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Well, I found out who is using HAARP at the moment.

DARPA.

[link to www.arrl.org]

"The only bright spot on HAARP’s horizon right now is that the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is expected on site as a client to finish up some research this fall and winter. DARPA has nearly $8.8 million in its FY 14 budget plan to research “physical aspects of natural phenomena such as magnetospheric sub-storms, fire, lightning and geo-physical phenomena.”

From another article from April 11, 2014:

[link to www.arrl.org]

"The news account cites an Air Force spokesman as saying that final research experiments funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) are set to wrap up next month."

----

Good job, America! Let the Mad Scientist Squad (alias DARPA) loose on your weather systems with no oversight and you get... TORNADOES! EVERYWHERE!

And chemtrailing + HAARP experiments over a supervolcano. Because science. It's going to be an interesting month as DARPA 'wraps up' their weather bastardization experiments.

By the way, someone in Jackson Hole has been personally filming these geo-engineering experiments since August 8, 2013:

Jackson Hole Skywatch - [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



Don't forget...

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damnedlaladamned

We all know there is nothing we can do to stop what they are doing.

I think it's time to give a look-see to what helicorder traces LOOK LIKE where tornadoes are occurring...just for reference.

Any good doctor who is baffled will begin by ruling out WHAT it's NOT.
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Mornin' E.M......

I've been thinking more about the "weirdness" regarding the helicorders, the different sensitivity settings, weird spikes and so on. They are not necessarily "designed to confuse us".

The sensors have many settings, but I'll just take 3 for simplicity. The sensor can be set to measure movement North/South, or East/West, or Up/Down. Now let's say someone was watching Up/Down movement in a specific area, and so has set the sensitivity, filters etc to the appropriate level, and all is well. Everyone using that device knows what they are looking at. Now let's say that they see, from other instruments, GPS and so on, that the ground at that location is moving centimeters per year North. They already have loads of data for the Up/Down movement, and now want to know if the ground is sliding - like moving smoothly over magma, or if it's "rumbling", like rocks grinding over each other, or if it's "jerking" etc. They then inform all the "users" of that data that as of midnight on a specific day that sensor will be changed accordingly. So first they change it to see North/South movement instead of Up/Down, then reset all the other parameters, including sensitivity, and from the next day the chart looks entirely different - spikes that were never there before etc. Everyone "using" the info now knows that what they are looking at is to be interpreted quite differently, so everyone is happy. We are not geoligists and don't get the "memo", so suddenly we are speculating wildly, when in reality it's just normal procedure.

Personally, I think just calculating shakes we are interested in into uV readings, as shown for each sensor at the time, is good enough to more or less determine the direction it came from, or the epicentre.

For those who want to go full tard, I imagine an email to NPS/USGS requesting a listing of each sensor, what it's set to measure, what all it's parameters are and so on, would probably be answered. Dunno, am not interested enough myself to ask.

Thanks for all the interesting posts E.M.
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Ugh, Upper Geyser Basin cam is frozen again.
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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
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Would you mind taking the pic of when the lava shoots thousands of feet into the air for me preferably from Old faithful if you can get it ......rofl
 Quoting: saviour12631

I'll try my darndest, can't promise anything though ;) burnit

So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


Awesome! If it blows when you're there, well, we've all got to go sometime and what a spectacular way to go that would be! Seriously though, hope you have a good time :)
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You are correct! All I can think about being on-site when it blows is this...


:) Thanks for the well wishes

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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


Would you mind taking the pic of when the lava shoots thousands of feet into the air for me preferably from Old faithful if you can get it ......rofl
 Quoting: saviour12631

I'll try my darndest, can't promise anything though ;) burnit

So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


Awesome! If it blows when you're there, well, we've all got to go sometime and what a spectacular way to go that would be! Seriously though, hope you have a good time :)
 Quoting: Dragonface

You are correct! All I can think about being on-site when it blows is this...


:) Thanks for the well wishes
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Uh, yea, well I s'pose you could pick up a high powered A.M. transmitter back-pack from army surplus......
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This site lists YS earthquakes. What's interesting is that none of them show up on other sites. The largest is a 2.0 and the smallest is a .07. There are six of them for today's date.

[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

Another site I was on, listed the number of quakes for Idaho at 66 for a thirty day period. I haven't seen this number reported on any site that lists quakes.

[link to earthquaketrack.com]

I don't understand their concept behind reporting quakes or listing them on various sites. What would be impressive would be to have access to a site that listed the quakes in the Yellowstone vicinity with the actual quakes and not simply the discretionary release of information.

Thanks to those who are dedicated and spend hours compiling information and sharing it with the rest of us.
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Well, I found out who is using HAARP at the moment.

DARPA.

[link to www.arrl.org]

"The only bright spot on HAARP’s horizon right now is that the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is expected on site as a client to finish up some research this fall and winter. DARPA has nearly $8.8 million in its FY 14 budget plan to research “physical aspects of natural phenomena such as magnetospheric sub-storms, fire, lightning and geo-physical phenomena.”

From another article from April 11, 2014:

[link to www.arrl.org]

"The news account cites an Air Force spokesman as saying that final research experiments funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) are set to wrap up next month."

----

Good job, America! Let the Mad Scientist Squad (alias DARPA) loose on your weather systems with no oversight and you get... TORNADOES! EVERYWHERE!

And chemtrailing + HAARP experiments over a supervolcano. Because science. It's going to be an interesting month as DARPA 'wraps up' their weather bastardization experiments.

By the way, someone in Jackson Hole has been personally filming these geo-engineering experiments since August 8, 2013:

Jackson Hole Skywatch - [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



Don't forget...

worthless5
 Quoting: AllThatCanBe



damnedlaladamned

We all know there is nothing we can do to stop what they are doing.

I think it's time to give a look-see to what helicorder traces LOOK LIKE where tornadoes are occurring...just for reference.

Any good doctor who is baffled will begin by ruling out WHAT it's NOT.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Okay. We first noticed the pulses with precise intervals and a waveform duration of 15-30 seconds on April 25th, remember?

Pulses at Mammoth on April 25: [link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Pulses at Soda Butte on April 25: [link to www.isthisthingon.org]

The same pulses were observed at the precise second as the others occurred, on nearly every seismo available.

Spiky interference at NE Entrance, April 25: [link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Lake Butte went berzerk on April 26th, a day after the pulses: [link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Now let's look at that violent tornado outbreak...

"April 25

In advance of a compact shortwave trough and associated cold front, numerous severe thunderstorms developed across central and eastern North Carolina into southern Virginia. An EF3 tornado tracked through the Whichards Beach area, damaging or destroying 100 homes, killing 1 person and injuring 16 others. This event marks the latest time of formation of the first EF3+ tornado in any year on record."

"April 27–30

Numerous tornadoes ripped across parts of Mississippi, Alabama, Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Florida. A large, violent tornado struck Mayflower and Vilonia, Arkansas, on April 27 causing severe damage and killing 16 people. The tornado was rated a high-end EF4, the first violent tornado of the year. Another death was confirmed with an EF2 tornado that moved through Quapaw, Oklahoma, and Baxter Springs, Kansas. Ten people were killed when an EF4 tornado struck Louisville, Mississippi."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There's a whole entry for the HAARP-sung havoc of April 27-30: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Back to the pulses, here's a quote I found:

"If you go to the HAARP Internet web site and look at the nearly-live Induction Magnetometer data you would sometimes see at the bottom of the chart some bright orange lines which seem to be the ULF output of HAARP impressed upon the earth’s magnetic field. If you could expand the scale you could actually see the pattern of pulses and spaces of the code. But the output of the magnetometer is averaged over a period of 102.4 seconds. A rather odd number but guaranteed to average out any indication of 15 or 30 second pulses and spaces."

Unfortunately since the HAARP site is OFFLINE... we could only glean this information from alternative sources: [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

The spiky interference in the early morning at NE Entrance? Same pulse signature in a scattered manner, lasting 15-30 seconds, randomly one or the other interval in various sequences. Calibration possibly... For the HAARP antennas.

HAARP is also able to transmit continuously as opposed to pulses, and a known duration that HAARP can sustain a transmission is 30 minutes (though they've recently made created a dense plasma cloud lasting over an hour, sustained), which is the same interval we are seeing between strong pulses in the day time. Look at the pulses in today's seismos and April 25... none of them ever appear within 30 minutes of each other.

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There's lots we can all do about 'this'. It starts with being informed I believe.

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Thread: we're in a lot of trouble I think.

check out the gif..

[link to makeagif.com]
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You see that obvious cluster of quakes in Alaska?

What if I told you HAARP is located smack bang in the center of it?

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This site lists YS earthquakes. What's interesting is that none of them show up on other sites. The largest is a 2.0 and the smallest is a .07. There are six of them for today's date.

[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

Another site I was on, listed the number of quakes for Idaho at 66 for a thirty day period. I haven't seen this number reported on any site that lists quakes.

[link to earthquaketrack.com]

I don't understand their concept behind reporting quakes or listing them on various sites. What would be impressive would be to have access to a site that listed the quakes in the Yellowstone vicinity with the actual quakes and not simply the discretionary release of information.

Thanks to those who are dedicated and spend hours compiling information and sharing it with the rest of us.
 Quoting: HollyWho


Yeah ugh, the Utah quake map is clumsy and hard to use but it's the most real-time since they're doing the research.

The USGS quake map is about as good on most days, and has a much friendlier interface: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

Sites like Earthquake Track and Global Incident Map are 3rd party apps, meaning they only show data that has to be released through official channels (like USGS) first. Often there's a lag because they're catching up with what's being put out.

Also, if a quake is deleted from a 3rd party app, there's two levels of likelihood of that being a glitch since it's second-hand data.

Use 3rd party sites sparingly.
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Mornin' E.M......

I've been thinking more about the "weirdness" regarding the helicorders, the different sensitivity settings, weird spikes and so on. They are not necessarily "designed to confuse us".

The sensors have many settings, but I'll just take 3 for simplicity. The sensor can be set to measure movement North/South, or East/West, or Up/Down. Now let's say someone was watching Up/Down movement in a specific area, and so has set the sensitivity, filters etc to the appropriate level, and all is well. Everyone using that device knows what they are looking at. Now let's say that they see, from other instruments, GPS and so on, that the ground at that location is moving centimeters per year North. They already have loads of data for the Up/Down movement, and now want to know if the ground is sliding - like moving smoothly over magma, or if it's "rumbling", like rocks grinding over each other, or if it's "jerking" etc. They then inform all the "users" of that data that as of midnight on a specific day that sensor will be changed accordingly. So first they change it to see North/South movement instead of Up/Down, then reset all the other parameters, including sensitivity, and from the next day the chart looks entirely different - spikes that were never there before etc. Everyone "using" the info now knows that what they are looking at is to be interpreted quite differently, so everyone is happy. We are not geoligists and don't get the "memo", so suddenly we are speculating wildly, when in reality it's just normal procedure.

Personally, I think just calculating shakes we are interested in into uV readings, as shown for each sensor at the time, is good enough to more or less determine the direction it came from, or the epicentre.

For those who want to go full tard, I imagine an email to NPS/USGS requesting a listing of each sensor, what it's set to measure, what all it's parameters are and so on, would probably be answered. Dunno, am not interested enough myself to ask.

Thanks for all the interesting posts E.M.
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What I am finding, is that the type of traces we are finding in the park often make it quite hard to determine direction at times.

Also, as much as I like to follow the events, I'm not going to go full tard with it.

While it is true I like knowing as much as conceivably possible, I am NOT there to actually SEE anything. If I were in a capacity to actually take measurements -to go where I think things need more scrutiny- it would be an entirely different approach than just 'peeking' at the Park while sitting at home or from work.

Another thing: even the mv values do not tell much. Consider the quake this morning.

Horse Butte and West Boundary are both set to 1333.33, yet, their traces are quite different.

Even though Horse Butte is closer to Denny, its trace was milder than at West Boundary.

This tells me than Denny and West Boundary are more intricately connected, being on the same side of the mountains there.

However, 'the formula' still does not explain HOW Hegben Lake, closer to Horse Butte on the other side of the river, and further than Denny, appears to have 'felt' the quake worse. Or, why the trace a bit east at Maple Creek looks like a sudden impact...which quelled so 'neatly'.

I am not there; I obviously only have an idea of the geology involved, so all I can 'think' is that whatever happened FIRST near Denny traveled ENE across the flood plain and slammed right into Maple Creek.

Other than that, I do not know.

brb...battery dying

to continue:

Whatever happened FIRST at/near Denny Creek traveled ENE across the flood plain and slammed right into Maple Creek.

We know the wave did not STOP at Maple Creek, for it is seen going deeper into the Park, into Montana, into Utah and West at least as far as Washington State.

So why does the trace at Maple Creek just seem to 'stop'?

Is this where a bulk of the magma is? Does the wave look diminished because it largely crossed a pool of deep fluids, not just the waters of Hegben Lake, or those of Madison Arm?

I wish I knew soooooo much more. I wish I had inside knowledge of updated movement...so I am not always 'guessing' and 'supposing'.

Oh, well. 1dunno1

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Woohoo, live cam is back!

[link to www.nps.gov]
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Oh, YEA!!! Cams back up!
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i think i leave it to the professionals guys. Theres a reason why they are called scientists and thats coz they pretty know what they are doing.

Some of you might say otherwise but i hardly think that the guys who monitor Yellowstone are going to put people in danger. Thats why they go out in all weather checking the area for hazards and warning the public and blocking off trails if need be.

Yellowstone will go out with a bang eventually but not in the foreseeable future. However it is possible that magma can make its way to the surface but its not an indication of an supervolcano about to go off.
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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
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So -- EM, anyone? We haven't really talked about where in the park we will be going to, but I imagine in 2 days we can cover a lot. Any side shots of geysers or possible ground deformations? I read a bit back into the 2 popular yellowstone threads looking for hot topics that maybe I can shoot some pictures of, but haven't found anything.
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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


So -- EM, anyone? We haven't really talked about where in the park we will be going to, but I imagine in 2 days we can cover a lot. Any side shots of geysers or possible ground deformations? I read a bit back into the 2 popular yellowstone threads looking for hot topics that maybe I can shoot some pictures of, but haven't found anything.
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You must be soooo excited!

I have never been there, so I couldn't even begin to tell you where to go 'snooping' for clues.

However, I would LOVE to get a feel for the land where the live cam is mounted. We're always seeing it bob and shake, but I don't know just how far away it is, or the terrain -which I still think is experiencing inflation (uplift) and deflation...as if it breathes.

And, it might be fun, at a predesignated time, for you to go stand in the walkway shown on the Old Faithful still cam, and hold up a sign that says: Hi! GLP!!! Except, you'd have to do it for at least one minute to insure it got into the still shot. Or...you could simply rest it against one of the trees. That is, of course, if we are not considered persona-non-grata to park officials by now!


Here's a website to start you off figuring out what you don't want to miss: [link to www.geyserstudy.org]

I have also come across a few blogs and other sites where people have posted wonderful pictures and stories about their own trips in the park.
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Woohoo, live cam is back!

[link to www.nps.gov]
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Thank you... I was worried that they were going to make sure that the cam did not come back on. Since GLP has been under attack, I did not know how far they were going to take it.
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i think i leave it to the professionals guys. Theres a reason why they are called scientists and thats coz they pretty know what they are doing.

Some of you might say otherwise but i hardly think that the guys who monitor Yellowstone are going to put people in danger. Thats why they go out in all weather checking the area for hazards and warning the public and blocking off trails if need be.

Yellowstone will go out with a bang eventually but not in the foreseeable future. However it is possible that magma can make its way to the surface but its not an indication of an supervolcano about to go off.
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I believe you are correct. These are exactly my sentiments.
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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


So -- EM, anyone? We haven't really talked about where in the park we will be going to, but I imagine in 2 days we can cover a lot. Any side shots of geysers or possible ground deformations? I read a bit back into the 2 popular yellowstone threads looking for hot topics that maybe I can shoot some pictures of, but haven't found anything.
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You must be soooo excited!

I have never been there, so I couldn't even begin to tell you where to go 'snooping' for clues.

However, I would LOVE to get a feel for the land where the live cam is mounted. We're always seeing it bob and shake, but I don't know just how far away it is, or the terrain -which I still think is experiencing inflation (uplift) and deflation...as if it breathes.

And, it might be fun, at a predesignated time, for you to go stand in the walkway shown on the Old Faithful still cam, and hold up a sign that says: Hi! GLP!!! Except, you'd have to do it for at least one minute to insure it got into the still shot. Or...you could simply rest it against one of the trees. That is, of course, if we are not considered persona-non-grata to park officials by now!


Here's a website to start you off figuring out what you don't want to miss: [link to www.geyserstudy.org]

I have also come across a few blogs and other sites where people have posted wonderful pictures and stories about their own trips in the park.
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E. Morgan...
that is a awesome idea. If they can take a sign, big enough to be seen by the camera... saying Hello GLP. It would be one way to thumb our noses at the Government Offices back east.
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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
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So -- EM, anyone? We haven't really talked about where in the park we will be going to, but I imagine in 2 days we can cover a lot. Any side shots of geysers or possible ground deformations? I read a bit back into the 2 popular yellowstone threads looking for hot topics that maybe I can shoot some pictures of, but haven't found anything.
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You must be soooo excited!

I have never been there, so I couldn't even begin to tell you where to go 'snooping' for clues.

However, I would LOVE to get a feel for the land where the live cam is mounted. We're always seeing it bob and shake, but I don't know just how far away it is, or the terrain -which I still think is experiencing inflation (uplift) and deflation...as if it breathes.

And, it might be fun, at a predesignated time, for you to go stand in the walkway shown on the Old Faithful still cam, and hold up a sign that says: Hi! GLP!!! Except, you'd have to do it for at least one minute to insure it got into the still shot. Or...you could simply rest it against one of the trees. That is, of course, if we are not considered persona-non-grata to park officials by now!


Here's a website to start you off figuring out what you don't want to miss: [link to www.geyserstudy.org]

I have also come across a few blogs and other sites where people have posted wonderful pictures and stories about their own trips in the park.
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That is such an awesome idea about holding the sign up at the old faithful walkway cam! haha I absolutely am going to try to do this, And I will post the confirmed date\time on both YS threads once I know - so hopefully someone can be watching. Only thing is, that even at the closest focal point at the start of the walkway, i'd need a pretty big sign to say HI GLP so I think I may just write GLP bolded, to make sure its seen :)

I am absolutely excited, as it is my first return to YS since I was young. And that geyserstudy link is awesome, will help with planning our trip through there.

Through basic geometry can you get any sort of semi-near co-ordinates that I can plug into gmaps and sort of see what the best angle to get a shot of it is? I indeed see it bobbing and weaving a LOT - I am interested in this too. It's my understanding its mounted on a tree, correct?

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...And, it might be fun, at a predesignated time, for you to go stand in the walkway shown on the Old Faithful still cam, and hold up a sign that says: Hi! GLP!!! Except, you'd have to do it for at least one minute to insure it got into the still shot. Or...you could simply rest it against one of the trees. That is, of course, if we are not considered persona-non-grata to park officials by now!



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E. Morgan...
that is a awesome idea. If they can take a sign, big enough to be seen by the camera... saying Hello GLP. It would be one way to thumb our noses at the Government Offices back east.
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Thumbing noses is something I do in private...thank you very much. Yet, it is really more a mental flipping of the bird, at least when inequities come to light.

Every day, day in day out; every month; every year; decade in, decade out [well, almost...Clinton was kinda fun]; when shopping or even musing of shopping; when paying bills -or, not paying them just yet; and while duct-taping something in my house which needs fixing (i.e.: 'duct-tape' as analogy, as opposed to just saying: 'finding clever ways to make repairs using items found in and around the house'...although duct-tape can be a wonderful tool).

Oh, yeah...and when I watch supposed news; and, especially when I see anything related to Wall Street; or when hearing of banker's banquets and corporate profit margins; or watching a commercial about the alleged latest wonder-drug; and, again, when they are said to kill people.

Oh, my! And I am NO WHERE NEAR the end of my lists.

This is why I live a very quiet life here in Denialville. Much as is seen in Buddhism, I have learned that the easy path works much better for me. I do without so easily, that it is almost spiritual in essence. If I do not make a dent in this world, maybe it will not dent me back.

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So, while I cannot advocate nose-thumbing, I still think it would be fun to think of it while displaying any sign.
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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
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So -- EM, anyone? We haven't really talked about where in the park we will be going to, but I imagine in 2 days we can cover a lot. Any side shots of geysers or possible ground deformations? I read a bit back into the 2 popular yellowstone threads looking for hot topics that maybe I can shoot some pictures of, but haven't found anything.
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Please take some nice wide shots of the sky, wherever you are in the park. It would be very interesting to see the detail on some of the electrified cloud formations I've observed on the mountain cams. Get some closeups of any chemtrails you can see, too.

Will you be visiting Mammoth? If so, try get some pics around the travertine terraces area shown on the Mammoth cam here: [link to www.nps.gov]

Specifically, to the left of the cam image there are some gnarly, lifeless trees. Those will be good to inspect closer since the flora and trees will be first to show signs of anything untoward.

There are two vents right there in that field, well away from the terrace geysers and closer to the cam. They aren't steaming often but when they do, it looks a bit much for comfort. See what I mean in this timelapse:



To the left, at the ground level of the building behind it, there's quite a bit of steam coming out. Also, at the same level near the closest trees in the center of the image, there's another steaming session coming from the ground. I'm not sure if that's are normal but it would be nice to see what's happening there.

Here's a map of the webcam and the vents I'm talking about: [link to i.imgur.com]

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So, I am planning taking a coast to coast drive with family starting in the next ~50 hours. We are 100% stopping by Yellowstone for 2 days to sightsee - So, I will be in the Yellowstone area next week Wednesday-Sunday, given any 2 days combination (most likely will be Wed+thurs given previous travel times) -

That said, we will be bringing 1 Canon 5D MKII DSLR camera with several professional grade lenses for shooting in all sorts of conditions and distances, and 1 GoPro Black edition - given the activity\uptick currently going on there, do any of you here want on site, high res pictures of areas you might not be able to get\easily see online? No, I am not going trekking 2 miles to take a picture of a lake, but if you give me co-ords or a description of the area\known landmarks, and a target, I will gladly search for a shot when there.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


So -- EM, anyone? We haven't really talked about where in the park we will be going to, but I imagine in 2 days we can cover a lot. Any side shots of geysers or possible ground deformations? I read a bit back into the 2 popular yellowstone threads looking for hot topics that maybe I can shoot some pictures of, but haven't found anything.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


You must be soooo excited!

I have never been there, so I couldn't even begin to tell you where to go 'snooping' for clues.

However, I would LOVE to get a feel for the land where the live cam is mounted. We're always seeing it bob and shake, but I don't know just how far away it is, or the terrain -which I still think is experiencing inflation (uplift) and deflation...as if it breathes.

And, it might be fun, at a predesignated time, for you to go stand in the walkway shown on the Old Faithful still cam, and hold up a sign that says: Hi! GLP!!! Except, you'd have to do it for at least one minute to insure it got into the still shot. Or...you could simply rest it against one of the trees. That is, of course, if we are not considered persona-non-grata to park officials by now!


Here's a website to start you off figuring out what you don't want to miss: [link to www.geyserstudy.org]

I have also come across a few blogs and other sites where people have posted wonderful pictures and stories about their own trips in the park.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


That is such an awesome idea about holding the sign up at the old faithful walkway cam! haha I absolutely am going to try to do this, And I will post the confirmed date\time on both YS threads once I know - so hopefully someone can be watching. Only thing is, that even at the closest focal point at the start of the walkway, i'd need a pretty big sign to say HI GLP so I think I may just write GLP bolded, to make sure its seen :)

I am absolutely excited, as it is my first return to YS since I was young. And that geyserstudy link is awesome, will help with planning our trip through there.

Through basic geometry can you get any sort of semi-near co-ordinates that I can plug into gmaps and sort of see what the best angle to get a shot of it is? I indeed see it bobbing and weaving a LOT - I am interested in this too. It's my understanding its mounted on a tree, correct?
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I think it is on a tree. 'Where' is the question.

I suspect it MUST be on a high hill a good way away from the viewing area to the right of Old Faithful, since they easily show the people standing on the entry path and sitting on the benches. The Upper Geyser Still Cam is probably mounted close to the live cam, and is seen here: [link to www.nps.gov]

My suggestion was for a sign at the still cam at Old Faithful, but that's your choice, of course: [link to www.nps.gov]

All of those people are easy to see, while the sign saying "Old Faithful Geyser" is really rather small.

If you stood close to the beginning of the walk, your sign only needs to be about 18" X 3'...WITH 6 CHARACTERS only: HI GLP! for good measure you can pre-print and paste on large smilie that you like -which might make you feel at home ...and miss us less!

Oh, joy! chorus

we're taking a trip to Yellowstone!!
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So -- EM, anyone? We haven't really talked about where in the park we will be going to, but I imagine in 2 days we can cover a lot. Any side shots of geysers or possible ground deformations? I read a bit back into the 2 popular yellowstone threads looking for hot topics that maybe I can shoot some pictures of, but haven't found anything.
 Quoting: kundalinichi


You must be soooo excited!

I have never been there, so I couldn't even begin to tell you where to go 'snooping' for clues.

However, I would LOVE to get a feel for the land where the live cam is mounted. We're always seeing it bob and shake, but I don't know just how far away it is, or the terrain -which I still think is experiencing inflation (uplift) and deflation...as if it breathes.

And, it might be fun, at a predesignated time, for you to go stand in the walkway shown on the Old Faithful still cam, and hold up a sign that says: Hi! GLP!!! Except, you'd have to do it for at least one minute to insure it got into the still shot. Or...you could simply rest it against one of the trees. That is, of course, if we are not considered persona-non-grata to park officials by now!


Here's a website to start you off figuring out what you don't want to miss: [link to www.geyserstudy.org]

I have also come across a few blogs and other sites where people have posted wonderful pictures and stories about their own trips in the park.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


That is such an awesome idea about holding the sign up at the old faithful walkway cam! haha I absolutely am going to try to do this, And I will post the confirmed date\time on both YS threads once I know - so hopefully someone can be watching. Only thing is, that even at the closest focal point at the start of the walkway, i'd need a pretty big sign to say HI GLP so I think I may just write GLP bolded, to make sure its seen :)

I am absolutely excited, as it is my first return to YS since I was young. And that geyserstudy link is awesome, will help with planning our trip through there.

Through basic geometry can you get any sort of semi-near co-ordinates that I can plug into gmaps and sort of see what the best angle to get a shot of it is? I indeed see it bobbing and weaving a LOT - I am interested in this too. It's my understanding its mounted on a tree, correct?
 Quoting: kundalinichi



I think it is on a tree. 'Where' is the question.

I suspect it MUST be on a high hill a good way away from the viewing area to the right of Old Faithful, since they easily show the people standing on the entry path and sitting on the benches. The Upper Geyser Still Cam is probably mounted close to the live cam, and is seen here: [link to www.nps.gov]

My suggestion was for a sign at the still cam at Old Faithful, but that's your choice, of course: [link to www.nps.gov]

All of those people are easy to see, while the sign saying "Old Faithful Geyser" is really rather small.

If you stood close to the beginning of the walk, your sign only needs to be about 18" X 3'...WITH 6 CHARACTERS only: HI GLP! for good measure you can pre-print and paste on large smilie that you like -which might make you feel at home ...and miss us less!

Oh, joy! chorus

we're taking a trip to Yellowstone!!
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Yeah, we were talking about the same Yellowstone still cam for the HI GLP. That is what I based my thoughts off - the barely legible Old Faithful sign. I will see what I can get, paper wise, and will let you all know! I think its hilarious, so does my dad. haha.

I am sort of trying to get a 3d diagram for the cams, so I can atleast have a semi correct sense of direction when taking these pictures, to label them later on. If the upper geyser cam is anywhere near the Livecam, looks like a good bit of walkway, so pretty sure I will find it :) people may wonder why I am snapping shots of trees instead of geysers\land but.. will try my best :)
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Please take some nice wide shots of the sky, wherever you are in the park. It would be very interesting to see the detail on some of the electrified cloud formations I've observed on the mountain cams. Get some closeups of any chemtrails you can see, too.

Will you be visiting Mammoth? If so, try get some pics around the travertine terraces area shown on the Mammoth cam here: [link to www.nps.gov]

Specifically, to the left of the cam image there are some gnarly, lifeless trees. Those will be good to inspect closer since the flora and trees will be first to show signs of anything untoward.

There are two vents right there in that field, well away from the terrace geysers and closer to the cam. They aren't steaming often but when they do, it looks a bit much for comfort. See what I mean in this timelapse:



To the left, at the ground level of the building behind it, there's quite a bit of steam coming out. Also, at the same level near the closest trees in the center of the image, there's another steaming session coming from the ground. I'm not sure if that's are normal but it would be nice to see what's happening there.

Here's a map of the webcam and the vents I'm talking about: [link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: AllThatCanBe

The forecast, sadly, for this week is plotting out cold, rainy\snow days for the most part - so I will try to get as many sky shots as I can. This is depressing on another note since I was hoping this drive, we would get clear skies around the midwest so I can get some nice low-light views of the night sky :( Can keep my fingers crossed, I guess.

Thank you! This is my first objective now! Yes, we both agreed that we will spend a good bit of time in the Norris-Mammoth basin after checking out geyserstudy.org - I will get as close to the shots that you are talking about that I can, making sure to try to get looking-down shots on the basin there, if possible somehow, to get a good view of the actual ground where these short but unnerving spots of steam emission come from - and thanks for mentioning to keep an eye on flora for any abnormalities, might not have done so otherwise, been more focused on geological formations.

The linked map of Mammoths cams orientation helps greatly and I have it saved to my phone now for reference.

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with NRWY falling off a cliff,
I can't help but think that a magma chamber open up somewhere

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

GRZL looks to be starting to show uplift and it's very close to Roaring Mountain

so is Magma heading up the Norris-Mammoth Corridor

or it pushing west towards BRYL and Hebegan Lake

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

flow map

[link to www.nature.com]

subsidence appears to have stopped at the lake and could even be starting another uplift period

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

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haven't posted in a couple,

was in complete Ystone overload

but this event starting at 21::42 UTC at the Array

needs to be logged

[link to quake.utah.edu]

still of the belief that there is forces at work in the Lake Area
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that one is from may 3rd.

if i remember correctly it was a EQ outside the park.
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Just posting this now because I forgot to earlier - EM, your quote 'If I do not make a dent in this world, maybe it will not dent me back.' resonated greatly with me for whatever reason. Thank you for posting it.
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Just posting this now because I forgot to earlier - EM, your quote 'If I do not make a dent in this world, maybe it will not dent me back.' resonated greatly with me for whatever reason. Thank you for posting it.
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hf thank you!
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[link to quake.utah.edu]

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E.M.

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