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Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?

 
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Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Even if there is a hell, why would the demons get to laugh their asses off and rule it like it's their kingdom and only the people suffer? There are maybe, semi famous people who supposedly died and had visions of demons torturing people in hell and others who actually believe that that's happening. Sorry but that's just stupid.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Even if there is a hell, why would the demons get to laugh their asses off and rule it like it's their kingdom and only the people suffer? There are maybe, semi famous people who supposedly died and had visions of demons torturing people in hell and others who actually believe that that's happening. Sorry but that's just stupid.
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Just a manufactured scare tactic.
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Works wonders as one for the naive, I was afraid of the same things happening to me one day just a few years ago.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
People experience hell for the 1,000 year period, after that it is only the fallen angels that are in the fiery lake (the long version of hell) It appears to be the kind of place where Murphy's Law is in effect 10 times before you even get out the door to go to work. For an immortal, thirst, hunger and pain would be a change for the worse.

Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Isa:65:13:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Isa:65:14:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Be sure to go to the bathroom before you die.
Hell is suffering without relief.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
People experience hell for the 1,000 year period, after that it is only the fallen angels that are in the fiery lake (the long version of hell) It appears to be the kind of place where Murphy's Law is in effect 10 times before you even get out the door to go to work. For an immortal, thirst, hunger and pain would be a change for the worse.

Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Isa:65:13:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Isa:65:14:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger

Interesting--never heard that concept before...
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
People experience hell for the 1,000 year period, after that it is only the fallen angels that are in the fiery lake (the long version of hell) It appears to be the kind of place where Murphy's Law is in effect 10 times before you even get out the door to go to work. For an immortal, thirst, hunger and pain would be a change for the worse.

Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Isa:65:13:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Isa:65:14:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Jesus said this in Matt 25

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
What I don't understand is how someone could worship a god who would allow something like that to happen to creatures he supposedly loves...

And no, you are not alone in your thinking.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
not sure where your getting your idea of hell. The Bible says it's a place of torment for THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. They aren't having fun they are being tormented. Those who reject God (making the devil their god) will likewise join their god.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Even if there is a hell, why would the demons get to laugh their asses off and rule it like it's their kingdom and only the people suffer? There are maybe, semi famous people who supposedly died and had visions of demons torturing people in hell and others who actually believe that that's happening. Sorry but that's just stupid.
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Unless I'm mistaken and I don't believe I am ....nowhere does it say in the. Bible that demons will be torturing people in hell ...the demons are fallen angels and they themselves are also suffering torture ... Hell is not a physical torture ...it a mental anguish ... That human will know without a doubt that hell is real .... And they are eternally separated from God with no chance at redemption .....the lake of fire is different from hell/hades ....hell is described as a bottomless pit ...... The lake of fire is the final punishment and most assume that the torment is physical because of the name , lake of fire
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
People experience hell for the 1,000 year period, after that it is only the fallen angels that are in the fiery lake (the long version of hell) It appears to be the kind of place where Murphy's Law is in effect 10 times before you even get out the door to go to work. For an immortal, thirst, hunger and pain would be a change for the worse.

Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Isa:65:13:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Isa:65:14:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


LOL "Durr I read it in a old book so it must be true!"
1doh1
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
What I don't understand is how someone could worship a god who would allow something like that to happen to creatures he supposedly loves...

And no, you are not alone in your thinking.
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It isn't just evil it is, it's also how ridiculous it is, why do demons get special rights?
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Darn nothing can be more silly than this, even bad horror movie never portray this non sense!

There is no demons and no angels only us humans freak accident of nature trying to justify everything while we should simply live and enjoy our short life.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
not sure where your getting your idea of hell. The Bible says it's a place of torment for THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. They aren't having fun they are being tormented. Those who reject God (making the devil their god) will likewise join their god.
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It isn't me it's whoever thinks that hell is a fun house for demons.
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What I don't understand is how someone could worship a god who would allow something like that to happen to creatures he supposedly loves...

And no, you are not alone in your thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57373501


So God is supposed to take a free will man that choose to rape and murder little kids in time on earth and let's say that man never gets caught ....

And then he stands before God in the afterlife and God being a righteous and just creature is supposed to do what exactly? ... That hypothetical man made his own choices ...he engaged his own free will and committed evil acts ...

In essence this man sent himself to hell ....God enforces the just and righteous judgement that is self evident
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
The "funhouse" idea is not from the Bible. Maybe some movie or book but not the Bible. If your going to criticize the Bibloe at least be criticize what it actually says.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
be critical of what it actually says. (excuse my typing)
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The "funhouse" idea is not from the Bible. Maybe some movie or book but not the Bible. If your going to criticize the Bibloe at least be criticize what it actually says.
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I'm not, I'm criticizing people who believe that.
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sorry. I thought you were thinking that that was what the Bible taught.
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Interesting--never heard that concept before...
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The concept that Isaiah:65 is about the group called 'the rest' is supported by the verses before the sword is used. It is also supported in the later verses because 'the servants' that are alive for the 1,000 reign are not given in marriage so their population for that time will be a static one. That is because they are destined to be residents of New Jerusalem in the new earth. Beasts of the field and such cannot enter the city because in the new earthy they still do not know about good and evil.

M't:22:30:
For in the resurrection they neither marry,
nor are given in marriage,
but are as the angels of God in heaven.

The ones in the new earth verses have children and they have dominion over animals. Since they are given in marriage they will be how mankind grows in number over eternity. The way that works is when a baby is born it is called an infant for the first 20 years and at that time the 'title' infant dies and the new title is 'child' and that title lasts 100 years and in that time they marry and have 100 children. At the age of 120 they do the Great White Throne event and the last 100 years is examined and when the person is found to not be a sinner they are given immortality and in that state they cease to have any more children but they remain alive to interact with all generations that follow them. That is why God took away Moses's breath at the age of 120, he died before he had to be judged, death washed all his sins away.

The Law was mentioned in prophecy in Ge:6 when the rules that God used to judge the world to be in sin was the Law given in Re:21. That is the Law that will govern men for the new earth, that is the Law that the 'sons of God' were under in Ge:6 and their children would have carried on until the last giant was killed in the exodus wars. Prior the dating was set at 1,000 years is a day and Adam died at 930 years so he was 70 years short of having to be judged by God. The 1,000 year reign will be day 1 of a return to that counting as the 10 Commandments will be 'retired' when Jesus says, 'It is finished.' as He pours out the 7th vial. The 10 Commandments govern a people that sin, when the last unrepented Gentile dies on the day the 7th trump sounds that is also the last sinner that will ever exist. Israel is gathered in whole and a remnant of the Gentiles atr on the earth for that 1st day. In that time they are perfected so that fire that sends fallen angels to the fiery lake leave them untouched and they ascend to the Great White Throne but they are qualified to enter the city as they are perfected beings.

Zec:13:9:
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.

The verses below are for the 12 Tribes and they are resurrected when the last sinner is dead and then the Gentiles that qualify for the Re"20:4 list will join them. By evening of that day everyone destined to be alive for the 1,000 years will be alive.

Eze:37:23-28:
Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols,
nor with their detestable things,
nor with any of their transgressions:
but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned,
and will cleanse them:
so shall they be my people,
and I will be their God.
And David my servant shall be king over them;
and they all shall have one shepherd:
they shall also walk in my judgments,
and observe my statutes,
and do them.

And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant,
wherein your fathers have dwelt;
and they shall dwell therein,
even they,
and their children,
and their children's children for ever:
and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them;
it shall be an everlasting covenant with them:
and I will place them,
and multiply them,
and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
My tabernacle also shall be with them:
yea,
I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel,
when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

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Don't piss your self screaming when you get there.
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What I don't understand is how someone could worship a god who would allow something like that to happen to creatures he supposedly loves...

And no, you are not alone in your thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57373501


So God is supposed to take a free will man that choose to rape and murder little kids in time on earth and let's say that man never gets caught ....

And then he stands before God in the afterlife and God being a righteous and just creature is supposed to do what exactly? ... That hypothetical man made his own choices ...he engaged his own free will and committed evil acts ...

In essence this man sent himself to hell ....God enforces the just and righteous judgement that is self evident
 Quoting: Simple_Man

Death is the price demanded by God up to the day the 7th trump of Re:11 sounds. On that day the price of getting sins voided requires death and rather than it being death and sleep it is death and still being awake.

Job:14:12-17:
So man lieth down,
and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time,
and remember me!
If a man die,
shall he live again?
all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
Thou shalt call,
and I will answer thee:
thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.
For now thou numberest my steps:
dost thou not watch over my sin?
My transgression is sealed up in a bag,
and thou sewest up mine iniquity.


Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.

Isaiah:14 is the reason men are awake for the 1,000 years.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
"Hell" sounds like somewhere that someone doesnt want to go.

If a sinner goes to hell he'll be right at home, it'll be his heaven.

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Thread: What is it with CHRISTIANS and their worship of HELL??
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Thread: All HAIL the GOD OF DEATH..cuz he loves you..I think...

THIS thread is even more tragic.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Even if there is a hell, why would the demons get to laugh their asses off and rule it like it's their kingdom and only the people suffer? There are maybe, semi famous people who supposedly died and had visions of demons torturing people in hell and others who actually believe that that's happening. Sorry but that's just stupid.
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Well my silly little friend the Bible says nothing of demons torturing people. Maybe u should turn off the simpsons and do a little reading once in a while. The "Demons" or fallen ones will be tortured far more than the human souls that entered hell. They are there to suffer, not have superiority. In fact the Bible says that in hell lucifer himslef will be looked upon human souls and they (the human souls) will be amazed at what a small unassuming little creature he actually is and will be amazed that this yutz had the ability to do what he did to the world.
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Don't piss your self screaming when you get there.
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Because I don't think its logical that an evil spirit will have the authority to torture a less evil being for all eternity?
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
What I don't understand is how someone could worship a god who would allow something like that to happen to creatures he supposedly loves...

And no, you are not alone in your thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57373501


So God is supposed to take a free will man that choose to rape and murder little kids in time on earth and let's say that man never gets caught ....

And then he stands before God in the afterlife and God being a righteous and just creature is supposed to do what exactly? ... That hypothetical man made his own choices ...he engaged his own free will and committed evil acts ...

In essence this man sent himself to hell ....God enforces the just and righteous judgement that is self evident
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man chose to ?? how do you know what type of free will some one has??

what mental state and control a man who kills and rapes little kids has?

did you ever rape little kids and killed them?? do you understand the severity of mental and traumatic exposures ?? NO because you are very simple minded

to think that every aspect of wrong doing is a product of choice just shows how un educated you are..

just like your theory on being in pits of hell and burning

news flash for you buddy...

torment and burning is a physical feeling ..expierenced on behalf of the central nervous system and cells in an actual human body and brain which create those feelings..

you are telling me when i die my non working central nervous system is going to feel burning? and torment?? thats weird because these are physical feelings

im gonna feel hell?? lol fear? scared? torment? dark??

um these are feelings that take place in a human body on behalf of brain chemistry ..how in the world am i gonna feel these feelings and torment if my brain is no longer active ..
have you ever went under the knife? surgery??

you know where certain nerves are off and most if not all a vast majority of neurotransmitters are blocked??

how did it feel??

oh thats right lol

you felt nothing because just like death those cells are off

so please for the sake of life stop talking about nonsense
and inducing fear in people when you dont even know 1% of how a human body works and why we feel
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I am always humored by the thoughts and beliefs that our tiny human brains conclude and we think we have it all figured out, even though we are just a spec on this little sphere in such a vast space with so very little time. Even so, the speculation is entertaining.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Even if there is a hell, why would the demons get to laugh their asses off and rule it like it's their kingdom and only the people suffer? There are maybe, semi famous people who supposedly died and had visions of demons torturing people in hell and others who actually believe that that's happening. Sorry but that's just stupid.
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Just a manufactured scare tactic.
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Pretty much.
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks the idea of demons torturing people in hell is just silly?
Even if there is a hell, why would the demons get to laugh their asses off and rule it like it's their kingdom and only the people suffer? There are maybe, semi famous people who supposedly died and had visions of demons torturing people in hell and others who actually believe that that's happening. Sorry but that's just stupid.
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It's actually holy angels who are doing the torture.

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