being transferred to London's Royal Free hospital, but this thread's title is for some reason limited to 'West Africa and the USA', so I won't bother.
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US Ebola czar: Fight against deadly disease reaching 'pivot point,' but more domestic cases expected

[link to www.foxnews.com]

The United States’ months-long effort to stop the deadly Ebola outbreak is reaching a “pivot point,” but Americans should expect more domestic cases, White House Ebola czar Ron Klain said Sunday.

“We will see (cases) from time to time,” Klain told CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “There’s still work to be done in Sierra Leone and Guinea. But we’re nearing a pivot point.”
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The nurse who tested positive for &#8234;#&#8206;Ebola&#8236; in Scotland on Monday was working at the Kerry Town treatment centre in &#8234;#&#8206;SierraLeone&#8236;.
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Alright, so usually when a virus is mutating it goes through trade offs. Increased virulence frequently comes with decreased lethality. Perhaps the reason why the people that get to first world countries get better is because it is a weakened lethality and if better treatment is received it is mostly treatable.

The ones that died in first world countries usually were far along before they got moved. Is it possible that the damage was too severe already?

Okay so here is a question, can the flu and Ebola exchange genetic information?

Also... holy crap one in Scotland when I went to work and 5 possible in NY when I get home... Flu is getting bad, I am so glad that school is not in session.
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I would comment about the confirmed case in Glasgow now being transferred to London's Royal Free hospital, but this thread's title is for some reason limited to 'West Africa and the USA', so I won't bother.
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You're new here aren't you. ;-)

Comment away.

There is a reason the subject is what it is, and has little to do with the content on some days....
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I would comment about the confirmed case in Glasgow now being transferred to London's Royal Free hospital, but this thread's title is for some reason limited to 'West Africa and the USA', so I won't bother.
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Distant Echo, if you feel you have something to add, comment away. The title is reflecting the fact that, until yesterday, only WA and USA had confirmed cases of Ebola. All comments and opinions are welcome here.

Just try to keep the woo-woo to a minimum tounge

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'I'd be fine': Jennifer Lawrence says she'd survive Ebola virus in new public service announcement with Hunger Games co-stars

Jennifer Lawrence and her castmates from The Hunger Games films teamed up for a new public service announcement released on Monday about the West African ebola virus epidemic.

The 24-year-old actress highlighted the need for improved medical services in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone that have been hardest hit by the deadly disease.

The nearly two-minute video opened with a montage of video clips from news outlets such as CNN and Fox reporting melodramatically about the outbreak.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Comment: Well, I dunno about the rest of the Western World, but if the UK had 20,000 cases of Ebola, the NHS would buckle and collapse under the strain…
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Morning H1 hf
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And here it comes, now the Xmas shopping is over and done with…

24 hours, but they knew the Scottish nurse had Ebola within hours…?

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I'll simply say that this is what happens when you send in amateurs.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]

- From 9th December:

"Save the Children do not have the expertise,” said Palo Conteh, head of Sierre Leone’s Ebola Response Centre, who criticised the charity’s lack of experience and the decision to allow it to run the operation.
“That is something we must all accept, and say the Brits got it wrong with Kerry Town, handling over the facility to Save the Children who have never run an Ebola facility,” Mr Conteh told a news conference."

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"When we were asked to take on the centre, we made it absolutely clear that this was new business for us. We have never run frontline health services at this scale,” Mr Von Bertele said.

He said the charity has been forced to recruit and train some 250 local staff, and more from around the world, to help to run the centre."

So basically Save The Children were only running that operation because everyone else had the intelligence to say No.

Keep an eye out for more cases among those working with that charity there.

Let's hope those handling her in the UK are a bit more clued up, because from what I've read about the volunteering of workers into Africa, it sounds like they are treating it like some fucking gap-year hippy travelling excuse to go and look at poor people.

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Morning H1 hf
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Morning Epona!flowerflower
Looks like things are moving again. Can't find any back up on 5 FDNY cases though...
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I'll simply say that this is what happens when you send in amateurs.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]

- From 9th December:

"Save the Children do not have the expertise,” said Palo Conteh, head of Sierre Leone’s Ebola Response Centre, who criticised the charity’s lack of experience and the decision to allow it to run the operation.
“That is something we must all accept, and say the Brits got it wrong with Kerry Town, handling over the facility to Save the Children who have never run an Ebola facility,” Mr Conteh told a news conference."

...

"When we were asked to take on the centre, we made it absolutely clear that this was new business for us. We have never run frontline health services at this scale,” Mr Von Bertele said.

He said the charity has been forced to recruit and train some 250 local staff, and more from around the world, to help to run the centre."

So basically Save The Children were only running that operation because everyone else had the intelligence to say No.

Keep an eye out for more cases among those working with that charity there.

Let's hope those handling her in the UK are a bit more clued up, because from what I've read about the volunteering of workers into Africa, it sounds like they are treating it like some fucking gap-year hippy travelling excuse to go and look at poor people.
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Their brains seem to stop functioning as soon as their month of assuaging their "Western Guilt" is up.

Here's an article about a Scottish Doctor's experience at the Kerry town facility:

Scots Ebola doctor tells of ‘harrowing’ experience

[link to m.scotsman.com]
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From the article:

The tests are thought to be precautionary - more than 100 patients have tested negative in similar circumstances over the last few months.


Well they kept that quiet, didn't they?
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From the article:

The tests are thought to be precautionary - more than 100 patients have tested negative in similar circumstances over the last few months.


Well they kept that quiet, didn't they?
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Don't they always!
Amazing how Glasow patient went to hospital at 07h50 am and test results were released to media within 12 hours yet the latest two patients being tested will take at least 24 hours...
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Morning H1 hf
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Morning Epona!flowerflower
Looks like things are moving again. Can't find any back up on 5 FDNY cases though...
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Very early morning greetings to you both. Lots of info to get through.
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And here it comes, now the Xmas shopping is over and done with…

24 hours, but they knew the Scottish nurse had Ebola within hours…?
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I suspect it might have been quiet if the Jan sales where looking like pulling the retailers from the toilet.. As always over the last few years we'll see the "the sales figure are bad becuase of ________" (Snow, Ice, Flood, leaves, Piggy Flu) and I suspect now, "Ebola"

Perhaps I am being too cynical...
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And here it comes, now the Xmas shopping is over and done with…

24 hours, but they knew the Scottish nurse had Ebola within hours…?
 Quoting: {Epona}


I suspect it might have been quiet if the Jan sales where looking like pulling the retailers from the toilet.. As always over the last few years we'll see the "the sales figure are bad becuase of ________" (Snow, Ice, Flood, leaves, Piggy Flu) and I suspect now, "Ebola"

Perhaps I am being too cynical...
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No, you sound spot on to me...
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meh...
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And here it comes, now the Xmas shopping is over and done with…

24 hours, but they knew the Scottish nurse had Ebola within hours…?
 Quoting: {Epona}


I suspect it might have been quiet if the Jan sales where looking like pulling the retailers from the toilet.. As always over the last few years we'll see the "the sales figure are bad becuase of ________" (Snow, Ice, Flood, leaves, Piggy Flu) and I suspect now, "Ebola"

Perhaps I am being too cynical...
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No, you sound spot on to me...
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+1 sounds about right. Nothing to do with the fact the majority of people have less "spare cash" these days
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couple of thoughts:

1. Flu vaccine didn't work. Flu deaths are higher.

what if the higher deaths aren't flu?

It wouldn't be the first time our government tinkered with numbers to reflect whatever the narrative they want is. Unemployment numbers mean anything?

2. News is breaking free again. Is this intentional or accidental leaking of the news?

3. I know of a hospital in my area, nothing I can link, just word of mouth that the isolation unit there has people in it. Officially, the people who work there have been told it's flu. Both are non-medical people that work in technical/maintenance fields at that hospital. Neither of them seem real convinced. But since they need their jobs and the area is locked down pretty tight, haven't questioned much. Both say their badge that usually opens everything won't open that floor.

4.Scotland. Wow. They were not on my radar for potential places to crop up. Good Luck UK, I hope your government and health care are better than ours.
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Morning H1 hf
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Morning Epona!flowerflower
Looks like things are moving again. Can't find any back up on 5 FDNY cases though...
 Quoting: H1


Very early morning greetings to you both. Lots of info to get through.
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Early bird Aspamce ;) yes lots of info. I'm kinda missing the all is well in the world feeling I had over Christmas already :P

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couple of thoughts:

1. Flu vaccine didn't work. Flu deaths are higher.

what if the higher deaths aren't flu?

It wouldn't be the first time our government tinkered with numbers to reflect whatever the narrative they want is. Unemployment numbers mean anything?

2. News is breaking free again. Is this intentional or accidental leaking of the news?

3. I know of a hospital in my area, nothing I can link, just word of mouth that the isolation unit there has people in it. Officially, the people who work there have been told it's flu. Both are non-medical people that work in technical/maintenance fields at that hospital. Neither of them seem real convinced. But since they need their jobs and the area is locked down pretty tight, haven't questioned much. Both say their badge that usually opens everything won't open that floor.

4.Scotland. Wow. They were not on my radar for potential places to crop up. Good Luck UK, I hope your government and health care are better than ours.
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The flu strain seems particularly nasty this year, if my husband and kids are anything to go by, so maybe it is really accountable for some of the extra deaths.

And no, our gov and healthcare is no better than yours :(
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The nurse who tested positive for &#8234;#&#8206;Ebola&#8236; in Scotland on Monday was working at the Kerry Town treatment centre in &#8234;#&#8206;SierraLeone&#8236;.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Alright, so usually when a virus is mutating it goes through trade offs. Increased virulence frequently comes with decreased lethality. Perhaps the reason why the people that get to first world countries get better is because it is a weakened lethality and if better treatment is received it is mostly treatable.

The ones that died in first world countries usually were far along before they got moved. Is it possible that the damage was too severe already?

Okay so here is a question, can the flu and Ebola exchange genetic information?

Also... holy crap one in Scotland when I went to work and 5 possible in NY when I get home... Flu is getting bad, I am so glad that school is not in session.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


I think one of your professors could answer your question on a much more informed basis than guesswork whether or not Influenza and Ebola can exchange genetic information. There has been some discussion of that in this thread but the answer lies with people who study it. At this point in your academic career you probably know more about it than some of the rest of us.

Dr. Salia died primarily because his first test for Ebola came back negative when in fact he was already infected. By the time he got on an airplane to come to the US for treatment he was too weak to walk. He died shortly thereafter. We know the saga of Duncan. The others who were flown back to the US for treatment appeared to have been in the early stages and were able to walk to and from the plane, some of them waving. The doc in NYC we know was partying the night before he came down hard with symptoms.

Vinsen I believe holds the record of shortest timeline from diagnosis with Ebola to absence of Ebola in just seven days but she contracted Ebola in the US.

I don't know if this is indicative of weakened lethality or progression of treatment available in the US. But...its a damned good question as are your others.

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On a side note, our flu epidemic went home for the holidays [local university] and those in Bloomington primarily in the service industries, read restaurants and bars, are coming down with the flu. In my area, no one is sick. Here's hoping you and your little one stay well during this flu season.





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