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Confederate states of America Constitution guarantees guns and God
article 14 section for says The right of citizens to keep and bear arms for the protection of themselves and their families or for the hunting of wild game, shall never be infringed by the Congress, any Federal department, agency, board, bureau, or commission, by any State or by any municipality. I wish the u.s. 2nd read that way.

article 14 section pro God reads
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; neither shall it prohibit nor inhibit the free exercise of any Judeo-Christian religion as they may have existed in the Confederate States prior to nineteen hundred and fifty. The Congress is directed to pass legislation effectively outlawing any and all non-Judeo-Christian religions.
Section 2. No branch of the Federal government or of any State government shall restrict the free expression of any Judeo-Christian religion.

lots of other great stuff in the Confederate Constitution too. yes there is stuff about slavery. so what. you liberal assholes will love jumping on that but consider this, slaves had full unemployment, free health care, free housing. all at no cost to the taxpayer. there was very little to rare black on white crime. no drug dealers, and no buggy jackings. was slavery really that bad ? or have we been victims of yankee propaganda ? think about it.
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Another cool thing about their Constitution: Term Limits for everybody!
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Another cool thing about their Constitution: Term Limits for everybody!
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for president six years not four. once
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It is amazing how the South has always been portrayed as the folks that are backwards and unintellectual. Unfortunately, IQ is not the true gauge of someones intellect.

I am a Southerner and fully understand the ramifications of what happened during the Civil War and wish all Americans truly understood what the South stood for. It had nothing to do with slavery, which I abhor, but all about keeping us ALL out of slavery which we are ALL under today.

BTW...I tested out as a genius at an early age and was put through all of the mind game crap through my early years in California, Texas and Florida.
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Another cool thing about their Constitution: Term Limits for everybody!
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for president six years not four. once
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Congress too.

ARTICLE the THIRTEENTH
Section 1. No Senator or Representative shall serve in their respective house for more than twelve years.
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thanks getz
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Can we please secede again?
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It is amazing how the South has always been portrayed as the folks that are backwards and unintellectual. Unfortunately, IQ is not the true gauge of someones intellect.

I am a Southerner and fully understand the ramifications of what happened during the Civil War and wish all Americans truly understood what the South stood for. It had nothing to do with slavery, which I abhor, but all about keeping us ALL out of slavery which we are ALL under today.

BTW...I tested out as a genius at an early age and was put through all of the mind game crap through my early years in California, Texas and Florida.
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I to am a southerner and while I do not abhor slavery I share most of your views. What is the difference in the government taking care of (insert black female name here) and her offspring from cradle to grave and me owning them as slaves and taking care of them from cradle to grave? At least they would be productive as my property. Think about it.
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Yeah, and Jeff Davis; just like his idiot counter-part up north; SUSPENEDED THE WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS. SO THERE....
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I've got news for ya. The South is nothing like it was then. Rugged individualists? Men who loved freedom? Not any more. Absent the 2nd Amendment, most purblind southerners could not recite any other in the Bill of Rights. It's a shame and disgrace where the South has gone: to hell. Judges down here are the 2nd prosecutor.
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I've got news for ya. The South is nothing like it was then. Rugged individualists? Men who loved freedom? Not any more. Absent the 2nd Amendment, most purblind southerners could not recite any other in the Bill of Rights. It's a shame and disgrace where the South has gone: to hell. Judges down here are the 2nd prosecutor.
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Judges everywhere are the second prosecutor, but yeah you're right
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I've got news for ya. The South is nothing like it was then. Rugged individualists? Men who loved freedom? Not any more. Absent the 2nd Amendment, most purblind southerners could not recite any other in the Bill of Rights. It's a shame and disgrace where the South has gone: to hell. Judges down here are the 2nd prosecutor.
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do not blame the Southern people my friend. they have been occupied for almost 150 years by the yankee forces. blame the u.s. government for the failed education system. before 1958 the schools were better but now they are dumbed down and the only history taught is about the mean old white man.
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I to am a southerner and while I do not abhor slavery I share most of your views. What is the difference in the government taking care of (insert black female name here) and her offspring from cradle to grave and me owning them as slaves and taking care of them from cradle to grave? At least they would be productive as my property. Think about it.
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Did you ever read 'In Defence of Virginia' or 'Liberty and Slavery'? They are two great books that are apologies for slavery. Since reading those I've been unable to see how slavery is absolutely wrong. And if it is then parenthood is wrong and so is the state. We are all born into captivity of our parents and some state. Both can compel us to work. Both can limit our freedom. Neither require our consent.

Unfortunately you can't have a meaningful conversation on the issue because people are illogical and uneducated about the facts of slavery. For instance almost everyone will immediately complain about the cruelty of whippings and the punishment for desertion. But when you bring up the fact the US Army continued to use whippings as a punishment long after slavery ended and still can execute those who desert people just respond, 'you cannot make slavery sound good, it was evil'.
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I've got news for ya. The South is nothing like it was then. Rugged individualists? Men who loved freedom? Not any more. Absent the 2nd Amendment, most purblind southerners could not recite any other in the Bill of Rights. It's a shame and disgrace where the South has gone: to hell. Judges down here are the 2nd prosecutor.
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Yeah but at least we are more of a man that those northerners ( not all ofc )
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Great thread...

yeah, SOME blacks may have been mistreated- but the vast majority would have been housed, clothed, fed, and had medical attention when needed. They were investments and needed to be taken care of. Lot's and lot's of them were looked upon as extended family to the white owners.

I'll leave you with this though...

I was doing some research in the Hamilton County Courthouse in TX one day. They had old relics- old journal entries, old hand tools, old things from the earliest pioneers that migrated to TX. One of the relics was a really old letter written by a man that was sort of a 'scout' for others in places like AR, TN, KY, etc.

In his letter he was writing to describe TX soil types/conditions, weather, indian trouble, water sources, etc. He also refers to another man that decided to come with him to TX that brought his slave with him too.

When referring to them he states, "Jim also is here with me. He brought along his n3gro. It has been hard work bringing in a small test crop, and even harder getting the n3gro to do any work, but we all know how that is."
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Sounds good, except the God thing. We'd be like Islam in Iran... severe persecution of anyone who feels differently. Hell, we might even still be burning people at stakes for being different.

Plus, the opinion of slavery here is mildly disturbing. If it wasn't for the welfare system, you should leave these people to their own devices, not enslave them. If you want to make an agreement to take care of someone, as far as food shelter and medical care, for them to dedicate themselves to you, that's okay... but that's not slavery. Slavery is generally forcing someone to serve, against their will. If you believe in that, then you cannot call yourself an American if you believe the concept is 'land of the free'.

I'll gladly take the guns though... Sadly, it doesn't mean it would have been anymore likely to succeed than what we already have. We were already guaranteed guns, and look at what's happening with that.
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Slavery is generally forcing someone to serve, against their will. If you believe in that, then you cannot call yourself an American if you believe the concept is 'land of the free'.
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All definitions of slavery I encounter make lots of other institutions immoral. Your definition forcing someone to serve is what parents do and what governments do. I'd also point out that according to your definition someone could be an owned slave but not be in slavery. If a slave actually wanted to serve their master then they would not be in slavery. A typical reaction to that is that such a state is impossible. But that ignores the success of Christianity in teaching slaves to obey their masters. This does not mean all slaves wanted to serve, but some did.

I think a better definition of slavery is that one man has the right to another man's labor. And by that definition slavery abounds today. For instance in the US someone who doesn't want to work has a right to my labor received through various welfare programs. The proponents of welfare are quite clear that a positive right exists whereby the state should justly take from one man to give to another because the recipient is justly entitled to the labor. Also parents can compel their children to work for them. The state can compel you in military service and increasingly other ways to work for them.

Personally I don't care about whether I'm an American or not. America today is a rather disgusting nation. But 'land of the free' never meant unfettered freedom. The founders of the US weren't so dense as to not realize a contradiction in slavery and the principles of the US. I think there were questions of how one entered into slavery. Kidnapping and being born into slavery are difficulties. Then again children are born into all sorts of terrible circumstances whether it be family or nation. If you go to far in rejecting principles of or supporting slavery you end up with the modern nation state which exists to promote radical equality. That system has plenty of problems as we can see.
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I to am a southerner and while I do not abhor slavery I share most of your views. What is the difference in the government taking care of (insert black female name here) and her offspring from cradle to grave and me owning them as slaves and taking care of them from cradle to grave? At least they would be productive as my property. Think about it.
 Quoting: Whynow


Did you ever read 'In Defence of Virginia' or 'Liberty and Slavery'? They are two great books that are apologies for slavery. Since reading those I've been unable to see how slavery is absolutely wrong. And if it is then parenthood is wrong and so is the state. We are all born into captivity of our parents and some state. Both can compel us to work. Both can limit our freedom. Neither require our consent.

Unfortunately you can't have a meaningful conversation on the issue because people are illogical and uneducated about the facts of slavery. For instance almost everyone will immediately complain about the cruelty of whippings and the punishment for desertion. But when you bring up the fact the US Army continued to use whippings as a punishment long after slavery ended and still can execute those who desert people just respond, 'you cannot make slavery sound good, it was evil'.
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no, I haven't read those books, yet. I'm reading war crimes against southern civilians right now. I may order the books for later reading. thank you for letting me know about them.
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If a modern day general had done what that butcher sherman did, they would have been brought up on charges. That said, this country needs an amicable divorce. Less the liberals have their hippie paradise, and the rest of us can abide by the constitution. And put a wall between the two countries, so no moochers can try and sneak in.
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It is amazing how the South has always been portrayed as the folks that are backwards and unintellectual. Unfortunately, IQ is not the true gauge of someones intellect.

I am a Southerner and fully understand the ramifications of what happened during the Civil War and wish all Americans truly understood what the South stood for. It had nothing to do with slavery, which I abhor, but all about keeping us ALL out of slavery which we are ALL under today.

BTW...I tested out as a genius at an early age and was put through all of the mind game crap through my early years in California, Texas and Florida.
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clappa
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If a modern day general had done what that butcher sherman did, they would have been brought up on charges. That said, this country needs an amicable divorce. Less the liberals have their hippie paradise, and the rest of us can abide by the constitution. And put a wall between the two countries, so no moochers can try and sneak in.
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no doubt about it, Sherman ,Lincoln, his cabinet,are war criminals. might as well throw in general benjamin butler, tyrant of new Orleans. the list could go on and on.
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It is amazing how the South has always been portrayed as the folks that are backwards and unintellectual. Unfortunately, IQ is not the true gauge of someones intellect.

I am a Southerner and fully understand the ramifications of what happened during the Civil War and wish all Americans truly understood what the South stood for. It had nothing to do with slavery, which I abhor, but all about keeping us ALL out of slavery which we are ALL under today.

BTW...I tested out as a genius at an early age and was put through all of the mind game crap through my early years in California, Texas and Florida.
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clappa
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I know most of you are too simple-minded to understand, but I will try anyway...


The same guarantees are in our current Constitution! The responsibility is on the people to ensure that the government follows the Supreme Law of the Land. If you feel that the government is not adhering to the Constitution and the rights it guarantees, then it is your fault for allowing them to do so! American's today are too busy watching fake reality television and talking about celebrities and sports to pay attention to the collapse of their republic.

You do not need a new Constitution, you stupid fucks, you need to stand up and make the government obey the current one!
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It is amazing how the South has always been portrayed as the folks that are backwards and unintellectual. Unfortunately, IQ is not the true gauge of someones intellect.

I am a Southerner and fully understand the ramifications of what happened during the Civil War and wish all Americans truly understood what the South stood for. It had nothing to do with slavery, which I abhor, but all about keeping us ALL out of slavery which we are ALL under today.

BTW...I tested out as a genius at an early age and was put through all of the mind game crap through my early years in California, Texas and Florida.
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clappa
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I know most of you are too simple-minded to understand, but I will try anyway...


The same guarantees are in our current Constitution! The responsibility is on the people to ensure that the government follows the Supreme Law of the Land. If you feel that the government is not adhering to the Constitution and the rights it guarantees, then it is your fault for allowing them to do so! American's today are too busy watching fake reality television and talking about celebrities and sports to pay attention to the collapse of their republic.

You do not need a new Constitution, you stupid fucks, you need to stand up and make the government obey the current one!
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I would take the time to debate this with you but it appears it would be a waste of my time. if you had read my first post you would have seen the differences between the two constitutions.
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The same guarantees are in our current Constitution! The responsibility is on the people to ensure that the government follows the Supreme Law of the Land. If you feel that the government is not adhering to the Constitution and the rights it guarantees, then it is your fault for allowing them to do so! American's today are too busy watching fake reality television and talking about celebrities and sports to pay attention to the collapse of their republic.

You do not need a new Constitution, you stupid fucks, you need to stand up and make the government obey the current one!

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