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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7191620 United States 05/03/2014 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is described in the OP is exactly what Big Pharma wants. And actually the people the OP describes are insuring his/her job. Thing is, though, that the patients wouldn't be on so many drugs if the doctors weren't pushing the drugs on them. So why blame the patient? Blame the doctors. They are the ones to push the drugs for Big Pharma. OP is blaming the victims and not the criminals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38067828 I only go to doctors when I need confirmation of what is wrong. And the doctors I go to are only the doctors that allow me to try more natural treatments, once the ailment is identified, first rather than what Big Pharma has to offer. So far so good for me. There aren't too many doctors like that left because most are trained (along with nurses) by Big Pharma but there are some. But in the case of accidents and other emergencies requiring surgeries I admit I am glad the hospitals and the doctors & nurses in them are there. But for disease/illness I avoid hospitals like the plaque. It seems many people come out much worse than when they went in. They do come out worse than they went in because of the poor nurse patient ratios. They get malnutrition because their nurse doesn't have time to feed them because she is constantly dealing with multiple simultaneously emergencies and orders getting thrown at her. The get infected stage 4 pressure ulcers because they are not helped out of bed when their nurse cannot take the time to do it because she is overwhelmed with everything else going on. Drug errors happen. We had a patient die because the family member of another patient was harassing his nurse while she was hanging a fentanyl drip. The drip got fucked up and infused to fast. Not only are the RNs working short but too many patients and families see them as hospital waitresses who are there to provide service rather than seeing them as overwhelmed care providers who have too many life and death problems to deal with at once. The guy who was harassing the nurse hanging the fentanyl drip followed her into another patient's room to harass her because his dad wasn't happy with his meal tray. He distracted the nurse and caused a death. Selfish fucker. Complain to the kitchen dumbass! Nurses have no control over the damn food trays. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7191620 United States 05/03/2014 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of jobs have the same thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 BUT NO job has the element of life and death as many nursing jobs do... You miss something as a nurse and it could mean death for the patient. Take a very unstable patient in the ICU The nurse must know her stuff; as in be smart and know what to look for if the patient begins to '''circle the drain'''' NO job other than nursing has life and death Nurses are the watchers of the critical care units and so forth... Without a competent, good nurse there willing to make sure you survive your stay in the ICU They will be putting 6 inches of dirt over you Yep it is the nurse who is responsible for catching any changes in condition or conflicting and thus deadly orders put in your chart by two different docs who didn't talk to eachother first. Your doc will see you for about 5 minutes once every 24 hours, the rest of the time is down to your RN. So if she gets hung up with retarded family members bitching about food or whatever, you'll die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/03/2014 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is described in the OP is exactly what Big Pharma wants. And actually the people the OP describes are insuring his/her job. Thing is, though, that the patients wouldn't be on so many drugs if the doctors weren't pushing the drugs on them. So why blame the patient? Blame the doctors. They are the ones to push the drugs for Big Pharma. OP is blaming the victims and not the criminals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38067828 I only go to doctors when I need confirmation of what is wrong. And the doctors I go to are only the doctors that allow me to try more natural treatments, once the ailment is identified, first rather than what Big Pharma has to offer. So far so good for me. There aren't too many doctors like that left because most are trained (along with nurses) by Big Pharma but there are some. But in the case of accidents and other emergencies requiring surgeries I admit I am glad the hospitals and the doctors & nurses in them are there. But for disease/illness I avoid hospitals like the plaque. It seems many people come out much worse than when they went in. They do come out worse than they went in because of the poor nurse patient ratios. They get malnutrition because their nurse doesn't have time to feed them because she is constantly dealing with multiple simultaneously emergencies and orders getting thrown at her. The get infected stage 4 pressure ulcers because they are not helped out of bed when their nurse cannot take the time to do it because she is overwhelmed with everything else going on. Drug errors happen. We had a patient die because the family member of another patient was harassing his nurse while she was hanging a fentanyl drip. The drip got fucked up and infused to fast. Not only are the RNs working short but too many patients and families see them as hospital waitresses who are there to provide service rather than seeing them as overwhelmed care providers who have too many life and death problems to deal with at once. The guy who was harassing the nurse hanging the fentanyl drip followed her into another patient's room to harass her because his dad wasn't happy with his meal tray. He distracted the nurse and caused a death. Selfish fucker. Complain to the kitchen dumbass! Nurses have no control over the damn food trays. All that you describe is the result of our SICKO culture. The adminstration of all hospitals just want $$$$$$ greed has taken over all of this culture to a far and beyond pathelogical state but no one is healthy enough mentally EITHER to care about it and try to change it What they do is take the nurses license if he or she cant take care of ALL those patients and find more nurses Our culture is sick ; and filled with pschos who only care about $$$$$$$ This is a symptoms of FALL OF EMPIRE it is eroding from within and falling |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57278223 United States 05/03/2014 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is an insurance industry shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57278223 Their propagandists are out there promoting the idea that if someone's life is going to cost too much money, then that person should die. OP packaged this propaganda in the form of an anti-Obamacare rant so that it would be more palatable. Sorry, but you are wrong. I worked with many poor in urban areas for decades who parents all had existences just as OP described ... etc. You replied to my post, but you didn't refute what I said. OP is an insurance industry shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57278223 Their propagandists are out there promoting the idea that if someone's life is going to cost too much money, then that person should die. OP packaged this propaganda in the form of an anti-Obamacare rant so that it would be more palatable. Not so, the great proportion of hospitalizations are from lifestyle choices of drugs, alcohol or unnecesary risks ... etc. You replied to my post, but you didn't refute what I said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46270669 United States 05/03/2014 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole system is set up to fail. It begins with the patient who doesn't take control of their life style by eating right and exercising. They become dependent on drugs and other procedures to keep them alive. Big food businesses giving poor food options, which is causing most of our illnesses, mostly caused by autoimmune disease the body attacking itself. Eating foods of high sugar, GMO, and processed foods. When a patient go to a doctor they will only treat the symptoms rather then the cause of the disease by giving more drugs, more test and more drugs for their depression and anxiety because that is what a doctor are trained to do. What we need is more naturopathic doctors that treat the whole body not just the symptoms and boycott the markets of the foods that are slowly killing us. Our bodies are remarkable when given the right fuel it can heal itself of most diseases. Quoting: Terrebonne Well Said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54200163 United States 05/03/2014 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100% agree with the OP. I work in healthcare too and see EXACTLY what the poster is stating. It is fact. It is a sordid state of affairs. A 550lb woman came in that other day with tattoos all over her corpulent body with 10 face piercings, of course on welfare with an iphone to boot. Payouts to physicians are decreasing. There are doctors who are retiring early and leaving groups that have been together for years. Our volume has increased because of ACA. This is becoming familiar, "Well, I have not have insurance in years, so now with OCare I am getting all this stuff done." They are complete trainwrecks. I cannot imagine where healthcare will be in 10 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54980830 United States 05/03/2014 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The world changed and now nurses are going to hold everyone accountable for choices they've made for the past 40 years that started back when freedom and choices were only yours to deal with and if you could pay for care you got it, if not, you didn't. Now nurses will be moral police because the rules changed on these people. Sad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/03/2014 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of jobs have the same thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 BUT NO job has the element of life and death as many nursing jobs do... You miss something as a nurse and it could mean death for the patient. Take a very unstable patient in the ICU The nurse must know her stuff; as in be smart and know what to look for if the patient begins to '''circle the drain'''' NO job other than nursing has life and death Nurses are the watchers of the critical care units and so forth... Without a competent, good nurse there willing to make sure you survive your stay in the ICU They will be putting 6 inches of dirt over you Yep it is the nurse who is responsible for catching any changes in condition or conflicting and thus deadly orders put in your chart by two different docs who didn't talk to eachother first. Your doc will see you for about 5 minutes once every 24 hours, the rest of the time is down to your RN. So if she gets hung up with retarded family members bitching about food or whatever, you'll die. Yep I use to catch the doc in the moring chart on the patients and never even go into their rooms to see them.... they would just chart off of what the nurse did the night before.... I made the doc go into the rooms and look at the patient!!!! They hated me ; but I didn't care....this was malpractice So many things made me want to leave the profession due to me being afraid for the patients ; and yes my license.... THe hospital administration is responsible for downzising those in the first line; those who work in the trenches. This is one of the major reasons for all the hospital errors today but no one will admit it because money and politics are more important than really fixing the problems |
OP (OP) User ID: 7191620 United States 05/03/2014 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of jobs have the same thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 BUT NO job has the element of life and death as many nursing jobs do... You miss something as a nurse and it could mean death for the patient. Take a very unstable patient in the ICU The nurse must know her stuff; as in be smart and know what to look for if the patient begins to '''circle the drain'''' NO job other than nursing has life and death Nurses are the watchers of the critical care units and so forth... Without a competent, good nurse there willing to make sure you survive your stay in the ICU They will be putting 6 inches of dirt over you Yep it is the nurse who is responsible for catching any changes in condition or conflicting and thus deadly orders put in your chart by two different docs who didn't talk to eachother first. Your doc will see you for about 5 minutes once every 24 hours, the rest of the time is down to your RN. So if she gets hung up with retarded family members bitching about food or whatever, you'll die. Yep I use to catch the doc in the moring chart on the patients and never even go into their rooms to see them.... they would just chart off of what the nurse did the night before.... I made the doc go into the rooms and look at the patient!!!! They hated me ; but I didn't care....this was malpractice So many things made me want to leave the profession due to me being afraid for the patients ; and yes my license.... THe hospital administration is responsible for downzising those in the first line; those who work in the trenches. This is one of the major reasons for all the hospital errors today but no one will admit it because money and politics are more important than really fixing the problems Yep but if you don't get in with a pain med right away because one of your other patients is going down the tube you can bet your ass that the patient wanting the pain med will say "that bitch nurse didn't get me my narcotics because I'm black". Patients never yell or curse at managers who short staff the place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/03/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of jobs have the same thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 BUT NO job has the element of life and death as many nursing jobs do... You miss something as a nurse and it could mean death for the patient. Take a very unstable patient in the ICU The nurse must know her stuff; as in be smart and know what to look for if the patient begins to '''circle the drain'''' NO job other than nursing has life and death Nurses are the watchers of the critical care units and so forth... Without a competent, good nurse there willing to make sure you survive your stay in the ICU They will be putting 6 inches of dirt over you Yep it is the nurse who is responsible for catching any changes in condition or conflicting and thus deadly orders put in your chart by two different docs who didn't talk to eachother first. Your doc will see you for about 5 minutes once every 24 hours, the rest of the time is down to your RN. So if she gets hung up with retarded family members bitching about food or whatever, you'll die. Yep I use to catch the doc in the moring chart on the patients and never even go into their rooms to see them.... they would just chart off of what the nurse did the night before.... I made the doc go into the rooms and look at the patient!!!! They hated me ; but I didn't care....this was malpractice So many things made me want to leave the profession due to me being afraid for the patients ; and yes my license.... THe hospital administration is responsible for downzising those in the first line; those who work in the trenches. This is one of the major reasons for all the hospital errors today but no one will admit it because money and politics are more important than really fixing the problems Yep but if you don't get in with a pain med right away because one of your other patients is going down the tube you can bet your ass that the patient wanting the pain med will say "that bitch nurse didn't get me my narcotics because I'm black". Patients never yell or curse at managers who short staff the place. Of course not this society is brainwashed into the master/slave mentality The manager is ok because he or she has a '''title'''' the nurse is not The overall REAL problem of all hospitals is the nurse /patient ratio the adminsitration doesn't want to staff the floors like they should be because of $$$$ greed and politics is what our culture is all about... No one will ever address the real issues ; it will never happen it WILL all crash one day Just like all the other empires have done. A panel of smart competent nurses from all areas of the hosptital could probably solve most of the problems in each hospital but this will never happen because of that master /slave mentality again |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1447110 United States 05/03/2014 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can confirm OP's description. Quoting: Anonymous Mom 2610156 I have current knowledge/experience in ER. I believe the main problem is that patients have no/limited financial responsibility (due to private insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.) for medical care. As a result, a $5,0000 trip to the ER has no cost. The same people come in over and over, seeking (and even demanding) drugs, attention, etc. We cannot refuse treatment. The icing on the cake is that the hospital's reimbursement from Medicare is tied to patient satisfaction. Unfortunately, the survey from the patient with the massive MI (heart attack) is given the same weight as the patient with unexplained pain requesting narcotics by brand name. Please try to know there are ligitimate pain patients. I had infection that got into my spinal fluid and ended up in er 4 times. Was admitted to the hospital and sent home over and over. They denied I was in pain! Yes I took 4 vicodon a day. I was treated terribly in er due to the fact I was on pain medication. Fever and chills got so bad I ended up getting mri and spinal tap. I had one doctor yell at me while taking a biopsy if I was faking? Exploratory surgery revealed gangrene and I almost died because of all the time it took to diagnose. It was due to a birth defect. I was treated badly because I was young and female and had unexplained pain. No I am not overweight a bit. I wonder if they yelled at You because they have to deal with Obama supporters all day. I too deal with pain on a daily basis and can't get help because the majority of the people out there are pill heads. I have gotten so tired of the pain that I have started working out to try to correct the problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28285524 United States 05/03/2014 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don't doctors speak up about these issue? You never hear anything in the press. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56844832 Doctor/patient confidentially (you can'talk about patients), hippa(privacy regulations ) that only seem to apply to benefit the govt ,not the patient. My wife is a "charge" RN on a med/surgical floor. I can concur with op's post. I hear the same stories every day. But we all have to pay more so fat-azz can keep burning oxygen. the U.S. medical system wasn't "broken". Certainly not by "greedy" corporations. No matter how many times the dems repeat it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/03/2014 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got off my 14 hour shift ; the worse yet. My white uniform had blood on it.... had to throw it away and wear a friends second pair of scrubs home. As I was getting into my ford fiesta.... ... I saw '''Sarah'''' she got a job in hospital administration a few years ago. She now drives a BMW; covertible the newest model. She works 9 to 5... but who knows ; she makes her own hours.... She told me the other day they were considering downsizing the night nursing staff AGAIN for the 3rd time as they didn't believe night nurses worked as hard a day nurses ; and also, that night shift pay differential will go away too for all night nursing staff in the hospital The night nurses don't need it.... TRUE story |
JamesB User ID: 57657489 Canada 05/03/2014 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can confirm OP's description. Quoting: Anonymous Mom 2610156 I have current knowledge/experience in ER. I believe the main problem is that patients have no/limited financial responsibility (due to private insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.) for medical care. As a result, a $5,0000 trip to the ER has no cost. The same people come in over and over, seeking (and even demanding) drugs, attention, etc. We cannot refuse treatment. The icing on the cake is that the hospital's reimbursement from Medicare is tied to patient satisfaction. Unfortunately, the survey from the patient with the massive MI (heart attack) is given the same weight as the patient with unexplained pain requesting narcotics by brand name. Please try to know there are ligitimate pain patients. I had infection that got into my spinal fluid and ended up in er 4 times. Was admitted to the hospital and sent home over and over. They denied I was in pain! Yes I took 4 vicodon a day. I was treated terribly in er due to the fact I was on pain medication. Fever and chills got so bad I ended up getting mri and spinal tap. I had one doctor yell at me while taking a biopsy if I was faking? Exploratory surgery revealed gangrene and I almost died because of all the time it took to diagnose. It was due to a birth defect. I was treated badly because I was young and female and had unexplained pain. No I am not overweight a bit. I wonder if they yelled at You because they have to deal with Obama supporters all day. I too deal with pain on a daily basis and can't get help because the majority of the people out there are pill heads. I have gotten so tired of the pain that I have started working out to try to correct the problem. Read and apply this [link to jamesb.hubpages.com] if you really want to get rid of the pain. JamesB |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57302027 United States 05/03/2014 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes all true. Have worked in a hospital over 20 years. Noncompliance is a big factor. If people took care of themselves instead of expecting the government, the docs and nurses to do it then we'd have a much healthier healthcare system. Nurses tell me that half their work with some patients is the family wanting a blanket, water etc, for themselves not the patient. Waiting on family members is not what the nurse is supposed to be doing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/03/2014 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real example from the past and the master/slave mentality: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 I got off my 14 hour shift ; the worse yet. My white uniform had blood on it.... had to throw it away and wear a friends second pair of scrubs home. As I was getting into my ford fiesta.... ... I saw '''Sarah'''' she got a job in hospital administration a few years ago. She now drives a BMW; covertible the newest model. She works 9 to 5... but who knows ; she makes her own hours.... She told me the other day they were considering downsizing the night nursing staff AGAIN for the 3rd time as they didn't believe night nurses worked as hard a day nurses ; and also, that night shift pay differential will go away too for all night nursing staff in the hospital The night nurses don't need it.... TRUE story Yep this is a great example of the problem greed, selfish greed all true the problem is huge and will never be fixed because no one wants to address or tear down the real problems the master /slave mentality it goes on and on endlessly |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54980830 United States 05/03/2014 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes all true. Have worked in a hospital over 20 years. Noncompliance is a big factor. If people took care of themselves instead of expecting the government, the docs and nurses to do it then we'd have a much healthier healthcare system. Nurses tell me that half their work with some patients is the family wanting a blanket, water etc, for themselves not the patient. Waiting on family members is not what the nurse is supposed to be doing. Good god! They changed the rules and now you're passing judgement on the people? Screw that thought of yours! The staffing issue is a good point, your judgments on others sucks, though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513156 United States 05/03/2014 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't try to make people who are not nurses understand. Experience is the only way to truly understand what a nurse's job is like these days. It didn't used to be like this. Nursing was rewarding some days, others, not so much, but at least there were the rewarding days to keep one going back to work with a smile and some love to give. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42421044 I understand you, and everything you said is true, but that's because I am a nurse. Best wishes to you in the frustrations to come! And don't forget that even if it is 1 in 1,000 patients...and/or family members...someone will appreciate what you have done for them. A smile can do so much for someone else too! One thing the non nurses here haven't considered, is that once you have an education in nursing and have spent your money and time getting it, you are not about to change your career! One has to actually make money to pay the bills! It is not your fault that you had no idea what the job truly entails! College does not give one a true experience of actually being a nurse! 90% of what you were forced to learn is useless! Hands-on is reality! Yes Only those who have been in the trenchens know what it is all about. I, however, did change my life. I got out of direct care and got an IT degree and now work in IT world. I was a nurse for a long time and got burned out. I took care of too many patients at one time ; as the hospital administration kept downsizing those in the key trench positions; the job become more and more dangerous for both the patient and the lisense. What you nurses don't seem to understand is that you aren't the only profession with these problems. Everything that's not desk work is getting pushed just as hard, and even the desk jockeys rarely get a strict 40hr week anymore. I thought I had a light day in my prior profession when I only had a twelve hour day. That's just not right. And I'm not talking your double shift weekends, either. I'm talking six days a week. Stop thinking you're so special with the terrible working conditions, you're not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41566100 United States 05/03/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don't doctors speak up about these issue? You never hear anything in the press. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56844832 Because it is considered "unprofessional". There is also HIPPA privacy laws that prevent them from talking. I remember a patient when I was a medical student. Elderly. Unresponsive (vegetative state). He had diabetes and had been in the hospital for months. First they amputated both feet, then legs to the knees, then above the knees, then to the hips. Our team was standing there discussing the fact that the very resistant infection had still spread to the pelvis and that the patient's family was insisting on them doing additional surgery to keep him alive at all costs - essentially would require removal of the pelvic bones. The family was threatening law suits. The poor patient was being used by his family as they were getting his retirement benefits and other benefit checks for his hard work through his life. But they had power of attorney and could call the shots. Now days, hopefully an ethics board would prevent this, but who knows.......it wasn't that long ago. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57670328 United States 05/03/2014 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's our culture that is the biggest hot mess, Creating mini ones in its wake. 75%+ of Americans should euthanized. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55442059 what awesome quality do you have that exempts you from the 75%? i suppose you really think that you are so awesome that you deserve to be in the elite 25%. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57504058 United States 05/03/2014 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of jobs have the same thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 BUT NO job has the element of life and death as many nursing jobs do... You miss something as a nurse and it could mean death for the patient. Take a very unstable patient in the ICU The nurse must know her stuff; as in be smart and know what to look for if the patient begins to '''circle the drain'''' NO job other than nursing has life and death Nurses are the watchers of the critical care units and so forth... Without a competent, good nurse there willing to make sure you survive your stay in the ICU They will be putting 6 inches of dirt over you The real take away point here is that eventually everyone dies, no matter how well they are attended to. Its the lawyers generating the assumption that if everyone does the right thing, death will be defeated, and that, friends, is not the reality to be dealt with. Eventually every one of you will die, and there is nobody that can intervene, and its not anyones fault. Every half baked, ungreatful and arrogant, blame assigning bullshit arguement intended to hang the medical people with blame they have to 'make compensation' for, is based on the lie of everlasting life if the medical people do the right things. Deal with it, you get unlucky and you die early, and if you get lucky you die later, NOBODY WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE FOREVER, get the fuck over it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/03/2014 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't try to make people who are not nurses understand. Experience is the only way to truly understand what a nurse's job is like these days. It didn't used to be like this. Nursing was rewarding some days, others, not so much, but at least there were the rewarding days to keep one going back to work with a smile and some love to give. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42421044 I understand you, and everything you said is true, but that's because I am a nurse. Best wishes to you in the frustrations to come! And don't forget that even if it is 1 in 1,000 patients...and/or family members...someone will appreciate what you have done for them. A smile can do so much for someone else too! One thing the non nurses here haven't considered, is that once you have an education in nursing and have spent your money and time getting it, you are not about to change your career! One has to actually make money to pay the bills! It is not your fault that you had no idea what the job truly entails! College does not give one a true experience of actually being a nurse! 90% of what you were forced to learn is useless! Hands-on is reality! Yes Only those who have been in the trenchens know what it is all about. I, however, did change my life. I got out of direct care and got an IT degree and now work in IT world. I was a nurse for a long time and got burned out. I took care of too many patients at one time ; as the hospital administration kept downsizing those in the key trench positions; the job become more and more dangerous for both the patient and the lisense. What you nurses don't seem to understand is that you aren't the only profession with these problems. Everything that's not desk work is getting pushed just as hard, and even the desk jockeys rarely get a strict 40hr week anymore. I thought I had a light day in my prior profession when I only had a twelve hour day. That's just not right. And I'm not talking your double shift weekends, either. I'm talking six days a week. Stop thinking you're so special with the terrible working conditions, you're not. I have worked enough varied careers to choke a moose. What you have here is a well rounded person I have worked in a cubie , using a shovel , as a nurse, in a law office...the list is long I understand. I know there is burnout all over the place. This thread is about hospitals tho |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57504058 United States 05/03/2014 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is described in the OP is exactly what Big Pharma wants. And actually the people the OP describes are insuring his/her job. Thing is, though, that the patients wouldn't be on so many drugs if the doctors weren't pushing the drugs on them. So why blame the patient? Blame the doctors. They are the ones to push the drugs for Big Pharma. OP is blaming the victims and not the criminals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38067828 I only go to doctors when I need confirmation of what is wrong. And the doctors I go to are only the doctors that allow me to try more natural treatments, once the ailment is identified, first rather than what Big Pharma has to offer. So far so good for me. There aren't too many doctors like that left because most are trained (along with nurses) by Big Pharma but there are some. But in the case of accidents and other emergencies requiring surgeries I admit I am glad the hospitals and the doctors & nurses in them are there. But for disease/illness I avoid hospitals like the plaque. It seems many people come out much worse than when they went in. They do come out worse than they went in because of the poor nurse patient ratios. They get malnutrition because their nurse doesn't have time to feed them because she is constantly dealing with multiple simultaneously emergencies and orders getting thrown at her. The get infected stage 4 pressure ulcers because they are not helped out of bed when their nurse cannot take the time to do it because she is overwhelmed with everything else going on. Drug errors happen. We had a patient die because the family member of another patient was harassing his nurse while she was hanging a fentanyl drip. The drip got fucked up and infused to fast. Not only are the RNs working short but too many patients and families see them as hospital waitresses who are there to provide service rather than seeing them as overwhelmed care providers who have too many life and death problems to deal with at once. The guy who was harassing the nurse hanging the fentanyl drip followed her into another patient's room to harass her because his dad wasn't happy with his meal tray. He distracted the nurse and caused a death. Selfish fucker. Complain to the kitchen dumbass! Nurses have no control over the damn food trays. All that you describe is the result of our SICKO culture. The adminstration of all hospitals just want $$$$$$ greed has taken over all of this culture to a far and beyond pathelogical state but no one is healthy enough mentally EITHER to care about it and try to change it What they do is take the nurses license if he or she cant take care of ALL those patients and find more nurses Our culture is sick ; and filled with pschos who only care about $$$$$$$ This is a symptoms of FALL OF EMPIRE it is eroding from within and falling Obviously the real answer is to force the highly trained people that fill the hospitals 24/7/365 to work for free, that way when you stumble off a cliff while drunk and high off your ass, people who have trained for 10 years can suck your drunk ass dick until you can win the Tour de France and do it for free. Fuck you lot, none of you give anything you do for free, and most of you didnt invest 6 months of any real discipline to do what you do. I guess youre just to precious, and there are drugs to be taken and youtube videos of you drunk off your ass shoving fireworks up your ass to be posted, after all, its your right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/03/2014 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of jobs have the same thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 BUT NO job has the element of life and death as many nursing jobs do... You miss something as a nurse and it could mean death for the patient. Take a very unstable patient in the ICU The nurse must know her stuff; as in be smart and know what to look for if the patient begins to '''circle the drain'''' NO job other than nursing has life and death Nurses are the watchers of the critical care units and so forth... Without a competent, good nurse there willing to make sure you survive your stay in the ICU They will be putting 6 inches of dirt over you The real take away point here is that eventually everyone dies, no matter how well they are attended to. Its the lawyers generating the assumption that if everyone does the right thing, death will be defeated, and that, friends, is not the reality to be dealt with. Eventually every one of you will die, and there is nobody that can intervene, and its not anyones fault. Every half baked, ungreatful and arrogant, blame assigning bullshit arguement intended to hang the medical people with blame they have to 'make compensation' for, is based on the lie of everlasting life if the medical people do the right things. Deal with it, you get unlucky and you die early, and if you get lucky you die later, NOBODY WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE FOREVER, get the fuck over it. Very true. You are correct. The problem is; you don't want to be the one on the end of the lawyer stick. It can be very nasty especially when the words like '''incompetence''', '''neglect''', '''patient abandonment''' start to be used. If you could make all lawyers realize that everyone dies and there is no real problems; you will be the hero. THey take professional license tho and the person's way of making a living is dead in the water. The front line nurses and docs get the license taken if they can't get there quick enough and no one cares The administration is going to keep all their expensive cars and homes no one looks to them master /slave mentality |