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FBI raids USA Brass in Bozeman Montana.

 
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Would not the EPA be responsible for Environmental problems
NOT the FBI?

Possibly the EPA was too busy investigating the use of DU Depleted Uranium ammunition authorized and used around the world by USA troops under Bush and Obama.

I am sure the EPA will shut down the Executive Branch of Fed Government for their illegal use of this Biological Weapon that will go on Killing People for Hundreds of Thousands of Years.
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Thread: EPA agents raid ammunition company on alleged ‘environmental violations’
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From the article:

"USA Brass cleans and resells used ammunition casings. Last fall the Gallatin City-County Health Department reported 22 people, all current or former USA Brass employees showed elevated levels of lead in their blood. In September of 2013 the US Department of Labor cited USA Brass with 10 serious violations and proposed more than $45,000 in penalties and fines.

Occupational Safety and Health Administration, OSHA, workers found the company overexposed workers to lead and failed to provide basic safeguards to reduce lead exposure, including breathing protection and protective clothing."

If true, the company needs to provide sufficient protection or it's employees. There are plenty of other (much bigger) ammo manufactures that do maintain safety standards that aren't being raided or shut down by big brother.
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Thread: The US is being brought down through LAWFARE.
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How is the request to not poison your god damn employees lawfare?
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I got a question....Where is there lead in "spent" brass casings?

I call bullsh!t!
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The FBI works for the Obama administration and Eric Holder...

I wouldn't trust one as far as I could throw one...
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So if USA Brass is being investigated for lead contamination, why isn't the US Military being investigated for depleted uranium poisoning?

Just sayin'
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Some 22 employees of the company were found to have elevated levels of lead in their blood.
OSHA recommended the company be fined.
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From the article:

"USA Brass cleans and resells used ammunition casings. Last fall the Gallatin City-County Health Department reported 22 people, all current or former USA Brass employees showed elevated levels of lead in their blood. In September of 2013 the US Department of Labor cited USA Brass with 10 serious violations and proposed more than $45,000 in penalties and fines.

Occupational Safety and Health Administration, OSHA, workers found the company overexposed workers to lead and failed to provide basic safeguards to reduce lead exposure, including breathing protection and protective clothing."

If true, the company needs to provide sufficient protection or it's employees. There are plenty of other (much bigger) ammo manufactures that do maintain safety standards that aren't being raided or shut down by big brother.
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Reminds me of the Radium Girls.

The Radium Girls were female factory workers who contracted radiation poisoning from painting watch dials with glow-in-the-dark paint at the United States Radium factory in Orange, New Jersey, around 1917. The women, who had been told the paint was harmless, ingested deadly amounts of radium by licking their paintbrushes to give them a fine point; some also painted their fingernails and teeth with the glowing substance.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Reminds me of the Radium Girls.

The Radium Girls were female factory workers who contracted radiation poisoning from painting watch dials with glow-in-the-dark paint at the United States Radium factory in Orange, New Jersey, around 1917. The women, who had been told the paint was harmless, ingested deadly amounts of radium by licking their paintbrushes to give them a fine point; some also painted their fingernails and teeth with the glowing substance.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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And Thomas Midgley, Jr., who gave us both leaded fuel that caused two generations of brain damage and retardation, especially in cities AND Chlorofluorocarbons which damaged the ozone layer.
A real over achiever.
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So if USA Brass is being investigated for lead contamination, why isn't the US Military being investigated for depleted uranium poisoning?

Just sayin'
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All of these so called raids and/or "fines" that our companies pay are warnings in disguise. All it means is that "X company" did not donate enough money to political campaigns in the last election year.

And let this be a warning to other companies in the future.

There is absolutely no company in this country that isn't corrupt and is allowed to conduct business in peace without investigations, blackmail, or some sort of lawsuit from some group based on discrimination....
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In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until after it graduates from medical school.

Goodbye sweet friend, we miss you.

Do you realize that in about forty years, we'll have millions of old ladies and old men running around with tattoos and piercings? Ew...
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I think they also need to 'investigate' these companies as well since there is OBVIOUSLY danger to these employees as well, right?

[link to americanbrass.com]

[link to rotaxmetals.net]

[link to www.crescentco.com]

[link to www.globalsources.com]
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These companies need to hire private security to deal with this bullshit at the front gate, and start treating the criminals like criminals.
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Big gov likes to use them too.
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Exactly, if you think private security is better than law enforcement you're wrong. My boss is ex DEA. He owns the company and at times they do some fucked up shit including lawsuits and beatings.
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What's next? The health department?
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Under 0bammy, the EPA has essentially been given a promotion to "National Health Department", and they sure are acting like it...
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The FBI works for the Obama administration and Eric Holder...

I wouldn't trust one as far as I could throw one...
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I wouldn't trust the FBI as far as a could fart an agent off a golf tee...

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YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period.
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i suggest every gun owner in montana go there now and let them examine their guns...the inside of the barrels that is as feds wont get to see anything other part of them. i'm not saying shoot, i'm saying when everyone stands up for their neighbor, the message will be loud and clear.

this will keep on happening only until the people dont allow it--passive aggressivly.

but don't listen to me---i dont own guns---i just have a big mouth and a good keyboard.
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What's next? The health department?
 Quoting: Poe's Dead Girlfriend


Under 0bammy, the EPA has essentially been given a promotion to "National Health Department", and they sure are acting like it...
 Quoting: BattlesightZero


National Health Gestapo <<<< fixed it for you...
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Another day with absolutely no plans to use calculus.

In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until after it graduates from medical school.

Goodbye sweet friend, we miss you.

Do you realize that in about forty years, we'll have millions of old ladies and old men running around with tattoos and piercings? Ew...
davvi
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The FBI works for the Obama administration and Eric Holder...

I wouldn't trust one as far as I could throw one...
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I wouldn't trust the FBI as far as a could fart an agent off a golf tee...

kaleigh
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I don't trust anyone who works for the government anymore. They vote against this country and in their own self-interest now. They actually vote to take money out of their neighbors wallet in the form of raises for themselves...

How can anyone trust them?
A Jewish mother dreams that her son will grow up to be a doctor or, if retarded, a lawyer." --Jackie Mason

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Another day with absolutely no plans to use calculus.

In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until after it graduates from medical school.

Goodbye sweet friend, we miss you.

Do you realize that in about forty years, we'll have millions of old ladies and old men running around with tattoos and piercings? Ew...
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The FBI works for the Obama administration and Eric Holder...

I wouldn't trust one as far as I could throw one...
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I wouldn't trust the FBI as far as a could fart an agent off a golf tee...

:kaleigh:
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Not a good way for what should be a sweet child to behave. sad
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This folks, is how they eat the proverbial elephant called 2nd amendment, one bite at a time till there aint no more.

One invisible bite at a time...nom nom nom.....Poof, no more bullets,chemicals, powder, nitrate, no more self-defense.

No more resistance

No more freedom
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HANDLING lead does not affect one's health adversely. Lead concentrating in one's bloodstream is what causes health problems.

To get lead into your bloodstream, you must either eat it, or breathe in large quantities of lead dust. Lead dust comes from dried out car batteries. I have breathed my fare share of it from handling batteries at the recycling center where I work. It leaves a sweet taste in the back of my throat. I have never breathed in enough of it to make me sick, nor have I ever had an adverse reaction to handling lead. I could lick my hands afterwards if I wanted to and not be capable of ingesting enough lead residue to even register.

The minute traces of lead that may or may not be found to be present in spent ammunition cases is not capable of causing any such problem as the "authorities" are alluding to.

This is a blatant attack on brass casing supply, using the already existing attack on lead as a justification.

One lie procreating further lies.

And no, you very obviously will not find big brother attacking the companies that are supplying the ammunition for the vast array of federal agency contracts.

Until those contracts are filled, that is.
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Jesus fucking christ I worry about the world when there are people this fucking stupid in it.

Yeah buddy, lead is bad for you. You can prove me and all of science wrong though by going and eating a little bit every day!

And for the record, a potential employee will not choose to work in a different environment when their employer hides safety issues and lies to their employees, because they won't fucking know they're being poisoned.
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*blood returns*

phew, got a little light headed there.

Was @
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[link to www.nbcmontana.com]

The FBI raided Bozeman based USA Brass Thursday morning. We were tipped off by a viewer who told us federal agents were on scene by 9a.m. Throughout the morning we saw agents from the FBI, EPA Criminal Division, and Bozeman Police come and go from the Bozeman business.

Around 12:30 p.m. Agent Bert Marsden identified himself as the resident agent in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency's Criminal Division in Montana. He told NBC Montana agents were expected on scene through the evening, and gave a short statement about the investigation.

"We are investigating alleged violations of environmental law. An investigation takes as long as it takes, and I can't provide any details as it relates to that," said Marsden.
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This country is starting to suck real bad.

I do not know how much more the American people can take.

I am almost to the point where we need to stand up to these government thugs.

We need hundreds of thousands of citizens to make their voices heard and march on Washington.

We need hundred of thousands to march with their weapons in a show of solidarity to the Constitution.

If we had this many people march on Washington I would be they would shit in their pants.
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I got a question....Where is there lead in "spent" brass casings?

I call bullsh!t!
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The residue on spent brass is a combination of carbon and lead. Ask any reloader. That's why you sort brass outdoors or with good ventilation, and dump your cleaning media outdoors. All the grey dust from the case cleaner is the same residue.
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If their were closer to me, I'd say grab your guns boys. Let shoot us some Feds!
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yep.


Let me guess they make bullet casings?
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Yep.

If they can't get the guns, they'll go after the ammo
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If their were closer to me, I'd say grab your guns boys. Let shoot us some Feds!
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If their were closer to me, I'd say grab your guns boys. Let shoot us some Feds!
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hunter
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They push the gun nuts too far and they'll be sniper and bombing hits on FBI offices where these armed feds work out of. The best defense is THE strongest offense. Don't underestimate those gun nuts.

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