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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57739977 United States 05/05/2014 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Over simplification. He is an enemy to the persona of Obama yes. But in no way is he a friend to Americans. Supporting him is still supporting an enemy of Americans because he in no way would uphold our personal freedoms either. In fact he would take them away with force like he has already done to those in Russia while making himself a billionaire many times over with your money while the countries infrastructure and quality of living goes to shit. Again like he did to Russians. He is still the enemy. Just a different enemy. He just also happens to also be the enemy of one of our enemies. That does not automatically make him our friend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44875935 United States 05/05/2014 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Over simplification. He is an enemy to the persona of Obama yes. But in no way is he a friend to Americans. Supporting him is still supporting an enemy of Americans because he in no way would uphold our personal freedoms either. In fact he would take them away with force like he has already done to those in Russia while making himself a billionaire many times over with your money while the countries infrastructure and quality of living goes to shit. Again like he did to Russians. He is still the enemy. Just a different enemy. He just also happens to also be the enemy of one of our enemies. That does not automatically make him our friend. As the Chinese say ? The enemy of my enemy is my friend |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57259359 United States 05/05/2014 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Guardian moderators, who deal with 40,000 comments a day, believe there is an orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign... Quoting: < DL > [link to www.theguardian.com] Many other sites are experiencing the same thing as well as GLP. Now don't come in here bitching at me thinking I'm accusing you of being a troll if you're pro-Russian. That being said, I believe there has been a drastic amount of pro-Russians that have come to this site over the past few months... I think it's normal posters expressing their views honestly, it is of my opinion that most people given the opportunity would express pro russian views. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57739977 United States 05/05/2014 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Over simplification. He is an enemy to the persona of Obama yes. But in no way is he a friend to Americans. Supporting him is still supporting an enemy of Americans because he in no way would uphold our personal freedoms either. In fact he would take them away with force like he has already done to those in Russia while making himself a billionaire many times over with your money while the countries infrastructure and quality of living goes to shit. Again like he did to Russians. He is still the enemy. Just a different enemy. He just also happens to also be the enemy of one of our enemies. That does not automatically make him our friend. As the Chinese say ? The enemy of my enemy is my friend Over simplification. That saying does not apply if the enemy is a clear and present danger to you as well. If you dont see why that is, me explaining it is not going to clear it up for you. You are misapplying that philosophy though. |
Gator! User ID: 28256048 United States 05/05/2014 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... You mean all the Putin worshiping retards who just love that he is such a manly man but totally ignore his very KGB-esque take on his citizens rights, his love for destabilizing and invading his neighbors and total bungling of that nations economy which is seriously on the verge of collapse? Don't know what your talking about..... I can understand the sentiment somewhat because our president is a flaming fag, but I can't help but wonder if some of the people who slobber all over Putin would love Obama to death if he was an evil strongman that liked to go fishing with his shirt off. Last Edited by Gator! on 05/05/2014 07:29 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57739977 United States 05/05/2014 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Goodjob OP! This thread has turned into a perfect example of what you were speculating about. They all just walked right in and ignored all the logical arguments that are paint Putin in his correct light as just another corrupt politician. Instead they are making emotional please using buzz words like Christian (which he obviously isn't. Fellow Christians should be ashamed for even entertaining that idea.) All white, anti gay. Trying to appeal to rightwingers to manipulate their support out of them while not actually giving a damn about any of those issues. You should send this thread to the guardian. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57634456 United States 05/05/2014 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... I'm not a Pro Russian paid shill or a Putin fan boy, but I'm not stupid either. After the Victoria Nuland phone tape was released, it's pretty easy to see that the US staged a coup right at the doorstep of Russia in a country that Russia is economically and strategically reliant on. I think Putin has actually shown restraint in this whole thing. What would we do if it was reversed and Russia had somehow assisted in a coup to put neonazis in power in Canada? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57722582 The same thing we did when China did a soft coup north of us so now that country is fondly refered to as Chinada? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56148605 United States 05/05/2014 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... So if I do not believe all the horse shit fed to me by the psychopath politicians and their owned media, if I don't buy into their lies and treachery, if I believe that Russia may actually be standing on the right(er) side of things if just this one time......then I must be a fucking Kremlin troll? no just easily misled |
Gator! User ID: 28256048 United States 05/05/2014 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... There is a definite kremilin internet spin campaign going on. it's amazingly obvious and it really shows how the Russians have failed to move on from the state of compulsive lying that was the ussr. The problem is the speculative nature of these types of troll investigations. What are the odds if moderators act on these types of things it will simply turn in to a squelching of an entire point of view? I would say it's very likely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10209760 Israel 05/05/2014 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Oh, no. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57732694 They might actually convince the people of Europe that their Israeli/Saudi/Turk occupied governments have totally subverted their way of life, deplete their nation's blood and treasure to secure territory for Greater Israel and mineral monopolies for the House of Saud, and are hell bent on racially replacing them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694044 New Zealand 05/05/2014 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... I've been here for 5 years and I've seen the Putin love, BUT NEVER ON THIS SCALE. Is it bad of me to point that out? Do you think there have been more or less pro-Russian posters on GLP over the last few months? I have been coming to this site since the 90s and from a variety of countries. Nothing has changed at all except for the mainstreaming of american hate. Even americans hate america now. Obama is the flashpoint it seems Putin is just a beneficiary of the hate for obama the enemy of my enemy is my friend |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694044 New Zealand 05/05/2014 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... I've been here for 5 years and I've seen the Putin love, BUT NEVER ON THIS SCALE. Is it bad of me to point that out? Do you think there have been more or less pro-Russian posters on GLP over the last few months? WAY MORE BEYOND WAY MORE, The uptick in a percentage value is insane its almost 1000% increase in Pro Russian Users across all sights! Thats what ive been reading The reason is that the Russians have taken advantage of the lies of the US The US mainstream media is just corporate state run propaganda and the Americans are sick of it Russia has been flogging Russia Today for years as a good alternative media source What did you expect? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57724543 United States 05/05/2014 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... More from the article: Quoting: < DL > Trolling covers a multitude of sins but a particularly nasty strain has emerged in the midst of the armed conflict in Ukraine, which infests comment threads on the Guardian and elsewhere, despite the best efforts of moderators. Readers and reporters alike are concerned that these are from those paid to troll, and to denigrate in abusive terms anyone criticising Russia or President Vladimir Putin. On 23 April the writer complained again: "One need only pick a Ukraine article at random, pick any point in the comments at random, and they will find themselves in a sea of incredibly aggressive and hostile users (the most obvious have accounts created since February 2014 … but there also exist those who registered with the Guardian before the high point of the crisis) who post the most biased, inciteful [sic] pro-Kremlin, anti-western propaganda that seems as if it's taken from a template, so repetitive are the statements. Furthermore, these comments are consistently capturing inordinate numbers of 'recommends', sometimes on the order of 10 to 12 times what pro-Ukrainian comments receive." On 7 February 2012 the Guardian reported: "A pro-Kremlin group runs a network of internet trolls, seeks to buy flattering coverage of Vladimir Putin and hatches plans to discredit opposition activists and media, according to private emails allegedly hacked by a group calling itself the Russian arm of Anonymous. Just like the Chinese YouTube commenters who all created accounts several days before the "spontaneous riot of Tibetans." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57673097 United Kingdom 05/05/2014 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... I'm not a Pro Russian paid shill or a Putin fan boy, but I'm not stupid either. After the Victoria Nuland phone tape was released, it's pretty easy to see that the US staged a coup right at the doorstep of Russia in a country that Russia is economically and strategically reliant on. I think Putin has actually shown restraint in this whole thing. What would we do if it was reversed and Russia had somehow assisted in a coup to put neonazis in power in Canada? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57722582 cant argue with that |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57443085 Lithuania 05/05/2014 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Guardian moderators, who deal with 40,000 comments a day, believe there is an orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign... Quoting: < DL > [link to www.theguardian.com] Many other sites are experiencing the same thing as well as GLP. Now don't come in here bitching at me thinking I'm accusing you of being a troll if you're pro-Russian. That being said, I believe there has been a drastic amount of pro-Russians that have come to this site over the past few months... Is it possible that alot of people are PRO-RUSSIAN? I SEE MORE MISINFORMATION COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE! And the Russians don't run the world so it's not possible to hate them more than the joos!!! Maybe there's an UP-TICK OF FASCISTS! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57724543 United States 05/05/2014 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... There is a definite kremilin internet spin campaign going on. it's amazingly obvious and it really shows how the Russians have failed to move on from the state of compulsive lying that was the ussr. The problem is the speculative nature of these types of troll investigations. What are the odds if moderators act on these types of things it will simply turn in to a squelching of an entire point of view? I would say it's very likely. It's not really that hard to tell the difference. They fall into the same basic categories (and are likely following the same general strategy) as the Chinese trolls. You have your "screamers" posing as "angry young Chinese/Russians, with poorer English, trying to appear genuine. Then you have your "I'm just am American from Kansas who believes Putin is right on this one" types...but they always go overboard with the slang dictionary and end up generating hilarious linguistic train wrecks. The there are the few, well-Englished "stern moderates" who go on paragraph after scholarly paragraph about the inherent badness of America and goodness of Russia. |
SeanoftheDead User ID: 48674479 Canada 05/05/2014 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Yes it is obvious to some of us. Apparently to you as well OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57735342 One of the problems is that people are hypocrites. They say they hate propaganda. What they really hate is propaganda that supports something they dont like, for example Obama/democratic party. They actually love the anti Obama propaganda. They are simple minded and think pro Putin is the same thing as anti Obama. ( Giant over simplification.) Putin is as crooked as Obama and more ruthless than Obama has ever been or will ever be. These are just easily verifiable facts if people would look them up. He has fixed elections in an even more shocking way than Obama did and will do so for life, unlike Obama. He's obviously no friend of the common man. The synchronized patterns of behavior a lot of these pro russian posters have is what gave it away that it is shilling and not real opinions. They are simply trying to create a polarized position trap for the people to fall into. Pro US/West invasion or Pro Russian invasion. As if it's not obvious that both those choices are equally despicable. The really interesting part is has how they have kept Putins easily found corrupt behavior, and well known and despised by his own people, out of the spotlight. The easily lead are doing most the work for them having no idea what kind of person they are actually supporting and to stupid or lazy to take the time to look. He is already twice the dictator Obama will ever be and is already on his third term that he obviously plans on rigging for life. Lets not let facts get in the way of our hate for our own crooked president though. Not that it matters, you support either one of these clowns you are supporting the same kind of corruption. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57166616 Germany 05/05/2014 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Guardian moderators, who deal with 40,000 comments a day, believe there is an orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign... Quoting: < DL > [link to www.theguardian.com] Many other sites are experiencing the same thing as well as GLP. Now don't come in here bitching at me thinking I'm accusing you of being a troll if you're pro-Russian. That being said, I believe there has been a drastic amount of pro-Russians that have come to this site over the past few months... Is it possible that alot of people are PRO-RUSSIAN? I SEE MORE MISINFORMATION COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE! And the Russians don't run the world so it's not possible to hate them more than the joos!!! Maybe there's an UP-TICK OF FASCISTS! Are you 12? Are you aware the meaning behind the words you speak? I am amazed that you would dare insinuate that there are suddenly Putin lovers everywhere as opposed to a year ago when they were few and far between as if such an event is not only a feasible explanation, but devoid of basis to back it up. Do tell why you all suddenly showed up at the same time declaring unwavering support of Putin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 05/05/2014 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Guardian moderators, who deal with 40,000 comments a day, believe there is an orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign... Quoting: < DL > [link to www.theguardian.com] Many other sites are experiencing the same thing as well as GLP. Now don't come in here bitching at me thinking I'm accusing you of being a troll if you're pro-Russian. That being said, I believe there has been a drastic amount of pro-Russians that have come to this site over the past few months... Is it possible that alot of people are PRO-RUSSIAN? I SEE MORE MISINFORMATION COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE! And the Russians don't run the world so it's not possible to hate them more than the joos!!! Maybe there's an UP-TICK OF FASCISTS! Should that not be "capitalist running dog fascists" comrade? how's the potato harvest going? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56946116 France 05/05/2014 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 'The Guardian' monitors have found an orchestrated campaign of pro-Russian trolls infesting comment threads... Guardian moderators, who deal with 40,000 comments a day, believe there is an orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign... Quoting: < DL > [link to www.theguardian.com] Many other sites are experiencing the same thing as well as GLP. Now don't come in here bitching at me thinking I'm accusing you of being a troll if you're pro-Russian. That being said, I believe there has been a drastic amount of pro-Russians that have come to this site over the past few months... Since when is anti-NAZI-anti-SOROS = to Pro-Russian? Fuck you. |