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[link to www.nationaljournal.com]

Wow, 4% admits to being less intelligent.



"Forget being smarter than a fifth-grader. Most Americans think they're smarter than everyone else in the country.

Fifty-five percent of Americans think that they are smarter than the average American, according to a new survey by YouGov, a research organization that uses online polling. In other words, as YouGov cleverly points out, the average American thinks that he or she is smarter than the average American.

A humble 34 percent of citizens say they are about as smart as everyone else, while a dispirited 4 percent say they are less intelligent than most people."





Then the question of course, especially to you Americans; Can you relate to this? Are Americans clinging to a ghost of old?

From what i hear from other Americans, they tend to say the majority of Americans has never been more ignorant. What can be done? Is it to late?


Less than 50%, more at link.
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We are kept in ignorance for a reason. They had dumbed down the school system. I said this before and I will say it again, the only reason they would do that is so the people would be easy to manipulate. But, they can always be taught and catch up to speed in a small amount of time. They are not stupid, uneducated does, not mean stupid.

I have seen people who went to college and never taught the constitution or about the founding of documents of this country. They don't know it was founded on Judo Christian beliefs. The worship part of the amendment had to do with demonstrations, not being forced to worship as a Catholic or any other religious order, not Lutheran, not Baptist not any. If you did not want to worship you did not have to, but, the premise was that you could worship God and his Son Jesus Christ the way you conscience believed. It had nothing to do with any other God. It had a lot to do with forcing a State sanctioned Religion you were made to follow. It went back to when America was first settled getting away from the ones who would force you to practice Catholicism, or be a member of the Church of England.
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We are kept in ignorance for a reason. They had dumbed down the school system. I said this before and I will say it again, the only reason they would do that is so the people would be easy to manipulate. But, they can always be taught and catch up to speed in a small amount of time. They are not stupid, uneducated does, not mean stupid.

I have seen people who went to college and never taught the constitution or about the founding of documents of this country. They don't know it was founded on Judo Christian beliefs. The worship part of the amendment had to do with demonstrations, not being forced to worship as a Catholic or any other religious order, not Lutheran, not Baptist not any. If you did not want to worship you did not have to, but, the premise was that you could worship God and his Son Jesus Christ the way you conscience believed. It had nothing to do with any other God. It had a lot to do with forcing a State sanctioned Religion you were made to follow. It went back to when America was first settled getting away from the ones who would force you to practice Catholicism, or be a member of the Church of England.
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Yes education is the major player here me thinks. Thanks for your input.

More from link:

"The results are not surprising. Western cultures have a habit of inflating their self-worth, past research has shown. The most competent individuals also tend to underestimate their ability, while incompetent people overestimate it. Not out of arrogance, but of ignorance."
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According to Statistic Brain, America is ranked as the 19th' smartest country in the world.

Right on par with Norway! Il be damned. I wonder if the average Chinese thinks he's smarter than the average Chinese!

1 Hong Kong 107
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Taiwan 104
5 Singapore 103
6 Austria 102
6 Germany 102
6 Italy 102
6 Netherlands 102
10 Sweden 101
10 Switzerland 101
12 Belgium 100
12 China 100
12 New Zealand 100
12 United Kingdom 100
16 Hungary 99
16 Poland 99
16 Spain 99
19 Australia 98
19 Denmark 98
19 France 98
19 Mongolia 98
19 Norway 98
19 United States 98

25 Canada 97
25 Czech Republic 97
25 Finland

Source: [link to www.statisticbrain.com]

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According to Statistic Brain, America is ranked as the 19th' smartest country in the world.

Right on par with Norway! Il be damned. I wonder if the average Chinese thinks he's smarter than the average Chinese!

1 Hong Kong 107
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Taiwan 104
5 Singapore 103
6 Austria 102
6 Germany 102
6 Italy 102
6 Netherlands 102
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We are right behind the Asians? Interesting.
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This is why our country is in the mess we're in.....
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Hehe, touche GM.

Much thanks for the pin for my first thread hf
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If we can agree that education is the major culprit here, then what's wrong with the education system? This article from June 2013 attempts to highlight this:

"The country needs to stop this downward spiral and build a better system from the ground up. A good place to start would be to address the technical requirements for teaching. Education scholars identify three kinds of knowledge that good teachers have: "substantive knowledge," that is, knowledge about the subjects they teach; "pedagogical knowledge," about how to teach; and "pedagogical content knowledge," about how students are likely to understand the subject, what errors or preconceptions they may harbor, and how to respond to these misunderstandings. Good teachers know how to draw on and apply these different forms of knowledge in real and fast-changing situations; research by the University of Chicago's Philip Jackson suggests that teachers make more than a thousand decisions over the course of a single day."



Much less than 50%. More at link, long read:

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Typical DUNNING KRUGER effect.

Survey GLP conspracy theorists. They must also think they're awaken and much smarter than all other critical thinkers who questioned their 911 conspiracy scenario and all unproven conspiracy hypothesis(crap).
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Typical DUNNING KRUGER effect.

Survey GLP conspracy theorists. They must also think they're awaken and much smarter than all other critical thinkers who questioned their 911 conspiracy scenario and all unproven conspiracy hypothesis(crap).
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This is true. Another way to divide us. The one's who ask are crazy and the ones who dont are ignorant..
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This honestly doesn't surprise me. Show any sign of intelligence or oddity and you get labelled with ADHD/Antisocial Personality Disorder/Autism/Aspergers and drugs are forced down your throat until you think you need the medication.
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"The average American is a stupid hee ho. And half of them are even stupider hee hos."

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dunning-kruger effect at work !

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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smart people tend to downplay their skills. low iq tends to overestimate oneself.

that´s what the dunning-kruger study found out :)
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All I have to say to the OP is Honey Boo Boo.
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Re: POLL: The average American think's hes smarter than the average American
According to Statistic Brain, America is ranked as the 19th' smartest country in the world.

Right on par with Norway! Il be damned. I wonder if the average Chinese thinks he's smarter than the average Chinese!

1 Hong Kong 107
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Taiwan 104
5 Singapore 103
6 Austria 102
6 Germany 102
6 Italy 102
6 Netherlands 102
10 Sweden 101
10 Switzerland 101
12 Belgium 100
12 China 100
12 New Zealand 100
12 United Kingdom 100
16 Hungary 99
16 Poland 99
16 Spain 99
19 Australia 98
19 Denmark 98
19 France 98
19 Mongolia 98
19 Norway 98
19 United States 98

25 Canada 97
25 Czech Republic 97
25 Finland

Source: [link to www.statisticbrain.com]
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As an American, may I just step in and say...

Czech Republic women is way hot, they should be given rank based on their lovely ladies, [bites knuckles] I mean Prague? Whoa. B-b-b-b-buns.

Wait, was this thread a test OP? Did I pass and choose the right women?
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Thanks for your inputs peeps.

Its important to talk about. A lot of contries look to USA when we talk about education and how these systems work.

Our School (and health) institutes in Norway were founded by none other than Rockefeller himself (!) I observe that we tend to follow in your steps. A problem here in Norway is that we have TO MANY PHD's and master degrees, and many of them have problems finding work.

People buy their education, gets a PHD/master and simply fall out of the system. Suddenly everyone are doctors and proffessors. To seldom because they have genuine intrest in what they are doing.

Probably also why employers tend to look for personal qualities and not so much education and work experience in the 20'th century.
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According to Statistic Brain, America is ranked as the 19th' smartest country in the world.

Right on par with Norway! Il be damned. I wonder if the average Chinese thinks he's smarter than the average Chinese!

1 Hong Kong 107
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Taiwan 104
5 Singapore 103
6 Austria 102
6 Germany 102
6 Italy 102
6 Netherlands 102
10 Sweden 101
10 Switzerland 101
12 Belgium 100
12 China 100
12 New Zealand 100
12 United Kingdom 100
16 Hungary 99
16 Poland 99
16 Spain 99
19 Australia 98
19 Denmark 98
19 France 98
19 Mongolia 98
19 Norway 98
19 United States 98

25 Canada 97
25 Czech Republic 97
25 Finland

Source: [link to www.statisticbrain.com]
 Quoting: Deimos


As an American, may I just step in and say...

Czech Republic women is way hot, they should be given rank based on their lovely ladies, [bites knuckles] I mean Prague? Whoa. B-b-b-b-buns.

Wait, was this thread a test OP? Did I pass and choose the right women?
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You win and we might aswell close the thread.

Punchline: B-b-b-b-buns.
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What makes people smart though?

Being good at making money?? Being Cunning?? Deceitful??

What are the traits. Does it make you a better person.
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No, but if you want a job, they wont ask you how many homeless people you have helped recently, do they?

Its a dog-eat-dog system. Compete with your peers or lose.
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You win and we might aswell close the thread.

Punchline: B-b-b-b-buns.
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Thanks OP you're kind. And, a bunlover. ;D

Butt, all joking aside, I know I am smart because I read. But also I know all other people are smart, because, I simply cannot read everything.

And that OP, is what life is really about: Buns. --I mean books.
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You win and we might aswell close the thread.

Punchline: B-b-b-b-buns.
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Thanks OP you're kind. And, a bunlover. ;D

Butt, all joking aside, I know I am smart because I read. But also I know all other people are smart, because, I simply cannot read everything.

And that OP, is what life is really about: Buns. --I mean books.
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Hold up. How about a book about buns?

[link to www.amazon.com]

This thread has reached its climax. Haha.
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Typical DUNNING KRUGER effect.

Survey GLP conspracy theorists. They must also think they're awaken and much smarter than all other critical thinkers who questioned their 911 conspiracy scenario and all unproven conspiracy hypothesis(crap).
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hesright
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Only in a great country like America tha average is above the average!
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yes but I really am smarter

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i is smarterer.... ;)
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We are kept in ignorance for a reason. They had dumbed down the school system. I said this before and I will say it again, the only reason they would do that is so the people would be easy to manipulate. But, they can always be taught and catch up to speed in a small amount of time. They are not stupid, uneducated does, not mean stupid.

I have seen people who went to college and never taught the constitution or about the founding of documents of this country. They don't know it was founded on Judo Christian beliefs. The worship part of the amendment had to do with demonstrations, not being forced to worship as a Catholic or any other religious order, not Lutheran, not Baptist not any. If you did not want to worship you did not have to, but, the premise was that you could worship God and his Son Jesus Christ the way you conscience believed. It had nothing to do with any other God. It had a lot to do with forcing a State sanctioned Religion you were made to follow. It went back to when America was first settled getting away from the ones who would force you to practice Catholicism, or be a member of the Church of England.
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We are kept in ignorance for a reason. They had dumbed down the school system. I said this before and I will say it again, the only reason they would do that is so the people would be easy to manipulate. But, they can always be taught and catch up to speed in a small amount of time. They are not stupid, uneducated does, not mean stupid.

I have seen people who went to college and never taught the constitution or about the founding of documents of this country. They don't know it was founded on Judo Christian beliefs. The worship part of the amendment had to do with demonstrations, not being forced to worship as a Catholic or any other religious order, not Lutheran, not Baptist not any. If you did not want to worship you did not have to, but, the premise was that you could worship God and his Son Jesus Christ the way you conscience believed. It had nothing to do with any other God. It had a lot to do with forcing a State sanctioned Religion you were made to follow. It went back to when America was first settled getting away from the ones who would force you to practice Catholicism, or be a member of the Church of England.
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bump
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This honestly doesn't surprise me. Show any sign of intelligence or oddity and you get labelled with ADHD/Antisocial Personality Disorder/Autism/Aspergers and drugs are forced down your throat until you think you need the medication.
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^^THIS^^

When my son was little the school district told me that he was ADHD, Autistic and Dyslexic. They called me into a meeting with the Principle, Vice Principle, Guidance Counselor, and Special Education team. I was pretty crushed at that moment. As I sat around the table be scrutinized, the Principal told me that he could never learn how to read. I asked her how she could possibly determine that at 6 years old. She pulled out a folder and said I will show you his IQ results. She flipped through the pages, then looked around the table and said "I think you gave me the wrong file." Once they determined that the school psychologist did indeed give them the correct file, she looked at me and said "I don't understand, it appears that his IQ is 130"

With no other solution, they advised me to have him medicated so he could "live up to his potential" Time went by with me refusing to do so. I went back and forth to that school several times a month. Eventually they called CPS and opened a child abuse for "failure to provide necessary medical care". That began a time torture for my family. We spent over a year dealing with child protective services, doctors and lawyers, all because I refused to drug my child. Eventually the case was expunged and moved him to school more suited to dealing with his abilities. He is 15 now and thriving in honors classes.
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I work with a bunch of phd's and scientists... it's humbling.
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