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STILL DONT BELIEVE THAT ESAU IS RUNNING THE WORLD RIGHT NOW...FOLLOW THE TRAIL BACK INTO JERUSALEM

 
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I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY BUT A FRIEND AND ONE DAY YOU WILL THANK ME FOR THIS.


Esau said to his father, "Do you have only one blessing, my father? Bless me, even me also, O my father." So Esau lifted his voice and wept.

39Then Isaac his father answered and said to him, "Behold, your dwelling shall be the riches of the earth, And away from the dew of heaven from above.

u]40"By your sword you shall live, And your brother you shall serve; But it shall come about when you become restless, That you will break his yoke from your neck."


From that day on Esau hated his brother Jacob. “One day, my father will die,” he said, “And then I will kill my brother Jacob!”


Ancient biblical map

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THE OLDER BOOKS USE TO HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION BUT OVER THE YEARS THEY STARTED FILTERING OUT THE TRUTH PRODUCING UPDATED EDITIONS. WHEN THEY REALIZED THAT THE MINORITIES WERE NOW BEING EDUCATED AT HIGHER LEVELS THIS WAS A THREAT TO THEIR KINGDOM

THE BOOK OF THE WARS OF GOD/JASHER
1 And when the year came round, being the seventy-second year from the Yisraelites going down to Egypt, after the death of Yoseph, Zepho, the son of Eliphaz, the son of Esau, fled from Egypt, he and his men, and they went away


MAP KNOWN TO THE ANCIENT HEBREWS.THE AREAS IN PINK ARE THE LANDS OF THE WEST JAPHETS DOMAIN. YOU WILL SEE TUBAL KITTIM CHITTIM MAGOG GREECIA ROMA ALL THE AREAS ESAU SEED ZEPHO CONTROLLED AND RAISED UP HIS SEED
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24 And the children of Chittim [Greece] saw the valor of Zepho, and the children of Chittim resolved and they made Zepho king over them, and he became king over them, and while he reigned they went to subdue the children of Tubal, and all the surrounding islands.

25 And their king Zepho went at their head and they made war with Tubal and the islands, and they subdued them, and when they returned from the battle they renewed his government for him, and they built for him a very large palace for his royal habitation and seat, and they made a large throne for him, and Zepho reigned over the whole land of Chittim[GREECE] and over the land of Italia[ROME] fifty years.

BKMKK

THE OFFSPRING OF ZEPHO ESAU'S BLOODLINE GOING BACK TO ISRAEL

When Greece went back into Israel it was Esau coming back home to avenge his loss and conquer jacob

When Rome came into Jerusalem in 70 ad again it was Esau trying to establish his place


Well he was sucessful by getting back his role as the older brother and now jacob is serving him alll over the world..Essau was promised the fatness of the earth so he is rich and greedy

KDFFEEFR


The bible describes Esau as building their high towers and naming every land they conquer after their own name. Their symbol is the eagle and please do not say it just America, all european countries symbolizes the eagle,These are clues and facts people arise!!



The men stitting in Israel are Edomites impersonating Israel the true people.Since in Jermiah times they been filtering strangers replacing the 10 tribes through out the whole of Samaria, all foreigners from different nations.On Pentecost there were men from every province converts living in judea. King of Israel Herod was Jewish but he was Roman Edomite.

The Sadducees and Pharasees majority were foreigners who ilfultrated the temple after executing the true hebrew temple keepers.They kept a couple around to teach them the process,why is it Christ called them murderers and thieves and reminded them they are of the devil.

WHY CHRIST BLASTED AND CURSED THESE DEMONIC MEN OF ESAU


I will prove this comment because it is important , in Hebrew law it is not lawful to curse the elohim/god meaning the ones to whom the word of God was given to.

Christ cursed these men who say they were Godly because he knew they were imposters in his fathers house..

EXODUS 22:28
Thou shalt not speake euell of the goddes,
and the ruler of thy people shall thou not
blaspheme.


Christ said Is it not written in your law I called you gods to whom the word was given?{John Chp 10:33} this meant that the teachers and prophets of old were called elohim/gods.

NOW YOU GET IT? THESE MEN WERE NOT THE FATHERS CHOSEN BUT IMPOSTERS THAT IS WHY HE CURSED THEM AND REBUKED THEM

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BNFGERFR
I AM WARNING YOU NEIM TO HUSH YOUR MOUTH!

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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They are heading all false religious systems teaching you to disobey the true God of Israel....

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Pope Francis welcomed an inter-religious group from Argentina made up of 15 Jews, 15 Muslims and 15 Christians. They were on their way back from a pilgrimage to the Holy Land.




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GOAL: ONE WORLD RELIGION


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Saul did a poor job in disobeying the command of God to take out AMALEK,his seed eventually survived and infiltrated Israel over centuries establishing themselves in the SANHEDRIN and became key political figures

Look on this map you will see Edom right on the tip of land like a tongue in the red sea.This in the vicinity of Jerusalem close to Mizraim.This is how AMALEK WAS ABLE TO PERSUE iSRAEL
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According to the Book of Genesis and 1 Chronicles, Amalek was the son of Eliphaz, the grandson the Biblical figure Esau/Edom the twin brother of the same parents of Jacob/Israel in the Bible, and of the concubine Timna. Timna was a Horite and sister of Lotan. Amalek was the grandson of Esau (Gen. 36:12; 1 Chr. 1:36) who was the chief of an Edomite tribe (Gen. 36:16).


2 Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Who is Esau and why should he be running this world
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get familiar with the history of jacob and esau


Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/03/2014 03:36 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Who is Esau and why should he be running this world
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get familiar with the history of jacob and esau
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The histories of Jacob and Esau are even more made up than the one of Jesus Christ.

The Old Testament is a horror story. Ancient Greek mythology is literally a bedtime story for the most gentile of souls compared to this horrific pile of crap.
The Jewish God is a sadistic, insecure, jealous, vindictive psychopath. A real role model.
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who is the true God of Israel and how do we obey him?
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who is the true God of Israel and how do we obey him?
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start with genesis..then the book of enoch...after the book of enoch.continue to the book of exodus.Meanwhile pray and ask for wisdom and understanding that you may see the light
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Why display the Russian crest? The Romanov's?

the two headed eagle with 3 crowns.
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Who is Esau and why should he be running this world
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get familiar with the history of jacob and esau
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why on earth would I spend time attempting to do that with the other fucked up old bullshit? Has exactly no relevance to today at all.. get out of your past all of you engage in this bs and grow up into the NOW.
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If you understood what was happening, you'd realize that we've been fighting the same never-ending war that has raged since ancient times. That original war never ended and is still raging but will all soon be over. To know your future, you must know the past.

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A great change of the Ages is coming!!!
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By swaying the minds of minorities to adopt these "lost books", all that you are doing is sending them straight back into endless fights on geneologies and 'Jewish' myths - things that we are commanded to have nothing to do with anymore. By doing what you are doing you are swaying people to judge by appearances and reject the counsel given to us - judge nothing before receiving discernment from above.
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By swaying the minds of minorities to adopt these "lost books", all that you are doing is sending them straight back into endless fights on geneologies and 'Jewish' myths - things that we are commanded to have nothing to do with anymore. By doing what you are doing you are swaying people to judge by appearances and reject the counsel given to us - judge nothing before receiving discernment from above.
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Who has commanded?

Serious question, because if it was by the controllers, you were deceived.
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Who is Esau and why should he be running this world
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get familiar with the history of jacob and esau
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why on earth would I spend time attempting to do that with the other fucked up old bullshit? Has exactly no relevance to today at all.. get out of your past all of you engage in this bs and grow up into the NOW.
 Quoting: Abinadi


If you understood what was happening, you'd realize that we've been fighting the same never-ending war that has raged since ancient times. That original war never ended and is still raging but will all soon be over. To know your future, you must know the past.

hf
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^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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By swaying the minds of minorities to adopt these "lost books", all that you are doing is sending them straight back into endless fights on geneologies and 'Jewish' myths - things that we are commanded to have nothing to do with anymore. By doing what you are doing you are swaying people to judge by appearances and reject the counsel given to us - judge nothing before receiving discernment from above.
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WHY YOUR PASTOR TOLD YOU THAT?

THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT GENEOLOGIES ..IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IT TRACES BACK CHRIST GENEOLOGY AND MANY OF THE THE APOSTLES Mary Zecharia Elizabeth Paul

The reason is that the historical scrolls and books were taken out the bible for that reason but when you put then together with the bible you see the bigger picture and expose their lies.

The book of jasher and enoch are mentioned in your bible and was used by Christ and the Prophets even the apostles..Do you want me to prove this? I have all day

The old testament showed you the geneology of all these great men so get with the program.If you want to argue about this then Paul warned against disputing about geneology.I am not arguing but presenting facts

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/03/2014 09:50 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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By swaying the minds of minorities to adopt these "lost books", all that you are doing is sending them straight back into endless fights on geneologies and 'Jewish' myths - things that we are commanded to have nothing to do with anymore. By doing what you are doing you are swaying people to judge by appearances and reject the counsel given to us - judge nothing before receiving discernment from above.
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WHY YOUR PASTOR TOLD YOU THAT?

THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT GENEOLOGIES ..IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IT TRACES BACK CHRIST GENEOLOGY AND MANY OF THE THE APOSTLES Mary Zecharia Elizabeth Paul

The reason is that the historical scrolls and books were taken out the bible for that reason but when you put then together with the bible you see the bigger picture and expose their lies.

The book of jasher and enoch are mentioned in your bible and was used by Christ and the Prophets even the apostles..Do you want me to prove this? I have all day

The old testament showed you the geneology of all these great men so get with the program.If you want to argue about this then Paul warned against disputing about geneology.I am not arguing but presenting facts
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You will find a lot of people here like to argue. I believe many argue just to have an argument even if they are wrong.

Look past most of the bull crap. The few who are just do read.

thanks I get it
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By swaying the minds of minorities to adopt these "lost books", all that you are doing is sending them straight back into endless fights on geneologies and 'Jewish' myths - things that we are commanded to have nothing to do with anymore. By doing what you are doing you are swaying people to judge by appearances and reject the counsel given to us - judge nothing before receiving discernment from above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56385252


WHY YOUR PASTOR TOLD YOU THAT?

THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT GENEOLOGIES ..IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IT TRACES BACK CHRIST GENEOLOGY AND MANY OF THE THE APOSTLES Mary Zecharia Elizabeth Paul

The reason is that the historical scrolls and books were taken out the bible for that reason but when you put then together with the bible you see the bigger picture and expose their lies.

The book of jasher and enoch are mentioned in your bible and was used by Christ and the Prophets even the apostles..Do you want me to prove this? I have all day

The old testament showed you the geneology of all these great men so get with the program.If you want to argue about this then Paul warned against disputing about geneology.I am not arguing but presenting facts
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You will find a lot of people here like to argue. I believe many argue just to have an argument even if they are wrong.

Look past most of the bull crap. The few who are just do read.

thanks I get it
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Yep they do not read they just glimpse and get defensive and in their writings you see the prejudice..Why will he call a people minority? That is the biggest insult to any people especially here in america..That is all a modern term for slave or peasant
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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As usual you have some truth mixed in with lies. I wonder if you will ban, as usual, because you cannot refute the truth.



The subversion of Jacob from within continues to this day.
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see you back with your garbage ROBERTbanbutton
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I am confused.

Jacob stole the blessing from Esau, through lies and manipulation aided by his mother, thereby dishonoring his father Issac.

Jacob after marrying the 2 sisters, and working for his father in law, took over his father in laws herds. He told the in law he would give him all the pure marked animals, and he would take the less desired spreckled ones, but then he learned how to breed them to be all spreckled, so he stole his father in laws herds.

Christ said we will know them by their fruit...explain how he is the 'true heir' after he stole his positions in life?

I just don't understand this Jacob/Esau, who is the rightful heir?
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[link to christogenea.org]
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[link to catholiclight.stblogs.org]

Something about Catherine the Great.....it seems she had a child with the Living God.


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I am confused.

Jacob stole the blessing from Esau, through lies and manipulation aided by his mother, thereby dishonoring his father Issac.

Jacob after marrying the 2 sisters, and working for his father in law, took over his father in laws herds. He told the in law he would give him all the pure marked animals, and he would take the less desired spreckled ones, but then he learned how to breed them to be all spreckled, so he stole his father in laws herds.

Christ said we will know them by their fruit...explain how he is the 'true heir' after he stole his positions in life?

I just don't understand this Jacob/Esau, who is the rightful heir?
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In a nutshell his mother was given a vision by God that Jacob was the right one so she acted her part in fulfilling the prophecy.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Who is Esau and why should he be running this world
 Quoting: Abinadi


get familiar with the history of jacob and esau
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


The histories of Jacob and Esau are even more made up than the one of Jesus Christ.

The Old Testament is a horror story. Ancient Greek mythology is literally a bedtime story for the most gentile of souls compared to this horrific pile of crap.
The Jewish God is a sadistic, insecure, jealous, vindictive psychopath. A real role model.
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Cant tell God from Satan. These psychopaths murdered at least 20 million in Russia in the last century. God said they are murderers and God is the arsehole. Fecal matter for brains there Danski
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Book of Esther

The King promoted Haman over the princes. Haman was the one who hated the Jews. Haman can be traced back to Esau's line. He was integral in trying to get them killed.
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Why not be a man and post with your real account instaed of AC .. You just logged in to call me NAGGER in my karma..

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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[link to catholiclight.stblogs.org]

Something about Catherine the Great.....it seems she had a child with the Living God.


Thoughts?
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i did some extensive research and she kept out a certain wild warring group. the op is correct about some of his research. however this marauding disliked group have married into many of the people
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Why not be a man and post with your real account instaed of AC .. You just logged in to call me NAGGER in my karma..

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There are some nasty pricks trolling GLP these days. Especially when it deals with religion.
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By swaying the minds of minorities to adopt these "lost books", all that you are doing is sending them straight back into endless fights on geneologies and 'Jewish' myths - things that we are commanded to have nothing to do with anymore. By doing what you are doing you are swaying people to judge by appearances and reject the counsel given to us - judge nothing before receiving discernment from above.
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WHY YOUR PASTOR TOLD YOU THAT?

THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT GENEOLOGIES ..IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IT TRACES BACK CHRIST GENEOLOGY AND MANY OF THE THE APOSTLES Mary Zecharia Elizabeth Paul

The reason is that the historical scrolls and books were taken out the bible for that reason but when you put then together with the bible you see the bigger picture and expose their lies.

The book of jasher and enoch are mentioned in your bible and was used by Christ and the Prophets even the apostles..Do you want me to prove this? I have all day

The old testament showed you the geneology of all these great men so get with the program.If you want to argue about this then Paul warned against disputing about geneology.I am not arguing but presenting facts
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Respectfully, the person may be trying to say that you are making it about race. The LORD does not look at the outside, but searches the HEART.
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I am confused.

Jacob stole the blessing from Esau, through lies and manipulation aided by his mother, thereby dishonoring his father Issac.

Jacob after marrying the 2 sisters, and working for his father in law, took over his father in laws herds. He told the in law he would give him all the pure marked animals, and he would take the less desired spreckled ones, but then he learned how to breed them to be all spreckled, so he stole his father in laws herds.

Christ said we will know them by their fruit...explain how he is the 'true heir' after he stole his positions in life?

I just don't understand this Jacob/Esau, who is the rightful heir?
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In a nutshell his mother was given a vision by God that Jacob was the right one so she acted her part in fulfilling the prophecy.
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If the man is the leader of the home, why wouldn't God have given Isaac the vision, and then he would have simply broken tradition to those around him, but it would have been done in forthrightness and truth.

The fact that the mother had the vision, and persuaded her son to follow her(2nd in home command) makes me wonder if the god that gave her such a vision, wasn't the 'g'od of this world, the deceiver, the counterfeiter, communicating his deceptive will upon her.

I am truly pondering all of this. Scriptures state the whole world has been deceived, and the whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one.

Christ said 'they worship what they do not know'.

I am seeking. Thank you for your patience with me.
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By swaying the minds of minorities to adopt these "lost books", all that you are doing is sending them straight back into endless fights on geneologies and 'Jewish' myths - things that we are commanded to have nothing to do with anymore. By doing what you are doing you are swaying people to judge by appearances and reject the counsel given to us - judge nothing before receiving discernment from above.
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WHY YOUR PASTOR TOLD YOU THAT?

THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT GENEOLOGIES ..IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IT TRACES BACK CHRIST GENEOLOGY AND MANY OF THE THE APOSTLES Mary Zecharia Elizabeth Paul

The reason is that the historical scrolls and books were taken out the bible for that reason but when you put then together with the bible you see the bigger picture and expose their lies.

The book of jasher and enoch are mentioned in your bible and was used by Christ and the Prophets even the apostles..Do you want me to prove this? I have all day

The old testament showed you the geneology of all these great men so get with the program.If you want to argue about this then Paul warned against disputing about geneology.I am not arguing but presenting facts
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Respectfully, the person may be trying to say that you are making it about race. The LORD does not look at the outside, but searches the HEART.
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That is the way you all look at it because you been in system that upholds this..Christ warned us aboout this and it happened in his time we see it in history ..who were destroying his people ? romans and the greeks and they are established today..The prophecy is the revised roman empire...how runs these organizations? me

The truth is open but people do not like to talk about it..I do not care which race or whom but if you are the guilty party and it points to you then that is the way it will be
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I am confused.

Jacob stole the blessing from Esau, through lies and manipulation aided by his mother, thereby dishonoring his father Issac.

Jacob after marrying the 2 sisters, and working for his father in law, took over his father in laws herds. He told the in law he would give him all the pure marked animals, and he would take the less desired spreckled ones, but then he learned how to breed them to be all spreckled, so he stole his father in laws herds.

Christ said we will know them by their fruit...explain how he is the 'true heir' after he stole his positions in life?

I just don't understand this Jacob/Esau, who is the rightful heir?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56358403


In a nutshell his mother was given a vision by God that Jacob was the right one so she acted her part in fulfilling the prophecy.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


If the man is the leader of the home, why wouldn't God have given Isaac the vision, and then he would have simply broken tradition to those around him, but it would have been done in forthrightness and truth.

The fact that the mother had the vision, and persuaded her son to follow her(2nd in home command) makes me wonder if the god that gave her such a vision, wasn't the 'g'od of this world, the deceiver, the counterfeiter, communicating his deceptive will upon her.

I am truly pondering all of this. Scriptures state the whole world has been deceived, and the whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one.

Christ said 'they worship what they do not know'.

I am seeking. Thank you for your patience with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56358403

Isaac was about to make a decision based on his own emotions and love for Esau but not what God planned so God used the mother to perfect his paln

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Did you delete my post abouti "living by the sword"????

Living by "speaking".

Goliath had a sword. David "came in the name of the LORD"

"Blessed is he who COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD"

Esau lives by speaking.

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