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Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
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Re: Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
the less physical work you do

the more money you make
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the less physical work you do

the more money you make
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Except I actually have a job and all those former retail managers don't.
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Most are in tech school developing the robots that'll run our world in the near future.

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The more $$$ you make, the bless you actually do.

Its true.
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The more $$$ you make, the **less you actually do.

Its true.
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Re: Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
maybe the guy is a crappy recruiter
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Re: Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56933010


Sounds like you got the job!
Congratulations.
You can expect a good pay. Great hours. Benefits. Holidays.
Paid stats 3x. And a pension.
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Re: Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
Not always the case. I'm a telecom lineman. I pulled in 6 figures last year. I'm looking to relocate to NC and I was astounded at the amount of decent paying blue collar jobs available. I guess they are having trouble finding young guys willing to get their hands dirty.
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Are you calling bullshit on me?
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The attitudes are funny to me.

Certain individuals say I do nothing all day.

I say, after 25 years on the job, I accomplish more with my pinky toe than you do while working up a sweat.

If you knew how to blow your own nose, we could get a much more harmonious outcome!
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The attitudes are funny to me.

Certain individuals say I do nothing all day.

I say, after 25 years on the job, I accomplish more with my pinky toe than you do while working up a sweat.

If you knew how to blow your own nose, we could get a much more harmonious outcome!
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I can tell you from experience that white, non
hispanic blue collar
people get the job done in spite of quadruple level
managers, not because of them.
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Most are in tech school developing the robots that'll run our world in the near future.

banana2
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You mean RUIN our world.
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The more $$$ you make, the **less you actually do.

Its true.
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^^^^^ this.
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Can a smart ambition person that would be able to handle coordination for any project to get volunteers ASAP? You may be without supplies that would take a work order though.

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What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless?

Maybe it's because everyone wants you to have a boat load of experience. I seen a job posting yesterday for a rug washer. They wanted someone with 5 years experience. Maybe they should train someone. I would love to have a different job but no one is willing to train.
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone...ain't no borderline psychotic emotional outbursts either.

Some days you just have to create your own sunshine.
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Nobody wants to hire kids anymore. They're all on dope, can't maintain a working pace, so dummed down you have to show them how to use the shitter.

You're not the first person I've heard that from.

I did a church car wash once with the kids from the youth group. I had to show them even the most obvious things, like start at one end and work your way to the other. I watched them do the first car, it was joke. One kid would wash half the drivers door then move to the trunk, stuff like that. They didn't wash half the car. I was shocked by the general ineptitude of it all.
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Re: Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
Not always the case. I'm a telecom lineman. I pulled in 6 figures last year. I'm looking to relocate to NC and I was astounded at the amount of decent paying blue collar jobs available. I guess they are having trouble finding young guys willing to get their hands dirty.
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Nope. The companies are too picky.

They wont hire you if you are too educated or too smart, they fear you will leave.

They wont hire you if you are too undereducated or not too smart, they fear you will leave.

So they are stuck trying to find the "perfect match" while totally ignoring the people they should be hiring ... the ones that applied.


I was turned down for numerous jobs because I was "too educated" so I spent much time unemployed. I was super desperate for work, and would have done anything, and I literally spent lots of time applying to anything available. They were just too picky.

It made me really angry, and I eventually gave up looking. Then I decided to work for myself instead since no one was giving me a chance. But it was their loss.
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This is because today's generation of teens is busy filming YouTube videos being stupid and making money this way. Of course they are as stupid as a brick by the time they hit 30
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Re: Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
There seems to be an unwillingness to put in the hard time. I spent years making shit wages doing shit work, longer than I should have. Just when I thought it was hopeless it turned out that those years of near slavery had turned me into a hard working skilled hand with a good work ethic. My income shot up from under $10 to mid teens almost all at once. It's been going up ever since.

The thing that these kids don't understand is that it takes a long damn time to get good at anything. And it isn't just know how and knowledge but also ethics. In my youth I had no problem doing somebody a shit job to get my money real quick. Now I despise that shit. It's beneath my trade and my skill.

And I don't want to hear "nobody will hire me." There are all kinds of ads in the paper and on craigslist. Yeah, it's a shit labor job in construction or some kind of trade work. $8 or $9 an hour, blistering heat, hard labor. BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU START! That's the test you got to pass before anybody is going to spend their time teaching you their trade.

Scoff at trades all you want. I know many a tradesmen who do damn well for themselves.
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Companies are laying off 50 plus and not offering pension plans and medical benefits and hiring younger people who will have no future for their golden years...
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I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56933010


Stop bitching, grow a pair....I mean your are trying to get a job for the gov....kinda makes your point mute
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Companies are laying off 50 plus and not offering pension plans and medical benefits and hiring younger people who will have no future for their golden years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57257530


I'm glad I didn't go into the corporate world. I had the chance after college, but went back into the trades. I'd think the best path for many in such a position is to start your own business. That's the end path of many tradesmen too.
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Re: Interviewed for a job today and the guy said...
I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56933010


Stop bitching, grow a pair....I mean your are trying to get a job for the gov....kinda makes your point mute
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LOL! I never saw myself as a government employee. But at least it's not an IRS job. I'll be making sure your streets get sanded during bad weather and keeping the street lights working. Is that not a much better use of your tax dollars than most government functions?
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I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56933010


Mike Rowe has explained this over and over.
Very few people go into blue collar trades anymore....and there is in fact a shortage.
Many pay quite well.

Worth your time to listen.

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I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56933010


Stop bitching, grow a pair....I mean your are trying to get a job for the gov....kinda makes your point mute
 Quoting: Butt hurt inflictor 44437964


LOL! I never saw myself as a government employee. But at least it's not an IRS job. I'll be making sure your streets get sanded during bad weather and keeping the street lights working. Is that not a much better use of your tax dollars than most government functions?
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You do have a very valid point there. Touché
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I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56933010


Mike Rowe has explained this over and over.
Very few people go into blue collar trades anymore....and there is in fact a shortage.
Many pay quite well.

Worth your time to listen.


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater




I always wanted to go offshore when i was in my early twenties and eventually I made itat twenty four. I didnt do like the average worker and skip work and complain I worked hard and took off running. Now 17 years later I get paid 500+ a day to watch other people work and document all thats going on. If it wasnt for my bad back I would go out and try construction or work on the deck. The youth today have no idea that everyone started at the bottom getting crapped on and its the crap that gives you drive to get to the top. You cant get to the top unless you have been there because it makes your balls drop and makes you a man.
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I have a decent job and am not really looking for another job, but I got a connection to maybe get a great municipal job and figured I'd give it a try. The job is a supervisory position over the maintenance personnel of the city buildings and vehicles as well as street signs and lights.

I interviewed for the job today after having put an application in almost two months ago. I know the guy a little who interviewed me. He told me he wanted to have the position filled already but that he'd waited 2 months to get just 4 suitable applicants. He said everybody applying had degrees and retail management experience.

What he's looking for is somebody who actually knows how to do something. We got to talking about how there is a shortage of people who can actually do shit. I had the same conversation with an elderly painter the other day. I was on a job site with about 7 other men and I was the only one there under 50 years old.

What has happened to our society? Why is everybody so damned helpless? They can't change their own oil or paint a dog house or nail together some forms and pour a side walk or even dig a fucking hole for a mailbox post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56933010


Mike Rowe has explained this over and over.
Very few people go into blue collar trades anymore....and there is in fact a shortage.
Many pay quite well.

Worth your time to listen.


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater




I always wanted to go offshore when i was in my early twenties and eventually I made itat twenty four. I didnt do like the average worker and skip work and complain I worked hard and took off running. Now 17 years later I get paid 500+ a day to watch other people work and document all thats going on. If it wasnt for my bad back I would go out and try construction or work on the deck. The youth today have no idea that everyone started at the bottom getting crapped on and its the crap that gives you drive to get to the top. You cant get to the top unless you have been there because it makes your balls drop and makes you a man.
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Yep....there is some great stuff out there now if you are looking to go into a trade....and actually work.
Problem is the "ME GENERATION" is used to sitting on their asses playing video games, Facebooking and and watching YouTube videos on their phones all day.
...and then they expect to make 100K per year as an entry level salary or they refuse to work.

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the less physical work you do

the more money you make
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exactly because every joule of energy costs food.
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geez my old plumber just charges whatever he wants to
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