Jehovah's Witnesses send out personal invitations globally to The Memorial Of Christ's Death- Have you received your invitation?

according to my wife it was two guys in suits that left the handbill. neither one claimed to be god or jesus

Christ's ransom is a gift from Jehovah and he holds out the invitation to all humans to benefit- One can either show appreciation for it, or not

"Keep doing this in remembrance of me"....Luke 22:18

But is your research all from the watchtower literature?

There are millions of viewpoints but you and I both know your belief is that unless someone joins your organization they will not live forever, Right? so it shouldnt just be shrugged off...

Great scripture in context! So you never touched on my earlier post about John 1:1 why do you think your prophets at the watchtower change your bible to make Jesus a lesser god/angel instead of the GOD?

My research is my own.


Reading the Bible from front to end, without any outside source shows CLEARLY that Jehovah and Jesus are separate entities,

John 1:1, even if it WERE saying Jesus is God, cannot stand against the overwhelming evidence of scripture after scripture showing Christ's submission to Jehovah

Even as a child of ten years old, I understood clearly the Father- Son concept......

One cannot tamper with the solid truth found in the Bible

The word "God" applies to false gods, Satan is called a God, even humans judges are referred to as "gods"

God, simply means a "Powerful one" of which both Satan and Jesus are

There is only one Almighty God, and that is Jehovah


"For even though there are those who are called "gods", whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many gods and many lords, there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we for him'- 1 Corinthians 8:5,6

you didn't answer my question about your research was the bible you gained all your research from the "NWT" the watchtowers interpretation of the bible? Because obviously if you used the NWT you wouldn't have any conflicting points with the watchtowers publications.

You act like it is ok for someone to change the bible to say anything they want because the are other supporting scriptures... that's not ok, they purposely changes "God" to "god" to show a title change when there own publication (The Kingdom Interlinear of the Greek Scriptures) shows that it is "God", that it is a massive change that wasn't anyone's to change. And there is tons of proof and scriptures to back up Christs Deity, but of course not in your altered bible.

If jesus was just a angel/lesser god "created" (meaning not always here) by God how is he the alph and the omega rev 22:13? i thought God was the alpha and omega...

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2He was with God in the beginning.
3All things were created through Him,
and apart from Him not one thing was created
that has been created.

John 1:14The Word became flesh
and took up residence among us.
We observed His glory,
the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father,
full of grace and truth.

it clearly shows here that Jesus (The Word) Is God but you bible NWT changes that of course you cant see it if your using false literature.

yes there are things called gods that doesn't make them a god just to be called that, but Jesus was called the God.if there is only one God and Father (1 Corinthians 8:5,6) then why is Jesus called a God unless it was a lie?

your right its not hard to believe one thing when the proof that has been show to you your whole life is a lie, its when you see that the teachings and literature are false that you realize what is really going on. i grew up the same way believing the same thing i know how easy it is to understand but i always had to fight to understand and teach it to others. That is until i saw the light and saw the true translation in the JW'S own book (the kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures) that i saw they changes the true meaning. it so easy to understand the trinity the watchtower just makes it a bad word because they dont want you to believe it. the hardest part is realizing someone has been lying to you your whole life.

How can someone be with someone and yet be them?


Nowhere does the Bible say that Jesus is "the " God



Im glad you understand the trinity, the word is nowhere to be found in the Bible

I have many translations of the Bible


If my whole life is a lie, as you judge, well, you are quite the judge,



If Jesus were God, this would be not The Memorial of Jesus Death"- But the Memorial of God's Death, and God cannot die

First of all you are judging me too by calling me that funny how that works! and im not judging you i am sharing my research i have found of the NWT and watchtowers bible. i am no judge

someone human like myself cant you forget God is almighty the is nothing he cant do. we cant fathom as humans all god is capable of. not to mention god can die as a human that was the only was to sacrifice his perfect life for us was to send himself to earth in fleshly for to die in the coss for us. its not hard to understand when you think what Christ was for us on earth, An "example" of how to praise worship god and how to spread his word that's why he mentions his father in heaven his spiritual being he showed use how to praise Him.

I hate it when the JW's say the word Trinity isn't in the bible just be cause that exact word isn't there doesn't mean it isn't real. but here are some other words not found in the bible that the witnesses use. Disfellowshipping, faithful and discrete slave, governing body, field service time, pioneer, watchtower org, cigaret use, masons, plasma transfusion, see where im going all associated with JW's but not in the bible i could go on. that was just a way to dodge the meaning behind it.

And yes Jesus is called God fist of all i already listed a scripture in john but you will need to use a real bible because NWT is altered.

Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer)
2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) - “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Isaiah 44:24 - (God created the world by His self alone)
John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things)

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins.”

John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!

Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5,6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us

Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men.

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:8,9 - But to the Son He (God) says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 1:8 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”


Hebrews 2:17,18 - “Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.”
Hebrews 4:15,16 - “For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”
1 Peter 2:24 - “who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we having died to sins, might live for righteousness - by whose stripes you were healed.”

He went from sovereignty to shame and from deity to death? Why!? For you.
John 15:13 - “Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.”
Romans 5:8 - “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”


Sorry hear are a few that i found in a bible that you said there were none. very easy to understand. no watchtower needed...

Yeah, no kidding, .............

Well they DID do that to him, he was rejected by many and of course, still is

True, at least people know they are invited

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Is this what you were trying to post?

yes thank you

That Rap guy was doing pretty good until he got to the part where "God sent himself as Jesus Christ"

Im sure his intentions were good though

It's a good message, the entire video.

Here is a more accurate version of a rap song:

IF ya Wanna live forever
And ya donna Wanna die
Then ya gotta quit believin
that great big lie....

That Jesus is God
That ain't the truth, no way
Ya wont find that in the Bible
But here's what the Bible DOES say:



God sent his Son Jesus
That's what the Bible does say
Yeah he gave his life for humans
That's how the Ransom was paid

So you are cordially invited
To commemorate that special day
The Memorial of his death
That takes all our sins away

You're very welcome. Think you had it fixed before I posted though. First time I clicked, they didn't work. By the time I posted, one worked. 8)

wow did that song make it into your song book?

the problem with your song is your still denying that its not in the bible, did you really not see the massive list of scriptures backing it up or did you just want to act like it never happened much like most the real questions people ask that the witnesses just dance around. everything is serious with all JW's till it actually gets serious

This says it best, from Christ Himself:



"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17

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2 questions

1 can you show me a scripture where he said i am not God?

2 do you believe Jesus is Michael the arch angel?

I guess that is why you still haven't been created yet, shown your true natural soul in its restoration to the Father, and given your new name Identity, because you overlook this here.

3All things were created (through Him),
and apart from Him not one thing was created
that has been created.

Instead, you lean on man to get you there.

"Jesus spoke these things, and, raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you, 2 according as you have given him authority over all flesh, that, as regards the whole [number] whom you have given him, he may give them everlasting life. 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. 4 I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. 5 So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." Jo17:1

Why, no. No, I haven't. And, my neighbor is JW and leave stuff on my door all the time. I am disappointed. Guess, I wasn't one of the chosen.

As if the scripture I just posted did not say enough:



"Once more the Jews lifted up stones to stone him. 32 Jesus replied to them: “I displayed to YOU many fine works from the Father. For which of those works are YOU stoning me?” 33 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy, even because you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “YOU are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified, 36 do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son? 37 If I am not doing the works of my Father, do not believe me. 38 But if I am doing them, even though YOU do not believe me, believe the works, in order that YOU may come to know and may continue knowing that the Father is in union with me and I am in union with the Father."- John 10:31-38

Hey, I KNOW, go knock on your JW Witness neighbor door and ask for an invitation!!!! Play a joke on him!!!!!!

(He might have assumed that someone else gave you one)

DO IT!!!!! Knock on his door and say "where is my invitation"

SO TRUE!

Its's A trap no!!!!!!!!

That is a great EXAMPLE of how we should talk to god, didnt see anything saying i am not GOD. to many more scriptures leading to the trinity.

Actually it never said I am not GOD... that was the question the same way your being critical about the trinity. but i gave plenty of scriptures supporting Christs deity. i will repost them in case you missed them because there is no doubt that what they mean.

again there are two questions neither have been answered. please don't dance around questions your faith is nothing to be ashamed of.



Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last)

Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer)
2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) - “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Isaiah 44:24 - (God created the world by His self alone)
John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things)

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 5:17,18 - “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins.”

John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

John 14:6-7 - Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5,6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us)

Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men.

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:8,9 - But to the Son He (God) says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 1:8 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”


Hebrews 2:17,18 - “Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.”
Hebrews 4:15,16 - “For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”
1 Peter 2:24 - “who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we having died to sins, might live for righteousness - by whose stripes you were healed.”

He went from sovereignty to shame and from deity to death? Why!? For you.
John 15:13 - “Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.”
Romans 5:8 - “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

No it would be funny!