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BUG OUT SCENARIO for Yellow Stone eruption "Which way do we go?" Huge fight with husband please give input!

 
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I wouldn't count on the jet stream remaining NORMAL.
Something that big is going to change EVERYTHING !!
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may even shift the physical pole? think of it like a jet, shooting into the highest reaches of the atmosphere. that along with the sheer amount of rock ejected could well destabilise our orbit

look where Toba, the LAST one to go is right now

RIGHT on the equator, within a degree or two
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sorry, not our orbit, our spin, I meant
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Minnesota

The midwestern states bordering Canada will find themselves in an optimal location following the pole shift. With an elevation well above the point that flooding from melted poles will encompass, and in an area that will be unaffected by continental tears, mountain building, or the repeated earthquakes that life on a fault line can bring, these heartland states will find themselves picking up the pieces relatively easily after the shift. The climate will improve, becoming milder, and the soil in these border states is deep and fertile. The major problem survivors will face is infraction as the date of passage approaches, and militant groups look for new locations to establish strongholds. If democratic practices are defended, and would-be dictatorships resisted, this part of the world should find itself able to help other parts of the world during the Aftertime, coming from a position of strength. Travel for survivors should rely heavily on small boats, not only because of the network of small lakes in Minnesota, but because the existing drainage of rivers will facilitate travel to almost all parts of the state and neighboring states.
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ada

All of Canada fares well during the coming pole shift, and depending upon its altitude will fare better after the pole shift than before, due to the climate changes. Canada in the main is not criss-crossed with earthquake faults of active volcanoes, and thus suffers less from the direct effects of earthquakes and exploding volcanoes during the pole shift. Due to the shifting crust, most surviving Canadians will also find themselves in a warmer climate too. Canada will be positioned above the equator in a temperate zone after the pole shift, in a wamer strata than at present. Where Canada is an ally of the US government, it is not all that comfortable with the giant to the south, and will rebel against any attempts to control Canadian lands after the pole shift. However, within Canada there are many factions that will battle with each other for resources. Where the Canadian people are resourceful and used to living in a harsh land deeply frozen during the long winters, in the cities as in all industrialized countries, the populace is soft and will be unprepared for Aftertime living when food stuffs are not imported. Religious factions, racial unease, and class differences will create tensions in tight times beyond what is already experienced, and should be anticipated.

The worry Canadians should be concerned about is one that will sneak up on them, in the days leading into the pole shift and in the two years following. Much of Canada has a low altitude, and where land lies lower than 650 to 700 feet, this will be inundated within two years due to the melting ice caps of the old poles, now under the equatorial sun. Much of Canada is low lying land, as is much of Russia. When the Earth stops rotation, water slung toward the equator will drift toward the poles, creating some inland flooding in land near the poles. After the shift, when the poles rapidly melt under the equatorial sun, melted water will move toward the point of least resistance, which may often be inland if blockages occur. In any case, if one examines the sea level of land in eastern or northern Canada, one can see that the land will not be above water when the poles have completely melted. If situated in an area due to be inundated, survivors will have to repeatedly move ahead of the encroaching water, and take care they are not trapped on an island in the process!
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CANADA

All of Canada fares well during the coming pole shift, and depending upon its altitude will fare better after the pole shift than before, due to the climate changes.
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Oregon

Oregon is within a belt along the coast that will experience subducting, the coast rising up by a thousand feet or more due to this. Other than the danger of hot earth, this is a good spot, both before and after the pole shift. The climate will become more moderate, and the elevation will be well above the rising seas. Hot earth can be guarded against if one chooses their cataclysm hide-out carefully. Humans during former cataclysms ran to safety from the winds first, as these were the first to arise. Thus they went into the valleys, the low areas, and it is here that the heat from friction in lower plates rubbing is the hottest. The legends report that those seeking shelter in valleys jumped into rivers to cool themselves, only to find the water boiling. Thus plan on a wind and firestorm shelter above the low elevations in broad valleys, and return to the valleys when the danger is past.
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I say we head north and west into northern Oregon or southern Washington.
He says the only way to survive is to head to the southern hemisphere. I really don't want to mess with those countries in a time of crisis. Not that I expect help from US government during a catastrophe.



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Northern west coast , the wind blows east so the east coast is screwed.
But marial law will probably be declared if it goes, also the new madrid will blow too if yellow stone pops, then California san Andreas fault will have big earthquakes too. Just about everyone will be screwed one way or another.
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somebody mentioned IDAHO.




Idaho

Lying to the west of the continental divide, Idaho will find itself under some compression during the coming pole shift. Mountain building will occur. Having experienced compression and the push east in the past, the rock strata in Idaho represents what has withstood this compression. Land to the east of the continental divide will be subject to this compression, and land to the west of Idaho will experience the greatest heat from the friction of subducting plates. Idaho will be pushed to the east during the shift, riding over the plains to the east. This ride will terrify its residents, but Idaho will not experience the devastation that earth movements will do to others areas to the east or west.

A guide to safety in the state is to look for recent activity, that which has occurred during the past few thousand years. Vegetation does not reveal this activity, but the age of torn rock does. Geologists in the area can also be tapped, as they know areas that have remained the same for eons, and where the surface is showing freshly torn rock. In these torn areas, prepare to settle in for the ride, that rocky hour, in any area not on the rocky hillsides, but rather on heavy soil which will act as a buffer. Idaho has outlets for heat and spewing lava trapped with the surface outlets the path of least resistance. The many hot springs and inactive caldera will become more active, and residents should maintain a distance from these outlets during the shift itself. High winds and hot dust from volcanoes in nearby states should also be guarded against. Idaho will fare better after the shift, as the climate will be more temperate.
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it might be a good idea to leave the country anyway before the government goes full tard and closes the borders for u.s. citizens. the Mexicans can still come in, you just can't leave. they will need taxpayers to stay. think about australia, new Zealand, argentina. I would have taken my own advise but I am near 70 years old, might as well die at home.
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Wyoming

Wyoming lists some of its most picturesque spots in valleys surrounded by towering cliffs or steep hills. Does the appreciative populace or visitor understand how those valleys and cliffs were formed? The eastern slope of the North American continent experiences what might be called tumbling when the Pacific shortens. Land is being pushed, but does not slide evenly over the plains, it curls under, having been caught, and snaps suddenly, when released by a break in the underlying rock. Thus, the dramatic hills. Those living in Wyoming during the shift should expect a rough ride, but if surviving, will find life afterwards relatively rewarding. Their climate will improve, the melting poles will not reach them, and the new jet stream will in all likelihood not carry volcanic dust their way.
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Washington

Washington experiences the same trauma as Oregon, but has additional problems to worry about in the nuclear reservations that their military has seen fit to place in their beautiful country. The populace lives with disease and dread already, so this is nothing new, but during the shift the violent heaving and jerking that the ground will experience will spew buried or capped waste into the air. This will shower down into a wider area than before, poisoning to some extent those living there. Those who live 30 miles from the nuclear reservations are advised that a 100 mile distance is a better buffer.
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I live on the east coast- NC mountains. Should we stay put?
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Shelter in place.
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Shelter in place is best. You have what you need and network of people you can buddy up with.

PS. When Mt Saint Helens blew its top off in 1980 the ash falling down clogged up all the cars air intake.

The best antidote was to put pantyhose around the airfilter. There wasn't a pair left in a drugstore for 200 miles. It worked. Nothing moved without it and emergency vehicles requested it for supply.
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hope that helps---- search SAFE LOCATIONS during POLE SHIFT.

Also study the North American Craton. It is separating. The continent in bowing and will snap. I would stay away from the edges of that.

Good luck.
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God will put you in the right place at the right time.
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Not really. If this was true then no one would ever die from unnatural causes.
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OP they are saying that the edges of the blast from Yellowstone erupting is approx. a 100 mile radius. There are some that say it is more than that. However, and this is a "what if"…

Lets say that Yellowstone goes boom. Will it trigger fault lines? Will it trigger the Cascadia Subduction? The New Madrid? Causing massive damage to Washington/Oregon/ California/mid Western and Southern states? The ash will most certainly blow east and travel around the globe numerous times, thus blocking out the sun and giving us the beginning of a new ice age.

I would not go east, going west, south or even extreme north, eventually it will catch up to you, regardless of where you go. So what am I saying? Yeah I think that we would all be pretty FUBAR'd if Yellowstone did go. Going south would probably be safe…but only for a while. And can you imagine EVERYONE and their mothers trying to head south? You would have to go now and start your life in the south now. You'd never make it if you tried the "day of".

Death is inevitable and one must prepare themselves for it, or at least make peace with the inevitable. Not trying to be fatalistic, just real. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have some sort of plan, having something is better than nothing. Stick to it and understand that you WILL have to adjust said plans, nothing is ever written in stone and you will have to make on the fly decisions and adjustments. Have a contingency plan for your contingency plan.

What would you do if you did go to Northern Oregon/Southern Washington and the roads are gone? You only have three main routes leading into the western states from the Boise area, 30/84, 20 and 95, all three are surrounded by Geothermal Hot Springs. Scientist, it seems like every year, keep coming out and saying that the magma chamber of Yellowstone is bigger than previously thought, and they show it going in a southwest direction. So what would you do OP? Sorry don't mean to play devils advocate OP, just making sure you are thinking about most of the major "What if's".

Good luck to you OP, hope you and your hubby get squared away on a plan.

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The best thing is to be within the inital blast radias that way you wouldn't have to worry about a thing. You would die quick without suffering. The ones that go in the inital blast are the lucky ones. My lungs are screwed to begin with I couldn't even imagine having to breathe ash for any length of time. I'd rather die quickly.
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sounds to me like you guys should go your own separate ways. do you have kids?
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hahahha!

No doubt. OP has bigger problems, namely being para-fricken-noid over a 3.5m to the point of dicosrse.
lol!

op prep much?
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Pretty much everything in about a 600 mile radius around yellowstone will be affected. Here's a map of that area:

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Just do what I did to husband when he started wigging out because we had a Category 5 hurricane coming at us. He was running around like a chicken with his head cut off. Finally, I had heard and seen enough. I went to the fridge, opened up a cold can of Bud Light (It was 5:00am in the morning) and I said, "I ain't goin' nowhere. My ass is staying right here and riding this bad boy out." He calmed down real fast and let me assume control of the situation. Needless to say, we got out safely and lived to talk about it.
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Pretty much everything in about a 600 mile radius around yellowstone will be affected. Here's a map of that area:


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Sorry, this site didn't like that link. Try this one, just scroll down page to the round pic.

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This movie is still available, for those who haven't seen it. If Yellowstone blows, that's not just one volcano eruption: it's a huge caldera. Well, we all know that here but what I'm interested in is your opinions about the resulting damage of such an occurrence on a global scale as posited here.

OP, there are other places you and spouse might move to that would not be third world shitholes and your spouse is a lunatic to think that the primitives living there would be any less dangerous to your continued well-being than volcanic ash. You are always better off among your own kind of people, whatever that be.
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Which way is the wind blowing? Seriously, it really depends on the weather pattern. If the wind if blowing from the west to the east, then go to Oregon or Washington. If it's going from east to west, then go south.

I live in Oregon and feel like I am where I am supposed to be. But I've started to 'see' signs of ashed everywhere. Call me crazy if you wish, but what I 'see' always comes true. Of course it happens when it wants and sometimes takes time and sometimes I misinterpret what I see. (Snow and ash look-alike in 1 second visions. A river of water and a 5 inch downpour with wind look exactly alike.)

We will probably get ash here in Oregon, but from which source is beyond me. St Helens? Yellowstone? Mt Hood? Crater Lake waking up? Mt Angel Abbey turning into a full volcano and not just and offshoot?

Of course, if Cascadia goes off at the same time.....

Then there is the problem of where you are going to. Do you have a family or close friends who will take you in? You really don't want to end up as refugees.
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It depends on the eruption. Yellowstone could go all at once, or it could be a series of large (St. Helens to Tambora range) occurring twice a millennium for the next 20,000 years.

Seems like Yellowstone is riddled with vents. One to three of these blowing off will cause some real unpleasantness, but no doom. Based on prevailing wind patterns, the fallout will stretch across the Great Plains and into the Midwest and Atlantic Seaboard, with varying amounts of ash-fall. Sheridan, Wyoming would get dumped on, Chicago would get dusted, and the East Coast would be hazy.

A cataclysmic eruption would be hard to escape. Even if you weren't buried outright, the results would be lower crop yields due to the ash in the atmosphere, for several years. If you live in a small, isolated community, and are self-sufficient, you will have a better chance, but the current lifestyle you are used to will be over.
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You got a place to stay if you come up here to PDX.
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Which way is the wind blowing? Seriously, it really depends on the weather pattern. If the wind if blowing from the west to the east, then go to Oregon or Washington. If it's going from east to west, then go south.

I live in Oregon and feel like I am where I am supposed to be. But I've started to 'see' signs of ashed everywhere. Call me crazy if you wish, but what I 'see' always comes true. Of course it happens when it wants and sometimes takes time and sometimes I misinterpret what I see. (Snow and ash look-alike in 1 second visions. A river of water and a 5 inch downpour with wind look exactly alike.)

We will probably get ash here in Oregon, but from which source is beyond me. St Helens? Yellowstone? Mt Hood? Crater Lake waking up? Mt Angel Abbey turning into a full volcano and not just and offshoot?

Of course, if Cascadia goes off at the same time.....

Then there is the problem of where you are going to. Do you have a family or close friends who will take you in? You really don't want to end up as refugees.
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Where in Oregon? Hood, Jefferson, Sisters, would result in ash-fall to the east based on prevailing wind patterns. When St. Helens blew, Portland could see it, but the ash fell in Yakima and Spokane, with lesser amounts in Montana. I don't think Boise got any. My uncles in Windsor remember it getting hazy for a few days after the eruption, and weather people telling them it was due to St. Helens ash. We mailed them a test tube full of the stuff, which lingered on the ground for a week until the rains washed it into the soil.
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Re: BUG OUT SCENARIO for Yellow Stone eruption "Which way do we go?" Huge fight with husband please give input!
I say we head north and west into northern Oregon or southern Washington.
He says the only way to survive is to head to the southern hemisphere. I really don't want to mess with those countries in a time of crisis. Not that I expect help from US government during a catastrophe.



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Mexicans will rob and rape you death, no question about it.
Oh you may get there, you will never survive unless you can pass for broke culo meheecano
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I say we head north and west into northern Oregon or southern Washington.
He says the only way to survive is to head to the southern hemisphere. I really don't want to mess with those countries in a time of crisis. Not that I expect help from US government during a catastrophe.



HELP! I need your .02 worth!
What is your opinion?

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Mexicans will rob and rape you death, no question about it.
Oh you may get there, you will never survive unless you can pass for broke culo meheecano
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Thanks! Weŕe about 4-5 hours from coast so I figured staying put would be best in that situation.
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OP do not worry for fear will only serve to weaken and consume you...
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Re: BUG OUT SCENARIO for Yellow Stone eruption "Which way do we go?" Huge fight with husband please give input!
this is a Super-Volcano. and my understanding is:
there will be immediate complete devastation in a 300 mile radius,
and a full one half of the U.S. population suffocated to death by volcanic ash,
and the whole Planet thrown into Global Winter for at least 3 years.

no biggie.

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