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E.M.

could this show a different kind of "POP" signal?

12:35 UTC

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I am TOTALLY convinced that the signal is coming from Atmospheric energy above the park...which is highly charged at this time.

Just the Auroras I noted on the fly could then be seen to correlate closely to traces on space monitors...


...just as the series from this morning do.

These POPS are most likely discharges of energy in relation to sudden 'charging' from such forces.

Could they cause EQ's? Studies seem to indicate that these EARTH/SOLAR forces are closely related.

Are they being looked at in the Park? This I do not know...except they we ARE seeing it.

I know I am not a geologist or any other scientist, but I can read in black, white AND GREY.


Consider this.

If I walk across a rug on a cold winter day, and you are doing the same, when we meet to shake hands, we might each got shocked.

If we DON"T TOUCH...this does not mean we are not charged with static electricity, it just means we have not MET to discharge each other.

This was the Auroras I witnessed, and, the POP/PULSE seen on the helicorders.

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E.M.

could this show a different kind of "POP" signal?

12:35 UTC

[link to quake.utah.edu]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17531086


I am TOTALLY convinced that the signal is coming from Atmospheric energy above the park...which is highly charged at this time.

Just the Auroras I noted on the fly could then be seen to correlate closely to traces on space monitors...


...just as the series from this morning do.

These POPS are most likely discharges of energy in relation to sudden 'charging' from such forces.

Could they cause EQ's? Studies seem to indicate that these EARTH/SOLAR forces are closely related.

Are they being looked at in the Park? This I do not know...except they we ARE seeing it.

I know I am not a geologist or any other scientist, but I can read in black, white AND GREY.
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E.M.

there was quite a few "POPS" right before the helicorders went bonkers

I'll lose my TV satellite signal during heavy sunspot activity

difference at 12:35 UTC signals are

that one Shows up as a "POP" the other one is recorded as a seismic signature
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Quoting from another thread ( Thread: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up (Page 42) ):

Watch this timelapse from yesterday at Electric Peak.

Switch it to fullscreen, 480p and don't skip till you've seen what happens to the entire landscape after 1 min 20 secs into the video.

My own eyes don't know how to comprehend what is happening...



Ideas?
 Quoting: AllThatCanBe


i remember when e19 was erupting in Iceland, the cams were making that same wobbly motion, much more pronounced obviously, but I think it's an electromagnetic effect from the nearness of the magma to the cam
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This could very well be why it's doing that... After all, it's called "ELECTRIC Peak" for a reason. Lots of strange atmosphere there, because of what's beneath it!

Dare I coin a new word for convenience? Because I'd propose that what's happening at Electric Peak is: "ElectroMAGMAtism".

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E.M.

could this show a different kind of "POP" signal?

12:35 UTC

[link to quake.utah.edu]

[link to quake.utah.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17531086


I am TOTALLY convinced that the signal is coming from Atmospheric energy above the park...which is highly charged at this time.

Just the Auroras I noted on the fly could then be seen to correlate closely to traces on space monitors...


...just as the series from this morning do.

These POPS are most likely discharges of energy in relation to sudden 'charging' from such forces.

Could they cause EQ's? Studies seem to indicate that these EARTH/SOLAR forces are closely related.

Are they being looked at in the Park? This I do not know...except they we ARE seeing it.

I know I am not a geologist or any other scientist, but I can read in black, white AND GREY.


Consider this.

If I walk across a rug on a cold winter day, and you are doing the same, when we meet to shake hands, we might each got shocked.

If we DON"T TOUCH...this does not mean we are not charged with static electricity, it just means we have not MET to discharge each other.

This was the Auroras I witnessed, and, the POP/PULSE seen on the helicorders.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


The seismos transmit the data via radio.
Solar flares interfere with radio.
The last x-flare caused a radio comms blackout iirc.
The most likely explanation there is the solar flare x-rays are causing telemetry errors that lokk like spikes on the graphs, although I keep an open mind.
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09:27 EQ recorded here

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E.M.

could this show a different kind of "POP" signal?

12:35 UTC

[link to quake.utah.edu]

[link to quake.utah.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17531086


I am TOTALLY convinced that the signal is coming from Atmospheric energy above the park...which is highly charged at this time.

Just the Auroras I noted on the fly could then be seen to correlate closely to traces on space monitors...


...just as the series from this morning do.

These POPS are most likely discharges of energy in relation to sudden 'charging' from such forces.

Could they cause EQ's? Studies seem to indicate that these EARTH/SOLAR forces are closely related.

Are they being looked at in the Park? This I do not know...except they we ARE seeing it.

I know I am not a geologist or any other scientist, but I can read in black, white AND GREY.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


E.M.

there was quite a few "POPS" right before the helicorders went bonkers

I'll lose my TV satellite signal during heavy sunspot activity

difference at 12:35 UTC signals are

that one Shows up as a "POP" the other one is recorded as a seismic signature
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17531086


Exactly!

There is NO precursor, and no harmonic or echo of any kind following that clean pulse. Once the energy is discharged, the event is over.

Thought of in another way, using gas, All it takes it ONE molecule of gas to cause a spark.

If there were free POCKETS of gas in an environment which is laden with oxygen, a series of explosive events could occur in both a magmatic scenario, or even a just one filled with gas alone.

Why we are NOT seeing harmonics or explosives before or after the fact, at least to me, proves that this is energy build-up being cleanly discharged.

or, maybe i a just deluded by fuzzy logic?


As for the 'going bonkers'....I suspect that the clean pulse is showing WHERE the MOST energy is...not as a CATALYST, but as a INDICATOR of where things are most hairy.

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E.M.

could this show a different kind of "POP" signal?

12:35 UTC

[link to quake.utah.edu]

[link to quake.utah.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17531086


I am TOTALLY convinced that the signal is coming from Atmospheric energy above the park...which is highly charged at this time.

Just the Auroras I noted on the fly could then be seen to correlate closely to traces on space monitors...


...just as the series from this morning do.

These POPS are most likely discharges of energy in relation to sudden 'charging' from such forces.

Could they cause EQ's? Studies seem to indicate that these EARTH/SOLAR forces are closely related.

Are they being looked at in the Park? This I do not know...except they we ARE seeing it.

I know I am not a geologist or any other scientist, but I can read in black, white AND GREY.


Consider this.

If I walk across a rug on a cold winter day, and you are doing the same, when we meet to shake hands, we might each got shocked.

If we DON"T TOUCH...this does not mean we are not charged with static electricity, it just means we have not MET to discharge each other.

This was the Auroras I witnessed, and, the POP/PULSE seen on the helicorders.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


The seismos transmit the data via radio.
Solar flares interfere with radio.
The last x-flare caused a radio comms blackout iirc.
The most likely explanation there is the solar flare x-rays are causing telemetry errors that lokk like spikes on the graphs, although I keep an open mind.
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Relevant...

One day after the Lake seismo showed a loud quake and started freaking out with increasing levels of 'something' (February 4th, 2014), Borehole B208 was upgraded or repaired regarding a VSAT Receiver:

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

Maintenance log: "VSAT_RECEIVER - HFHEAP08B02563274H - 32569 - 2014-02-05 - 12:01:00-07"

Here's what the Lake seismo looked like the day before: [link to www.isthisthingon.org]

AS SOON (to a few minutes) as the new VSAT receiver was installed... the weirdness stopped completely on the Lake seismo: [link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Something is affecting the seismo communication network and causing bad interference with the telemetry.

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Yes, the seismo's are radio connected, but the transmitters will be above ground with a cable connection to the sensor down the hole. There may be something in the idea that high static discharges via the short cable could take out the electronics in the sensor. That would explain the sudden failure of multiple units a few days ago. Could also explain the problem, (hopefully a damaged attenuator and NOT realistic readings), with the Lake Butt seismo.

Short duration "ticks" or "spikes" could be caused by R.F. propagation interference due to sunspot activity. The regular ticks could easily be static - slow charge build-up, sudden discharge, regular "rinse and repeat" cycles.
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E.M.

could this show a different kind of "POP" signal?

12:35 UTC

[link to quake.utah.edu]

[link to quake.utah.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17531086


I am TOTALLY convinced that the signal is coming from Atmospheric energy above the park...which is highly charged at this time.

Just the Auroras I noted on the fly could then be seen to correlate closely to traces on space monitors...


...just as the series from this morning do.

These POPS are most likely discharges of energy in relation to sudden 'charging' from such forces.

Could they cause EQ's? Studies seem to indicate that these EARTH/SOLAR forces are closely related.

Are they being looked at in the Park? This I do not know...except they we ARE seeing it.

I know I am not a geologist or any other scientist, but I can read in black, white AND GREY.


Consider this.

If I walk across a rug on a cold winter day, and you are doing the same, when we meet to shake hands, we might each got shocked.

If we DON"T TOUCH...this does not mean we are not charged with static electricity, it just means we have not MET to discharge each other.

This was the Auroras I witnessed, and, the POP/PULSE seen on the helicorders.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


The seismos transmit the data via radio.
Solar flares interfere with radio.
The last x-flare caused a radio comms blackout iirc.
The most likely explanation there is the solar flare x-rays are causing telemetry errors that lokk like spikes on the graphs, although I keep an open mind.
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NICE!!!!!

Perhaps it is like an anti-energy burst, which temporarily eliminates the seismic signal being recorded.

Then, on the traces where NO seismic signals are occurring, it still gets translated as the pulse it is.

Is this what you mean?

Interesting.
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Yes, the seismo's are radio connected, but the transmitters will be above ground with a cable connection to the sensor down the hole. There may be something in the idea that high static discharges via the short cable could take out the electronics in the sensor. That would explain the sudden failure of multiple units a few days ago. Could also explain the problem, (hopefully a damaged attenuator and NOT realistic readings), with the Lake Butt seismo.

Short duration "ticks" or "spikes" could be caused by R.F. propagation interference due to sunspot activity. The regular ticks could easily be static - slow charge build-up, sudden discharge, regular "rinse and repeat" cycles.
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Yeah but the actual plots are generated at the university or wherever, so the raw data sent from the stations is subject to anything that can interfere with (I presume) shortwave radio.
Whether or not the transmitters are above ground - as they most likely are - they will be susceptible to solar flare inerference or whatever, even a local electric storm, which would contaminate the signal before it's received and thus appear as spikes on the plots.
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Wow, look! A whole bison!

[link to www.nps.gov]
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Quoting from another thread ( Thread: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up (Page 42) ):

Watch this timelapse from yesterday at Electric Peak.

Switch it to fullscreen, 480p and don't skip till you've seen what happens to the entire landscape after 1 min 20 secs into the video.

My own eyes don't know how to comprehend what is happening...



Ideas?
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i remember when e19 was erupting in Iceland, the cams were making that same wobbly motion, much more pronounced obviously, but I think it's an electromagnetic effect from the nearness of the magma to the cam
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13849872


This could very well be why it's doing that... After all, it's called "ELECTRIC Peak" for a reason. Lots of strange atmosphere there, because of what's beneath it!

Dare I coin a new word for convenience? Because I'd propose that what's happening at Electric Peak is: "ElectroMAGMAtism".

cattheend
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yep, agreed.
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, wouldn't it be great if ELECTROMAGMATISM stars popping up in seismology journals!!!

Our very own ATCB could take the credit!

:) :)
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Careful Elf, your posts are dead right just the way they are, no need to answer probing questions, none of us need to know......the info on geology and Yellowstone is good - that's enough for us.......
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Thank you... you are correct.
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Careful Elf, your posts are dead right just the way they are, no need to answer probing questions, none of us need to know......the info on geology and Yellowstone is good - that's enough for us.......
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Thank you... you are correct.
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Exactly... not another NoSeAss
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Just Kidding... we Love Moon Beam too
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But all kidding aside. can anyone smart explain this, please?

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]





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according to this [link to upload.wikimedia.org] it would mean volcanic earthquakes...
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A hot mess!


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But all kidding aside. can anyone smart explain this, please?

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]





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Is it just me or have the seismo's quit registering? They all seem to be stopped right around the 1400 hour and it's after 1700 EST so there should be activity in the 1500 hour right?

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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Is it just me or have the seismo's quit registering? They all seem to be stopped right around the 1400 hour and it's after 1700 EST so there should be activity in the 1500 hour right?

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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You are very observant. Been watching the site all day, I guess I got blind somehow, have not registered this...

But thanks, I just asked the Author of the website via email about this.


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It appears this one is working. What does it mean?

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]

This one is crazy
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It appears this one is working. What does it mean?

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]

This one is crazy
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wow! what da heck!?!
what location are those?


this does not really help here but it is all i found
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
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It appears this one is working. What does it mean?

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]

This one is crazy
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wow! what da heck!?!
what location are those?


this does not really help here but it is all i found
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
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here check this out:
[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]
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Freaky looking aren't they?
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This is an Idaho. May be one of the new ones.

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]

Here is the main link to many graphs

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]
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This is an Idaho. May be one of the new ones.

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]

Here is the main link to many graphs

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! I don't know, but it can't be good.
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This is an Idaho. May be one of the new ones.

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]

Here is the main link to many graphs

[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! I don't know, but it can't be good.
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thanks for the links.

you know, not everything is really earthquake related (i've fond). some of these movement could be heavy trucks or military (tanks etc.)

but it great that you are watching this. one person more i guess :) ... we're growing
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