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Whales, Zero ~ The World, 1 ~ Pacific states desert New Zealand in whaling vote

 
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Whales, Zero ~ The World, 1 ~ Pacific states desert New Zealand in whaling vote
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

Tuesday June 20, 2006
By Anne Beston


An international whaling forum erupted into scenes of despair and elation yesterday as whaling promoters won a historic victory thanks to tiny Pacific nations abandoning New Zealand to vote with Japan.

Neighbouring countries which had given assurances they would not support a resumption of commercial whaling at the International Whaling Commission meeting instead helped to push through a "declaration" calling for the resumption of commercial whaling and for the organisation to return to its original purpose - regulating the whale hunt.

The vote was won by the slimmest of margins, 33 votes to 32.

Prime Minister Helen Clark said the Government would express its sadness to those Pacific countries who voted with Japan to secure the victory but had no plans to tie aid funding to such votes.

Instead, she hoped continuing "moral pressure" would ultimately influence Japan and those it had encouraged to vote on its side.

The resolution labelled the 20-year moratorium on commercial hunts "no longer necessary".

Helen Clark said the result was disappointing.

"It does mean we cannot count on whales being safe for the future. On the other hand, it doesn't mean commercial whaling is about to resume. There's a rather high test for that."

Conservation Minister Chris Carter, leading the New Zealand delegation, said the first substantial victory for Japan in 25 years was "particularly disturbing".

"I was given some understanding in several of those countries they would never agree to a resumption of whaling."

Large dollops of Japanese aid, or promises of aid - including a reported $22 million to the tiny nation of Tuvalu in the past two years - is thought to have played a major part in voting.

The declaration drew derision because it blamed whales for depletion of fish stocks.

More at posted link...





My 2¢: Looks like the almighty ¥en speaks very loud indeed.

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This news sucks shit.


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Majority of Japanese Public Does Not Support Whaling or Consume Whale Meat

14 March 2000

Wide-held theory that Japanese support whaling and defend whale meat industry is disproved by leading international opinion research firm.

In a survey of the Japanese public released today by the International fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) and Greenpeace, 55% held no opinion or were neutral in regard to commercial whaling - dispelling the wide-held belief that the Japanese public was a strong proponent of commercial whaling. While 14% opposed whaling outright, only 11% of those polled supported whaling. A strong 20% noted that the reason for killing the whales would play a part in their decision. The survey was conducted by Britain's leading opinion research company MORI, in partnership with the well-known Nippon Research Center in Japan.

The Japanese government has been the strongest global proponents for the reopening of international commercial whaling - banned since 1986. The Japanese most often cite cultural and traditional values as the main reason for hunting whale. However, in their report, MORI say "the Japanese are largely neutral on the perceived importance to them personally of commercial whaling continuing: 24% say it is important, 25% say not - and half are undecided."

Even more dramatically, the report finds that, "Virtually nobody fears Japan's cultural identity would suffer greatly were whaling to stop". "Even among whaling's defenders, only one in twenty predict a 'great deal' of damage if it stopped, and four in ten (42%) say 'not very much' or 'not at all'."

"These strong poll results clearly indicate that the people of Japan no longer consider whaling to be an integral part of their cultural heritage, nor do they support if," said Karen Steuer, IFAW Director of Commercial Trade and Exploitation of Animals. "Finally we can do away with this archaic argument," she added.

These significant Japanese poll results come at a time when Japan has heated up its battle to reopen the international trade-unions in whale meat. Japan will introduce three such proposals - including the hunting of minke and gray whale - at the upcoming Convention on the International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) meeting to be held in Nairobi from April 10th - 20th. Yesterday, a top Japanese fishery official announced that Japan would utilise software developed by the International Whaling Commission (IWC) to carry to its hunts without endangering the species.

"The government's claim that the IWC has developed a computer program that will suddenly allow them to go whaling is not valid," said IFAW's Japan Representative, Naoko Funahashi. "Several years ago the IWC approved a method of calculating how many whales might be taken from some whale stocks without endangering them, but that method is designed only to be used in combination with a strict monitoring regime to prevent the under-reporting of whale catches that has plagued the whaling industry throughout history. This monitoring procedure has yet to be developed and approved by the IWC."

The MORI poll report also shows that Japanese do not consider whale meat to be an important part of their cultural diet, starting that, "Six in ten (61%) have not eaten it since childhood, if at all, and just 1% eat it once among (and nobody more often than this)."

"Clearly the people of Japan do not consider whale meat to be a significant component of their diet", said Steuer. "Japanese whaling proponents can no longer be allowed to use this as their defence in campaigning for international commercial whaling."

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A nationally representative sample of 1,185 Japanese adults aged 18+ was interviewed face-to-face between 17 November - 2 December 1999.

Nippon Research Center is one of Japan's leading opinion research agencies, and a frequent collaborator with MORI on Japanese research.
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You gotta wonder if this doesn't something to do with the collapse of commercial fisheries and efforts by this industry to destroy the non-human competition. Things are getting really fucked up now on planet earth. The oceans are polluted, UV rays from the depleted ozone are upsetting the balance of plankton and algae. Increased water temperatures are stressing the ecosystem. People are eating ever lower on the food chain.
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Dude...that's fucked up.

What the fuck do they need the whales for? Perfumes? Leather boots?

Fuck that shit. Whales are cool as heaven.

The whales will be saved somehow. The whales will be saved.
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Dude...that's fucked up.

What the fuck do they need the whales for? Perfumes? Leather boots?

Fuck that shit. Whales are cool as heaven.

The whales will be saved somehow. The whales will be saved.
 Quoting: Hero8Unltd



Hero, I whole heartedly agree. I have spent many enjoyable hours watching humpback whales off Cape Cod and those times are some of the most beautiful hours I have spent on the planet.

There are fewerer than 10,000 humpbacks remaing, and the situation is not much better for the other, larger whales.

A world without whales will be a sad one indeed.

We are shitting in our own messkit.
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That was my reply, above, Hero!

Dude...that's fucked up.

What the fuck do they need the whales for? Perfumes? Leather boots?

Fuck that shit. Whales are cool as heaven.

The whales will be saved somehow. The whales will be saved.



Hero, I whole heartedly agree. I have spent many enjoyable hours watching humpback whales off Cape Cod and those times are some of the most beautiful hours I have spent on the planet.

There are fewerer than 10,000 humpbacks remaing, and the situation is not much better for the other, larger whales.

A world without whales will be a sad one indeed.

We are shitting in our own messkit.
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Why whales?
Roll it ova....
Greeze it dowen.....
Here come that crazy screamin' sowen
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Yes, why whales? Why not protect cows? Some species of whale are still recovering from overexploitation while others are plentiful. Lumping all whales together is ridiculous. There is no rational reason for not allowing sustainable hunting of some whale species.

Killing animals is sad but you are in no position to complain about it if you are a meat eater.

Many of the planets animal species are in danger of extinction. Something should be done to protect them rather than wasting time and energy whining about the cows of the sea.
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A blow to the "save the whales industry". Ignorant city dwellers have been fleeced for donations by whining save the whalers for too long. It's time they learned that many whale species are not endangered in any way.
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Nobody gives a shit about the Anoa, and Elton John never sang a song for Dodi either.
Go figure.
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Whales make the best lamp oil by far.
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That's good news in a way, at least when the ring of fire gets going, and it will, and Japan bites the dust I will not give a shit. In fact instead of feeling grief at the loss of life I will be able to feel joy at the lives being saved. There is a bright side to everything if you look hard enough.
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In the UK they ban Fox hunting...

Jap's vote for whale hunting...

There's salt in your eyes man!!
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"In fact instead of feeling grief at the loss of life I will be able to feel joy at the lives being saved."

Are you a vegetarian? If not, then just shut up. Animals are being killed every day to feed you and the likes of you. How did we come to the stage that the life a whale is more important than the life of a human being? Should you be killed to save the life of the chickens, cows, pigs, etc. that you will eadont_use_thisifetime.

Ignorant city dwellers think food comes out of supermarkets and there is no killing involved. You have totally lost touch with nature.
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I can see why the Republic of Palau voting with Japan, the Palauans have very strong ties to Japan, especially from a tourism point of view.

The Republic of the Marshall Islands, though; that is strange. The Marshallese recently turned down the offer of a multi-million dollar grand trom Taiwan to build a fishing station there -- on environmental grounds!

And the Federated States of Micronesia (Yap, Truk, and Ponape) voted against Japan; that's kind of odd too. If I'd had to guess I'd have thought the FSM delegates would have voted WITH Japan and the RMI delegation AGAINST Japan.
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I can see why the Republic of Palau voting with Japan, the Palauans have very strong ties to Japan, especially from a tourism point of view.

The Republic of the Marshall Islands, though; that is strange. The Marshallese recently turned down the offer of a multi-million dollar grand trom Taiwan to build a fishing station there -- on environmental grounds!

And the Federated States of Micronesia (Yap, Truk, and Ponape) voted against Japan; that's kind of odd too. If I'd had to guess I'd have thought the FSM delegates would have voted WITH Japan and the RMI delegation AGAINST Japan.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz




Yes, Duncan, The politics ARE odd in this ~ especially as the previos vote, it had gone in favor of keeping the moritorium.

I'm thinking that there was some effective lobbying going on ~ and as for the Marshalls, perhaps the representatives attending this meeting voted off the song sheet ~ or perhaps the Marshalls are re-grouping politically.

Makes you go, Hmmmm.
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