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First Law Of Thermodynamics Debunked

 
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First Law Of Thermodynamics Debunked
First Law Of Thermodynamics: That kind of assumpion is about the conservation of Energy.

In other words it says without energy (either potential or kinetic) put into a system, you don't get energy out..

But what about the leverage itself? Think for example about its principle which amplifies an input force to provide a greater output force.

Did you ever ask yourself that? Feel free to share your thoughts.

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The Law makes the wrong assumption that the universe is a closed system
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As a FOrmer Opeerative of the DIA - Defense Intelligence Agency, with also an uncle who worked for the NSF- at Brookhaven Lab. I understand that there are now secretly 5 Laws of thermodynamics. I understand one was replace and one was split in 2. Making 5 instead of 4.

I am sure this is in secret science and not at all in academia even under Top Secret college Labs.

This is one of those intelligent rumors that are 100% true but not sure exactly how it is worded or changed nor how much.

So the laws have been adjusted how much who knows and its got to be bottled up in the black programs.


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The Law makes the wrong assumption that the universe is a closed system
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How do you know it isn't?
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Since the position of the Fulcrum, and the Length of the Pole determine how much force is "amplified".

There is NOT any real "Amplification".

FAIL.
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Since the position of the Fulcrum, and the Length of the Pole determine how much force is "amplified".

There is NOT any real "Amplification".

FAIL.
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Really? explain better or you are in FAIL.

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Re: First Law Of Thermodynamics Debunked
First Law Of Thermodynamics: That kind of assumpion is about the conservation of Energy.

In other words it says without energy (either potential or kinetic) put into a system, you don't get energy out..

But what about the leverage itself? Think for example about its principle which amplifies an input force to provide a greater output force.

Did you ever ask yourself that? Feel free to share your thoughts.

science

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 Quoting: DVCMCM


See bold words above.

Are you fucking kidding me???? Please think before you type. Google is your friend.
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See bold words above.

Are you fucking kidding me???? Please think before you type. Google is your friend.
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So what? You got a stronger output force. That's simply a fact.

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Gibbs me dat! The energy used by a negro to take something by force rather than to create an item or labor for money to purchase an item.
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found a flaw in that guys thinking...

When he talks about volume and heat he forgets that energy is needed to keep heat at the same temperature.
Other words you need an external heat source which uses up energy. So there no free energy as he claims as any energy found within the system is muted by the energy needed to keep the heat at a constant temperature

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lala

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That's cool and all but I just saw my first Russian on a glp thread
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And by the way leverage doesn't really amplify the force you either gain range and lose force or gain force and lose range
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Wow...the force remains the same....F=MA....so m1a1=m2a2

If m1 is a large object and m2 is your hand....the acceleration of your hand is much larger than the acceleration of the large object. Not quite the 100% most appropriate formula, but its broken down to the simpelist equation I could demonstrate. The movement on the large object is slower than the movement made by the lever pull (your hand in this case) therefore energy is not gained out of thin air....not to mention the energy lost to friction on the fulcrum (which is likely converted to heat)
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Are you in denial or what?

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The Law makes the wrong assumption that the universe is a closed system
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This ^^ and it fails to consider the existence of other universes that exist parallel to each other but in different dimensions.
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Move over Obama...the next no bell prize belongs to OP.
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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Re: First Law Of Thermodynamics Debunked
Global Warming Also Debunked
(that's about 2nd law of thermodynamics):

"Heat cannot of itself transfert from one body to a warmer body"
( from that source or every school books: theory.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_tech/node79.html )

I have many others btw.

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Also about heat transfer, did you ever ask yourself where all the heat from the soil (deeper one source included) is transferred in the system?

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Are you in denial or what?
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Yes, anyone who believes in well established and working science is clearly in denial.

People who are using their brain as little as possible are definitely the new top scientists of the world.

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Is it just arrogance or sheer stupidity that makes you think that nobody ever in the history of thermodynamics asked the same question?
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Well, I'm using my brain as little as possible at the moment, you know...

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Well, I'm using my brain as little as possible at the moment, you know...
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Not just at the moment. It's painfully clear that you have been doing that for a really long time.

Your saying that global warming is debunked becuse of the 2nd Law is just furter proof of a brain that's more or less 100% idle.

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First Law Of Thermodynamics: That kind of assumpion is about the conservation of Energy.

In other words it says without energy (either potential or kinetic) put into a system, you don't get energy out..

But what about the leverage itself? Think for example about its principle which amplifies an input force to provide a greater output force.

Did you ever ask yourself that? Feel free to share your thoughts.

:science:

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 Quoting: DVCMCM


Leverage? Is there such a thing? NAH, it's really about moving the focal point of the energy dimwit.
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<cough>....high school physics....nothing is amplified, you are forgetting a key term that balances the 'system'....distance moved.

This is why we fail, folks don't even know bacis physics.
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<cough>....high school physics....nothing is amplified, you are forgetting a key term that balances the 'system'....distance moved.

This is why we fail, folks don't even know bacis physics.
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<cough>....high school physics....nothing is amplified, you are forgetting a key term that balances the 'system'....distance moved.

This is why we fail, folks don't even know bacis physics.
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Leverage is also demonstrated in the simple pulley "block and tackle"( pulley set) you can apply 30lbs of force and get 300+ lbs of pull on the other end. But your 30lb tug moves 10 inches of rope; then the output must move only 1 inch. Nothing is free; no matter how many youtube psuedo-scientists hit "record"and make"Science isjust wrong!free energy exists" videos.
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Leverage is also demonstrated in the simple pulley "block and tackle"( pulley set) you can apply 30lbs of force and get 300+ lbs of pull on the other end. But your 30lb tug moves 10 inches of rope; then the output must move only 1 inch. Nothing is free; no matter how many youtube psuedo-scientists hit "record"and make"Science isjust wrong!free energy exists" videos.
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Wrong, WHY? The main point is just simple: you get a gain force.

Period


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