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Do you know of any Church today that is following scripture????

 
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And this person is supposedly reliable?
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it merely summarizes the enormous piles of data that i provided just prior to posting the video
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This may sound like an excuse but how is someone suppose to disciple 12 people in modern times, most people all ready have heard about Jesus and are not receptive to any preaching and reject his word, then if are going to a church, do you leave the church and start a new church?
It becomes very complicated when you need to have a meeting place. Especially when you don't have a meeting place large enough to house 12 people comfortably.
It was much easier to do 2000 years ago because you didn't have all of the influence and distractions from the media, and more people lived and worked outside of buildings and structures than they do today.
And the only kind of churches that seem prosperous now are the big mega churches with their prosperity preaching and strict tithing rules.
Discipleship is very difficult to do in these modern times.
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As a Catholic, the debating all of you Protestants do about interpretation, seems like a waste of a spiritual life, its like what I did at the beginning of my Christian life, and I mean that with respect, there is nothing wrong with it.
I understand your need for it, and hope it brings you the joy and growth I get from my church.

We are all still on the road, on our way to the full truth.
That the truth does exist, and is discoverable, I firmly believe, otherwise, the Lord has set us on a perpetual chase without real meaning.
One day, we will know the truth in its entirety, for now we have precious parts of it.
Such as our imperative to love one another.

hf
 Quoting: K.Kool


KK,

I am Christian not Catholic, but, I listen to Catholic radio everyday...(I'm non-denominational)...but got Catholic judgmental looking down the nose around me every frickin' day.

Talk about debate on interpetation on that radio station!

We're all on the same side here...Lucille...

Father God, Jesus Christ Yeshua Messiah Our Lord, Holy Spirit, and the children of God.

Meat is what I'm interested in when it comes to the study of God's Word of Instruction...not some panny waste bullshit that take eleven pages of a beautiful day then for me to say bullshit I'm gonin' home and listening to Weird Al Yankovich.

God wants our recognition of our love for Him and His Son, Yeshuah.

God wants us to try and work on His desires for us...i.e., ten commandments.

God gave us the two churches that were teaching truth...
Smyrna and Philadelphia, Book of Revelation...all others are a bubble off.

Satan's four hidden dynasties:

Economics
Politics
Education
AND his favorite...Religion.

Denomination means division...

Hummm, "so, what church do you go to?"..."so, what denomination do you belong to?"...

Division amongst God's children...what better way to cause discord amongst the ranks of God's army.

Peace y'all.
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"God gave us the two churches that were teaching truth...
Smyrna and Philadelphia, Book of Revelation...all others are a bubble off."


A bubble-off?

As a infamous Aussie politician once said, please explain?

You're discounting some pretty important times, in our continued, and continual relationship with God, the Creator of the Universe.
 Quoting: K.Kool



No I'm not.

The Book of Revelation teaches us the two correct churches to follow and learn from...

It ain't me who says it...Father God, Jesus, Holy Spirit says it.

Read, do word by word study on the seven churches.

Ya got a "Strong's Concordance"?
It's online.

Smyrna and Philadelphia are THE only two churches who were SPOT ON with what Jesus wanted, with HIS teachings, the rest were not, they ventured off a tad from the truth, a bubble off, misleading, deceiving, Lucifer's tactics...that's what satan does...trys to get God's children off base, off the straight and narrow path that leads to eternal life. :)
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Strong's Concordance is merely a form of indexing, not a depository on the truth.

"A Bible concordance is a verbal index to the Bible. A simple form lists Biblical words alphabetically, with indications to enable the inquirer to find the passages of the Bible where the words occur."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


The actual words, spread throughout the Bible, will not give you a complete understanding, like a whole chapter will.
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This may sound like an excuse but how is someone suppose to disciple 12 people in modern times, most people all ready have heard about Jesus and are not receptive to any preaching and reject his word, then if are going to a church, do you leave the church and start a new church?
It becomes very complicated when you need to have a meeting place. Especially when you don't have a meeting place large enough to house 12 people comfortably.
It was much easier to do 2000 years ago because you didn't have all of the influence and distractions from the media, and more people lived and worked outside of buildings and structures than they do today.
And the only kind of churches that seem prosperous now are the big mega churches with their prosperity preaching and strict tithing rules.
Discipleship is very difficult to do in these modern times.
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You are so very right. I've never been comfortable with more than two or three at a time. I call the process "companioning."
We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely.
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The situation poses a conundrum for me. I know of no religious sect that does not inevitably become focused on tradition.

I wish I could find a group of people who like to share their faith with each other, without the political power struggles and holier than thou, judgmental attitudes.

I stopped looking.

Usually when I give up on something, the answer plops itself in front of me eventually. So far, that still hasn't happened. I've been tricked into thinking I found people who share my sentiment. Then the reality that this one is no different than the last sets in and I am depressed again.

It wouldn't bother me except that when people become attached to their traditions they get testy when someone does not fall in line and support their "way".
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That's true. That's why I couldn't go to the Church of Christ. They only sing accapello and they forced you to sing every verse of every hymn, none of which I knew. It upset me. I was not a happy camper by the end of church. The Baptists in town have a weird guy teaching the youth group. I need to go to the Christian Church, but the preacher there is very sexist so they say and that upsets me. I get freaked out pretty easy by other people. Plus, if I tell them that I can hear God talk to me, they don't like that and they don't want me around, so I have to be careful not to tell them too much.
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Different "churches" or "communities" disagree on a given doctrine - let's say grace or baptism. Multiply that by thousands of "churches" or "communities". Who decides who is right? Keep in mind that there is an absolute Truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178295


Now we're getting somewhere.

So maybe the answer is that God is far less concerned with our Doctrine as He is with our being responsive to Him.
 Quoting: Life and Love



If God wasn't too concerned with doctrine then He would not have revealed it - which He clearly has. Example: Trinity


Have a nice weekend.
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God is not a person… You must REVEAL GOD WITHIN YOU. No person named God revealed doctrine. Doctrine is following.. so again I will post this, as in this or another thread somebody said Jesus would reveal the real Protestant church when he returns out of all the protestant churches…

Gods own are those that know god within them by their own discovery and it doesn't make any different if you use God within you, Christ within you.. Allah with in you


This is what Jesus taught, now would somebody here actually READ and PONDER THIS, for those who know the below are those who have chosen themselves.


“ You have come out from among those of your fellows who choose to remain satisfied with a religion of mind, who crave security and prefer conformity. You have elected to exchange your feelings of authoritative certainty for the assurances of the spirit of adventure and progressive faith. You have dared to protest against the gruelling bondage of institutional religion and to reject the authorities of the traditions of record which are now regarded as the word of God. (…)

I have called upon you to be born again, to be born of the spirit. I have called you out of the darkness of authority and the lethargy of tradition into the transcendent light of the realisation of the possibility of making for yourselves the greatest discovery possible for the human soul to make – the supernal experience of finding God for yourself, in yourself, and of yourself, and of doing all this as a fact in your own personal experience”.


Please read and think about the above….. No church can discover God FOR YOU…. only you CAN.
 Quoting: Abinadi


I hear you brother. I read this and I get it. I agree. Don't need any religion.
I am free.
God Bless you all in your journey.
hf
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Since I was young always felt Church had it all wrong, we do
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Church of Christ....
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KK,

I am Christian not Catholic, but, I listen to Catholic radio everyday...(I'm non-denominational)...but got Catholic judgmental looking down the nose around me every frickin' day.

Talk about debate on interpetation on that radio station!

We're all on the same side here...Lucille...

Father God, Jesus Christ Yeshua Messiah Our Lord, Holy Spirit, and the children of God.

Meat is what I'm interested in when it comes to the study of God's Word of Instruction...not some panny waste bullshit that take eleven pages of a beautiful day then for me to say bullshit I'm gonin' home and listening to Weird Al Yankovich.

God wants our recognition of our love for Him and His Son, Yeshuah.

God wants us to try and work on His desires for us...i.e., ten commandments.

God gave us the two churches that were teaching truth...
Smyrna and Philadelphia, Book of Revelation...all others are a bubble off.

Satan's four hidden dynasties:

Economics
Politics
Education
AND his favorite...Religion.

Denomination means division...

Hummm, "so, what church do you go to?"..."so, what denomination do you belong to?"...

Division amongst God's children...what better way to cause discord amongst the ranks of God's army.

Peace y'all.
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"God gave us the two churches that were teaching truth...
Smyrna and Philadelphia, Book of Revelation...all others are a bubble off."


A bubble-off?

As a infamous Aussie politician once said, please explain?

You're discounting some pretty important times, in our continued, and continual relationship with God, the Creator of the Universe.
 Quoting: K.Kool



No I'm not.

The Book of Revelation teaches us the two correct churches to follow and learn from...

It ain't me who says it...Father God, Jesus, Holy Spirit says it.

Read, do word by word study on the seven churches.

Ya got a "Strong's Concordance"?
It's online.

Smyrna and Philadelphia are THE only two churches who were SPOT ON with what Jesus wanted, with HIS teachings, the rest were not, they ventured off a tad from the truth, a bubble off, misleading, deceiving, Lucifer's tactics...that's what satan does...trys to get God's children off base, off the straight and narrow path that leads to eternal life. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1475202



Strong's Concordance is merely a form of indexing, not a depository on the truth.

"A Bible concordance is a verbal index to the Bible. A simple form lists Biblical words alphabetically, with indications to enable the inquirer to find the passages of the Bible where the words occur."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


The actual words, spread throughout the Bible, will not give you a complete understanding, like a whole chapter will.
 Quoting: K.Kool




Excuse, please.

The Concordance takes every word back to its primitive root, so Wikipedia is untrue in its explanation.

Okay, KK,

Do you study entomology, translation/transliteration, primitive root of words?

That is where one can really connect with what Father God is saying in His Word of Instruction...The Bible.

I'm sure you know "Bethlehem" is Hebrew, and its English meaning...

Beth-El-Hem=House Of Bread.

Who is THE House Of Bread/Bread Of Life?

Yesuah Jesus Messiah Our Lord.

Word study gets one into the meat of God's Word. :)
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The RCC had the right books in 325AD as that is the same books used in the 1611KJV and according to that preface the RCC weren't all that happy about that which is a bit strange because that is whet they based the Latin Bible on and that is the version that changed their teaching where the center of the Church (Vatican) became more important than the flock. The fall they experienced would have not been much different than the fall of the Jews when Neb came and took them into exile. They had Prophets and the Church has the written word since the beginning but lacking leadership directly from God or Christ failure is a sure thing because it is less than perfect.

The NT Church is based on a Gentile's relationship with God that (most closely) matches one of the relationships in the 7 letters to the 7 Churches. The leadership of the RCC would seem to fit the relationship where they left their first love which is basically breaking the 1st Law that applies to Christians.

The confusion could be cleared up by going back to the 1611KJV and using those verses it is easy to show the 70 weeks of Daniel was fulfilled as one block of time and that the iron/clay of Daniel has yet to start and when it does there is 1260 days until the return.

Knowing that everybody (and I mean all flesh) is alive in the New Earth is not spoiling the ending but it is something to keep in mind as the various prophetic passages are explored using the concept that God did leave something that was a guide (for a lot of things) that described how those last few years would actually unfold. One of the few cases where the truth is stranger than fiction.
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I, however, try to avoid the problems such an approach generates. But, I, too, have my own "interpretive community."
 Quoting: Life and Love


The problem here is this... How do thousands of "interpretive communities" decide who is right or wrong? Logic would say that there needs to be a sole "judge" who can define with infallible authority. Otherwise, Truth becomes distorted. Your thoughts?
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James 1:5. If any of you lack wisdom , ask God.
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To be honest, I haven't been in a while. I watched a message on line where a family member attends up in N. Florida.

This is interesting though. Recently, I was painting the living room and listening to the audio bible on line - Biblewatch I think it is.

Was listening to Acts and you know, how you hear something new each time? I plainly heard it in Acts that preachers are not to do that for money. Aaaaaaaaaaack.

I 'grew up' you might say in a 12 step program, and the woman who introduced me to Jesus told me lots of good stuff that I have never forgotten. She told me this: when we help someone, we do not get paid. The topic was not preachers really but I think just more in general terms she was speaking.

Anyway, I thought it was a revelation anyway.

To answer your title question, I would say: some do, some don't, some twist it, some don't. I believe that the Holy Spirit reveals the message in the Word to different people with a varied interpretation. That is what I am wary of - what the perception of the scripture is.

So I would say that one should know the Bible to be able to follow along and know if someone is following the scripture or not.
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It would appear that you are missing my point entirely.

Which is this: any text cannot be authoritative without an interpretive community of some sort. The interpretive community isn't necessarily a church per se. And the text doesn't have to be scripture. A good example is the U.S. Constitution. It lacks authority without interpretation.

I'm not looking for agreement or support. However, if you don't agree, it would be helpful for you to provide an example of a statement of authority without one.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Different "churches" or "communities" disagree on a given doctrine - let's say grace or baptism. Multiply that by thousands of "churches" or "communities". Who decides who is right? Keep in mind that there is an absolute Truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178295


Now we're getting somewhere.

So maybe the answer is that God is far less concerned with our Doctrine as He is with our being responsive to Him.
 Quoting: Life and Love



If God wasn't too concerned with doctrine then He would not have revealed it - which He clearly has. Example: Trinity


Have a nice weekend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178295


The problem with the doctrine of the Trinity is that God did not reveal it. It was invented by a bunch of men in the third and fourth centuries A.D.
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To be honest, I haven't been in a while. I watched a message on line where a family member attends up in N. Florida.

This is interesting though. Recently, I was painting the living room and listening to the audio bible on line - Biblewatch I think it is.

Was listening to Acts and you know, how you hear something new each time? I plainly heard it in Acts that preachers are not to do that for money. Aaaaaaaaaaack.

I 'grew up' you might say in a 12 step program, and the woman who introduced me to Jesus told me lots of good stuff that I have never forgotten. She told me this: when we help someone, we do not get paid. The topic was not preachers really but I think just more in general terms she was speaking.

Anyway, I thought it was a revelation anyway.

To answer your title question, I would say: some do, some don't, some twist it, some don't. I believe that the Holy Spirit reveals the message in the Word to different people with a varied interpretation. That is what I am wary of - what the perception of the scripture is.

So I would say that one should know the Bible to be able to follow along and know if someone is following the scripture or not.
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Interesting to me because the first century church , which is a role model to me , met in homes and did not have big financial overheads and salaries and bulletins . They met , sang hymns , prayed , and broke bread together .
Pretty simple .
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"God gave us the two churches that were teaching truth...
Smyrna and Philadelphia, Book of Revelation...all others are a bubble off."


A bubble-off?

As a infamous Aussie politician once said, please explain?

You're discounting some pretty important times, in our continued, and continual relationship with God, the Creator of the Universe.
 Quoting: K.Kool



No I'm not.

The Book of Revelation teaches us the two correct churches to follow and learn from...

It ain't me who says it...Father God, Jesus, Holy Spirit says it.

Read, do word by word study on the seven churches.

Ya got a "Strong's Concordance"?
It's online.

Smyrna and Philadelphia are THE only two churches who were SPOT ON with what Jesus wanted, with HIS teachings, the rest were not, they ventured off a tad from the truth, a bubble off, misleading, deceiving, Lucifer's tactics...that's what satan does...trys to get God's children off base, off the straight and narrow path that leads to eternal life. :)
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Strong's Concordance is merely a form of indexing, not a depository on the truth.

"A Bible concordance is a verbal index to the Bible. A simple form lists Biblical words alphabetically, with indications to enable the inquirer to find the passages of the Bible where the words occur."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


The actual words, spread throughout the Bible, will not give you a complete understanding, like a whole chapter will.
 Quoting: K.Kool




Excuse, please.

The Concordance takes every word back to its primitive root, so Wikipedia is untrue in its explanation.

Okay, KK,

Do you study entomology, translation/transliteration, primitive root of words?

That is where one can really connect with what Father God is saying in His Word of Instruction...The Bible.

I'm sure you know "Bethlehem" is Hebrew, and its English meaning...

Beth-El-Hem=House Of Bread.

Who is THE House Of Bread/Bread Of Life?

Yesuah Jesus Messiah Our Lord.

Word study gets one into the meat of God's Word. :)
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If you love it, do it all you want, I'm sure you learn a lot.

I just hope you read whole chapters too, because that is how we can understand what actually happened in those times, and what God wants to tell us.
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Well, I would say that eleven pages of posts give substance to my original thought that textual authority requires an interpretative community, whether a church denomination or an internet preacher.

Lots to choose from. Choose wisely.
 Quoting: Life and Love



Indeed.

I chose, based on doctrine, and my belief that Jesus, if he loved us enough to, to suffer a death as he did, would just leave us alone without a means to be present on earth, in material form, so we can be One Body for Him.
Exist in a mystical sense, as Jesus, present on the planet Earth.
I feel and comprehend His presence, in receiving the Eucharist, in a totally more intimate sense, than what I experience in nature, or with others, or alone...


I don't know if it conforms to Catholic teaching though, it is a just a personal speculation about what more the complete truth might tell us.

I'm thinking of what the Catholic doctrine is, on the Eucharist.


[link to www.vatican.va]
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I really would like to hear your thoughts on the Eucharist LnL, based on passages like these:

" At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”

43 “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[d] Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. 46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”

52 Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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The church that accepts polygamy?
 Quoting: Bambi2U


David was a polygamist and wrote most of the Psalms. Should we throw those out? Abraham and Jacob were polygamists. Should we forget them?
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Regarding office of Bishop to have one wife.
When one consults STRONG'S EXHAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE, an amazing piece of evidence becomes revealed. In most cases, the word for ONE in the Greek is "heis" (hice), meaning the primary numeral "1". Yet, in the references to "ONE WIFE", the Greek word for ONE is not that word for the primary numeral "1". Indeed, in those three cases, ONE is "mia" (mee'-ah), meaning "one" or "first".

The bible is the word of God
so far as it is translated correctly. verycool
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1427345


Yes this is what the Mormons always say- 'The Bible is the word of God- SO FAR AS IT IS TRANSLATED CORRECTLY'.

And The Book of Mormon- translated by Joseph Smith from some supposed Golden Plates that no one has ever seen by using a Urim and Thumin device? What of that? While reading the Bible I came across this word Urim and Thumin. I can't remember what it was but it was not a translating device.
Does anyone remember what the Urim and Thumin was in the Bible or where it is talked about?

Also- did you know that Joseph Smith wore a Saturn Pendent around his neck that he believed made all women unable to resist his charms and gave him power over men- to persuade them.

Not to mention that he looked into his hat to get so called 'visions' from God. Have you ever really researched the true history of the Mormon religion?

He purchased Egyptian documents from a traveling salesman and 'translated' them into meaning something completely different from what was written on them. A person came along who could read them and said that is not what they say at all. Now those documents are hidden away.
The Mormon church changes so much of what they believe all the time it is a joke. They used to not allow Black People in to the church and now their leader has had a revelation that they should because they were getting so much crap about it for being racist.

Quite enlightening.
 Quoting: Goddess of the sea 1


The Urim and Thumin is a breastplate and eyeglasses .. Think Google Glass, yes placing a ones face into a hat would be a reasonable way to block ambient light while observing meant for only you to see! Many years was I a disbeliever of what after much study and prayer now know to be the truth.

Christ Himself was likewise crucified by conspiring men, for what healing a blind man on the Sabbath, how dare He do such a deed?

STRONG'S EXHAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE, what say ye?

Maybe this will shed some light for you:

[link to www.14lds.com]

Explains many mysteries,
if you can forgo the folklore verycool
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Re: Do you know of any Church today that is following scripture????
This may sound like an excuse but how is someone suppose to disciple 12 people in modern times, most people all ready have heard about Jesus and are not receptive to any preaching and reject his word, then if are going to a church, do you leave the church and start a new church?
It becomes very complicated when you need to have a meeting place. Especially when you don't have a meeting place large enough to house 12 people comfortably.
It was much easier to do 2000 years ago because you didn't have all of the influence and distractions from the media, and more people lived and worked outside of buildings and structures than they do today.
And the only kind of churches that seem prosperous now are the big mega churches with their prosperity preaching and strict tithing rules.
Discipleship is very difficult to do in these modern times.
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interesting, I have not heard about the "strict tithing rules" but I do know that many churches preach heavily, to the point of darkness, imo, on tithing 10%…

the irony of this is that 10% is OLD TESTAMENT teaching, as I understand it…

soooo. the hypocrisy continues, as none of the churches, except the problematic 7th Day Adventists, practice the OLD TESTAMENT LAWS of SABBATH KEEPING.

so the answer for me, to this thread, is to love God and each other as best we can…

part of the way to do this is to follow the laws as best we can, honor the Sabbath before God (Jesus said it was made for us and can take many forms, but THANKING GOD for the breath of life and the creation seems to be a minimum).

it seems to me if we spend 10% of our time/money doing the above, that is a form of tithing…

then there is the problem of communing with others… "where two or more are gathered"… this sort of implies that if you do not have at least one other person in your life, especially a significant other, with Jesus in their heart as Lord and Savior…then maybe that should be the first focus/step on the path towards finding a Church…


after all that, why not try going to different churches, meeting the different people, praying for things you see that seem off and generally enjoying the process of visiting other churches like an anthropologist…

and be prepared for some weirdness… I have literally met a woman in charge of Sunday School children in one church, who wreaked of alcohol and had dark energy all around her…

there are degrees, and often good people in every church… I especially enjoy planting a few seeds…


one thing all the churches have lost is a sense of the free will LAWS of the creation… agreed, not by deeds, but by faith, but one indicator to me of someone with faith is an understanding of the Laws, especially those pertaining to demonic influence we all must wrestle against and calling on the authority of Jesus Christ of Nazareth…

We were not created to be SLAVES to the evil here, but to have DOMINION. God did not create robots.
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As a Catholic, the debating all of you Protestants do about interpretation, seems like a waste of a spiritual life, its like what I did at the beginning of my Christian life, and I mean that with respect, there is nothing wrong with it.
I understand your need for it, and hope it brings you the joy and growth I get from my church.

We are all still on the road, on our way to the full truth.
That the truth does exist, and is discoverable, I firmly believe, otherwise, the Lord has set us on a perpetual chase without real meaning.
One day, we will know the truth in its entirety, for now we have precious parts of it.
Such as our imperative to love one another.

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KK,

I am Christian not Catholic, but, I listen to Catholic radio everyday...(I'm non-denominational)...but got Catholic judgmental looking down the nose around me every frickin' day.

Talk about debate on interpetation on that radio station!

We're all on the same side here...Lucille...

Father God, Jesus Christ Yeshua Messiah Our Lord, Holy Spirit, and the children of God.

Meat is what I'm interested in when it comes to the study of God's Word of Instruction...not some panny waste bullshit that take eleven pages of a beautiful day then for me to say bullshit I'm gonin' home and listening to Weird Al Yankovich.

God wants our recognition of our love for Him and His Son, Yeshuah.

God wants us to try and work on His desires for us...i.e., ten commandments.

God gave us the two churches that were teaching truth...
Smyrna and Philadelphia, Book of Revelation...all others are a bubble off.

Satan's four hidden dynasties:

Economics
Politics
Education
AND his favorite...Religion.

Denomination means division...

Hummm, "so, what church do you go to?"..."so, what denomination do you belong to?"...

Division amongst God's children...what better way to cause discord amongst the ranks of God's army.

Peace y'all.
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very well said: I listen to Catholic radio sometimes too, and they seem way more aware and radical than the Protestant one, often talking about issues that you never hear about in the media…

that said, I wonder if that isn't the basic agenda: to dumb down the Protestants and create all kinds of obvious issues that need to be addressed, like GMOs, and draw people under the ecumenical umbrella of the meme that "we all serve one God" whether Muslim, Buddhist, shaman, etc…

BUT if you read "The Two Babylons pdf" you see clearly that the template for paganism is Babylonian "mystery schools", worship of supernatural "spirits", a belief that when we die we have awareness (so we can speak to the dead--something it seems like "purgatory doctrine" supports… etc…so the "god" presented could very well be satan…

[link to www.ldolphin.org]

God forbade us to speak to spirits… Saul was punished for it probably because it was a deceiving spirit he was reaching…


someone mentioned the other day that in many countries traditionally they inter the dead for three days before burying… and this is because the person is not fully dead, on a cellular level, until after three days (and people have been known to awaken within that time)…

I do not know of any examples of an NDE who was out for more than three days... would be curious to know if there is one...
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listen to how the free will laws are used by occultists (the ones we are taught to ignore):
yt: Cisco Wheeler & Gret Szymanski -Corruption of churches
[link to youtu.be]
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Landover Baptist Church! Amen!
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Dear Goofy For God...Yes I do. The Shepherd's Chapel, Gravette, Arkansas. Pastor Arnold Murray. Just passed in Feb., but many video's. He only read from the Bible and original manuscripts. Studied four years, first time in my life God's word made total sense without confusion. Many people say bad things about him, but I know with all my heart he was a very blessed teacher sent to us from God. Direct TV channel #224, Monday through Friday,6:00AM, current teaching. His son teaches also, but Pastor A, #1:):):) Also check here. [link to theseason.yuku.com] (The Season Forums) May Father Bless you today! Sue

P.S. Also teaches never to beg for money, never
allowed a plate to be passed in his church! One of
a kind!
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Dear Goofy For God...Yes I do. The Shepherd's Chapel, Gravette, Arkansas. Pastor Arnold Murray. Just passed in Feb., but many video's. He only read from the Bible and original manuscripts. Studied four years, first time in my life God's word made total sense without confusion. Many people say bad things about him, but I know with all my heart he was a very blessed teacher sent to us from God. Direct TV channel #224, Monday through Friday,6:00AM, current teaching. His son teaches also, but Pastor A, #1:):):) Also check here. [link to theseason.yuku.com] (The Season Forums) May Father Bless you today! Sue

P.S. Also teaches never to beg for money, never
allowed a plate to be passed in his church! One of
a kind!
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Thanks AC hf
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Bro from Mo's church at the Lake of the Ozarks, teaches biblical truth, the pastor has healed the sick and raised the dead in Jesus' name. He is filled with the Holy Spirit and acts in Power of the Spirit.
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Dear Goofy For God...Yes I do. The Shepherd's Chapel, Gravette, Arkansas. Pastor Arnold Murray. Just passed in Feb., but many video's. He only read from the Bible and original manuscripts. Studied four years, first time in my life God's word made total sense without confusion. Many people say bad things about him, but I know with all my heart he was a very blessed teacher sent to us from God. Direct TV channel #224, Monday through Friday,6:00AM, current teaching. His son teaches also, but Pastor A, #1:):):) Also check here. [link to theseason.yuku.com] (The Season Forums) May Father Bless you today! Sue

P.S. Also teaches never to beg for money, never
allowed a plate to be passed in his church! One of
a kind!
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Thanks AC hf
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Do some research on this dude and beware. Follow no one but Christ. Does anyone actually trust the Holy Spirit's guidance?
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Dear Goofy For God...Yes I do. The Shepherd's Chapel, Gravette, Arkansas. Pastor Arnold Murray. Just passed in Feb., but many video's. He only read from the Bible and original manuscripts. Studied four years, first time in my life God's word made total sense without confusion. Many people say bad things about him, but I know with all my heart he was a very blessed teacher sent to us from God. Direct TV channel #224, Monday through Friday,6:00AM, current teaching. His son teaches also, but Pastor A, #1:):):) Also check here. [link to theseason.yuku.com] (The Season Forums) May Father Bless you today! Sue

P.S. Also teaches never to beg for money, never
allowed a plate to be passed in his church! One of
a kind!
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Thanks AC hf
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Do some research on this dude and beware. Follow no one but Christ. Does anyone actually trust the Holy Spirit's guidance?
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^^THIS^^

After all, it is the Spirit that teaches us all things (John 14:26) and guides us into all truth (John 16:13).

But "ungrasping" our own needs and letting the Spirit give the guidance is a difficult transition that will take time.
We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely.
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Yes, the church I attend does! Sadly though most of the churches today are in total apostasy!
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The problem here is this... How do thousands of "interpretive communities" decide who is right or wrong?
The answer can't be anything along these lines... "search your own heart and ask Jesus for help" because it simply has not worked. There needs to be an infallible authority.

Christ clearly established one Church - not of interpretive communities or christian sects that disagree.

This presents a major problem.
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After all is said and done:

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