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That's not what OP is alluding to.
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Yes it is...
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Uh, no it isn't. This is gnostic, think you need to learn something, eh?

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Nine, number: The number three is the number of perfection and completeness. Nine, which is three squared, refers to the attainment of perfection on the three lower planes [material plane, astral and mental planes].

The above defines why Matthew 27:46 starts out with about the ninth hour. It was about the ninth hour because Jesus’ soul was about to become perfect through the death of his lower nature. Now let’s look at Gaskell’s definition for the crucifixion itself:

Crucifixion of Jesus, according to the Canonical Gospel’s: A symbol of the final anguish of the incarnate Soul as it reaches perfection, and the lower nature drops away from it.

Now Jesus’ statement about God forsaking him is starting to make some sense! The ego, which represents the passions and desires of the lower man, truly feels forsaken as its dissolution and death. Of course it’s going to cry out that it is being forsaken. We ourselves do this every time we feel like we aren’t getting the attention we feel that we deserve!



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he is preaching not to be baptized..you idiot...
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Name calling? Seems to be something in you that is the problem

And I understand what he wrote, you're the one who didn't.

Just showed you some what this means.

And its, way over your head, not quite up to the intellect on this thread then I'd say.

The bible is gnostic.

The outer fundamental meanings are untruth.

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The body must relax from its contraction of "I."

The body becomes glorified, its energy becomes transformed.

We don't need all the technical awareness to go through this process of glorification or spiritual transformation.

It occurs naturally in our native condition.

I am that whole process , I'm not other than it.

I am not viewing it from a position that is other than it.

The failure to be bodily present brings a halt to the process.

We are not relaxed in our enlightenment, so the process is at a halt. Subjectivity brings a halt to the body's process.

It is a form of contraction, a way of keeping everything essentially as it is.
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When "I" am the body,

All these contractions cease.

When "I" become the body altogether,

I cease to be in an anxious

Relationship to it.
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No its not over my head and its not what he said.. He said to truly live you must die, then read what he followed up with. Four police officers just read it the same exact way i did..

I going to leave it at that..


I see the other paid shills have come in now to back it up..

Lets Just let the Law handle it...
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Baptism?

Paul told us baptism was Moses and the crossing of the red sea.

Moses said to them, Man of Peace, be still and know the Lord.

Red Sea is anger and reactions and warring nature.

The Waters of Baptism is Meditation.

Be still and know the Lord.

Genesis 32 30 tells us that Jacob named the city he met God in penial.

Please pay attention, the bible contains some deep inner clues.

To meet God in your penial takes meditation, and it also takes overcoming your flaws, your weaknesses, and your body suit's reactions and anger.
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No its not over my head and its not what he said.. He said to truly live you must die, then read what he followed up with. Four police officers just read it the same exact way i did..

I going to leave it at that..


I see the other paid shills have come in now to back it up..

Lets Just let the Law handle it...
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You'd be the shill on this thread, my dear.

And way out to lunch.
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I don't think they are talking about suicide or death in that sense.

Maybe they are referring to the death of emotion.

Possibly ego, but I am not sure.

Each of us is an individual soul so maybe it is purely about that.

Separating emotion from reality?

Cause our emotions affect our individual realities?

I dunno, just trying to understand.
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What in the hee ho are you guys talking about?!
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You have to die and be born again as Jesus said, yet it never meant you die. It means you have to overcome lower mind, and its attachment to your body/beast reactions and achieve Higher Mind, you go from the son of man to the Son of God, and yet you're still alive with work to do even, shining light in the world, connected to Source.
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The Read sea is Sickness and death and the east wind (A Secret)... study it out...

All six of the final Plagues of Ezekiel 39 Deuteronomy 28-29 and Revelation 16 including the death of the first born..


In the end times they come and take out all the people who go against God's people and God's law... they are spreading around the world right now...


Fukishima is the final one...
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No its not over my head and its not what he said.. He said to truly live you must die, then read what he followed up with. Four police officers just read it the same exact way i did..

I going to leave it at that..


I see the other paid shills have come in now to back it up..

Lets Just let the Law handle it...
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You'd be the shill on this thread, my dear.

And way out to lunch.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Funny the cops didnt think so... they read it exactly the same as I did...
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I don't think they are talking about suicide or death in that sense.

Maybe they are referring to the death of emotion.

Possibly ego, but I am not sure.

Each of us is an individual soul so maybe it is purely about that.

Separating emotion from reality?

Cause our emotions affect our individual realities?

I dunno, just trying to understand.
 Quoting: TheGasMan II


Talking about the real inner meanings found in scripture and many spiritual works,its all gnosticism. Innner meanings. You have to dig for the jewels, you have to go within to find the precious pearl.

Any outer expression, ie fundamental one, is error, and often its a grims fairy tail error, and transforms the God of Love into a murderer. All of it takes place inside of you.

Your inner Michael/Christ defeats your inner dragon.

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No its not over my head and its not what he said.. He said to truly live you must die, then read what he followed up with. Four police officers just read it the same exact way i did..

I going to leave it at that..


I see the other paid shills have come in now to back it up..

Lets Just let the Law handle it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58082028


You'd be the shill on this thread, my dear.

And way out to lunch.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Funny the cops didnt think so... they read it exactly the same as I did...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58082028


You are absolutely lying, trying to bully people on spiritual threads, and acting like a your have an IQ of -50.

Spiritual threads/writings/expressions are not illegal. Cops who think like you do, would be in serious trouble with their more intelligent supervisors, when they got the reality explained to them about life, and metaphor.

Most people learn metaphor in school by the way.......

Though have to admit there are those who can do abstract thinking and those who can't, some can do algebra and some are in remedial math.

Please stick to the remedial math threads, this one isn't for you.
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^^ I WANT A T-SHIRT THAT SAYS THAT ^^

I'm sending the first ones to my former coworkers. Damnable idiots living in La La Land.
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The Red sea is Sickness and death and the east wind (A Secret)... study it out...

All six of the final Plagues of Ezekiel 39 Deuteronomy 28-29 and Revelation 16 including the death of the first born..


In the end times they come and take out all the people who go against God's people and God's law... they are spreading around the world right now...


Fukishima is the final one...
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All those without the blood of the Lamb over their door post.
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Transcend the world and be saved.


Jesus is not going to save you.

Only you save you.

The Heartfelt Surrender of fear is the secret of passing through the spiritual process without going mad and insane.

Insanity is in abundance....its surplus.
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Darlin', I love your title, but Jesus IS going to save me. It's a soul thing. Damn, I thought you were cool but you're just another Christian basher. Shame on you.
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The Red sea is Sickness and death and the east wind (A Secret)... study it out...

All six of the final Plagues of Ezekiel 39 Deuteronomy 28-29 and Revelation 16 including the death of the first born..


In the end times they come and take out all the people who go against God's people and God's law... they are spreading around the world right now...


Fukishima is the final one...
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All those without the blood of the Lamb over their door post.
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That wasn't literal either.

[link to www.spiritofthescripture.com]

In our former blog post we discussed that before Moses entered Egypt, he threw down his rod and it became a serpent. When God told him to pick the serpent up again, it turned back into a rod. That process is symbolic of Kundalini energy (serpent energy) rising through the seven chakras on the spinal column that finally reaches special glands in the brain opening spiritual gateways.

So do we have any other imagery in this story that illustrates this process? Does Moses do anything with the rod of God (serpent energy) that tells us this is what this story is really about? Yes! Consider what the LORD tells Moses to do:

“But lift thou up thy rod and stretch out thine hand over the sea…” (Exodus 14:16).

When Moses lifts the rod, the waters of the Red Sea become parted. When kundalini is raised up the spinal column, the division between the lower man and your higher nature takes place, literally transforming our old way of thinking.


Going into Egypt is going into Ego by the way, to be tested by Ego.

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Transcend the world and be saved.


Jesus is not going to save you.

Only you save you.

The Heartfelt Surrender of fear is the secret of passing through the spiritual process without going mad and insane.

Insanity is in abundance....its surplus.
 Quoting: Stu


Darlin', I love your title, but Jesus IS going to save me. It's a soul thing. Damn, I thought you were cool but you're just another Christian basher. Shame on you.
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It's also a life thing.. two in the field, One shall be taken the other left!
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The Red sea is Sickness and death and the east wind (A Secret)... study it out...

All six of the final Plagues of Ezekiel 39 Deuteronomy 28-29 and Revelation 16 including the death of the first born..


In the end times they come and take out all the people who go against God's people and God's law... they are spreading around the world right now...


Fukishima is the final one...
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All those without the blood of the Lamb over their door post.
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That wasn't literal either.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


No it isn't Its the baptism of water and the Holy Spirit!

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him; Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with him. Col 2:12



But that is not what he said...
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Talking about the real inner meanings found in scripture and many spiritual works,its all gnosticism. Innner meanings. You have to dig for the jewels, you have to go within to find the precious pearl.
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Transpersonal Psychology field would refer to it as 'ego death' (transcendance)...
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he said to live you must die, then he said listen to your inner self...

Well if you tell somebody they must die to live then listen to your innerself... You have just told them to commit suicide...
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Talking about the real inner meanings found in scripture and many spiritual works,its all gnosticism. Innner meanings. You have to dig for the jewels, you have to go within to find the precious pearl.
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Transpersonal Psychology field would refer to it as 'ego death' (transcendance)...
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He didnt say that..
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this is not your standard guilt trip

its beyond that


it behooves you and the Universe behooves you.
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The Red sea is Sickness and death and the east wind (A Secret)... study it out...

All six of the final Plagues of Ezekiel 39 Deuteronomy 28-29 and Revelation 16 including the death of the first born..


In the end times they come and take out all the people who go against God's people and God's law... they are spreading around the world right now...


Fukishima is the final one...
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All those without the blood of the Lamb over their door post.
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That wasn't literal either.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


No it isn't Its the baptism of water and the Holy Spirit!

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him; Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with him. Col 2:12



But that is not what he said...
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You may believe that, but others don't, and in order to be remain blind to anamolous passages that should have caused you to think beyond what is taught by the minister, is also your perogative.

But its cyber bullying to not only come on someone's thread and insist on your box of thinking, and then threaten police on the metaphoric spiritual understandings that all gnostics know.

Basically go find a religious thread and don't let the door slap you on the ass on your way out.

Your attitude is far from Christian as well, its more like a pitbull.
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All those without the blood of the Lamb over their door post.
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That wasn't literal either.
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No it isn't Its the baptism of water and the Holy Spirit!

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him; Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with him. Col 2:12



But that is not what he said...
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You may believe that, but others don't, and in order to be remain blind to anamolous passages that should have caused you to think beyond what is taught by the minister, is also your perogative.

But its cyber bullying to not only come on someone's thread and insist on your box of thinking, and then threaten police on the metaphoric spiritual understandings that all gnostics know.

Basically go find a religious thread and don't let the door slap you on the ass on your way out.

Your attitude is far from Christian as well, its more like a pitbull.
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It wasn't a threat its been done... and its not cyber bullying shill... to stop somebody from telling people to commit suicide.... And its not blindness when your own DOD has said that Its armageddon when the plagues started to hit....


Its you my friend that are blind...
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and I have never been in a church in my life other then a wedding... nor do I have a pastor..
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That wasn't literal either.
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No it isn't Its the baptism of water and the Holy Spirit!

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him; Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with him. Col 2:12



But that is not what he said...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58082028


You may believe that, but others don't, and in order to be remain blind to anamolous passages that should have caused you to think beyond what is taught by the minister, is also your perogative.

But its cyber bullying to not only come on someone's thread and insist on your box of thinking, and then threaten police on the metaphoric spiritual understandings that all gnostics know.

Basically go find a religious thread and don't let the door slap you on the ass on your way out.

Your attitude is far from Christian as well, its more like a pitbull.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


It wasn't a threat its been done... and its not cyber bullying shill... to stop somebody from telling people to commit suicide.... And its not blindness when your own DOD has said that Its armageddon when the plagues started to hit....


Its you my friend that are blind...
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Um...you were told what it meant, and yet continued. I'd say very odd indeed.

Everyone else got it.

Also you seem to have some very fundamental concepts of the bible, you had to have picked them up somewhere.

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Only after I called the cops and posted so...
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Well I popped in on the thread because I recognized some gnostic meanings, and then was amazed at this one concrete thinker who kept repeating the same thing over and over, not understanding the whole purpose of the thread, so I wrote and linked some direct answers on one of my favorite sites.

Should have cleared it up immediately. Anyway, I apologize for calling you a bully if you truly couldn't see.

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Also you seem to have some very fundamental concepts of the bible, you had to have picked them up somewhere.


It's called reading... Unlike something you might have done!
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You people need to get with the truth...

the plagues are really bad and so is the outcome for all of us."me included"

especially those who live within the United States... they are especially bad.. and so is what is coming..


Fukushima is very real so is what you are breathing in... so are the other 5 plagues and the final war that is coming...





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