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If you are a Veteran be prepared for a gun grab at your expense!

 
Nostril Domus
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If you are a Veteran be prepared for a gun grab at your expense!
The latest shooting at Ft.Hood will go down as the first step towards having your Medical/Psychiatric records combed through. You will be denied a permit to carry and or purchase firearms.

They gave us weapons and the training to use them, but when we return home we are treated as bottom of the barrel Rift Raff. The Govt would rather spend 100s of millions of dollars giving the poor healthcare but let the average combat vet fend for himself. Instead of cramming Ocare up our ass, how about stop cutting funding for the Military and VA.

I have battled PTSD for 5 years now, it is not something i wanted nor something i can just make go away. I am not taking up for this guy that did the shooting as i don't know the whole story. But if is discovered that he should not have been sold a firearm due to mental issues this will not end well for the Pro 2A guys like myself.

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They are after more than just veterans guns I'm afraid.

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They are after more than just veterans guns I'm afraid.

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They are after more than just veterans guns I'm afraid.

Stay Safe.
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It will start there.. This is the excuse they need.
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They are after more than just veterans guns I'm afraid.

Stay Safe.
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Thanks for the hug! I swear i could feel it.
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04/03/2014 02:32 AM
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I think that must be what this one is about.
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04/03/2014 02:52 AM
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Not taking my guns. I don't care if there is a school shooting in every town in America. Never taking my shit without a fight to the death. That's just the way it is. Government is no different than some thug negro on the street. Step to my door and you get the blast.
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They know that the majority of military members will never do their bidding so they are an enemy to be dealt with. Disarming them is just the beginning.
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Not taking my guns. I don't care if there is a school shooting in every town in America. Never taking my shit without a fight to the death. That's just the way it is. Government is no different than some thug negro on the street. Step to my door and you get the blast.
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To take our guns will be suicide. Some people are not going to wait for them to knock on their doors. They will become proactive and start shooting at anything that looks like a gun grabbing lawmaker and anyone who would enforce the laws. If we wait till they come to the door we have lost.
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Not likely. I'm sure some of them would like to take away their 2a rights, along with everyone else's. It wont happen as a result of this. Not many of them have any interest in kicking the gun control hornet's nest in an election year. That said, I think there will be more calls to allow soldiers to carry firearms on base. I'm not sure that will happen, either.
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That won't be happening. Us Veterans can and will mobilize quickly.

Nuff said.

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04/03/2014 09:51 AM
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When this story of the shooting first broke on national news, one the first things they talked about was stress and "mental health" and the military.

So yeah, they'll use this.

Whenever you hear MSM and or TPTB mention "mental health" you know something is up. They could care less about your mental health. They want to take something fro you. For you, and the collective's own good of course.
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Not taking my guns. I don't care if there is a school shooting in every town in America. Never taking my shit without a fight to the death. That's just the way it is. Government is no different than some thug negro on the street. Step to my door and you get the blast.
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damned
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After watching the video of the jar heads taking this guys upside down flag during the APD New Mexico protests a few days ago I'm ok with vets with PTSD not having guns. These jarheads just ran up and took this guys upside down flag off his womanly moped. Freedom of speech and this country is screwed, I think it's ok to fly a flag upside down now.
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Guns don't kill people.
People on antidepressants kill people.
Think of this- what if the government is actually inserting some wind warp technology into these antidepressants to make people kill each other? All they have to do is put this technology into a single pill, and it doesn't matter who they give it to- child, woman, soldier- that person will go on a killing rampage. Bet they can do it, and wouldn't put it past them.
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They know that the majority of military members will never do their bidding so they are an enemy to be dealt with. Disarming them is just the beginning.
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^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!!! I just wish I had the shesright smiley.
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They know that the majority of military members will never do their bidding so they are an enemy to be dealt with. Disarming them is just the beginning.
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^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!!! I just wish I had the shesright smiley.
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Well lookey there! I DO have access to it! Good to know.
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After watching the video of the jar heads taking this guys upside down flag during the APD New Mexico protests a few days ago I'm ok with vets with PTSD not having guns. These jarheads just ran up and took this guys upside down flag off his womanly moped. Freedom of speech and this country is screwed, I think it's ok to fly a flag upside down now.
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I think we should fly you upside down. Those "Jar Heads" fought hard to keep that flag flying, as well as all of the Soldiers, and Sailors.
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They are after more than just veterans guns I'm afraid.

Stay Safe.
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Thanks for the hug! I swear i could feel it.
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Nostril Domus I truly meant it. We love you for your service.

We have to be there for each other.hf
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How come none of the millions of WWII vets came back shooting up the country with "PTSD"? They surely went through alot more stress than soldiers do today.
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That won't be happening. Us Veterans can and will mobilize quickly.

Nuff said.

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maybe, if they get sober long enough.
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How come none of the millions of WWII vets came back shooting up the country with "PTSD"? They surely went through alot more stress than soldiers do today.
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because they believed in the cause then.
Now, its about lies and a paycheck, ONLY.
Having been lied to is depressing, having been a liar is even more depressing.
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Glad I took my medical records when I separated. Hell, I even have my service record. :)
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The latest shooting at Ft.Hood will go down as the first step towards having your Medical/Psychiatric records combed through. You will be denied a permit to carry and or purchase firearms.

They gave us weapons and the training to use them, but when we return home we are treated as bottom of the barrel Rift Raff. The Govt would rather spend 100s of millions of dollars giving the poor healthcare but let the average combat vet fend for himself. Instead of cramming Ocare up our ass, how about stop cutting funding for the Military and VA.

I have battled PTSD for 5 years now, it is not something i wanted nor something i can just make go away. I am not taking up for this guy that did the shooting as i don't know the whole story. But if is discovered that he should not have been sold a firearm due to mental issues this will not end well for the Pro 2A guys like myself.

rant
 Quoting: Nostril Domus


^^^^^
Completely agree. I am a 23year retired Vet. When I enlisted in the very early 80s there was such a thing as Guard Duty and SOG. There were soldiers that were assigned to areas on post such as Hospitals, PX, etc basically any high traffic area who were armed for the safety and protection of the post. They were a great deterrent. Nothing like going into a facility having to pass a Soldier armed with a M16 locked and loaded.
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Glad I took my medical records when I separated. Hell, I even have my service record. :)
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You have a copy of your records, not the original. Do you really think they don't have any information on you? Hah!
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How come none of the millions of WWII vets came back shooting up the country with "PTSD"? They surely went through alot more stress than soldiers do today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10485561


because they believed in the cause then.
Now, its about lies and a paycheck, ONLY.
Having been lied to is depressing, having been a liar is even more depressing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29285805


Have you ever sat down and talked with a WW2 vet? What they went through was far worse than anything i could have ever imagined in War.

They suffer from it as well, back then they did not know what PTSD was but still a lot of them had it and some still have it. They had suicides just like we do now. Most of them just hit the bottle or weed for control of their emotions.
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The latest shooting at Ft.Hood will go down as the first step towards having your Medical/Psychiatric records combed through. You will be denied a permit to carry and or purchase firearms.

They gave us weapons and the training to use them, but when we return home we are treated as bottom of the barrel Rift Raff. The Govt would rather spend 100s of millions of dollars giving the poor healthcare but let the average combat vet fend for himself. Instead of cramming Ocare up our ass, how about stop cutting funding for the Military and VA.

I have battled PTSD for 5 years now, it is not something i wanted nor something i can just make go away. I am not taking up for this guy that did the shooting as i don't know the whole story. But if is discovered that he should not have been sold a firearm due to mental issues this will not end well for the Pro 2A guys like myself.

rant
 Quoting: Nostril Domus


^^^^^
Completely agree. I am a 23year retired Vet. When I enlisted in the very early 80s there was such a thing as Guard Duty and SOG. There were soldiers that were assigned to areas on post such as Hospitals, PX, etc basically any high traffic area who were armed for the safety and protection of the post. They were a great deterrent. Nothing like going into a facility having to pass a Soldier armed with a M16 locked and loaded.
 Quoting: Derek 51353835


Well that was back when we had a good Commander in Chief. Fast forward to today and all of the bases are open except for the front gates, no armed guards anywhere. MP's are off chasing tail and giving Joe a jaywalking ticket.
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How come none of the millions of WWII vets came back shooting up the country with "PTSD"? They surely went through alot more stress than soldiers do today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10485561


because they believed in the cause then.
Now, its about lies and a paycheck, ONLY.
Having been lied to is depressing, having been a liar is even more depressing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29285805


Have you ever sat down and talked with a WW2 vet? What they went through was far worse than anything i could have ever imagined in War.

They suffer from it as well, back then they did not know what PTSD was but still a lot of them had it and some still have it. They had suicides just like we do now. Most of them just hit the bottle or weed for control of their emotions.
 Quoting: Nostril Domus


Yeah, and most of them didn't have to wait a fucking year to see a fucking VA Dr. Now, they have to wait because our government is too fucking busy buy $400,000 dollar fucking Islamic camels.

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