April 7, Tonight, (at sundown) is seven days til April 14, sundown = Passover for all People

And also in reply to 3306, I meant that reply in response to your first paragraph, above

I knew nothing of all of this, both of your replies have amazing tie-ins, and information relating to this !
Thank you both very much!
I am unclear about the strike/strake test? what was avoided? Tsunami?

I have to go for now but I will try to return tonight, hopefully, to respond to many of the comments that I still have not had chance to read/reply to yet, thank you

this is the calendar which explains the Abib Barley and New Moon sightings.

I feel at first confusion and concern about this for many years, many years ago. New Moon, (Dark) or New Moon Crescent?

But after reading it thoroughly, the Karaite Jews are the ones who have to my knowledge been the most dedicated to biblical truths, biblical instructions, since they go by the bible, and not mankind's traditions, at all.

In the bible it says that the moon was given to us for the knowing of times and of seasons, appointments with IAUE also.

Things like the moon and other things were given to make life knowable, to make things easier for us, (light at night from the moon for instance) and how are we guaranteed to know if a month has begun, if we can not see the moon at all, because it is still a totally dark new moon, in complete darkness, the whole round? What if the 3 months of Jan, Feb and March were stormy, dark, overcast, and no one could see when one month new moon (dark moon, astronomically dark is a 'new moon')
and there broke out doubts, and fights, this would be madness and confusion. Why would IAUE do that to us? He said he gave us the moon and the sun for seasons, to know the times, and the seasons/appointments.

We can see the first sliver of a crescent as soon as it rises on that day. This is a sign, for us to 'know' for sure when a month is started.
The moon should be visibly useful and helpful to our 'knowing' and if it is not yet a sliver crescent to be seen, there is still doubt as to when a month started, if you do not have computers and telescopes... they went on seeing it by eye, for most of history.
I know it has been used by people to glorify a bad religious destructive doctrine, most of history, but that is not to detract from the moon's original, good helpful purpose!

Are we on the same plane supposed to hate bunnies because they are used by people to symbolise the Goddess, who is defintely against us, and fertility? No! Bunnies are made by IAUE and Yahushua, they love them, and we love them too!

The crescent moon has to be, and is seen in the biblical language instructing us, the word, for new moon, implies that which you can see, someting visible to us.

Otherwise, it is just too way too hard... if it is not a visible sliver of a new moon.
We know astronomically, it is a dark moon, a new moon, but for the intent and purpose of IAUE for us to know his times, it has to be the sighted, visible sliver.

Pleas see this, if you are thinking that Passover will be on the 13th, instead of the 14th, it may be helpful, I am still wanting to find out more about the calendars those people are using, as we all need to find out for certain why people say and do and believe these things. WE need to know.
But this Karaite Judaism is not according to Manmade traditions, that is proof that they are on the Biblical right track.
They only go by the Scriptures, and have suffered for this by man.
here is the website, their history is a good place, to start, and to see their statement of beliefs.
Then go to Abib, and New Moon in the Bible, that is the crux of the matter here I think
Well, Thank you! I have not had a chance to reply to all the good comments, I appreciate all of them, very much and will be back as soon as I can! :D Shalom, peace, and L'Chaim, and may IAUE bless all of you out there, you are His sheep, in many folds all over the earth.

Sorry, link to Karaite biblical new moon reckoning per scriptures [link to www.karaite-korner.org]

Also another thought, what do you think Yahushua means when he told the disciples,

"I have sheep that are not of this fold"

Well, of course he does. But what exactly could he mean by this obvious, (not so obvious?) statement? He sounds quite cryptic to me.. .. hehe, he even says like he meant for us to wonder.. about it.

Also

"I have many things to tell you, .... but ye can not bear them yet".

I wonder what things he wished the Disciples could bear hearing?

What do you think?

(did the first statement possibly allude to creatures not of this planet? aliens?) just wondering what our Messiah did mean by that inscrutable sentence... it is mysterious to me.

What'cha all think? Thank you again! Shalom! Peace! Love to you

New Moon in the Bible: [link to www.karaite-korner.org]

it's very good, explanatory, easy to read and straight to the point

I know you must be thinking that the new moon is the dark moon, and not the crescent moon. I used to be thinking this too.
But plase read this, biblical new moon in the Bible:
[link to www.karaite-korner.org]
and you may find that it makes more sense
The Karaite Jews are not following the manmade traditions at all, only use Scriptures.

Plus with the Passover Blood Red Moons, this year, and next year, on Passover (sighted crescent moon used for beginning of the first month, and then, counting to the 14th day of the first month)

plus the blood red moons in the fall of both these years, 2014 and 2015
I think it cannot be doubted any more; that is my opinion, of course, but it is also according the Biblical evidence, etymology of 'new moon', visible moon, moon given to us for signs and seasons, appointed times: IAUE does not want us to be in the dark regarding His appointments, He didn't want us to be confused, and the sighting of the crescent moon is the only old way of reckoning. Also, in the Passover of Yahushua's death, there is no mention, as far as I know, of there being 2 differing days of Passover. Right? So at least on that year, there is no controversy. Also, there was a blood red moon eclipse then too on that passover of his death and the total solar eclipse at his death.

this year seems to be with next year, one of those years, when there is no doubt as to when Passover begins, this to me is a sign from IAUE regarding His signs in the heavens and the calendar sync-up!
[link to www.karaite-korner.org] you will find this helpful I think

Shalom, good studying, read and pray to be led to the truth about all of this. We are expected to know it, so it is possible to get it! He is helping us to see it!
He doesn't want there to be any room for doubts, or error, it seems this and next years!

This person is still right, the evening of the 14th, from all the clear biblical and heavenly evidence and signs.

No, seven days, starting with evening of the 14th, April 14th, at evening, the Passover starts.
The days of unleavenened bread start then, by the way, and go thru the evening of the 21st, not the 22nd.

On the 22nd, which starts in the sundown of the 21st, (last day of unleavened bread) it is over. Then you can begin to eat unleavened, yeasted breads again.

This is also for health reasons, it happens to work out for health reasons, as this is the time when there is a lot of fungus, molds and mildew, spores in the air, being poked up out of the dark, wet earth, for the first time since last fall...so we have a lot of toxic particles to contend with. This week of unleavened bread, (eating brown rice, no leavening yeast, which is a fungus)
helps our bodies to cope with this spring assault on our immune systems.

AC 4323 here is the link to get you right to the actual calendar, so you can see the days counted .. if you go to those other links above, you can see their easy Biblical clear method of reckoning, using the Scriptures alone.

Calendar of April Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread, 14th at evening, begins,

and goes thru to April 21, ending that day, in the evening, at sundown, on April 21st. Then, at that time, it is ended.

Not the 22nd at sundown, (not!) but the 21st at sundown, by the way, IS the start of the 22nd. Maybe that is where the confusion lies.

But see the calendar to be clear, in your own mind:
It is here clear for us: [link to www.karaite-korner.org]

I hope this is helpful. It takes some getting used, to, Iknow, I still have to count out each day from sundown to sundown, each separate day, drawn out on a calendar to be sure. That is because we were not brought up this way, and these concepts of Bible are foreign to us, sadly.

We are being shown by IAUE our Own Father, clearly in the heavens though! That should encourage you! All of us.!

Thing is, There are still prophecies to be fulfilled before the end can come.
The ones that come to mind are that the sun must become black as sackcloth, and also the river euphrates drying up to make way for the kings of the east.

Now the river HAS practically dried up, but we still need to see the kings of the east march across it.
We also need to see the utter destruction of Damascus as an indicator.

Thoughts?

OP, how do you reconcile Exodus 12:18 where it states ". . . UNTIL the 21st day at even"? The hebrew for "until" is "ad" and it means "as far as" or "up against".

"Even" means twilight, inter-braiding or mingling" of light and dark. The picture one sees is after the disc of the sun descends below the visible horizon and before total darkness (when the stars are visible).

What is implied is at the start or beginning of the 14th day not at towards the end of it as is commonly taught by the rabbis of judaism and the Karaites.

This would make sunday at sunset the beginning of the 14th day of Abib and not monday at sunset.

Deut 16:4 states that the sacrifice is performed in the FIRST DAY. If you observe a 14th of Abib killing of the Passover lambs then eat it on the 15th you are in direct violation of when to keep the Passover as it can not involve both the 14th and the 15th.

Thank you for your questions. I think the 21st day at even, is clear. April 21st, in the eveing? Or am I wrong?

I see what you are saying now, this used to come up before me too.. and I must confess I have forgotten the outcome ... I will go now and read it again, about the first day.

You are saying that they sacrificed the lamb before sunset, and ate it before sunset on the 14th day before sunset then?

boy I feel confused... but don't worry, we will find the truth of it, I am sure.
I will read it again and return as soon as possible, keep reading keep questioning Thank you again, Shalom and safety to you all, IAUE will help us all to understand all these things. I was feeling certain, til you bring this up again, and I find I cannot remember each word like I should now, after all these years... now I have to go study it again .. once more :D

But just a quick clarification of what I thought/think, so far,

on the 14th day of the first month, at even, you kill the lamb in the evening.

This is the first day of Passover then. In the first day, at even the lamb is killed, and roasted dry. They eat it for supper soberly that same evening. By dark, then, they probably eat it.
This is still the first day.

I don't see the problem again.

I'll try to return later in the even.

I lost sight of the problem ... temporarily.

You think that it starts on the 13th, in the evening? because of the ambiguity in 14th day, at even?

There is really no ambiguity in the meaning of the 14th at even. The talmudaen pharisees were perpetuating the error of considering the afternoon portion of the 14th of Abib as "even" or "between the evens" and thus pushing the night of the Passover to the 15th of Abib rather than what Yah prescibes in the ordinance of the Passover found in Exodus 12 and reinforced in Deut 16 and elsewhere.

"Even" is the period between sunset and total darkness. This period is at the beginning or start of a new day. The confusion lies with how the tradition developed into the afternoon portion of a day. If it were the afternoon portion, what is the terminus point? In other words, what is the exact time of the turning of the new day? It cannot be an ambiguous time as taught through rabbinical error of anytime between 12 noon and sunset. That is confusion! Now on the other hand when you see the disc of the sun disappear below the horizon that is the observers terminus and is the precise moment of the start of a new day from the perspective of that person in his/her unique location.

Hence, sunday April 13th when the sun goes down is when we are instructed to kill the Passover in the Torah. That night it is to be eaten and if anything is left over, it is to be burned with fire by sunrise the next morning. The Israelites where instructed to not leave their dwellings that night and could only do so after the sun came up the next morning! Therefore, they did not leave that night. The scripture is clear that they began their journey out of Mitzraim by night and not during the daylight portion of a day and that night, we are told is the night of the 15th of Abib, after the High Shabbath day of the 14th of Abib, Passover proper.

The instructions were clear as "no manner of work can be done on either of the High Shabbath days of the Feast of Unleavened (Bread). ONLY THAT WHICH EVERYONE MUST EAT, the Passover meal, could be done as it is blameless work as is the cooking done by the Levites in their service to Yah. Therefore, it was the only work one could do during that 24 hour period of time. Packing up your household and placing burdens on yourselves and your pack animals and wagons is considered work that would not have been allowed on that High Shabbath Day of Passover . . . the 14th of Abib.

The scripture is clear, the 14th of Abib is the Passover and not the 15th of Abib.

If you check Leviticus 23 regarding the 14th is the Passover and the 15th is the "feast", you will find that the word is "chagag" in the Hebrew. The meaning is that of a joyful precession or movement of people (going by memory here, so forgive me for not citing actual). It does not mean, in the Hebrew, that it is the first day of Unleavened Bread! It is merely another way of showing the reader which day they picked up and left out of Mitzraim!

The Israelites would have been resting on the 14th day and not doing any work. With that in mind, it is very easy to understand why the Mitzraites became "urgent" upon them to get out of there. They were not moving! At least, not until sunset on the 15th day of Abib. Then, they could have lawfully began to perform the work necessary to move their households and load burdens on themselves and their animals.

I hope this helps to clarify what Torah actually tells us so that we do not follow after the same errors of the rabbinical teachings. Yahushua said that the Rabbi's were right that we must keep the Torah, but we were NOT to use their examples and discernments as our own!

what is supposed to be done [if anything] in the 7 days leading to Passover ?

[a little late to ask but it wasn't clear]

Exactly; a lot lines up this month. The Hebrew dates are equivalent to the Gregorian dates i.e. April 14th = Nissan 14 and so on. And the night of Passover on the calculated Jewish calendar is the same night as the full moon, between the 14th and 15th, and the full moon / eclipse occurs close to exactly halfway between sunset and sunrise around 1am on the weet coast.

Lol, Shalom to you (above video proferer) and thank you! LOL

I appreciated that. But - that is what we have been actually doing all these years, for I think, dangerously too long... for our sakes and our children's sakes...

Letting it be, we have become complacent, and lulled to sleep by our preachers. Now it is the time, (at hand, as prophesied, as Rachel says, below, the time is at a point in history that our Creators are DEMANDING THAT WE LOOK UP, AND NOTICE WHAT HAS BEEN KEPT HIDDEN FROM US ALL THESE YEARS!, even thru songs, 'let it be' we can apply that to the wrong things, 'cause this is the time that if we say to ourselves, 'I cannot figure this out, the subject is alrady too complicated, see the Jews don't even agree, and my pastor says it is only for the Jews, and is obsolete, (he is putting the Jews down by saying they are so stupid as not to know that actually Passover is OBSOLETE! ~ WHAT BRAZEN, SHAMELESS ARROGANT PRIDE AND SHEER INSANITY IS THAT ATTITUDE on the part of our 'leaders' in our chosen religion to say such things! over our dead bodies should we trust them now after such things have been shoved down our throats.

by the way, I just got in, read the last replies by Rachel, and the other three, and this video made me laugh and ponder since I glanced at it yesterday, before I had to leave. (sorry didn't get a chance to listen to it yet, or any videos yet, or answer all the replies, but I am going to do my best for I think 1 1/2 hours here and will be trying to get us more information. I see the person above has replied thankfully to give us the problem which I do remember being so puzzled by years ago, and then, thinking the Jews had got it wrong all this time, and then, trying to keep both (separating the days and the sacrifice on the 14th being earlier, or even a day before, from the 1st day of unleavened bread, etc. ) and the resolution of the problem came, to me, (I think by reading the Karaite beliefs and practices and history) but I have forgotten the details, as it was in a time of high stress and trauma, and I have subsequently had all my research materials stolen from me and discarded... (family collusion, criminal acts, etc.)
even now, I am working with a severe handicap, which is terribly detracting, my Strong's Exhaustive concordance was among those things, taken, and even my grandmother's own bible she had given me when I was 13, all taken and discarded.
So that is why this is more difficult than it should be - if anyone has a Strong's Exhaustive concordance, please, help us out with this problem above, brought up by the replies the other few days.

But the thing is, I feel, if we are not sure, even down to the evening of the 14th, please keep it, as we have next year to do this again, and all year in-between to find out the resolution, Scripturally, of this problem that many people bring up. And we are trying. We are sincerely trying to figure it out. We cannot let it be, (really), but we do not have the time (?) this week, to find out everything, unless IAUE helps us all to see it from proof, really fast, before the 13th at evening, or the midday at the 14th day. If this is the case with you, please do not worry right now, because I have seen this problem, resolved it to the best of my then-known ability, and we are still researching the issue now. If the answer is proved to us, we will go with that proof. But the Karaite Jews are the ones who kept the law according to the Bible, The Torah, only. They were the ones who would have known what is correct, and what is traditional Rabbinical (unscriptural, often) practices, and they rejected those. They were persecuted for this belief in only following the Scriptural words and historical type of the Passover. They study.

If anyone were to know the ways of IAUE per scripture alone, and from history alone, it would be the Karaite Jews. If you read their beliefs and their history on that website above, (Karaite Korner) you will understand that this is the best we have to go by, unless and til more evidence comes and we are able to actually prove it to be more correct, than the information they already have. If we do not have time to do research now, since Passover is coming upon us soon, (all we are doing now is reading about it and preparing for the 7 days of unleavened bread, cleaning houses, getting spiritually prepared for what is to come, this year, this passover, spiritually we are getting ready to mourn and to accept the blood he shed for us, his agony he suffered by the world's sytem, (those who institute and work for it) and to be ready for the spiritual deliverance, which will be turned into physical deliverance, for IAUE has always said this would be how it will be for us in these days of vengeance and wrath coming.

"Tho a thousand shall fall by thy side, and ten thousand at thy right side, it shall not come nigh thee". ~ (the destruction to come, the wrath upon the earth's wicked)

So, I am concerned about this problem, but let us see how we can study it to make sure we are being correct about Passover, and if we all sincerely try to determine the truth, it will not be hid from us. It will be made clear, shown to us, plainly. Then we can breath a more comfortable sigh of relief.

We are trying, that is the thing that is important to IAUE.
He will lead us to the whole truth, in the time we need it if we keep trying.

So far, I say, it seems that it shouldn't be that difficult. Some things we are mistaken in, and do not know it for a long time. However, if we stay diligent, and keep studying and finding out and asking and verifying, we can not stay in any mistakes forever.

This is the whole duty of man, it says in the bible. To find out the will of IAUE.

so that is what 'with (a little) help of our friends' we are trying to do! :D thank you for the Beatles calming sogng.

We will let it be after Passover if we are not sure, we will go on seeking the whole truth of this matter.

Next year is the big one, I think. This is huge, but I think there is next year to be even huger. This is vital, we must not miss keeping this, on the date which is being signalled in the sky this year, we need to be shut in our houses and not go out, til morning.

That is another mistake I made: it is thought by some that since Pharaoh told Moses and Aaron after midnight to get the people out of Egypt, and they were all waiting with their shoes on (at least the adults were, the children were probably sleeping, as is only humane) we thought on another thread (March Black Moon, spring Equinox) and I said over there that they ending up leaving Egypt in the dark after midnight some time, in the wee hours. Because that seems to be the tradition? But I was reading it again in the last 5 days, and it says they were told to stay in and not come out til morning. Because of the destroyer angel going to pass by outside, not safe to go out then.

! So, the Destroyer Angel (Yahushua?) of IAUE was in the area, the vicinity, and it was not safe to be outside, you must stay indoors all the night, after the supper of lamb and herbs and with shoes on, not go out til the morning. So they left in the morning. When is the morning? I guess, when the sun starts coming up... dawn? I do not know. But it was not I guess in the pitch black dark, otherwise, the command would be different. This said 'until the morning'.

And that is how it was in the movie "Moses" with Charlton Heston too! :D

Exactly; a lot lines up this month. The Hebrew dates are equivalent to the Gregorian dates i.e. April 14th = Nissan 14 and so on. And the night of Passover on the calculated Jewish calendar is the same night as the full moon, between the 14th and 15th, and the full moon / eclipse occurs close to exactly halfway between sunset and sunrise around 1am on the weet coast.


Yes. Thank you. Comet Siding Spring as well! Also Siding Spring Comet will align exactly next year at the same Feast/Commemoration, during the blood-red moon eclipse!

this next year Passover alignment has Mars too with the Sun, Earth, Moon, Siding Spring, and Mars!

These things are not by coincidental chance! We are being told - shown, signalled, this year and next year are vital to all of us to keep these important, vital appointments IAUE commanded thousands of years ago, forever to be observed.
We cannot miss this signal these signs are for us, now to come back to IAUE's ancient paths.

the children's hearts (people today) will be turned back, towards the Hearts of the Fathers (patriarchs of the Old Testament, should be called IAUE's Covenant and Immutable Laws of Life!) lest He smite the earth with a curse!


'Seek ye the ancient paths...' ~ where that is Idk... can someone help us with those verses? Thank you we appreciate all helps on this

Nothing except to I guess read the Exodus account, first, (this is what seems the most logical, as it was the first Pass-over by the Angel of IAUE, The Destroyer, The Angel of Death, Yahushua I think may be this angel? who is also the Deliverer of the Hebrew slaves)

and then as you read, Matthew 24 and onward, it will put you in a mind-frame which will make Passover itself more meaningful to you, and all sorts of tie-ins when you are keeping the memorial commanded to us that evening and night, and following 7 days of unleavened bread) you will be sent these thoughts and tie-ins which will feed your inner man/spirit, which is I think, the hidden manna from heaven, sent to your place by the angels who work for IAUE and King Yahushua.

And to begin thinking about (preparing for the unleavened part, removing the leaven from your house, car, yard, food)
which things you have a lot of, which have yeast or baking soda, or baking powder in them, and gradually using them up, or discarding them... and buying your food you can eat which doesn't have any of those leavening agents in them during this week so that it is not stressful when you find a box of baking soda in the freezer of cupboard after Passover evening...

If you want to start reading in the Matthew account, you may prefer to begin there, this week.

Then go to Exodus.

then, during the Passover you can re-read them, with your companions, children, friends, or by yourself. And in Daniel, Malachi, John, Revelation are also many allusions and prophesies which directly show the things we are shown in the Passover memorial.

In fact the Passover memorial is so important, you could actually think that the entire plan of IAUE an Yahushua is seen in the things of Passover that happened, and will yet happen.

All the message of the bible is really drawn up strongly in this one event, the Passover, it is a foreshadowing, the original one, of what the plan would entail, involve, later, with King Yahushua coming to earth for our sakes,

and the Passover then, foreshadows what will be the events to come upon the earth, I feel, the things to occur, regarding us, (believers in IAUE and King Yahushua, their word, the deeds done for us, the history of their trying to work out a redemption for us in spite of ourselves and the Devil, men, demons and the kings of the earth; Their plans, the things to come as we read in Scriptures what we must be doing and watching for to escape these things to come upon the earth)

in the (near) future. The Passover is all of that, in a precise, succinct, nutshell - but a very strong nut it is, very strong meat, not for the faint of heart...

I know how you feel I feel the same ... yet, we shouldn't think that it must entail our deaths, because IAUE's words all thru the Bible are telling us that we should 'watch and pray and do' so this 'thief' or 'the visitation' does not come upon us unawares... if we are preparing, and studying diligently, praying to IAUE in Yahushua's name for guidance and protection and help, those prayers are heard, and all of heaven works to help you get the protections and answers to your prayers, never doubt. It is true many believers will (and are being, and have been) be put to death for their faith in these truths, but that is to not be a discouragement to us, because all the world is going to die for a lie, so it is much better to die for the truth, and then, the resurrection. Evil men who are inspired by demons, (the Devil is their master) do not like truth-believers, and they hate those who stand up for truth, and devise all kinds of plans against them, and will murder many of them. But this is in itself a very honourable way to go. Many have gone before this very way, and they are given rewards in heaven, (or maybe they are alive in heaven now? I can only think that these are the saints returning with King Yahushua at the second coming, ? confused about that, since it says the dead in the graves who believed faithfully will be raised at the last trump - so they are not alive now, it seems) but they may be raised and with Yahushua first long enough to (in an instant?) return to gather us up with them, before the burning of the tares. It could all happen in one instant.

But if you can stay alive it would be better for all of us as you can help other people to learn the truth and escape a bad death at least, even if they are going to be resurrected, as many will be, not having been shown the truth in their lifetimes, so they will get another chance, hopefully... if they escaped the Beast Mark-taking and worshipping the Dragon? This part is a scary thing, because if you do not know the truth in the first place, then what will you find objectionable about a clever, beautiful-seeming Entity or God, who is so adept at speaking lies to us to get us to believe, ... what is standing in our minds against that, to deter us from worshipping such a God?

I do not like this one bit. It is better to be alive, learn what the Beast is, not be murdered, and vigilantly, dilgently, unceasingly study, watch, and teach the truth of IAUE to the sheep, so they WILL KNOW WHAT IS COMMANDED OF THEM TO DO, to live and worship IAUE according to His Ways and His Words, of Old, Ancient times (not taught to us in church), and conversely, WHAT NOT TO DO, (not to take the worship of the Dragon, the beast, the image of the Beast and the mark and number of his name).

So please do not be enthusiastic about being murdered, dear friend and warrior, because we need you. If it happens, and you cannot prevent it, speak the truth for your last words, to the world. This is an honour. IAUE will honour you forever for that last act of your faith and courage.

However, if you can avoid it, it is better to live and to do things that are needed by people such as you!

Praise IAUE forever for He loved you and made you. May IAUE lead you in all the truth He wants us to have.

Let Thy will be done. Thank you, in King Yahushua's name we pray to you, Father IAUE.
Please help your people.

Shalom and thank you. I have just read this, and not even all of it very well, just now. This does clarify two things that I had always had trouble with, even to this day.

1) How could the people leave and do no work on a day of no work, and I thought that on Passover (day one of unleavened bread) is not work allowed, no labour. Moving is all about labour, animals, people carrying things, babies, children. I questioned about this, but this answers that part.

2) The Not going out of their dwellings til morning part. I was just talking about this, I had said on another thread that they left at night, then, I thought they must have not left since this command not to leave their dwellings all night, til morning, made that wrong.

This is really confusing. This seems to clear it up, yet, there is one thing that this does not clear up, if the Passover is supposed to be on the 13th (which would be lamb sacrificed in the evening, which would be exactly true according to scriptures, to be 'On the 14th day of the first month, at even...' ye shall have your Passover...

So they wake up, (yet Moses did not tell them yet that they were going to have to pack up that day, to be ready, to move the next night, right? that is another question, did they know inadvance to do this packing not allowed on the first day of unleavened bread, which we all thought was the first day of Passover?)\

The Destroyer goes at midnight (of techinically, the Roman midnight, thru Egypt, then, of the 13th/turns 14th. They do not leave all night from their houses. This is still Passover Day, Day of Pass-over, (right?) on the 14th day, that morning, til sundown. They then can do labour, pack up after sundown, which is the beginning of the first day of unleavened bread? (Were they allowed to have leavened bread on the Pssover meal, and was the bread Yahushua broke during that meal, leavened bread possibly? It would seem so... unless they break unleavened bread the same way, I thought last night... maybe we are wrong.)

But there is another thing. The Destroyer goes thru at midnight that night after the lamb's meal, and blood is on their doors.

that does not line up with the blood red moon this Passover on the NEXT night.

Are we wrong, then, thinking what the Blood Red Symbolises?

I am very glad you are helping us with this. This was the issue before, I did not understand many things years ago about this conundrum. This is a conundrum. There is somthing we are wrong or mistaken about, that much is known.

About this, (Passover on the 13th, or 14th; if the Passover is on the 13th at even (beginning of the 14th Day, and the Destroyer as it passed by their houses yet slayed the firstborn of the non-believers in IAUE, is not symbolised by the blood-red moon this midnight and thereafter on the night of the regularly-kept-and-understood-Passover, then, what is the blood-red moon symbolising, as it is not on the night the Destroyer went by?
Am I assuming too much that it symbolises the Redeemer's blood, and the blood to be let by the Destroyer, on that night, the blood?
I do not understand something. Help us to understand, please.

We are in the dark about something
thank you for your helpful post.

Can any Jews on here who believe in the Messiah Yahushua please explain this to us? What is wrong with the scenarios we have put above? The 14th at evening, (being the beginning of the 15th day presents these conundrums/problems: work not being allowed. and others _________________________?

And if it is suppsed to be on the 13th day sacrificed, and eaten on the evening meal (which is the beginning of the 14th day, ) then there is the discrepancy of this upcoming Passover date with the blood red moon not lining up with the symbolic blood shed and covering the doorposts...

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The Blood Red Moon Eclipse (this is hard since my screen changed to tiny, teeny letters I cannot tell what I am writing except by feel, it is microscopic)

is happening after midnight on Passover night, Passover being evening of April 14, turning to Roman April 15, at midnight, that night, from 12:06 thru about 1:30 ~ on the est coast, and 3 hours later seen on the West Coast...

seen all over the USA (Rachel, did I get that right, thank you Rachel)

I cannot tell what I am writing with this microscopic changed screen...

I will try to come back later, this is a disturbing question. We are missing something re: Passover. What is it?

Help!

Rachel, can you tell us?

Thank you very very much, this is not supposed to be a conundrum at all...

Shalom, Blessings to all of you, IAUE help us all to figure out what is wrong in these scenarios

Rachel! help us darling girl, you can do it I know... anyone who helps us figure these problems out, please know you are needed and we are very grateful to you.

Jews need to help us we are in the dark with this...
I love you all, thank you for your questioning and your studying and your trying, IAUE loves you all beyond imagining
okay, i'll have to come back later, this is impossible to read

If you don't mind, my fellow searcher of Yah, I would like to share with you an observation in what you have said thus far. I have made the same mistake in looking for an example of how to keep his ancient ways in men. I am not saying you will not find it, but that we are instructed to receive by faith that we do not need a man to teach us anything and that is the job of the Ruah ha Chadosh/Holy Spirit. 1 John 2:27 confirms this! If we look to any man, let it be Yahushua himself as our teaching example in all things. If in fact he did show us how to keep the Torah, then wouldn't you suppose that he showed us when to keep the Passover? Makes sense, doesn't it?

I myself, will always look to his example as he lived it FIRST to find how to keep Yahuwah's ways. If we try to find an example in men, we will certainly stumble every time.

In short, do not settle with looking to the Karaites/Nehemiah Gordon for your instructions in righteousness. Look to Yahushua himself, through the gentle leading of his Ruah dwelling in you and teaching you all things!

Another piece of advice: If someone is uncertain as to which night to keep (sunday or monday night/14th or 15th of Abib) I say to you that would might just be a wise decision to keep both nights . . . keep both days as Shabbaths. Did not King Shaul do the same in regards to which night to keep the New Moon as told in 1 Samuel Chapter 20? Since a month can be either 29 or 30 days, according to the sighted crescent moon, then it makes perfect sense that they would have made provisions to keep both nights just in case.

Let Yah's Ruah be your spectacles to discern clearly what He wants to teach you in His written word. You will find your true brothers and sisters in MoshYah Yahushua if you do!

Thank you very much my friend and brother, or sister in YAH.

That is the most logical and merciful and correct suggestion in this situation. Unless we can find out for certain before those dates (April 13, sundown and April 14, sundown)

I do not wish to be a weakling, even though I dread this (keeping both days as the first day, it is not easy to say the least.. I have done this before and it is not fun...but this isn't for fun, is it.. it is to please Yah and obey, and this is the only way, if we don't know for sure which day He meant for us to keep as the first day, to cover both possibilities. We either can do this, or to choose one, and risk chooseing the wrong one. That will be overlooked in the case of many, but what if it is one of those times that if you are wrong, you may be totally sincerely believing you are correct, but you have to pay with your life? These blood moons make me nervous.

I hope we can find out for certain before that, but if we do not come to a definite proven clear answer on this, beyond all shadow of doubt, your suggestion is the best thing to do.

If in case we cannot this time find out for sure before this Passover is upon the world, perhaps we treat those two days of a sabbath as you said, as learning and studying opportunity, and just read as much as you can in all the biblical places, about Passover and other things related to it. I will try to put a list here... and anyone who would add to it, (things to read related to Passover, the sealing, the Destroyer, the Name, the deliverance via miraculous intervention, the seals, vials, bowls, Revelation, Daniel, and other places it alludes to Passover)

then, those days are not going to be burdens, but sort of like a sabbatical of intense study and prayer.
Yes this will be hard, but - the end of days are upon us, and if staying home, not answering worldly duties and keeping these two days beginning 13th at evening thru 14th at evening, therefore thru the 15th at evening which includes both possibilities, is too hard, then, we are hopelessly undisciplined and lack resolution. This will be hard for many people to do, but if you put yourself into the study of this then, it will go by (too) fast... and knowledge is never 'carried on the back' as my great grandmother used to tell my grandmother as a girl. KNowledge is never a burden always a benefit.. some day it will come in handy, prevent disaster, changing lives or save life.

Thank you very much. I just got here about 25 minutes ago, so I can be here til 9:pm eastern time, which is not much.

There is so much for us to learn, quickly, eh? Thank you for your kind response, Yahushua's example is what I try to see, too, but we can not know everything going on in those times, only guess sometimes, from the butchered bibles we have after the Church Fathers' editing and discarding...
The Karaite Jews do not accept Yahushua yet, (someday hopefully soon they will?) but I wonder what they would say if they were honestly looking at the account in Matthew? And other places? At that time I understand the Jews were keeping it the proper Torah way of reckoning, they did not change the calendar as far as I know from new moon sightings and barley abib reckoning of the date of Passover til after Yahushua was murdered, long afterward, about 200-900 years later I think, at least. So in his time of keeping Passover, this problem was understood, (which day the 13th at evening, (beginning of the 14th day) or the 14th at evening, (beginning of the 15th day)...we ought to be able to find out from those accounts. Is this possible? I am ashamed that I do not know this by heart yet. People here like you may know exactly what we are looking for, to use as the proof he did it one day or the other.

Is this possible to know from the varying accounts of what we have left in the Bible? Is it clear from many allusions and deductions? I simply do not think I have time to find out myself, since I do not have internet or laptop and have to use another computer when I can, plus no Strong's Concordance any more.

Thank you for your precious kind and good help here for us, I love you for all this. May IAUE bless and keep you and yours safely thru all of this to come, we are all grateful to you for your love for us all and your spirit of Yah.
I will be here for about 1/2 hour more, til Saturday, will be the next time probably, will look forward to seeing any replies from any of you, and what you think and find to further this investigative endeavor.

Thank you very much again, from all of us, May Yah bless you all, Shalom, and L'Chaim, Love and health and truth forever to you all

Sorry, i should have typed, 'to keep both days as the first day is not EASY' (not easy instead of not fun - we know this is not for fun, the whole memorial is a sober one, not fun)

what it was when I ended up keeping both is since you do not know which is really the right one, you doubt the first one, thinking it is the next one, then, by the time the next one comes, you are so tired, and spiritually worn out (the stress of not knowing probably adds to the fatigue of spirit) so it is not easy...in my experience, for newcomers especially. I hope and pray we can find out the true right one beforetime.

But - if they use it to study as said above, the extra day will be put to a very good use, to find the truth of Yah, which is our whole duty according to Yahueh Himself.

Two days of fully trying to find out from Scriptures what day it is, is not easy, but it is necessary, .. can people do this/will people do this? I hope it does not scare them off.

We are approaching the days of vengeance, so it should be accepted this will be the best thing to do for ourselves and our loved ones/brothers out there, if we can do this.

Thank you again, just wanted to clear up my mistake up there: it is not easy, (definitely not a fun thing, Passover is never that) but it should be something we can all do, knowing the days we live in especially. IAUE help us to be strong and do what's right in Thy sight in this situation
Thank you again, my friend, you are a true son of Yahueh