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Why our hospitals are close to total failure/modern day patients/ obamacare

 
Just Me
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OP is an insurance industry shill.

Their propagandists are out there promoting the idea that if someone's life is going to cost too much money, then that person should die.

OP packaged this propaganda in the form of an anti-Obamacare rant so that it would be more palatable.
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Sorry, but you are wrong. I worked with many poor in urban areas for decades who parents all had existences just as OP described.

Also, my oldest, closest friend is an RN whose job is to call Medicaid patients who are foreign nationals, living in foreign countries to make sure that they are getting their follow up visits and medications. They were all signed up for this scam of a program when they visited the US and signed paperwork claiming to be refugees for political purposes, sought out medical treatment as indigents and returned to their home countries once treatment was provided. The system continues to pay for all of it, in fact it is so bad that these foreigners are given prescriptions for Tylenol so that Medicaid will pay for that too!

My Buddy makes big bucks, the company he works for makes big bucks, and we pay for it all. The system is SO BROKEN that taxpaying American citizens actually hand out free medical treatments and drugs to foreigners living in foreign countries. Unbelievable!
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Protect oneself, adapt and keep running on the treadmill to nowhere
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Yes. Does this not prove that Obama, and ALL of the USA govt leadership, are the enemies of the American People? It should.

Name anything that has improved since 9-11.

It can't be done.

America is under attack by the very people who claim to be the govt. Why do people continue to obey these people?

I am not calling for violence or protests in the streets. I'm asking why people obey? Peaceful non-compliance to "laws and rules" that harm us, is a good thing.

Why do people obey?
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Do you? Ever? Even a little? Betcha do. It's not that easy to conduct civil disobedience when the system is so deeply entrenched. We've been sedated by affluence. I pray for an immense wake-up call, before our get-up-and-go has gone.
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this is why we need death panels.
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Oh PLEASE. "Woe is me, I still make six figures per year working for the pharmacy industrial complex!" Shut your trap.

As someone with a chronic staph infection in his sinuses, getting you jerks to simply do what I ask is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers: IMPOSSIBLE. Six years in, and I still can't get the medication I've researched myself and know I need. You just refuse to give me the right stuff, you'd rather prescribe me fluoroquin-based "antibiotics" which are known to destroy bodies and were pulled from the market three times because they are essentially deadly poison. You'd rather insist I get a CT scan just so you can "make sure" I have an infection even though I've had four different cultures conducted and they all came up positive for staph aureus. I'm able to control my reflexes and manually suck globs of staph out of my sinuses and spit them onto a petri dish for you and you still insist on bombarding me with cancer and poison, just to drain me of more money and time. Never, EVER do you treat the CAUSE, you just look at the symptom... and you try to create more symptoms.

You look down your nose at us for daring to try to have any say in what we put in our bodies. I'm certain you personally have ruined lives with your careless misdiagnoses. I'm certain you personally have killed people as a result of your selfishness and intellectual laziness. You're all the same.

And now, you try to get US to feel sorry for YOU... LOL.

If your life as a hospital employee truly is horrible now because of Obamacare, which I find hard to believe, then consider it karma. You deserve to suffer for using your position of authority and perceived wisdom to blindly push whatever dangerous untested drugs onto us Big Daddy Pharma tells you to, trying to treat the symptoms instead of the cause, giving us unnecessary cancer-causing CT scans just to work towards paying off the price you paid for the CT scanner, etc.

You are devils in angel's clothing.
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Lets see, if one can clear 100k or more as a salesman or rep for a desirable product for 40 hrs a week, no nights, weekends or holidays, or make the same money or maybe a fraction more working 90 hrs per week, every weekend, night and holiday dealing with demanding rude people who only want their fantasies indulged pronto or they will seek representation, which would you do?

That's what its become.
People that are educated and clever cannot help but throw off the thankless responsibility and do something else.

In the states, nobody can become well to do by their own hands, they need to manage a hundred other hands and take half of each hands take for their management fee.
That's the problem, the artisan, the solo practitioner in any area cannot keep up, leaving them to seek the shelter of someone connected to work for, resulting in a decreasing pool of independents and a increasingly powerful caste of govt connected or licensed managers which have the inside track thanks to some occult connection with some govt management connection.


There is no more benefit to being a health practitioner, you are nothing more than someones fantasy of there entitlement to govt provided benefit package.

Just like in the UK where there are nothing but Paki or other doctors that have no time or concern for their patients beyond whatever capitation scheme they are part of, and that will be your lot, where you will be treated by surely govt employees with their eye on the clock and the statistics and little else.
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The whole system is set up to fail. It begins with the patient who doesn't take control of their life style by eating right and exercising. They become dependent on drugs and other procedures to keep them alive. Big food businesses giving poor food options, which is causing most of our illnesses, mostly caused by autoimmune disease the body attacking itself. Eating foods of high sugar, GMO, and processed foods. When a patient go to a doctor they will only treat the symptoms rather then the cause of the disease by giving more drugs, more test and more drugs for their depression and anxiety because that is what a doctor are trained to do. What we need is more naturopathic doctors that treat the whole body not just the symptoms and boycott the markets of the foods that are slowly killing us. Our bodies are remarkable when given the right fuel it can heal itself of most diseases.

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The system is not designed to produce healthy, intelligent people. The system is designed to create sedentary, fat, broken people, who are programmed to go to see a Doctor for any, and every single issue. Got a cold or flu? Better go see the Doctor. Stupid. The system feeds pills that mask the problem, rather than solve it. The big picture is about global control and population reduction. The "pill bill", which is already in the trillions, will be paid with hard assets, like land. The debts accrued by the sick will be paid, with their homes, their land, the public land. Stop putting focus on non-compliant people, cause they are complying with their programming, they're eating what they're being feed. It isn't financially viable anymore for many, to eat healthy. How can you eat healthy when the food czars don't even give you the right to know what is, and isn't, in your food>GMO.
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Seems to me that the population as a whole is going insane with their demands and the costs are going wayyyyyyy up to try to meet their demands, while at the same time, the healthy working class is going wayyyyyy down. No jobs. No future. What the health insurance lobbyists and health insurance companies have devised with aca is an attempt to force the remaining young healthy population that still have jobs to pay for fatty sitting in the hospital ordering dominos pizza while he gets an insulin drip.
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You are right and the whole thing is insane. The families stalk, abuse and harass the staff. They don't want to understand that each doc and nurse has an unmanageable number of patients each. But they each want "service". They don't care if your septic patient his crashing out and you have about 2 minutes to get him sorted out. They want what they want first or they get nasty and complain about the level of "service" you are giving them.
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The whole system is set up to fail. It begins with the patient who doesn't take control of their life style by eating right and exercising. They become dependent on drugs and other procedures to keep them alive. Big food businesses giving poor food options, which is causing most of our illnesses, mostly caused by autoimmune disease the body attacking itself. Eating foods of high sugar, GMO, and processed foods. When a patient go to a doctor they will only treat the symptoms rather then the cause of the disease by giving more drugs, more test and more drugs for their depression and anxiety because that is what a doctor are trained to do. What we need is more naturopathic doctors that treat the whole body not just the symptoms and boycott the markets of the foods that are slowly killing us. Our bodies are remarkable when given the right fuel it can heal itself of most diseases.

rant
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Wow, you and I are certainly on the same page.peace
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somebody is suffering "burnout". If you can take some time off, now would be a good time.
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It's not burnout. It's a typical day at any hospital.
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Change professions now. I was a nurse and the scenerio you describe existed 30 years ago. It will only get worse. They are trying to collapse the system we have now so they can institute all government healthcare. It might be a relief.
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Oh PLEASE. "Woe is me, I still make six figures per year working for the pharmacy industrial complex!" Shut your trap.

As someone with a chronic staph infection in his sinuses, getting you jerks to simply do what I ask is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers: IMPOSSIBLE. Six years in, and I still can't get the medication I've researched myself and know I need. You just refuse to give me the right stuff, you'd rather prescribe me fluoroquin-based "antibiotics" which are known to destroy bodies and were pulled from the market three times because they are essentially deadly poison. You'd rather insist I get a CT scan just so you can "make sure" I have an infection even though I've had four different cultures conducted and they all came up positive for staph aureus. I'm able to control my reflexes and manually suck globs of staph out of my sinuses and spit them onto a petri dish for you and you still insist on bombarding me with cancer and poison, just to drain me of more money and time. Never, EVER do you treat the CAUSE, you just look at the symptom... and you try to create more symptoms.

You look down your nose at us for daring to try to have any say in what we put in our bodies. I'm certain you personally have ruined lives with your careless misdiagnoses. I'm certain you personally have killed people as a result of your selfishness and intellectual laziness. You're all the same.

And now, you try to get US to feel sorry for YOU... LOL.

If your life as a hospital employee truly is horrible now because of Obamacare, which I find hard to believe, then consider it karma. You deserve to suffer for using your position of authority and perceived wisdom to blindly push whatever dangerous untested drugs onto us Big Daddy Pharma tells you to, trying to treat the symptoms instead of the cause, giving us unnecessary cancer-causing CT scans just to work towards paying off the price you paid for the CT scanner, etc.

You are devils in angel's clothing.
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clappa

Exactly!
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Oh PLEASE. "Woe is me, I still make six figures per year working for the pharmacy industrial complex!" Shut your trap.

As someone with a chronic staph infection in his sinuses, getting you jerks to simply do what I ask is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers: IMPOSSIBLE. Six years in, and I still can't get the medication I've researched myself and know I need. You just refuse to give me the right stuff, you'd rather prescribe me fluoroquin-based "antibiotics" which are known to destroy bodies and were pulled from the market three times because they are essentially deadly poison. You'd rather insist I get a CT scan just so you can "make sure" I have an infection even though I've had four different cultures conducted and they all came up positive for staph aureus. I'm able to control my reflexes and manually suck globs of staph out of my sinuses and spit them onto a petri dish for you and you still insist on bombarding me with cancer and poison, just to drain me of more money and time. Never, EVER do you treat the CAUSE, you just look at the symptom... and you try to create more symptoms.

You look down your nose at us for daring to try to have any say in what we put in our bodies. I'm certain you personally have ruined lives with your careless misdiagnoses. I'm certain you personally have killed people as a result of your selfishness and intellectual laziness. You're all the same.

And now, you try to get US to feel sorry for YOU... LOL.

If your life as a hospital employee truly is horrible now because of Obamacare, which I find hard to believe, then consider it karma. You deserve to suffer for using your position of authority and perceived wisdom to blindly push whatever dangerous untested drugs onto us Big Daddy Pharma tells you to, trying to treat the symptoms instead of the cause, giving us unnecessary cancer-causing CT scans just to work towards paying off the price you paid for the CT scanner, etc.

You are devils in angel's clothing.
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clappa

Exactly!
 Quoting: Sunset Voulebard


Nurses have no authority or control over anything, asshat.

We simply are responsible for too many patients at once and shackled with too many rules and regulations. Therefore no matter how hard we try, we fail because we are set up to do so. And I do not make a 6 figure salary. I make the same hourly as a restaurant manager whether I have 10 patients or 20, whether or not they are critically ill or easy, whether or not is the weekend or holidays. And I pay out the ass for malpractice insurance. And we now work every weekend and holiday with no extra pay because of the cutting of staffing levels.

The financial managers of the hospitals are the ones who make money off of you, not the practioners. I don't get to charge extra when I have more patients or they are extra difficult medically.
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Blame the patient!? Gee, you wouldn't think there could be someone or something else to blame!? Greed, treachery, thievery and hypocracy at the highest levels of the health care industry perhaps!? The top echelon, the so called "elites", have been robbing the common man for a long time. I remember a few years back we rented a boat on a large lake and while boating we passed the fanciest and largest boat we have ever seen. It had a redone antique wooden boat for a dingy, two gorgeous jet skis on a back ramp and our mouths dropped when we saw a helicopter on the roof of this enormous monstrosity! It most have cost over a million dollars! We found out it belonged to a local doctor!! One doctor, not a group! Now how about telling me again about these nasty patients that just won't die in a timely manner!!!! Grrrrrrr!!!
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Employers are putting more and more on each person while they downsize, it's been happening for years.

It happens in the offices all across America. It's easy to get frustrated with the very people THAT PAY YOU.

That being said, stop blaming the people THAT PAY FOR YOUR SERVICES and start blaming the administrators for taking on more patients than the allotted staff can handle.
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as a matter of fact I am not allowed to charge you at all. My hourly rate is set by hospital financial managers.
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Employers are putting more and more on each person while they downsize, it's been happening for years.

It happens in the offices all across America. It's easy to get frustrated with the very people THAT PAY YOU.

That being said, stop blaming the people THAT PAY FOR YOUR SERVICES and start blaming the administrators for taking on more patients than the allotted staff can handle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54980830


The patients don't "pay me douchebag". I am not allowed to charge patients for my services and we are required to work a lot of unpaid overtime as a mandatory thing or get reported to the state for patient abandonment.

I would charge 10 dollars per hour per patient if I was in control then I would stop myself at 4 to 5 patients so I could give great care. I would charge extra if they were obese. That would get me 40-50 dollars an hour rather than the 25 I make now taking 10 patients with varying degrees of difficulty and having to stay over and do unpaid overtime at the end of my 12 hour shift.
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Well everyone knows it is designed to fail.

Once it does and that is a shiny Government hospital with free medical care for all -- and you're a Government employee on a set pay scale then everything will be great.
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Employers are putting more and more on each person while they downsize, it's been happening for years.

It happens in the offices all across America. It's easy to get frustrated with the very people THAT PAY YOU.

That being said, stop blaming the people THAT PAY FOR YOUR SERVICES and start blaming the administrators for taking on more patients than the allotted staff can handle.
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But your average office worker does not have life and death responsibility. I am forced to take too many patients with no extra pay and if one of them dies or gets hurt because I cannot be 10 places at once I end up in front the coroner and charged with manslaughter. The managers who set the staffing levels walk free and clear, always. It's a little different from working short staffed in a bank, faggot.
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Oh PLEASE. "Woe is me, I still make six figures per year working for the pharmacy industrial complex!" Shut your trap.

As someone with a chronic staph infection in his sinuses, getting you jerks to simply do what I ask is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers: IMPOSSIBLE. Six years in, and I still can't get the medication I've researched myself and know I need. You just refuse to give me the right stuff, you'd rather prescribe me fluoroquin-based "antibiotics" which are known to destroy bodies and were pulled from the market three times because they are essentially deadly poison. You'd rather insist I get a CT scan just so you can "make sure" I have an infection even though I've had four different cultures conducted and they all came up positive for staph aureus. I'm able to control my reflexes and manually suck globs of staph out of my sinuses and spit them onto a petri dish for you and you still insist on bombarding me with cancer and poison, just to drain me of more money and time. Never, EVER do you treat the CAUSE, you just look at the symptom... and you try to create more symptoms.

You look down your nose at us for daring to try to have any say in what we put in our bodies. I'm certain you personally have ruined lives with your careless misdiagnoses. I'm certain you personally have killed people as a result of your selfishness and intellectual laziness. You're all the same.

And now, you try to get US to feel sorry for YOU... LOL.

If your life as a hospital employee truly is horrible now because of Obamacare, which I find hard to believe, then consider it karma. You deserve to suffer for using your position of authority and perceived wisdom to blindly push whatever dangerous untested drugs onto us Big Daddy Pharma tells you to, trying to treat the symptoms instead of the cause, giving us unnecessary cancer-causing CT scans just to work towards paying off the price you paid for the CT scanner, etc.

You are devils in angel's clothing.
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clappa

Exactly!
 Quoting: Sunset Voulebard


Nurses have no authority or control over anything, asshat.

We simply are responsible for too many patients at once and shackled with too many rules and regulations. Therefore no matter how hard we try, we fail because we are set up to do so. And I do not make a 6 figure salary. I make the same hourly as a restaurant manager whether I have 10 patients or 20, whether or not they are critically ill or easy, whether or not is the weekend or holidays. And I pay out the ass for malpractice insurance. And we now work every weekend and holiday with no extra pay because of the cutting of staffing levels.

The financial managers of the hospitals are the ones who make money off of you, not the practioners. I don't get to charge extra when I have more patients or they are extra difficult medically.
 Quoting: OP 7191620


I feel sorry for you then. I can't imagine how horrible it must be not to be able to charge extra for patient care.

I also feel sorry for you that you have to work and that you actually have to endure working without extra pay!

My god. How awful for you.

And those administrators who treat you like slaves must be more tolerable than the patients whose lives you are tasked with caring for acting like assholes when their bodies give out. Their pain, agony and suffering are nothing compared to yours.

I'm so very sad for you. I might not be able to sleep tonight, worrying about your welfare.
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People that become a drain to society should be left by the wayside.
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That's exactly the plan.
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All I am saying that if highly educated health care professionals were allowed to charge like plumbers and babysitters do and were not forced to work extra without any pay so often YOU HEALTH CARE COSTS WOULD BE A HELL OF A LOT HIGHER. Hows about a little gratitude.

You know how much the hospitals save by forcing RNs into unpaid, mandatory overtime? Those savings keep your medical bills lower.
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All I am saying that if highly educated health care professionals were allowed to charge like plumbers and babysitters do and were not forced to work extra without any pay so often YOU HEALTH CARE COSTS WOULD BE A HELL OF A LOT HIGHER. Hows about a little gratitude.

You know how much the hospitals save by forcing RNs into unpaid, mandatory overtime? Those savings keep your medical bills lower.
 Quoting: OP 7191620


If you're on salary, them's the breaks. It's no different in any other industry.

You want to talk about hard work? Try a draw against commission pay scale in blue collar fields.
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This is one big reason they will 'crash the system' for a few months...

To allow the detritus time to die off.
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50 years ago most of our current patients would be dead as a result of their conditions. Now they survive with chronic illness that need management with expensive meds and treatments. Those that devised social security could never have anticipated this.

As a nurse I admit patients in the hospital with past medical histories a mile long. You just wouldnt't believe it :something like 30 medical and 10 psyche conditions listed per patient. They take 20 different meds three times a day. They are miserable, non compliant with treatment plans(fluid restrictions and low salt diets, diabetic diets) but they are obsessed with all their medications and want drug after drug, most are addicted to narcotics too.

That heart attack that would have killed a diabetic, kidney failure patient in 1940 is now survivable. He survives it but he is left with congestive cardiac failure. He is not compliant with controlling his fluid intake and gets readmitted to hospital ever other week. Patients with congestive failure cannot drink to much fluid or they get overloaded and have to come into hospital. He also has emphysema that flairs up and causes him to be readmitted because he still smokes. His diabetes is a problem and he is non compliant with his diet. His family sneak Pepsi, doritos and mcdonalds into his room. His kidneys are shot and that alone should kill him but he gets dialysis. He is supposed to eat a kidney safe diet and gets a lot of education as to why this is important. His response to this education is "fuck off doc, fuck off nurse, I can do what I want." But then he wants the taxpayer to fund millions worth of medications, treatments, and hospitalizations.

When he isn't getting admitted constantly for his congestive cardiac failure flare ups he is getting admitted at least monthly for cellulitis (skin infections) under his skin folds because he is so obese. This requires expensive IV antibiotics on top of his 50 million other medications plus more narcotics for pain control. Then every 5 minutes he is on the call bell, he wants Benadryl, something for anxiety, a pill for nausea, something for indigestion and then more pain meds. He will do this 5 times an hour for 12 hours.
In past decades the heart attack or the diabetes or the kidney failure alone would have killed the guy. Now this train wreck just keeps surviving as a miserable, nasty, hot mess. They are beyond salvation.

What I am describing is all we see in the hospital these days. And when a patient like this finally crashes his family wants ICU, ventilators, tube feedings, ($$$$$$$) and they want to sue everyone. These are the same people who were smuggling cigs, drugs, pepsi, and burger king to the guy.

These patients are also nasty, demanding, and stupid. They cost the system more money than they ever paid in BY MILLIONS. The hospitals are cutting staffing levels to try and deal with the cost. I work at a top American hospital and there was one medical doctor to over 200 medical patients last night. One nurse to every 10 on my ward. And man oh man do these patients get nasty when they don't get what they want when they want it.

Two things to keep in mind about Obamacare:

It hits hospitals with financial penalties when patients like I am describing above are readmitted more than twice a year. According to the government the fault lies with the doctors and nurses for not educating these people about a healthy lifestyle. It is clearly set up to fail.

It hits hospitals with financial penalties when patients complain on press gainey surveys. The complaint can be total bullshit, it doesn't matter. Hospital gets fined if an 800 pound patient complains that two nurses wouldn't lift him up by themselves.

The patient I am describing is readmitted constantly to the hospital due to his life style and conditions. He complains on every survey about the fact that he "couldn't get the food he wanted" (his hospital doctor put him on a diabetic kidney safe diet with restricted fluids because of his heart). He complains that his call bell didn't get answered fast enough when he wanted more narcotics (his nurse had 9 other patients sicker than him). etc etc.

Epic fucking fail.

The staffing level cuts that are being made in our hospitals are nuts. The hospital financial managers know that the budget is really going to get a kicking because of lack of reimbursement from obamacare. We have to admit and take care of people but not only will the government not reimburse for provided care, they are going to constantly fine the hospitals for issues that cannot be helped. The patients think they are in a goddamn hospital and often complaint about "service" not actually grasping that their doc and nurse are overwhelmed with an unreasonable patient load.

It isn't just older people. We get people in their 20s that are obese, addicted to narcotics, already suffering from diabetes and kidney failure, and completely non compliant. They get re-admitted all the time because of wounds under their fat skin folds that require surgery and antibiotics to fix. They are on disability but have ipads, Iphones, marlboros, etc. These high cost non compliant patients (whether young or old) cost so much more than what they ever paid or will pay in taxes

I reckon the hospitals are just going to crash out in the next 10 years. Management is telling us that not even the privately insured patients money can make a dent, so high is the cost of the rest. This is completely unsustainable.

This is what I am seeing. Discuss.
 Quoting: The Registered Nurse 7191620


Yep

use to be an med/surg step down ICU nurse

all true

People treat their bodies like dumpsters and then when it starts to expire

they want someone to do something about it.


This society is made up of lazy , fat , selfish , stupids

this is the result of it
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There are not a lot of things that simply CANNNOT be insured and medical treatment is one of them. Life insurance, no problem, they know the odds of how long we will live and take in enough to pay out those who cash in without any real excess. They pay out only when you die, plus, you are NOT mandated by "law" to buy any, that is key.

Health Insurance, really? What greedy lawyer bastard came up with THAT scam? How can anybody afford to pay enough money up front in premiums to supply the endless chain of ambulance chasing lawyers, high pay doctors and exorbitantly expensive executives with massive paychecks, it is impossible. Insurance relies on one basic principal, take the premiums, deny the service. Not everyone has an auto accident, but everyone receives health care and with rate skyrocketing NO ONE will be able to pay enough into the corrupt system to keep it afloat. It will and it must crash.
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05/03/2014 03:35 PM
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Re: Why our hospitals are close to total failure/modern day patients/ obamacare
Employers are putting more and more on each person while they downsize, it's been happening for years.

It happens in the offices all across America. It's easy to get frustrated with the very people THAT PAY YOU.

That being said, stop blaming the people THAT PAY FOR YOUR SERVICES and start blaming the administrators for taking on more patients than the allotted staff can handle.
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The patients don't "pay me douchebag". I am not allowed to charge patients for my services and we are required to work a lot of unpaid overtime as a mandatory thing or get reported to the state for patient abandonment.

I would charge 10 dollars per hour per patient if I was in control then I would stop myself at 4 to 5 patients so I could give great care. I would charge extra if they were obese. That would get me 40-50 dollars an hour rather than the 25 I make now taking 10 patients with varying degrees of difficulty and having to stay over and do unpaid overtime at the end of my 12 hour shift.
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Are you some kind of idiot?

You wouldn't even get a paycheck if people like me stopped going to the hospital.

Btw, every employee everywhere can make those same statements. You're a certain kind of special.

Time to change professions, you calling names to the very people you should WANT in your hospital. You sound disgruntled and shouldn't be dealing with people when they are vulnerable.
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All I am saying that if highly educated health care professionals were allowed to charge like plumbers and babysitters do and were not forced to work extra without any pay so often YOU HEALTH CARE COSTS WOULD BE A HELL OF A LOT HIGHER. Hows about a little gratitude.

You know how much the hospitals save by forcing RNs into unpaid, mandatory overtime? Those savings keep your medical bills lower.
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If you're on salary, them's the breaks. It's no different in any other industry.

You want to talk about hard work? Try a draw against commission pay scale in blue collar fields.
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Oh please. Blue collar guys don't have life and death responsibility and don't work 15 hours straight without a sip of water or any kind of break.
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Paid an hourly rate, not salaried we are.
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Re: Why our hospitals are close to total failure/modern day patients/ obamacare
Employers are putting more and more on each person while they downsize, it's been happening for years.

It happens in the offices all across America. It's easy to get frustrated with the very people THAT PAY YOU.

That being said, stop blaming the people THAT PAY FOR YOUR SERVICES and start blaming the administrators for taking on more patients than the allotted staff can handle.
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But your average office worker does not have life and death responsibility. I am forced to take too many patients with no extra pay and if one of them dies or gets hurt because I cannot be 10 places at once I end up in front the coroner and charged with manslaughter. The managers who set the staffing levels walk free and clear, always. It's a little different from working short staffed in a bank, faggot.
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Are you f*cking kidding me?

You are on the front lines sweetheart.

There are people working in offices everywhere making life and death decisions.

You hold yourself in too high regard. There are lots of people that have special powers over others.

Please, just quit.