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What is in vogue with the new generation of illuminus?

 
MaybeTrollingU

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As humans, its nearly impossible for us to glimpse a singularity, a pure one.
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True, but I believe it can be experienced.
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I got close, and look what happened...
red eyes
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Black holes are an example of dangerous singularity.
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Not exactly. The gravity on them bends time so hard that only void is tangible in them
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I'm glad your mind goes in a slightly different direction, because not everyone agrees on what 'they' are... I don't like MaybetrollingU's description...
People thinking the illuminus try to mind control people through sexual deviation is more of a projection of a person's own fears of their own sexuality and power than a true description of any illuminus that may be.
 Quoting: Requiem


Well that's what I'm still trying to decide, really. The term really refers to the illuminated, those with understanding - stripped of all the preconception, it doesn't seem like a negative descriptor.
 Quoting: Caylus Arc


Seconded….
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Think again. "Those with understanding", can mean a lot of things. Don't forget that good and bad are no more than points of view.
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ok to explain what I am meaning...

you are saying to these guys here who are saying that the illuminus is not necessarily a negative, that they should think again [i.e. you are pushing for the opposite view that they ARE negative].
You are saying that they can have illumination and be good or.... they could have illumination and be bad... because good and bad are points of view or cloaks which are laid over the 'understanding' or 'illuminus'.

However, these cloaks are things YOU the viewer are placing over the illuminus, over that which is illumination or understanding, or whatever in reality.
It is your reality judgement you place over reality.

The good and bad cloaks are from a singular source - you, not from two points of view outside of you, one good and one bad. How YOU see reality has nothing to do with whether other people believe certain things to be good or bad, or whether they believe themselves to be good or bad...

There ARE two singular types of points of view here -
not one good and one bad;
but one type that has the polarisation of good and bad in it
and
one that doesn't.
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Well that's what I'm still trying to decide, really. The term really refers to the illuminated, those with understanding - stripped of all the preconception, it doesn't seem like a negative descriptor.
 Quoting: Caylus Arc


Seconded….
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55546391


Think again. "Those with understanding", can mean a lot of things. Don't forget that good and bad are no more than points of view.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


ok to explain what I am meaning...

you are saying to these guys here who are saying that the illuminus is not necessarily a negative, that they should think again [i.e. you are pushing for the opposite view that they ARE negative].
You are saying that they can have illumination and be good or.... they could have illumination and be bad... because good and bad are points of view or cloaks which are laid over the 'understanding' or 'illuminus'.

However, these cloaks are things YOU the viewer are placing over the illuminus, over that which is illumination or understanding, or whatever in reality.
It is your reality judgement you place over reality.

The good and bad cloaks are from a singular source - you, not from two points of view outside of you, one good and one bad. How YOU see reality has nothing to do with whether other people believe certain things to be good or bad, or whether they believe themselves to be good or bad...

There ARE two singular types of points of view here -
not one good and one bad;
but one type that has the polarisation of good and bad in it
and
one that doesn't.
 Quoting: Requiem


Thanks, now it makes a lot more sense.
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Re: What is in vogue with the new generation of illuminus?
and just for the question of 'how the fuck can there not be 'bad' there's obviously fucking 'bad' shit'?

for example... it's about how you use something personally, with perspective and understanding of how it's supposed to be used in harmony with all life.

A crocodile isn't bad - it's just doing it's shit. That's what it does and it fits perfectly into the ecosystem.
If we embody every single facet of the sphere of life, of every face that exists, of every archytype... the perspective that has a foot in every shoe, so to speak, isn't out of synch or out of harmony with everything else and it SINGS. no matter WHAT it is doing or being.. it is the whole, without stopping the flow of the divine dance. Judgement is what stops the flow and limits the perspective, lowering the speed of the flow and the ability to reach that dome.

What needs to go back to the earth and to the 1st dimension to be recycled, so to speak, goes there compassionately and in love. What needs to be nurtured is nurtured. What needs some tough arse severe medicine gets it... and all under a common dome of love and understanding, or illumination.
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and just for the question of 'how the fuck can there not be 'bad' there's obviously fucking 'bad' shit'?

for example... it's about how you use something personally, with perspective and understanding of how it's supposed to be used in harmony with all life.

A crocodile isn't bad - it's just doing it's shit. That's what it does and it fits perfectly into the ecosystem.
If we embody every single facet of the sphere of life, of every face that exists, of every archytype... the perspective that has a foot in every shoe, so to speak, isn't out of synch or out of harmony with everything else and it SINGS. no matter WHAT it is doing or being.. it is the whole, without stopping the flow of the divine dance. Judgement is what stops the flow and limits the perspective, lowering the speed of the flow and the ability to reach that dome.

What needs to go back to the earth and to the 1st dimension to be recycled, so to speak, goes there compassionately and in love. What needs to be nurtured is nurtured. What needs some tough arse severe medicine gets it... and all under a common dome of love and understanding, or illumination.
 Quoting: Requiem


I see your point...
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03/25/2014 11:01 AM
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Re: What is in vogue with the new generation of illuminus?
They've never cared about religion. They use whatever the people are into in their time to control them. People alone, think for themselves, people in groups think whatever they're told to.
The vogue was and always will be full power over mankind. They don't have trends, they don't follow tendencies, all they want is to control YOU.
The people are, in a general way, changing interest in religion and they will use it in their favor.
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they are, or at least have been, extremely religious: they have their own religion/s. They have their own priesthoods etc. They have, or a certain percentage of them anyway, have the predilection for believing in prophecy and all sorts of shit... as if they are not like everyone else? of course they are.. they even use it to manipulate each other... they don't just want to control "YOU" as you put it... they want to be immortal, they want to be god, they want to be enlightened etc, just like all humans have a tendency to want.

And oh yes they DO have trends.... they have things that go out of fashion because the full spectrum of consequences were not understood at particular times... only classical thinking and styles and "immortal" metaphysics doesn't go out of style and they haven't been using it.
 Quoting: Requiem


How does anyone find out what the ruling elite really believe or feel without double deception and lies tainting the information? For every bit of truth we receive, they have armies of disinformation agents refuting and confusing the truth. They know longer try to hide secrets, but instead just put out 3/4/5 versions of the same information in the form of deception and misdirection.

I know longer know what to believe...
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Re: What is in vogue with the new generation of illuminus?
They've never cared about religion. They use whatever the people are into in their time to control them. People alone, think for themselves, people in groups think whatever they're told to.
The vogue was and always will be full power over mankind. They don't have trends, they don't follow tendencies, all they want is to control YOU.
The people are, in a general way, changing interest in religion and they will use it in their favor.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


they are, or at least have been, extremely religious: they have their own religion/s. They have their own priesthoods etc. They have, or a certain percentage of them anyway, have the predilection for believing in prophecy and all sorts of shit... as if they are not like everyone else? of course they are.. they even use it to manipulate each other... they don't just want to control "YOU" as you put it... they want to be immortal, they want to be god, they want to be enlightened etc, just like all humans have a tendency to want.

And oh yes they DO have trends.... they have things that go out of fashion because the full spectrum of consequences were not understood at particular times... only classical thinking and styles and "immortal" metaphysics doesn't go out of style and they haven't been using it.
 Quoting: Requiem


How does anyone find out what the ruling elite really believe or feel without double deception and lies tainting the information? For every bit of truth we receive, they have armies of disinformation agents refuting and confusing the truth. They know longer try to hide secrets, but instead just put out 3/4/5 versions of the same information in the form of deception and misdirection.

I know longer know what to believe...
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I don't think they really give a fuck what we're all on about tbh.. there's only very select things they will care about at any time, but mostly, the only people really caring about what's being said are PR people for fucking china or other assorted ye old field of who gives a fuck.
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Re: What is in vogue with the new generation of illuminus?
i am ALL

i am all coming and all going for the infinite motion i am being the spark of no motion for ALL i am unity

the ultimate power be that of no power the very start and end of power as one





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