You're sitting in your house, your hear yelling...don't touch your gun or you die

this was a disturbing trend now it's SOP

Hahaha, badass, although you should ask a lawyer about that it may come back to bite you.

Show me the law that states that an individual must or is compelled to cooperate, or a law that states that an citizen is forbidden to protect themselves from any given threat.

Or you know, shut up and quite sharing your cowardly viewpoints.

I'm gonna have to side with Brief on this one. This dude just comitted a crime (hit and run, the car was registered in his name). He had good reason to believe that the knock on the door was the cops and not an intruder. And at least in the article they make it sound like shots were already fired before the trooper shot him, so the trooper had good reason to be on edge.

Not all cops are bad guys, sometimes they really are justified in shooting in self defense.

That being said, I'm sure if the cops had gone to the wrong house, they would have shot him anyways and probably his dogs too.

Ain't that for real... they will say anything now, to make it all seem "justified".

Just like that guy in the New Mexico desert - his murder was "justified" because he had a knife.

Apparently no one responding in this thread read the part were it said shots were being fired from inside the home before the trooper arrived.

Yeah I think you and I are the only ones that caught that part. Signs of the times, this shit happens so often you kind of just assume the cops murdered the guy.

they've been known to band in with hired stalkers in effort to harrass "targets" of the man behind the curtain herein

all part and parcel of such

that or they loan out their vehicles for that unreasonable unjustifiable purpose, for which there IS NO DEFENSE in truth, sigh

anybody and all their brothers may well be proven to have been a "sell out" at any given moment in time

just the way it is and be in these, the last and certainly the least of all the days left in this Age

I'm not going to the door without a gun. They aren't coming in either. If they want in my house, they better so me a warrant. Don't open you doors! The police are out of control! Keep your doors shut!

I have to tend to agree with that point from here on in

without hesitation, without doubt

Doesn't have to be your gun.

Touch anything and the cops will say they thought it was a gun.

That would be another important thing to avoid. Shooting in your own home late at night.
If he is not inside city limits he could legally shoot several types of vermin after dark, although there is no mention of a dead coyote.

The guy that was shot was involved in a hit and run. He probably knew they were coming and decided to continue being a dumbass.
His hit and run vehicle was on the scene. I feel no pity for him.

These folks though, my heart goes out to them.

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If you are quite prepared to die, then I salute you.
There is the law, and there is its application. In this case, an old man, possibly drunk, may have made the wrong decisions.
Don't let that be you.

He was involved in a hit and run...he was not a victim.

He ran into a house, apparently. When you're running into houses




The drunk suicidal marine corps veteran pointed a gun at them too. They want to prohibit guns, but a drunk can still run into a house with his truck....its complicated. Bane pickups?

Just once again SO glad I live on a boat, and a foreign flagged one at that.

Bit of advice, don't board any vessel without being invited. Davy Jones' locker is DEEP. No body, no crime.

Of course the "administrative leave" means he went to Aruba on a paid vacation to relax on the beach.

Fucking CRIMINAL POLICE in America.

This country has gone to HELL in a handbasket.

Time to get the fuck out of it.

What size boat? Which flag?

Thanks... I'm thinking about Belize or Argentina... maybe Patagonia.

Could anyone from law enforcement give some suggestions for a less bloody resolution in this case?

If you see a confused old guy with a gun, how do you want the situation to progress? What is the best outcome? How do we achieve that?

He opened fire on the cops..WTF do you think is going to happen??

Did you anticoptards even read the story the op posted??

The one that says they shot him because he bumped his golf cart into his neighbor's garage?

[link to www.wwaytv3.com]

Monday, friends of Thomas said it was all a misunderstanding.

“They just shot him down. They just emptied their guns on him,” said Jarrod Watkins, a friend of Thomas.

Crystal Walsh says she had been friends with Thomas for five years and he was the most generous person she has ever met.

She said Sunday night’s violence should have been avoided all together.

"I can't see why they couldn't find a better resolution than to take an elderly man's life,” said Walsh.

I'm in a quandary about whether this incident should fall under "see a cane = shoot to kill". Or should it fall under disabled/handicapped = shoot to kill.

I'm still keeping the list.

How about not answering the door at all, dumbass?

duh

The "hit and run" story varies somewhat:


[link to www.wwaytv3.com]

They say before Thomas was killed, he was driving his golf cart around a dirt pile and accidentally crashed into his neighbor’s garage.

"He was out playing on his golf cart, doing stuff he shouldn't be doing,” said Hannah Royal.

Royal says neighbors then called police and Thomas went back to his house to be with friends.

About an hour later, they say police showed up.

David says the Highway Patrol, Pender County Sheriff's Office, and Surf City Police Department were all on scene at the time of the incident.

Witnesses say officers crept on them.

“I had a neighbor who said he saw them shut their lights off coming right up the road,” said Watkins.

Thomas’ loved ones say the Vietnam veteran had a heart of gold, but he had a problem with people stealing from him. They say because this was a reoccurring issue he kept a shotgun loaded with bird shot handy.

"He said if he ever had to use it on someone, he wouldn't want to kill him," said Watkins.


A veteran. A gun. Police.

Will that work, or will it simply annoy them? Can they shoot through the window?

Simple.

Cops... Don't enter people's private property without permission. Don't knock on their door and expect them to greet you with anything less than a loaded and ready-to-fire weapon.

And, assume that every citizen is armed as it is an enumerated right in the US Constitution. I'm sick of cops and their assumed 'hero' status and their extra-constitutional powers that they've seized from the people through their own irrational fears.

REal heroes can handle the risk and associated fears without having to destroy every perceived threat just so they can go home at night. If cops want to be true heros, they need to adopt the attitude that some of them will take more bullets as a result of showing restraint rather than pumping them into citizens to protect their own skins.

Simple.

Cops... Don't enter people's private property without permission. Don't knock on their door and expect them to greet you with anything less than a loaded and ready-to-fire weapon.

And, assume that every citizen is armed as it is an enumerated right in the US Constitution. I'm sick of cops and their assumed 'hero' status and their extra-constitutional powers that they've seized from the people through their own irrational fears.

REal heroes can handle the risk and associated fears without having to destroy every perceived threat just so they can go home at night. If cops want to be true heros, they need to adopt the attitude that some of them will take more bullets as a result of showing restraint rather than pumping them into citizens to protect their own skins.

Know your local cops, when I got the last race car first thing I did was drive down and show the cops.

But trust me, be carful. If you did nothing wrong and the cops show at your back door...

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