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No one wanted Jerusalem or the land before the Jews brought it back to Life.

 
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Disgusting jewish propaganda.
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Some say that the current nation of Israel is a political mistake and that the leadership in Israel were all part of the Illuminati/freemason conspiracy. Firstly, is God in control or not? If Heaven is His throne and the Earth is His footstool (with Jerusalem as the place of His rest) then God will intervene – no such things as political mistakes if God has the ultimate control. So whether the masons were involved or not, GOD was involved! Anyway, why would God say that He would bring the Jews back to the Land if He knew that the Jews would cease to exist? Clearly God is telling us that THEY WOULD exist in the LAST DAYS
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I expect if we'd given the local Palestinians several billion dollars they would have done wonders with the desert etc. But it seems that was only given to the Jews. i wonder why?
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"To whom does the land of Israel belong to?

The answer is really very simple. God gave the land of Israel to Abraham (Genesis 17:8) and to his descendants through Isaac (Genesis 26:2-5) and Jacob (Genesis 28:1-4,13-14).

That means the land belongs to the descendants of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel. In other words, the land belongs to the children of Israel, referred to in the New Testament as the Jews (Romans 1:16).

Some immediately protest this claim by arguing that the Abrahamic Covenant has been abrogated either by the Cross or by the disobedience of the Jews. But the Bible clearly teaches that the Abrahamic Covenant is an everlasting one that is still in effect (Genesis 17:7; 1 Chronicles 16:17-18; Psalm 105:8-11; and Romans 9:4).
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"To whom does the land of Israel belong to?

The answer is really very simple. God gave the land of Israel to Abraham (Genesis 17:8) and to his descendants through Isaac (Genesis 26:2-5) and Jacob (Genesis 28:1-4,13-14).

That means the land belongs to the descendants of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel. In other words, the land belongs to the children of Israel, referred to in the New Testament as the Jews (Romans 1:16).

Some immediately protest this claim by arguing that the Abrahamic Covenant has been abrogated either by the Cross or by the disobedience of the Jews. But the Bible clearly teaches that the Abrahamic Covenant is an everlasting one that is still in effect (Genesis 17:7; 1 Chronicles 16:17-18; Psalm 105:8-11; and Romans 9:4).
 Quoting: rant


Again, saying an imaginary entity decreed that the land belongs to a particular group doesn't mean a thing because he is imaginary...
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Q: What's a quick way to tell Israelis from Palestinian miltants?
A: Israelis turn deserts into gardens, Palestinian militants turn gardens into deserts.

As shown by the September 2005 occupation of Gaza by the Palestinians, this is not a joke but a statement of fact. The Israeli settlers had built a number of greenhouses in which to raise food and other agricultural products. When the settlers were ordered to leave Gaza, some affluent but misguided Americans (mostly Jewish) raised several million dollars to buy the greenhouses and turn them over to the Palestinians. [I say "misguided" because, as proven here, giving anything of value to any Islamic militant is like presenting a baboon with a delicite glass or china plate; you can expect it to be broken for amusement or out of sheer malice within the hour.] Within hours of the Palestinians' occupation of Gaza, the greenhouses were RBP. It took the Palestinians but hours to turn the gardens they were given into barren and sterile deserts. Now, of course, terrorist Mahmoud Abbas will be whining that he needs money from the United Nations, Europe, and of course the United States because he is unable to feed his people.
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this whole jewish/christian thing is a ridiculous, self-glorifying farce.
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this whole I-know-it-all thing is a bigger farce, baby.
if mighty oaks are the king of the forest, beeches are surely its queen.
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Jews and fake Christian Jew-worshipers are the scum of the earth.
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True.

The ONLY reason it is important to any Muslims

is BECAUSE it is important to Jews.

If Jews weren't there, they wouldn't care.

Since they are there, it matters so very much...


It is only about hating the Jews.
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Amen the Arab trash ran in only to cause trouble.
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True.

The ONLY reason it is important to any Muslims

is BECAUSE it is important to Jews.

If Jews weren't there, they wouldn't care.

Since they are there, it matters so very much...


It is only about hating the Jews.
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Sort of. Muslims had a good relationship with Jews before they invaded Palestine and ethnically cleansed it. Not that I care for either.
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The Masons/Illuminati use Prophecy. Actually they invoke it to make shit happen.They also use it against believers so they can say SEE SEE SEE.

Its just like the Crazy Iranians. Everybody is afraid that if they got a nuke they would bring about the end times to evoke and bring forword their 12th Imman.

We all need to be very careful and to think critically of the things going on around us.

The Bible has been altered just like History.

Rothchild owns the Britannica Encyclopedia. Surprised...?

Who do you think owns Wikipedia...? Illuminati. Who's Illuminati...?

Bush. Clinton. Obama. Reagan. Rothchilds. Rockefellars. Bilderberg. Every Single major Corporation. All news Media. All movie Studio's. All record Labels. Nato. Imf. World Bank. Foreign Relations Council. London. Washington. Vatican City. Military Industrial Complex. I would run out of room naming it all off.

Go to UTUBE and watch any Documentary and you will see how deep the rabbit hole really goes.
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Please teach the Libtard Jewish Haters the truth...God gave it to the Jews.




I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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Excuse me?

Forced to emigrate?

What are you talking about?

Those that left, left by choice on promises made by the five nations that attacked Israel after they declared independence.

A large number chose to stay. One in five Israelies are Arabs.
 Quoting: G. House


This ^^^ the invading arab nations told the arabs they could keep the money that the Jews paid for the land and then get the land back too. Many arabs thought it good deal and were devastated when the mighty arab armies lost to the tiny new country.

Isn't odd that after 70 years the so called palestinians are still refugees? The world fights a war and millions of refugees are created and all have settled elsewhere, all except this group of arabs who are much more valuable as refugees then they ever could be as settle and productive people.

BTW, Jordan allowed many to move to Jordan and what did they do? They instigated a coup to overthrow Jordan's government and monarchy...
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True.

The ONLY reason it is important to any Muslims

is BECAUSE it is important to Jews.

If Jews weren't there, they wouldn't care.

Since they are there, it matters so very much...


It is only about hating the Jews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55971971


So if the international community decided that your home/town/state should be the property of a group of foreigners, you would be OK with that?
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True.

The ONLY reason it is important to any Muslims

is BECAUSE it is important to Jews.

If Jews weren't there, they wouldn't care.

Since they are there, it matters so very much...


It is only about hating the Jews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55971971


So if the international community decided that your home/town/state should be the property of a group of foreigners, you would be OK with that?
Anonymous Coward
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Please teach the Libtard Jewish Haters the truth...God gave it to the Jews.
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LOL. You seem more than a little confused. Your God is the London Jewish banking cartel? Makes sense.
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If the Arab/Muslims would put down their weapons

there would be no conflict.

If the Israelis/Jews would put down their weapons

there would be no Israel.



IT IS that simple.
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I'm guessing the 1.2 million non Jews who were living there in 1946 & forced to emigrate would beg to differ.
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Excuse me?

Forced to emigrate?

What are you talking about?

Those that left, left by choice on promises made by the five nations that attacked Israel after they declared independence.

A large number chose to stay. One in five Israelies are Arabs.
 Quoting: G. House


This ^^^ the invading arab nations told the arabs they could keep the money that the Jews paid for the land and then get the land back too. Many arabs thought it good deal and were devastated when the mighty arab armies lost to the tiny new country.

Isn't odd that after 70 years the so called palestinians are still refugees? The world fights a war and millions of refugees are created and all have settled elsewhere, all except this group of arabs who are much more valuable as refugees then they ever could be as settle and productive people.

BTW, Jordan allowed many to move to Jordan and what did they do? They instigated a coup to overthrow Jordan's government and monarchy...
 Quoting: davvi



You used to pretend to be objective, but now your true colors have bled through. Jews just can't help themselves, can they?
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"To whom does the land of Israel belong to?

The answer is really very simple. God gave the land of Israel to Abraham (Genesis 17:8) and to his descendants through Isaac (Genesis 26:2-5) and Jacob (Genesis 28:1-4,13-14).

That means the land belongs to the descendants of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel. In other words, the land belongs to the children of Israel, referred to in the New Testament as the Jews (Romans 1:16).

Some immediately protest this claim by arguing that the Abrahamic Covenant has been abrogated either by the Cross or by the disobedience of the Jews. But the Bible clearly teaches that the Abrahamic Covenant is an everlasting one that is still in effect (Genesis 17:7; 1 Chronicles 16:17-18; Psalm 105:8-11; and Romans 9:4).
 Quoting: rant


IF IF IF . . . they didn't violate the covenant.

Guess what? (Jeremiah 3:8)
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So if the international community decided that your home/town/state should be the property of a group of foreigners, you would be OK with that?
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That's simply not the way it was, and nothing I can say will persuade you otherwise if you are strictly unwilling to hear.
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Good post OP here are some more facts about the subject:

Unknown to most of the world population, the origin of the "Palestinian" Arabs' claim to the Holy Land spans a period of a meager 30 years - a drop in the bucket compared to the thousands of years of the region's rich history.

At the beginning of the 20th century, there were practically no Muslim Arabs in the Holy Land. By contrast, the Jews, despite 2000 years of persecution and forced conversions by various conquerors, have throughout most of history been the majority population there. In Jerusalem Jews were always the largest demographic group [1][2], except for periods when conquerors specifically threw them out and prevented them from returning.

When General Allenby, the commander of the British military forces, conquered Palestine in 1917/1918, only a few thousand Muslim Arabs resided in the Holy Land. Most of the Arabs were Christians, and most of the Muslims in the area either came from Turkey under the Ottoman Empire, or were the descendants of Jews and Christians who were forcefully converted to Islam by the Muslim conquerors. These Muslims were not of Arab origin.

It is important to note that estimates and censuses conducted by the Muslim conquerors were heavily biased to exaggerate the number of Muslims and to minimize the number of Jews and Christians. Therefore, the only reliable data is provided by non-Muslim neutral sources. Tourists and politicians, Arabs and non-Arabs alike, have documented their observations of the population in the Holy Land beginning more that a thousand years ago. Let's start at the early days and continue into the Ottoman period:

The historian James Parker wrote: "During the first century after the Arab conquest [670-740 CE], the caliph and governors of Syria and the Holy Land ruled entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the Bedouin in the earliest days, the only Arabs west of the Jordan were the garrisons."[3]

In year 985 the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained: "the mosque is empty of worshipers... The Jews constitute the majority of Jerusalem's population" (The entire city of Jerusalem had only one mosque?). [4]

In 1377, Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, wrote: "Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years... It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement".[5]

In 1695, the Dutch scholar, philologist and cartographer, Adriaan Reland, visited the Holy Land. He documented his visits to many locations. He writes: The names of settlements were mostly Hebrew, some Greek, and some Latin-Roman. No settlement had an original Muslim-Arab name with a historical root in its location. Most of the inhabitants of the cities were Jews, the others were Christians. The Arabs were predominantly Christians with a tiny minority of Muslims. In Nazareth there were approximately 700 people - all Christians. In Gaza there were approximately 550 people - half of them Jews, the rest Christians. Um-El-Phachem was a village of 10 families - all Christians. Reland mentions all the Muslim Arabs as nomadic Bedouin tribes who arrived in the area as seasonal workers.[6]

In 1835 Alphonse de Lamartine wrote: "Outside the city of Jerusalem, we saw no living object, heard no living sound. . .a complete eternal silence reigns in the town, in the highways, in the country."[7]

In 1844, William Thackeray writes about the road from Jaffa to Jerusalem: "Now the district is quite deserted, and you ride among what seem to be so many petrified waterfalls. We saw no animals moving among the stony brakes; scarcely even a dozen little birds in the whole course of the ride."[8]

In 1857, the British consul in Palestine, James Finn, reported: "The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population."[9]

In 1866, W.M. Thomson writes: "How melancholy is this utter desolation. Not a house, not a trace of inhabitants, not even shepherds, to relieve the dull monotony ... Much of the country through which we have been rambling for a week appears never to have been inhabited, or even cultivated; and there are other parts, you say, still more barren."[10]

In 1867, Mark Twain - Samuel Clemens, the famous author of "Huckleberry Finn" and "Tom Sawyer", toured the Holy Land. This is how he described the land: "There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent; not for thirty miles in either direction... One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings ... Nazareth is forlorn... Jericho lies a mouldering ruin... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds. A silent, mournful expanse. We never saw a human being on the whole route. There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."[11]

In 1874, Reverend Samuel Manning wrote: "But where were the inhabitants? This fertile plain, which might support an immense population, is almost a solitude.... Day by day we were to learn afresh the lesson now forced upon us, that the denunciations of ancient prophecy have been fulfilled to the very letter -- "the land is left void and desolate and without inhabitants." (Jeremiah, ch.44 v.22)[12]

In 1892, B. W. Johnson writes: "In the portion of the plain between Mount Carmel and Jaffa one sees but rarely a village or other sights of human life... A ride of half an hour more brought us to the ruins of the ancient city of Cæsarea, once a city of two hundred thousand inhabitants, and the Roman capital of Palestine, but now entirely deserted... I laid upon my couch at night, to listen to the moaning of the waves and to think of the desolation around us."[13]

In 1913, a British report, by the Palestinian Royal Commission, quotes an account of the conditions on the coastal plain along the Mediterranean Sea: "The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track, suitable for transport by camels or carts. No orange groves, orchards or vineyards were to be seen until one reached the [Jewish] Yabna village. Houses were mud. Schools did not exist. The western part toward the sea was almost a desert. The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many villages were deserted by their inhabitants."

As we can see, throughout history, as documented by Arab historians and by foreign observers before 1917, the land was desolate; there were no Muslim Arabs in the cities outside of Jerusalem; and the number of Muslim Arabs (other than Ottoman Muslims or Christian Arabs) was minuscule, most of them nomadic Bedouins. A huge difference exists between these authentic accounts and the falsified Muslim-Arab propaganda.

When the Holy Land was taken from the Ottomans by the British, it was no longer under Muslim control. The Quran commands Muslims to take land away from non-Muslims, including land which they have never trodden on before[14]. Following the British conquest of the Holy land, the Muslim Arabs embarked on a massive immigration into the Holy Land, fulfilling their religious obligation to capture as much foreign land as possible. The following accounts describe the massive Arab immigration after 1918:

In 1930/31, Lewis French, the British Director of Development wrote about the Arabs in Palestine: "We found it inhabited by fellahin (Arab farmers) who lived in mud hovels and suffered severely from the prevalent malaria... Large areas were uncultivated... The fellahin, if not themselves cattle thieves, were always ready to harbor these and other criminals. The individual plots changed hands annually. There was little public security, and the fellahin's lot was an alternation of pillage and blackmail by their neighbors, the bedouin (Arab nomads)."

The British Hope-Simpson Commission recommended, in 1930, "Prevention of illicit immigration" to stop the illegal Arab immigration from neighboring Arab countries.[15]

The British Governor of the Sinai (1922-36) reported in the Palestine Royal Commission Report: "This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria."

The governor of the Syrian district of Hauran, Tewfik Bey El Hurani, admitted in 1934 that in a single period of only a few months over 30,000 Syrians from Hauran had moved to Palestine.

British Prime Minister Winston Churchill noted the Arab influx. Churchill, a veteran of the early years of the British mandate in the Holy Land, noted in 1939 that "far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."



The Arab population in the Holy Land increased only because of their massive immigration from neighboring Arab countries. Before 1918, when the Arab immigration started, only a minuscule number of Muslim Arabs lived in the Holy Land, practically all of them in Jerusalem. This is why it is so difficult to find an old-age Arab in the Holy Land whose grandparents were born in the Holy Land.

[link to www.think-israel.org]

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...they invaded Palestine and ethnically cleansed it.
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That is such an obscene lie that one can only wonder about the person that perpetuates it.
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It is so upsetting...that I am not even going to comment.
Tangled within the codes
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"Palestinians" are almost entirely Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians that moved to the area primarily because of work opportunities provided by the increasing Jewish population.

They were not the prior residents who had everything stolen from them. That is merely the usual propaganda.

Apart from all the royal dictators,
the Arab/Muslims with the best living standards and civil rights in the Middle East live are Israeli citizens.
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So if the international community decided that your home/town/state should be the property of a group of foreigners, you would be OK with that?
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That's simply not the way it was, and nothing I can say will persuade you otherwise if you are strictly unwilling to hear.
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Please, enlighten me with your Zionist wisdom. I'm sure you think that The european invaders to america were probably in the right as well. If these damn savages would just peacefully give up their homes, there would be no more conflict.
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...they invaded Palestine and ethnically cleansed it.
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That is such an obscene lie that one can only wonder about the person that perpetuates it.
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Look, I'm not going to argue with a lying Jew. I will just prepare for the day which is quickly approaching when the Jewish problem will finally be solved.
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And I like>>> no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God." They are there for good !!!!!!!Does not matter how much the Arabs kick and scream!!!! and try push them into the sea.
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70percent of the Israeli Jews and 82 percent of the Palestinian Muslim Arabs share the same gene chromozone pool. Get over it.
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Apart from all the royal dictators, the Arab/Muslims with the best living standards and civil rights in the Middle East live in Israel and are Israeli citizens.
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...they invaded Palestine and ethnically cleansed it.
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That is such an obscene lie that one can only wonder about the person that perpetuates it.
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Look, I'm not going to argue with a lying Jew. I will just prepare for the day which is quickly approaching when the Jewish problem will finally be solved.
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I'm not a Jew, you fucking Nazi.
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As a matter of fact, I am of German heritage...

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