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| redhouserebel User ID: 56016952 United Kingdom03/23/2014 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see why that became news even for a day. There is nothing in that conversation that raises any red flags at all. Quoting: Angel Wings There are some: this Thread: MH370 Air Traffic Control Transcript Query plus this: 00:50:06 ATC: MH370, climbing to flight altitude 350 00:50:09 MH370: This is MH370, flight altitude 350 01:01:14 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:01:19 ATC: MH370 01:07:55 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:08:00 ATC: MH370 It was unnecessary for MH370 to come back after 11 minutes at 01.01:14 and repeat his altitude - and then he did it again - confused the radar tower person. Its like he was saying to the hijacker - if i do not report in they will think something is wrong - so he makes random unnecessary check ins. A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30498744 United States03/23/2014 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see why that became news even for a day. There is nothing in that conversation that raises any red flags at all. Quoting: Angel Wings There are some: this Thread: MH370 Air Traffic Control Transcript Query plus this: 00:50:06 ATC: MH370, climbing to flight altitude 350 00:50:09 MH370: This is MH370, flight altitude 350 01:01:14 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:01:19 ATC: MH370 01:07:55 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:08:00 ATC: MH370 It was unnecessary for MH370 to come back after 11 minutes at 01.01:14 and repeat his altitude - and then he did it again - confused the radar tower person. Its like he was saying to the hijacker - if i do not report in they will think something is wrong - so he makes random unnecessary check ins. I agree. There could've been a terrorist with a gun to his head for all we know. For his loved ones sake I hope not, but all possibilities must be explored in this - and not by the media constantly focusing on it being something sinister by the pilot or co-pilot. Wonder why all the ATC would say is 'MH370"? Seems they would ask more questions at that point... |
| redhouserebel User ID: 56016952 United Kingdom03/23/2014 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see why that became news even for a day. There is nothing in that conversation that raises any red flags at all. Quoting: Angel Wings There are some: this Thread: MH370 Air Traffic Control Transcript Query plus this: 00:50:06 ATC: MH370, climbing to flight altitude 350 00:50:09 MH370: This is MH370, flight altitude 350 01:01:14 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:01:19 ATC: MH370 01:07:55 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:08:00 ATC: MH370 It was unnecessary for MH370 to come back after 11 minutes at 01.01:14 and repeat his altitude - and then he did it again - confused the radar tower person. Its like he was saying to the hijacker - if i do not report in they will think something is wrong - so he makes random unnecessary check ins. I agree. There could've been a terrorist with a gun to his head for all we know. For his loved ones sake I hope not, but all possibilities must be explored in this - and not by the media constantly focusing on it being something sinister by the pilot or co-pilot. Wonder why all the ATC would say is 'MH370"? Seems they would ask more questions at that point... it isn't usual for a pilot to make these contacts. A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30498744 United States03/23/2014 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see why that became news even for a day. There is nothing in that conversation that raises any red flags at all. Quoting: Angel Wings There are some: this Thread: MH370 Air Traffic Control Transcript Query plus this: 00:50:06 ATC: MH370, climbing to flight altitude 350 00:50:09 MH370: This is MH370, flight altitude 350 01:01:14 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:01:19 ATC: MH370 01:07:55 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:08:00 ATC: MH370 It was unnecessary for MH370 to come back after 11 minutes at 01.01:14 and repeat his altitude - and then he did it again - confused the radar tower person. Its like he was saying to the hijacker - if i do not report in they will think something is wrong - so he makes random unnecessary check ins. I agree. There could've been a terrorist with a gun to his head for all we know. For his loved ones sake I hope not, but all possibilities must be explored in this - and not by the media constantly focusing on it being something sinister by the pilot or co-pilot. Wonder why all the ATC would say is 'MH370"? Seems they would ask more questions at that point... it isn't usual for a pilot to make these contacts. So were they just confirming what they said by repeating 'MH370'? |
| redhouserebel User ID: 56016952 United Kingdom03/23/2014 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: redhouserebel There are some: this Thread: MH370 Air Traffic Control Transcript Query plus this: 00:50:06 ATC: MH370, climbing to flight altitude 350 00:50:09 MH370: This is MH370, flight altitude 350 01:01:14 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:01:19 ATC: MH370 01:07:55 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:08:00 ATC: MH370 It was unnecessary for MH370 to come back after 11 minutes at 01.01:14 and repeat his altitude - and then he did it again - confused the radar tower person. Its like he was saying to the hijacker - if i do not report in they will think something is wrong - so he makes random unnecessary check ins. I agree. There could've been a terrorist with a gun to his head for all we know. For his loved ones sake I hope not, but all possibilities must be explored in this - and not by the media constantly focusing on it being something sinister by the pilot or co-pilot. Wonder why all the ATC would say is 'MH370"? Seems they would ask more questions at that point... it isn't usual for a pilot to make these contacts. So were they just confirming what they said by repeating 'MH370'? No. To me this was almost them querying the contact - as in : Go ahead but with ??? attached. As you can see from the transcript - the usual way to confirm is to repeat. A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47805087 United States03/23/2014 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see why that became news even for a day. There is nothing in that conversation that raises any red flags at all. Quoting: Angel Wings There are some: this Thread: MH370 Air Traffic Control Transcript Query plus this: 00:50:06 ATC: MH370, climbing to flight altitude 350 00:50:09 MH370: This is MH370, flight altitude 350 01:01:14 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:01:19 ATC: MH370 01:07:55 MH370: MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350 01:08:00 ATC: MH370 It was unnecessary for MH370 to come back after 11 minutes at 01.01:14 and repeat his altitude - and then he did it again - confused the radar tower person. Its like he was saying to the hijacker - if i do not report in they will think something is wrong - so he makes random unnecessary check ins. I agree. There could've been a terrorist with a gun to his head for all we know. For his loved ones sake I hope not, but all possibilities must be explored in this - and not by the media constantly focusing on it being something sinister by the pilot or co-pilot. Wonder why all the ATC would say is 'MH370"? Seems they would ask more questions at that point... Atc was acknowledging they recieved the message, that is most likely, now the question would be to the Atc person what was their perception of such as for me that is unusual as typically it should have been confirmed by Atc by "MH370 confirmed flight altitude 350" or something to acknowledge that was the confirmed altitude. That tells me that control was either surprised by the quick altitude statement from 370 or they were busy with another flight and didn't take time to offer the proper acknowledgment. I'm working on my small aircraft pilot's license, completed the paper testing, working on real flight tests now as time permits for what it's worth. I'm really not familer with commercial aircraft or for that matter every Atc has different mannerism esp over seas, but the general rule is that every communication between control and a aircraft requires acknowledgment to confirm its recieved properly and that is technically what the simple "MH370" from control was. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30498744 United States03/23/2014 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angel Wings I agree. There could've been a terrorist with a gun to his head for all we know. For his loved ones sake I hope not, but all possibilities must be explored in this - and not by the media constantly focusing on it being something sinister by the pilot or co-pilot. Wonder why all the ATC would say is 'MH370"? Seems they would ask more questions at that point... it isn't usual for a pilot to make these contacts. So were they just confirming what they said by repeating 'MH370'? No. To me this was almost them querying the contact - as in : Go ahead but with ??? attached. As you can see from the transcript - the usual way to confirm is to repeat. If that's true then that alone is a good form of proof the pilot/co-pilot were saying things against their will. They were trained experts, they would know what to say to not make them even the slightest bit suspicious. |
| redhouserebel User ID: 56016952 United Kingdom03/23/2014 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. To me this was almost them querying the contact - as in : Go ahead but with ??? attached. As you can see from the transcript - the usual way to confirm is to repeat. If that's true then that alone is a good form of proof the pilot/co-pilot were saying things against their will. They were trained experts, they would know what to say to not make them even the slightest bit suspicious. I don't think he was saying something against his will - i think he was trying to say something to attract attention - perhaps so he could say something else - but he probaly was hard put to do that. Have you ever been in a situation when you want to say something but the words don't come... have you ever thought say: let's say you were in trouble - held hostage and allowed to make a call but not allowed to alert anyone what was going on - have a think and see if you can think of what to say to alert the person on the other endof the line without being obvious and getting shot. One thing to do - is to say: if i don't make this call - suspicion will be aroused - as in - if i don;t keep stating my position/ altitude - they will be concerned - exact opposite of the truth - also as I have said on the link above - in the bit where he talks to then he says "ATC" - but they are not ATC - they are the radar control... that is what i was asking on the thread i have linked above. Also - yes - they speak english - very good english. A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30498744 United States03/23/2014 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. To me this was almost them querying the contact - as in : Go ahead but with ??? attached. As you can see from the transcript - the usual way to confirm is to repeat. If that's true then that alone is a good form of proof the pilot/co-pilot were saying things against their will. They were trained experts, they would know what to say to not make them even the slightest bit suspicious. I don't think he was saying something against his will - i think he was trying to say something to attract attention - perhaps so he could say something else - but he probaly was hard put to do that. Have you ever been in a situation when you want to say something but the words don't come... have you ever thought say: let's say you were in trouble - held hostage and allowed to make a call but not allowed to alert anyone what was going on - have a think and see if you can think of what to say to alert the person on the other endof the line without being obvious and getting shot. One thing to do - is to say: if i don't make this call - suspicion will be aroused - as in - if i don;t keep stating my position/ altitude - they will be concerned - exact opposite of the truth - also as I have said on the link above - in the bit where he talks to then he says "ATC" - but they are not ATC - they are the radar control... that is what i was asking on the thread i have linked above. Also - yes - they speak english - very good english. I understand what you are saying, and I agree. I think what is making a lot of people confused is how they could be hijacked and NOT say anything, not radio for support, etc. but if they were in real danger then it would all make perfect sense. I just fear for them, I cant imagine what may have happened - I just know that based upon that conversation all suspicion around the pilots should be totally dismissed. Its obvious now that he/they were not acting normal. They were in fear but still in some control. Professional. |
| redhouserebel User ID: 56016952 United Kingdom03/23/2014 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: redhouserebel No. To me this was almost them querying the contact - as in : Go ahead but with ??? attached. As you can see from the transcript - the usual way to confirm is to repeat. If that's true then that alone is a good form of proof the pilot/co-pilot were saying things against their will. They were trained experts, they would know what to say to not make them even the slightest bit suspicious. I don't think he was saying something against his will - i think he was trying to say something to attract attention - perhaps so he could say something else - but he probaly was hard put to do that. Have you ever been in a situation when you want to say something but the words don't come... have you ever thought say: let's say you were in trouble - held hostage and allowed to make a call but not allowed to alert anyone what was going on - have a think and see if you can think of what to say to alert the person on the other endof the line without being obvious and getting shot. One thing to do - is to say: if i don't make this call - suspicion will be aroused - as in - if i don;t keep stating my position/ altitude - they will be concerned - exact opposite of the truth - also as I have said on the link above - in the bit where he talks to then he says "ATC" - but they are not ATC - they are the radar control... that is what i was asking on the thread i have linked above. Also - yes - they speak english - very good english. I understand what you are saying, and I agree. I think what is making a lot of people confused is how they could be hijacked and NOT say anything, not radio for support, etc. but if they were in real danger then it would all make perfect sense. I just fear for them, I cant imagine what may have happened - I just know that based upon that conversation all suspicion around the pilots should be totally dismissed. Its obvious now that he/they were not acting normal. They were in fear but still in some control. Professional. I 100 per cent agree with this and if i knew how to give you my karma thumb i would. I feel there has been deliberate propoganda put out to try to blame the pilots - not just maybe a normal amount of reasonable questioning - and this is so unfair - apparently according to some poll or other - most people there are blaming the pilots - terrible shame. The pilot flew deliberately over the military radar in Malaysia - to be seen - not to hide. This may have been his only way of asking for help. Good night <3 A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30498744 United States03/23/2014 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angel Wings If that's true then that alone is a good form of proof the pilot/co-pilot were saying things against their will. They were trained experts, they would know what to say to not make them even the slightest bit suspicious. I don't think he was saying something against his will - i think he was trying to say something to attract attention - perhaps so he could say something else - but he probaly was hard put to do that. Have you ever been in a situation when you want to say something but the words don't come... have you ever thought say: let's say you were in trouble - held hostage and allowed to make a call but not allowed to alert anyone what was going on - have a think and see if you can think of what to say to alert the person on the other endof the line without being obvious and getting shot. One thing to do - is to say: if i don't make this call - suspicion will be aroused - as in - if i don;t keep stating my position/ altitude - they will be concerned - exact opposite of the truth - also as I have said on the link above - in the bit where he talks to then he says "ATC" - but they are not ATC - they are the radar control... that is what i was asking on the thread i have linked above. Also - yes - they speak english - very good english. I understand what you are saying, and I agree. I think what is making a lot of people confused is how they could be hijacked and NOT say anything, not radio for support, etc. but if they were in real danger then it would all make perfect sense. I just fear for them, I cant imagine what may have happened - I just know that based upon that conversation all suspicion around the pilots should be totally dismissed. Its obvious now that he/they were not acting normal. They were in fear but still in some control. Professional. I 100 per cent agree with this and if i knew how to give you my karma thumb i would. I feel there has been deliberate propoganda put out to try to blame the pilots - not just maybe a normal amount of reasonable questioning - and this is so unfair - apparently according to some poll or other - most people there are blaming the pilots - terrible shame. The pilot flew deliberately over the military radar in Malaysia - to be seen - not to hide. This may have been his only way of asking for help. Good night <3 That's so true! I never thought of that before. I feel the media will owe a huge apology to the families of the pilots when all this is over. Just the other day I was flipping through channels and saw CNN say something about the co-pilot and 'what does his politics have to do with this?' Really?! No, they are just grasping at straws. I think they are afraid to admit the truth - that it was likely hijacked and we aren't as 'safe' as Obama claims. That this is another one of SEVERAL attempts at terrorism since Obama was elected. Why? Simply because they can. They know they can now and there will be nothing done. Ugh I just wish this were over. God bless the families of those pilots and passengers. Good Night!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50667838  Canada04/18/2014 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to deviate guys... I'm a newshound - Boeing has been in part of my news program constantly - at least until about two months or so ago (economics section, android News 'n Weather app). They're regarded, from my view, as a company that is CONSTANTLY in the news for their failures as developers/creators/producers of aircrafts. Their battery issues and their deals with the middle east - Google pulled them up every second day for some issue or other and based on speculation it's nothing short of a miracle that their stock hasn't fallen on its face (mind you the same can be said about Blackberry). Every article headline was always the same: Boeing fails. Another problem for Boeing. I just felt compelled to bring that factoid back to the forefront because I'd forgotten and perhaps it can help somebody with this weird mess. |
