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When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?

 
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When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
Come on Texas, let's get this party started.
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05/04/2014 06:08 PM
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
From Justice Antonin Scalia:





"I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, "one Nation, indivisible.") Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.
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05/04/2014 06:21 PM
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
Come on Texas, let's get this party started.
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Texas is overrun with Rino's and liberals, who control enough votes to prevent this.
So first they would have to clean out their House,(and Senate).
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
From Justice Antonin Scalia:





"I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, "one Nation, indivisible.") Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.
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nazgul

rofl

I may be mistaken but the Texas constitution reserves the right to secede.

As does all or most of the original 13 states.
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05/04/2014 06:47 PM
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
From Justice Antonin Scalia:





"I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, "one Nation, indivisible.") Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.
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nazgul

rofl

I may be mistaken but the Texas constitution reserves the right to secede.

As does all or most of the original 13 states.
 Quoting: s. d. butler

Any state can leave at any time, to believe otherwise is to believe lies. The Union of States is like a marriage, Divorce is always a possibility.
The State or States just have to be willing to back it up with sufficient force to enforce it. Something that the Confederacy was not able to achieve.
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05/04/2014 07:04 PM
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
Not unless Texas allowed Russian or Chinese troops in to defend their new countries borders. They could not withstand the power of the American military.
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05/04/2014 07:09 PM
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Not unless Texas allowed Russian or Chinese troops in to defend their new countries borders. They could not withstand the power of the American military.
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Except there would be a mutiny from a lot of troops.
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
the same reason that took place in texas independence. they had to wait for all the other men from other states to show up and save them. like the volunteer states. now the only people showing up from out of state are many Californians. its as if all the people who love the government showed up, and the word FED is said with muttered reference by them, or at least in their minds.
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05/04/2014 07:11 PM
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
I think Quebec has a better chance at Independence than Texas.
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05/04/2014 09:12 PM
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Re: When does Texas man up and have it's own referendum to secede?
From Justice Antonin Scalia:





"I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, "one Nation, indivisible.") Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.
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nazgul

rofl

I may be mistaken but the Texas constitution reserves the right to secede.

As does all or most of the original 13 states.
 Quoting: s. d. butler

Any state can leave at any time, to believe otherwise is to believe lies. The Union of States is like a marriage, Divorce is always a possibility.
The State or States just have to be willing to back it up with sufficient force to enforce it. Something that the Confederacy was not able to achieve.
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Absolutely. I was cut off before I could finish the post.

The war of northern aggression didn't settle anything. Force in this context has no legal or moral basis.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 05/04/2014 09:14 PM

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