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About the Devil and his origins:

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About the Devil and his origins:
The Evil One, the Chief of all Liars, the Light Bearer, the Prince of Darkness, Lucifer, Satan, Baphomet, Leviathan, Beelzebub, the list goes on and on.

The most important of those titles being 'the Light Bearer'.

What does it mean to 'bear light'?
Does it mean the Devil literally manipulated light?
Not quite.

Eze 28:13-15

Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God;
every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius,
topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx,
and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald,
and the carbuncle, and gold:
the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes
was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth;
and I have set thee so: thou wast upon
the holy mountain of God;
thou hast walked up and down in the midst
of the stones of fire.

Thou wast perfect in thy ways
rom the day that thou wast created,
till iniquity was found in thee.


What is a "Covering Cherub"?

It is the Angel(s) to stand directly between the Most High and his creation-- to bear the light of the Most High from his Creation, because they were not pure enough to lay eyes on the Almighty. Those Covering Cherubs are understood to be the voice of the Almighty as few others can bear to hear the Most High speak without being obliterated.

1 The 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ
shall rise first:

So, about that pride ... Suddenly it becomes quite clear why Lucifer thought he could lead a rebellion against the Almighty. The Devil was whom every other of God's creations had to observe in covering the Most High's glory.

It also becomes clear as to why the Evil one is so vain.
Clearly he isn't worthy of worship, yet it seems as though he's always desired it.

Rev 12:3-5

And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns,
and seven crowns upon his heads.

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven,
and did cast them to the earth
and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered,
for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

And she brought forth a man child,
who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron:
and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

It is understood that Lucifer conned a third of the Angels in the Heavenly Host into rebelling with him against God. Perhaps this 'man child' mentioned is referring directly to the 'Antichrist' or Avatar of Lucifer.
The 'woman which was ready to be delivered' could be a Church about to create this AntiChrist, or it could literally be a woman about to physically birth the Evil one's human body.

Since the child was "caught up to unto God, and to his throne" it is very specific in what the child's place is spiritually.

As for the lies he told to Heavenly Host for rebellion:
I believe it was the same as what he tempted Eve with in the Garden of Eden... To be like God.

Gen 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof,
then your eyes shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods
, knowing good and evil.

Do the following verses about Satan being an "Angel of Light" make sense now? He detests the Most High and desires worship, glory and praise for himself.

2Co 11:12-14
But what I do, that I will do,
that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion;
that wherein they glory,
they may be found even as we.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed
into an angel of light.


Now, about those fallen angels, the third of the Heavenly Host that rebelled with the evil one:

Gen 6:1-4
And it came to pass,
when men began to multiply on the face of the earth,
and daughters were born unto them,

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair;
and they took them wives of all which they chose.

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man,
for that he also is flesh:
yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,
and they bare children to them,
the same became mighty men which were of old,
men of renown.


Genesis 6:1-4 are in my opinion the most powerful verses in the OT describing how life was shortly after creation.

Not only are 'sons of God' (Not capitol 'S' for Son albeit small 's') spiritually seeking their place on Earth by mixing themselves with flesh, you also have where these offspring are noted as being mighty men of renown.

Most importantly, these 'mighty men of renown' are generally understood to be the 'Apollo, Diana, Zeus, Jupiter, Thor, Odin etc'.

And finally, understand these creations were indeed Giants.
Look to ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, look at the giant bodies found in the land of Canaan, or perhaps Angkor Wat for more influence of these 'mighty men of renown'.

So, where did these 'mighty men of renown' take their gentile nations?

Gen 10:5-9
By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands;
every one after his tongue,
after their families,
in their nations.

And the sons of Ham;
Cush, and Mizraim,
and Phut, and Canaan.

And the sons of Cush;
Seba, and Havilah,
and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha:
and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

And Cush begat Nimrod:
he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

He was a mighty hunter before the LORD:
wherefore it is said,
Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel,
and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

If you notice, many of the names of the sons of Ham have names that bear a striking resemblance to ancient Egyptian 'dieties.'

Make no mistake, the tribe of Canaanites was involved in the same Babylonian worship that allowed the sons of God to procreate with Man's daughters.
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Re: About the Devil and his origins:
Interesting correlations, OP. Keep up the studies and share them. I'd like to hear more about this subject.
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Re: About the Devil and his origins:
You know what they say about speaking about the devil?
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Re: About the Devil and his origins:
You know what they say about speaking about the devil?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54780145

satan eagerly tilteth his mouth wide
in expectation of man's you-rhine.
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Re: About the Devil and his origins:
There will be safe places in the west.
The process of getting there however will be the most difficult thing imaginable, and even there, a tremendous work of cleanup will be necessary.
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Re: About the Devil and his origins:
OP, read here :

[link to www.urantia.org]
Wisdom Is light
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Re: About the Devil and his origins:
Lucifer and Satan are two different entities.

Lucifer is the left hand path with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit (attempting to fight satan as a "mighty man") basically fighting your subconscious and the collective subconscious through the power of GOD.

Satan is actually the collective subconscious in this place, biblically speaking there is no light in him only darkness. It is satan's kingdom because he's the keeper of the field, the subconscious populates your reality and you can't see it being done until you have the Holy Spirit.

With the Holy Spirit you are one with GOD (John 17) but you are not supposed to sin with the Holy Spirit even if it's for the right reasons (fight bad guys with your mind power to save everyone else). This is the left hand path. This is basically "being your own GOD" by piggybacking on the power of GOD. This is not theory on my part, when I first saw what was going on here (before I understood it) I fought them. This was last year from June to around December. 24 hours a day with everything of my wicked imagination with the Holy Spirit. I mean EVERYTHING, technology, spirits, alien creatures, cyborgs, military grade hardware, bio, chem, hammers, swords, everything...things you probably couldn't even imagine were on the table. It's a war in your mind so you can fight it with your imagination you're just not supposed to it shows a lack of faith in GOD. I have paid for these sins...you better believe you will if you do it.

It didn't destroy me but GOD will not protect you or help you if you disregard him for your own pride. YOU NEED GOD when you have the Holy Spirit and you need to do GOD's work (Isaiah 58)
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Re: About the Devil and his origins:
Didnt even bother to read to end, he is SET and woman is ISIS after OSIRIS let set kill him ISIS gave birth to HORUS. Its all good he dont want worship, he wantee ISIS he got her. Originally they both loved ISIS and it needed fixing. He cares only for his family nothing else, who would want worship of lot he hates to the bits. He wants you to worship him only for a brief moment then he hates you and torments you. There is no god higher than the other fuckwads.
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