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No one wanted Jerusalem or the land before the Jews brought it back to Life.

 
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No one wanted or lived in the area of Israel before God brought back the Jews to their home land, there seemed to be a curse on the Land . This is what Mark Twain said about this Land. Mark Twain visited Israel in 1867, and published his impressions in Innocents Abroad. He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

He was amazed by the smallness of the city of Jerusalem:

“A fast walker could go outside the walls of Jerusalem and walk entirely around the city in an hour. I do not know how else to make one understand how small it is.”
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USA sends them 30 billion plus every year, not sure we can give credit to God or the Jews.
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Yes, they made the desert bloom. I noticed the difference when I visited there between the area populated by Arabs and those that the Jews inhabited.
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moose limbs are the armies of the a/c
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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USA sends them 30 billion plus every year, not sure we can give credit to God or the Jews.
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G-d makes us do that. He told me on the phone just now.

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I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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this whole jewish/christian thing is a ridiculous, self-glorifying farce.
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Amos 9:11-15, but especially verse 14, "In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: That they may possess the remnant of Edom ... Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt." [Israel will be very, very prosperous]

[vs 14] "And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, [literally reads, 'And I will bring back the exiles of my people Israel'] and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them."

[vs 15] "And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."
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I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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Excuse me?

Forced to emigrate?

What are you talking about?

Those that left, left by choice on promises made by the five nations that attacked Israel after they declared independence.

A large number chose to stay. One in five Israelies are Arabs.
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No one wanted or lived in the area of Israel before God brought back the Jews to their home land, there seemed to be a curse on the Land . This is what Mark Twain said about this Land. Mark Twain visited Israel in 1867, and published his impressions in Innocents Abroad. He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

He was amazed by the smallness of the city of Jerusalem:

“A fast walker could go outside the walls of Jerusalem and walk entirely around the city in an hour. I do not know how else to make one understand how small it is.”
 Quoting: rant


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Amos 9:11-15, but especially verse 14, "In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: That they may possess the remnant of Edom ... Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt." [Israel will be very, very prosperous]

[vs 14] "And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, [literally reads, 'And I will bring back the exiles of my people Israel'] and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them."

[vs 15] "And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."
 Quoting: rant


Ezekiel 16:17

You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.

Praise God!
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I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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Excuse me?

Forced to emigrate?

What are you talking about?

Those that left, left by choice on promises made by the five nations that attacked Israel after they declared independence.

A large number chose to stay. One in five Israelies are Arabs.
 Quoting: G. House


This ^^^ the invading arab nations told the arabs they could keep the money that the Jews paid for the land and then get the land back too. Many arabs thought it good deal and were devastated when the mighty arab armies lost to the tiny new country.

Isn't odd that after 70 years the so called palestinians are still refugees? The world fights a war and millions of refugees are created and all have settled elsewhere, all except this group of arabs who are much more valuable as refugees then they ever could be as settle and productive people.

BTW, Jordan allowed many to move to Jordan and what did they do? They instigated a coup to overthrow Jordan's government and monarchy...
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I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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Excuse me?

Forced to emigrate?

What are you talking about?

Those that left, left by choice on promises made by the five nations that attacked Israel after they declared independence.

A large number chose to stay. One in five Israelies are Arabs.
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Yes, forced to emigrate. Maybe not by physical force, but if someone tells you your land is no longer yours it implies that you should leave. Of the 1.2 million living in Palestine in 1946, only 156,000 chose to stay. I wouldn't say 10% is a 'large number'.
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And I like>>> no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God." They are there for good !!!!!!!Does not matter how much the Arabs kick and scream!!!! and try push them into the sea.
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And I like>>> no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God." They are there for good !!!!!!!Does not matter how much the Arabs kick and scream!!!! and try push them into the sea.
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I wonder how God feels about you hiding in Canada, when you're supposed to be busy turning Israel into the Garden of Eden.
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I just wish Israelis weren't so good at making everything worse and worse.
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And I like>>> no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God." They are there for good !!!!!!!Does not matter how much the Arabs kick and scream!!!! and try push them into the sea.
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I'm sorry, but an imaginary man on a cloud does not have any authority because he doesn't exist.
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When Byzantium Christians ruled the Holy Land...
they banned jews from Jerusalem.


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USA sends them 30 billion plus every year, not sure we can give credit to God or the Jews.
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We send billions to other places and they still suck. You make an extremely weak point.
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Yes, they made the desert bloom. I noticed the difference when I visited there between the area populated by Arabs and those that the Jews inhabited.
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Maybe because the Jews stole all the water?

This thread is utter bullshit. There are plenty of historical photos of a thriving Palestine existing before the first European Jew arrived. One star.
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Ezekiel 36:24, "For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of the countries and bring you into your own land". First comes the physical restoration, then the revival. "Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you and you shall be clean from all your filthiness and you idols, I will cleanse you a new heart, will I give you a new spirit, will I put within you, I will put my spirit within you, cause you to walk in my statutes and you shall keep my ordinances and do them".

So God says, "I will bring you back from your captivity, I will place you in the land, and then there will be a spiritual revival". Now this is a fantastic thing to be alive in this day to see this happen. To see the things that are going on in Israel. To see the building of the waste cities. To see all of the fruit that is being reaped because of the planting in Israel; all of these miraculous things happening in Israel.

It is the miracle of history, in fact, that the Jews have even survived in the human jungle over these years, since 70 A.D. for some 2,000 years, it's amazing they've even survived to be regathered. That's the miracle, really that's the miracle of anthropology. By reason of Israel's geographic position alone, it's a buffer state, and it's been kicked back and forth by many great powers throughout all of its history. It was exposed repeatedly to the influences that destroyed stronger nations than it ever was. And all the ancient tribes and the ancient kingdoms in that area have long-since disappeared. But Israel remains, and is pure as ever.
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I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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Excuse me?

Forced to emigrate?

What are you talking about?

Those that left, left by choice on promises made by the five nations that attacked Israel after they declared independence.

A large number chose to stay. One in five Israelies are Arabs.
 Quoting: G. House


Yes, forced to emigrate. Maybe not by physical force, but if someone tells you your land is no longer yours it implies that you should leave. Of the 1.2 million living in Palestine in 1946, only 156,000 chose to stay. I wouldn't say 10% is a 'large number'.
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Physical force was used. Irgun and Haganah. Jews exterminated entire Palestinian villages. The Nakba was a real event.
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this whole jewish/christian thing is a ridiculous, self-glorifying farce.
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sort of, yes, but/and whatever happened to separation of church and state, anyway?

Please Notice “Jews” arenot the “chosen”:

Proof Christians are the "chosen":
Rev. 17:14
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and CHOSEN, and faithful.

1 Peter 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9But ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, AN HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Christians: UR Chosen, Royal, Holy, Peculiar:
[link to www.youtube.com]

YOU ARE MARKED AS A CHOSEN VESSEL says THE LORD
Acts 9:15 :
[link to www.youtube.com]

Also

God did not say this to Israel, as Jews proclaim. As a matter of fact Israel wasnot even born yet when God spoke these words . . . not even a gleam in Abraham’s eye . . .
And Jews arenot the only seed of Abraham:
Genesis 16
King James Version (KJV)
2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the Lord hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.
16 And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
Genesis 21
King James Version (KJV)
13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
Genesis 25
King James Version (KJV)
25 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.
2 And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.
3 And Jokshan begat Sheba, and Dedan. And the sons of Dedan were Asshurim, and Letushim, and Leummim.
4 And the sons of Midian; Ephah, and Epher, and Hanoch, and Abidah, and Eldaah. All these were the children of Keturah.
Genesis 22
King James Version (KJV)
18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
And:
Genesis 17
King James Version (KJV)
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
Genesis 18
King James Version (KJV)
18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and ALL the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
Genesis 12:1-4
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12 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall ALL families of the earth be blessed.
4 So Abram departed, as the Lord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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The Jews did not bring it back to lfe. It was designed that way by the Rothchilds and Rockafellars in the 1940"s. They created the state and Egypt displaced the refugees and then refused to take them back hense creating the Gaza Strip and forever keeping the region in a state of instablity. The Illuminati Satanists are responsible. The Jews were just happy to get a place of their own. They were helped. They were just as willfully Ignorant as all the refugees in the Gaza.The Common Population the normal people had no Idea what was behind all of it. The higher ups never tell the " People" Whats going on now do they. Read a book. A real Book. To much history has been altered and Wikipedia is an Illuminati Company site for Propaganda. They Edit it all the time. Much I have read on that site is inaccurate and Biased.

Did you know that Encyclopedia Britannica is also owned by Rothchild. Did you know that. Founded and owned by Rothchild.
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No one wanted or lived in the area of Israel before God brought back the Jews to their home land, there seemed to be a curse on the Land . This is what Mark Twain said about this Land. Mark Twain visited Israel in 1867, and published his impressions in Innocents Abroad. He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

He was amazed by the smallness of the city of Jerusalem:

“A fast walker could go outside the walls of Jerusalem and walk entirely around the city in an hour. I do not know how else to make one understand how small it is.”
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9,000 Photographs – Israel from 1800's – with no trace of ‘displaced Palestinians’

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I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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Excuse me?

Forced to emigrate?

What are you talking about?

Those that left, left by choice on promises made by the five nations that attacked Israel after they declared independence.

A large number chose to stay. One in five Israelies are Arabs.
 Quoting: G. House


This ^^^ the invading arab nations told the arabs they could keep the money that the Jews paid for the land and then get the land back too. Many arabs thought it good deal and were devastated when the mighty arab armies lost to the tiny new country.

Isn't odd that after 70 years the so called palestinians are still refugees? The world fights a war and millions of refugees are created and all have settled elsewhere, all except this group of arabs who are much more valuable as refugees then they ever could be as settle and productive people.

BTW, Jordan allowed many to move to Jordan and what did they do? They instigated a coup to overthrow Jordan's government and monarchy...
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President Carter said only 7% of the land was legitimately purchased.
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There are a growing number of evangelical Christians who TODAY are claiming that God finished with the Jews and Israel (as a Nation) almost 2000 years ago after Jesus (the Jewish Messiah) was crucified. In fact, most of European Christians believe this now. It seems that support for Israel has diminished throughout the World, with most support only coming from American believers. In fact, even hatred for Israel has infiltrated most European churches.




The claim is that Israel has been completely replaced by the church and that all Old Testament promises for Israel are ONLY applicable to the church. Some even question whether the Jews of today really are Jews and claim that they are of the synagogue od satan.
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this whole jewish/christian thing is a ridiculous, self-glorifying farce.
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sort of, yes, but/and whatever happened to separation of church and state, anyway?

Please Notice “Jews” arenot the “chosen”:

Proof Christians are the "chosen":
Rev. 17:14
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and CHOSEN, and faithful.

1 Peter 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9But ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, AN HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Christians: UR Chosen, Royal, Holy, Peculiar:
[link to www.youtube.com]

YOU ARE MARKED AS A CHOSEN VESSEL says THE LORD
Acts 9:15 :
[link to www.youtube.com]

Also

God did not say this to Israel, as Jews proclaim. As a matter of fact Israel wasnot even born yet when God spoke these words . . . not even a gleam in Abraham’s eye . . .
And Jews arenot the only seed of Abraham:
Genesis 16
King James Version (KJV)
2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the Lord hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.
16 And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
Genesis 21
King James Version (KJV)
13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
Genesis 25
King James Version (KJV)
25 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.
2 And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.
3 And Jokshan begat Sheba, and Dedan. And the sons of Dedan were Asshurim, and Letushim, and Leummim.
4 And the sons of Midian; Ephah, and Epher, and Hanoch, and Abidah, and Eldaah. All these were the children of Keturah.
Genesis 22
King James Version (KJV)
18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
And:
Genesis 17
King James Version (KJV)
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
Genesis 18
King James Version (KJV)
18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and ALL the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
Genesis 12:1-4
King James Version (KJV)
12 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall ALL families of the earth be blessed.
4 So Abram departed, as the Lord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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Neither of you are chosen, just delusional.
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The Jews did not bring it back to lfe. It was designed that way by the Rothchilds and Rockafellars in the 1940"s. They created the state and Egypt displaced the refugees and then refused to take them back hense creating the Gaza Strip and forever keeping the region in a state of instablity. The Illuminati Satanists are responsible. The Jews were just happy to get a place of their own. They were helped. They were just as willfully Ignorant as all the refugees in the Gaza.The Common Population the normal people had no Idea what was behind all of it. The higher ups never tell the " People" Whats going on now do they. Read a book. A real Book. To much history has been altered and Wikipedia is an Illuminati Company site for Propaganda. They Edit it all the time. Much I have read on that site is inaccurate and Biased.

Did you know that Encyclopedia Britannica is also owned by Rothchild. Did you know that. Founded and owned by Rothchild.
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I agree, the Jewish people were just used to create instability, much like women were used to destabilize the family under the guise of 'feminism'.

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