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Boss I trusted has ask me to....

 
KipKat

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04/24/2014 02:10 PM

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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
Fudging numbers hmm Let me guess, you work for Obama!
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Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 02:14 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
Do it.

Make sure you document everything. Dont allow yourself to become the fall guy.
Barry Soetoro
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04/24/2014 02:18 PM
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fudge data on a project to meet a deadline...would you ?


I've worked with this guy almost 10yrs and thought I knew him....guess I was wrong


give me your thoughts, I've got to go to work but will check back soon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


I typically do whatever my bosses tell me ~ read the script, i do it.
Nerve03

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04/24/2014 02:20 PM
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OP you already know the answer.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 02:23 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
Who gives a shit anymore, do whatever, get your money and run.
 Quoting: Bananael


Not, OP could end up the scapegoat and boss could get a promotion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1380509

Exactly. That is how it works. If this thing went wrong then OP would be thrown under the bus to protect the higher ups.

You can bet they have protected themselves with plausible deniability. OP would not be able to prove they were in on it. They know how to isolate themselves from blame.

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Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 02:31 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
before I go let me add, this is the bosses boss....I told my direct boss my concerns and that I'm not gonna lower my moral standing to do this....hell I might not have a job by thks afternoon :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


Good. Don't do anything shady and that will get you into trouble. They will blame you if they get caught. Go find another job if you have to but stand your ground.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 02:37 PM
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When you say "fudge" are you really talking about fudge?
I like fudge.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 02:49 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
.... lick his balls ?
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 02:59 PM
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record a conversation.

fudge numbers.

recording may come in handy some day... black mail etc.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 03:02 PM
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before I go let me add, this is the bosses boss....I told my direct boss my concerns and that I'm not gonna lower my moral standing to do this....hell I might not have a job by thks afternoon :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


morals are for poor people
look at this thing realistically:
does fudging date destroys the protect?
will it affect human lives?
can it be found out and blamed on you later?
will your boss take personal responsibility over this?
ask directly..
if boss gives you in writing ,do it
if boss says verbally,don't do it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56918781


Herein lies one contributing factor to the moral decay of society.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 03:17 PM
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Happens all the time. Its called covering the bosses ass and when the shtf, you take in your ass and when the truth be known the boss F'd up and its you who caused it cause you took ownership of the F up, You are tossed out the door with your boss pleading innocent all the while pointing his dirty crooked little fingers at you.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 03:23 PM
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We live in a world that rewards sociopaths who would do what your boss wants you to do without thinking twice about it. I'm glad that you're not one of them OP.
Dontos
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04/24/2014 04:05 PM
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Winter is coming.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 04:18 PM
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You need to define FUDGE...

Provide honestly estimated data in lieu of elaborate and time consuming investigation / data reporting, or pull totally bogus nonsense outta your ass to slant things in your favor?

There's a difference.
Relativity

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04/24/2014 04:20 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
before I go let me add, this is the bosses boss....I told my direct boss my concerns and that I'm not gonna lower my moral standing to do this....hell I might not have a job by thks afternoon :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


morals are for poor people
look at this thing realistically:
does fudging date destroys the protect?
will it affect human lives?
can it be found out and blamed on you later?
will your boss take personal responsibility over this?
ask directly..
if boss gives you in writing ,do it
if boss says verbally,don't do it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56918781


hesright
“In finding balance between lies and trust
there will never be a better source
than to speak your truth
or make your peace some other way.”
~Sully Erna

Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.
-Gandalph

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 05:05 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
fudge data on a project to meet a deadline...would you ?


I've worked with this guy almost 10yrs and thought I knew him....guess I was wrong


give me your thoughts, I've got to go to work but will check back soon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


It depends on who set the deadline and why. Usually I tell them to go fuck themselves, I work in the most efficient manner possible, so if you have an issue with it, well that's your problem.
 Quoting: BRIEF



Brief, you and I are a lot alike(not sure if that's good or bad)...
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 05:09 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
I guess you've never watched a single episode of "American Greed"

Next quarter he'll ask you to do it again, then eventually you will develop a 'system' to this every month.



Don't go down with this ship
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 05:11 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
OP here

I'm still employed!!!

It to alittle persuasion but I think they see the light

I'm gonna "SWAG" the small stuff but nail down the large stuff


everybody has been alittle on edge cause the 2nd big boss has the "Napoleon" syndrome and HE is the one who misspoke the deadline to the biggest boss
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 05:20 PM
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If you take the high road will it affect others? Cause other people to lose their jobs or be affected in a negative way?
Just curious
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 05:55 PM
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If you take the high road will it affect others? Cause other people to lose their jobs or be affected in a negative way?
Just curious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57289543



high road would protect the jobs

Cooking the data could mean layoffs the to budget shortfalls....the makeup money has to come from some where
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 06:04 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
Had something similar happen to me...
I was a Manager of a independent auto lube/inspection shop.
Was micro managed by the owner that wouldn't let me
hire or fire anyone. sent me the absolute bottom
of the barrel employees. All while only showing up
on Mondays for 15 minutes to get his deposits out of the safe.

I went through 15 employees in 6 months !
Never got a day off, worked 7 days a week for those
six months because I didn't have an assistant
(another key holder)that could open and close.

So...I stepped down as manager..He brought in a
guy from his warehouse that from day one started
robbing him blind. Cash oil changes, and services.
Fudging the deposits and keeping the cash.

The day before Thanksgiving he started telling
all customers that the credit card machine was down...
cash only ! Then at the end of the day came up to me
and said heres your cut because he knew that I knew
what he was up to.

I was scheduled off the day after Thanksgiving(Friday)
So I went to my wife and told her what was going on
and pretty much decided to go to the owner after
Thanksgiving because regardless off how big a
asshole he was...what was going on was wrong.

OK, Friday morning I get up and get ready to go
see the owner. Get to the warehouse around 9:30am
on my way I drive past the shop and it not open yet...
I get there and ask If we could talk. First I ask what
time the shop wa supposed to open ? He says 8:00am,
like any other day.

I tell him the shop wasn't open and I go into
what I had seen. I take the money his guy gave me
and put it on the table and tell him what went down
the day before Thanksgiving.

As we are talking (I shit you not)
that fucker called and said someone stole the drawer
money ($300) bucks out of the safe..
There was no forced entry through 2 doors and the
safe was unlocked and open. He was the only key holder...


And to wrap this up...
They didn't want to believe me..
Just couldn't believe he would do such a thing.
I ended up fired cause they said I tried to set him up.
All because I did the right thing.

The right thing cost me my job and a 3 year reference.
I'm still unemployed, but I would do it again in a heart beat.

Just found out the other day he finally got caught.
They got him stealing $2800.00 and thats just what
they know of. Dude had a free ATM for 6 months.
BRIEF

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04/24/2014 07:14 PM

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fudge data on a project to meet a deadline...would you ?


I've worked with this guy almost 10yrs and thought I knew him....guess I was wrong


give me your thoughts, I've got to go to work but will check back soon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


It depends on who set the deadline and why. Usually I tell them to go fuck themselves, I work in the most efficient manner possible, so if you have an issue with it, well that's your problem.
 Quoting: BRIEF



Brief, you and I are a lot alike(not sure if that's good or bad)...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49756564


It's good if you are on my side, bad if not...
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

Briefcut4892
s. d. butler

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04/24/2014 07:18 PM
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fudge data on a project to meet a deadline...would you ?


I've worked with this guy almost 10yrs and thought I knew him....guess I was wrong


give me your thoughts, I've got to go to work but will check back soon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


Integrity- Doing the RIGHT thing when NOBODY is watching.

Live by that ..
 Quoting: CE1


clappa
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 07:22 PM
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Are you that banking lady in Paris?
Kapooya!

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04/24/2014 07:22 PM
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there is only one thing that counts. The Truth.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 07:37 PM
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Re: Boss I trusted has ask me to....
Tell him you want no part of it. Hand him the project and say that if he wants that done, he'll have to do it himself and take full responsibility of the consequences.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 07:45 PM
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Are you that banking lady in Paris?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57294508


Typing from the fridge in the morgue?
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2014 08:23 PM
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OP here again...thanks to all that posted for doing the right thing

I've vowed all my life to do the right thing, I'm not about to change that now...
s. d. butler

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04/25/2014 02:40 AM
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OP here again...thanks to all that posted for doing the right thing

I've vowed all my life to do the right thing, I'm not about to change that now...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57294393


There is almost always a cost for doing the right thing. It is worth it, no matter what the brain dead say.
Anonymous Coward
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04/25/2014 05:45 AM
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OP here again...thanks to all that posted for doing the right thing

I've vowed all my life to do the right thing, I'm not about to change that now...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57294393


There is almost always a cost for doing the right thing. It is worth it, no matter what the brain dead say.
 Quoting: s. d. butler




yea I know, I was passed up for promotion twice cause I'm not a "yes man"





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