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American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)

 
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if its true russia tv will promote the shit out of this. untill that happens its bullshit
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
This is Russian propaganda people. They will show this as "proof" that Americans are involved.

While I'm sure some are involved they aren't dressing up as Ukrainians, getting caught, and then telling everyone they are American the instant they are caught.



The guy may just be a Ukranian American. There are a ton where I live. They always get confused for Russians. Maybe he went back to his home country to fight the Ruskies?
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You are correct.
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BS HIS ACCENT IS PERFECT ENGLISH, AND HE SAYS HE IS A US CITIZEN....

WTF
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My mother is Russian and speaks perfect American English because she was trained to.

Do not fall for Hollywood tactics.
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
False flag by Russia to pin USA in Ukraina.
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USA has the patent on false flags. The Russians are equally evil but prefer a more direct approach...
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Nope, Is(htar)Ra El has the patent, the industry is in the US.
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This NEEDS to be pinned. This could be an elaborate hoax to support the claims Russia has made about us mercenaries or this could be the final nail in the West's provocateur ways
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all RT has to do is put his face on tv and we wld all know if its a hoax. if he is a us citizen sombody wld recognize him frm america on tv
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This is big and your right. MEGA PINE THIS SHIT
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
So exciting yeah
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
Caught red handed.
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
This is Russian propaganda people. They will show this as "proof" that Americans are involved.

While I'm sure some are involved they aren't dressing up as Ukrainians, getting caught, and then telling everyone they are American the instant they are caught.



The guy may just be a Ukranian American. There are a ton where I live. They always get confused for Russians. Maybe he went back to his home country to fight the Ruskies?
 Quoting: l3ol3o


You are correct.
 Quoting: Nachthexen


BS HIS ACCENT IS PERFECT ENGLISH, AND HE SAYS HE IS A US CITIZEN....

WTF
 Quoting: Mukk1234


My mother is Russian and speaks perfect American English because she was trained to.

Do not fall for Hollywood tactics.
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That's a tough decision:

Fall for Hollywood tactics or fall for GLP shills???

cruise
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04/10/2014 11:33 AM
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
It's a hoax.
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
i believe that he just lost his us citizenship just by fighting for another country you loose your citizenchip...

this is huge! he says "I'm a US citizen" without accent so it's pretty legit
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I could not get a sense of what is going on there.
Is he(one that says he is a US citizen) fighting for the
Ukanians against the Russian invasion?

(As supposedly some Ukranians say they are with Russia)


???
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You are correct.
 Quoting: Nachthexen


BS HIS ACCENT IS PERFECT ENGLISH, AND HE SAYS HE IS A US CITIZEN....

WTF
 Quoting: Mukk1234


My mother is Russian and speaks perfect American English because she was trained to.

Do not fall for Hollywood tactics.
 Quoting: Nachthexen


That's a tough decision:

Fall for Hollywood tactics or fall for GLP shills???

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56357694


Yea, you can tell the shills will be out in force on this one....FUCK YOU SHILLS.....
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
sounds kinda like Napoleon Dynamite!
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sounds kinda like Napoleon Dynamite!
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yeah cause his nose is broken. the blood seems to come from his nose and not his mouth
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
sounds kinda like Napoleon Dynamite!
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yeah cause his nose is broken. the blood seems to come from his nose and not his mouth
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you're right
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
Props to sundancer for finding what is claimed to be a rough translation of the verbal exchange on LiveLeak:

* Where are you guys?
* Where the fuck is he?
* We fucking caught him!
* Who the fuck are you?
* This fucking bitch was the one shooting!
* Hold him!
* Who the fuck are you?
* You've got to be fucking kidding me.
* Bitch!
* Who are you?!
* I'm a US Citizen
* YOU'VE GOT TO BE FUCKING ME
* IT'S AN AMERICAN
* Guys calm down, you'll kill him
* Don't kill him
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yeah, that's close enough

Lots of Suka (bitch) and Blat (whore/fuck) and then this text in between

Clearly looking for a guy as it starts with 'Gde on, Gde On suka blat'? Where is he .. where is he ... Bitch fuck ...

Russians are like Tourette patients when they are excited ...

In any case ... this is some very important stuff, hope to get more info on this.

What's the general setting?
Why is there a guy dressed in Ukrainian Military outfit in Xarkov?
Why is he shooting as claimed in the video?
Why is he in the same building as these guys? Did they catch a sniper?
Are there any reports of snipers, shootings in Kharkov?
Why does he utter the words, I'm a US citizen, to what end?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56400788


I don't speak russian, but would like to know if this is what they are saying in the video….

At the very last second of the video, something is uttered, but I think this might be russian too, as it sounds like the camera guy taking, and not the the guy who is apprehended, who claims to be a US Citizen.

It does look he got the crap beat out of him, even with all that body armor.
Sucks to be him right now.
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
This NEEDS to be pinned. This could be an elaborate hoax to support the claims Russia has made about us mercenaries or this could be the final nail in the West's provocateur ways
 Quoting: 2chainz


if hoax really really well acted. we'll hear more by tomorrow Im pretty sure. Let's not forget that the US denied there were american mercenaries in Ukr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56596769


Easily done. You find a US Expat willing to do this for money. They don't show his entire face, ergo very hard to identify. They moulage him, make it appear he has had the shit kicked out of him, and have him declare, "I'm a US Citizen."

It will garner sympathy with people who already have a beef wit the USA. It's called conformation bias.
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I hope more of you folks where in video or film making...
Re watch this again ...but dont watch it as show...but look at it as product being sold to you.....
Dark place
"exited" voices with echoes...
someone banging empty pipe against other empty pipe
"rolling in" flash light so viewer wont get an idea that camera man can see in dark.
like in any good movie flash light must bring you to epicenter of event...........
more voices..........
villain on the floor ...secured by few guys.....
brand new swat helmet ( who would not recognise evil america?? thanks hollywood)t...fully uniformed......
then...they show right in to camera...bazooka or some type of grenade launcher.......
That is right US solder with bazooka in a bag right in a middle of a city .....
Who is this solder....
definitely not Chinese or african....
What words you expect to hear from any living person if that person is about to get skinned alive ?
Dont kill!!! Wait !!!! STOP!! perhaps ?
no.... not in this case .....
...in this case guy says "im us citizen".
Look at this guys face.guy fas laying on the floor face down .....they pull mas of his face......."blood" from his mouth still flowing down his chin..and manages not to be smeared all over his face...... miracle blood ?
Oh he is american.......and guy gets slap on helmet.......
Camera fades in a dark......

BTW "captured" guy speaks English with recognizable Russian/Ukrainian accent.
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Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
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BS HIS ACCENT IS PERFECT ENGLISH, AND HE SAYS HE IS A US CITIZEN....

WTF
 Quoting: Mukk1234


My mother is Russian and speaks perfect American English because she was trained to.

Do not fall for Hollywood tactics.
 Quoting: Nachthexen


That's a tough decision:

Fall for Hollywood tactics or fall for GLP shills???

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56357694


Yea, you can tell the shills will be out in force on this one....FUCK YOU SHILLS.....
 Quoting: Mukk1234


I am not a shill. Poklanskaya is a shill.
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
Look how lightly they're tapping his helmet. The light tapping through all that armor on his faced caused his mouth to bleed? What's with the shaking?
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
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he's not a soldier but a mercenary. If he was a soldier it would be an infringement of the Geneva convention and the US would be in legal trouble.
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Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53733505


Correct.

It's a fake video.

What you are seeing is Operation Runaway Mutts.

This is quite easy to stage.

Here is a hint, watch Wag the Dog.

I will give you another hint, Poklonskaya is Kirsten Dunst.
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That seems more like Russian propaganda, too easy. Listen carefully to how he speaks, he clearly speaks English well, at least that sentence, but it is with an Eastern European background. If he is an American citizen it is not by birth. So if this video is true, then the alphabet groups must be really desperate for ops-men, cause this one gave it all up after being slapped around.
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He obviously didn't know he was being filmed and sounded more American than anyone else I know. He clearly understands the language there and probably blurted it out because he is hoping to get sanctuary because his American citizenship....
 Quoting: 2chainz


Or not, what would you say in that postion, not understanding anything being yelled at you.
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Look how lightly they're tapping his helmet. The light tapping through all that armor on his faced caused his mouth to bleed? What's with the shaking?
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Acute psychological ego-corruption.
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Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
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US citizen I want the US embassy.
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Re: American in ukrainian uniform caught in Kharkiv (video)
Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53733505


Black ops private contractors are covered by diplomatic apparatus. That's why he quickly pulled the American citizenship card.
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Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53733505

US citizen I want the US embassy.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


+1
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Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53733505

US citizen I want the US embassy.
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This!
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Let's see how long this video is propagated, thay will determine it's efficacy.
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Why because his higher ranking Russian officers are going to tear him a new asshole for not selling it well enough? Where is the fear in his voice? He may as well just said oh hello comrades, I'm a U.S. citizen.
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Why because his higher ranking Russian officers are going to tear him a new asshole for not selling it well enough? Where is the fear in his voice? He may as well just said oh hello comrades, I'm a U.S. citizen.
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People like movies better.

People think movies are exciting and real.

This boy is very talented, shame he chose the field over the set.
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Why are his first words "I'm a US citizen"?

Soldiers are trained to only give
NAME, RANK & SERVICE NUMBER
if captured by enemy forces.

It would have made more sense to me if he'd said something like "BILLY BOB, SERGEANT, 348623" a couple of times at first capture, and later, under "more formal" questioning, reveal "I'm a US citizen".

What are BlackWater types trained to say if captured?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53733505


Black ops private contractors are covered by diplomatic apparatus. That's why he quickly pulled the American citizenship card.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56357694


Sure, but the guy looks to be dressed in a foreign uniform.

That ain't legal. He doesn't get any diplomatic coverage.





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