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NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences

 
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NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences
Supreme Court: No Guns For Any Domestic Violence Offenders

The United States Supreme Court is dropping the hammer on domestic violence offenders. In a unanimous 9-0 decision, the Court decided that anyone convicted of felony or MISDEMEANOR domestic violence is barred from owning a gun, regardless of whether or not there was proof of injury.

This ruling overturns rulings in several regions, which stated the ban on gun ownership only applied to convictions where violent use of force was proven, typically in the form of cuts, scrapes, bruises, etc.


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fwiw ... in many places one can be convicted of Misdemeanor Domestic Violence even if the parties were merely screaming at each other ... even if no threats of violence were made and no weapons brandied about.

Merely raising one's voice towards another person is deemed to be "Domestic Violence" in those jurisdictions ... but of course ONLY MEN are ever convicted of such a charge in those jurisdictions even if the woman was both the instigator and louder more threatening person to the verbal shouting.
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Re: NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences
Holy fucking shit this is big, this is 90% of the american public...
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Indiana has been doing this for years...Sit in one of their court rooms and watch them break their own laws.
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No worries these judges will be on their knees soon begging for forgiveness.
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Re: NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences
well then, THERE GOES OUR MILITARY!
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well then, THERE GOES OUR MILITARY!
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True but most of their women don't report it.
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Holy fucking shit this is big, this is 90% of the american public...
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Exxagerate much? But if there are gun laws not sure why a guy known to be unable to control himself and is violent has legal access to firearms.
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Re: NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences
The constitution supercedes the supreme court.plus most people are found guilty of assault.not domestic violence.its a ruse.
Stand up for your rights or lose them.
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No worries these judges will be on their knees soon begging for forgiveness.
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hesright
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AND THE PEOPLE SAID NO---

SORRY SUPREMES---

THE PEOPEL SAID NO

YOU ARE THE POWER PEOPLE, REMEMBER THAT
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Unless you are convicted in federal court.of federal domestic violence law then it dont count.since a person didnt cross a state line to commit domestic violence .the feds have no juridiction.its a state matter.
You got to know what a sham that law is.its a joke wrapped in a lie.i kick my wifes ass all the time and i have lots of guns.
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Holy fucking shit this is big, this is 90% of the american public...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49611167


Exxagerate much? But if there are gun laws not sure why a guy known to be unable to control himself and is violent has legal access to firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47377722


While a lot of domestic violence goes unreported, a lot are also false claims. Had an ex that flipped out on me one time while I was putting dishes in the washer. She grabbed a bottle of cleaning spray and started spraying it repeatedly in my face. I could not get away. I had to push her away. She trips on the edge of an area rug and falls down. Then acts shocked I reacted and hops on the phone crying to her family and friends that I was the one who got physical with her. She completely left out that I was put in a position to defend my eye sight from the cleaning chemical she was spraying in my face and she did not allow me to get away.

Needless to say, I dumped that psycho immediately. I have no doubt I would have been put in that position again or worse.
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Looks as if a lot of cops won't be allowed to have firearms. What's a gung-ho woman beater to do????1rof1
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Punching your refrigerator is a domestic assault. So says the cops.......
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Re: NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences
Unless you are convicted in federal court.of federal domestic violence law then it dont count.since a person didnt cross a state line to commit domestic violence .the feds have no juridiction.its a state matter.
You got to know what a sham that law is.its a joke wrapped in a lie.i kick my wifes ass all the time and i have lots of guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51352024


W-R-O-N-G !!

The law and the Supreme Court says nothing about ONLY being convicted in a Federal Court.

This applies even to the lowest level Court that can convict for a Misdemeanor offense ... which in some states can be a "Mayor's Court" where the only possible penalty is a small fine (Mayor's Courts are where the "Judge" doesn't even have to be an attorney)

Traditionally only very low level offenses can be tried in a Mayor's Court since NO jail time can be imposed ... if it is a serious offense then it is sent to a "real" Court. Convicted of DV in a "Mayor's Court and assessed a $50 fine since it is just two people yelling at each other ... VOILA, no more gun rights!!
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Had enough yet?
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civil war is coming Obama is the Antichrist.

its goonna be fun...
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No worries these judges will be on their knees soon begging for forgiveness.
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We have a massive problem with judges comitting crime. The worst is the fam court judges cmitting crime on children.

I hope to see your vision of the judges begging for forgiveness
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Supreme Obama Marxist Court
They wipe their Red arses on the Constitution
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Re: NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences
Unless you are convicted in federal court.of federal domestic violence law then it dont count.since a person didnt cross a state line to commit domestic violence .the feds have no juridiction.its a state matter.
You got to know what a sham that law is.its a joke wrapped in a lie.i kick my wifes ass all the time and i have lots of guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51352024


It may empower states (like NY where I live) to follow suit in their state laws, since SCOTUS has ruled that would not infringe 2nd Amendment rights.
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Re: NO guns for ANY "Domestic Violence" Offenders - including "misdemeanors" & "verbal only" offences
Unless you are convicted in federal court.of federal domestic violence law then it dont count.since a person didnt cross a state line to commit domestic violence .the feds have no juridiction.its a state matter.
You got to know what a sham that law is.its a joke wrapped in a lie.i kick my wifes ass all the time and i have lots of guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51352024


It may empower states (like NY where I live) to follow suit in their state laws, since SCOTUS has ruled that would not infringe 2nd Amendment rights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55566272


SCOTUS is Bung Boy's Communist paper tiger.
They would take gun rights from John Wayne
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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No worries these judges will be on their knees soon begging for forgiveness.
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Holy fucking shit this is big, this is 90% of the american public...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49611167


Exxagerate much? But if there are gun laws not sure why a guy known to be unable to control himself and is violent has legal access to firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47377722

The law is written in a way that a woman only has to claim abuse, in no way does she have to prove it. And now you no why the law was written in this way, Problem, reaction, solution. Its called chess
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Holy fucking shit this is big, this is 90% of the american public...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49611167


Exxagerate much? But if there are gun laws not sure why a guy known to be unable to control himself and is violent has legal access to firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47377722


While a lot of domestic violence goes unreported, a lot are also false claims. Had an ex that flipped out on me one time while I was putting dishes in the washer. She grabbed a bottle of cleaning spray and started spraying it repeatedly in my face. I could not get away. I had to push her away. She trips on the edge of an area rug and falls down. Then acts shocked I reacted and hops on the phone crying to her family and friends that I was the one who got physical with her. She completely left out that I was put in a position to defend my eye sight from the cleaning chemical she was spraying in my face and she did not allow me to get away.

Needless to say, I dumped that psycho immediately. I have no doubt I would have been put in that position again or worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7449124


Obvious lie. No woman would ever attack a man while he was loading the dishwasher. Just cannot happen.

;-)

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No worries these judges will be on their knees soon begging for forgiveness.
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They will receive no forgiveness!!!
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Holy fucking shit this is big, this is 90% of the american public...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49611167


Exxagerate much? But if there are gun laws not sure why a guy known to be unable to control himself and is violent has legal access to firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47377722

The law is written in a way that a woman only has to claim abuse, in no way does she have to prove it. And now you no why the law was written in this way, Problem, reaction, solution. Its called chess
 Quoting: STARLING


Really?

I thought any criminal conviction, even for a misdemeanor, required proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Really?

I thought any criminal conviction, even for a misdemeanor, required proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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In theory, yes.
But it's all about the money. If they can extract a fine from a person being found guilty, then he'll be convicted. Constitutional rights be damned!
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In Washington state a DV call is a weapon for girls to use when they are mad. Seriously. Judges out here never side with the guy and are hard when they get lawyers. Hardly any girls at all get in trouble out here for DV but a lot of guys. People get dvs for arguing or yelling on the phone out here. DV is major revenue for western Washington and used on people all the time.





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