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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24085560 United States05/20/2014 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. |
| Paddy User ID: 5574044 United States05/20/2014 08:42 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . You don't have a get out of jail free card do you? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24085560 United States05/20/2014 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. I respectfully disagree with you wholeheartedly . It did exist and it was a body of believers who loved Jesus wholeheartedly . They suffered incredible persecution in the face of it . That same body exists today , not in the church on the corner but broadly scattered in many denominations . The Church is invisible and quite possibly will be winnowed out to face the same persecutions in these last days . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274981 United States05/20/2014 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Messiah has Come - Jesus To be born in Bethlehem... “And you, O Bethlehem of Ephrath, Least among the clans of Judah, From you one shall come forth To rule Israel for Me -- One whose origin is from of old, From ancient times.” (Micah 5:1) “And he demanded of them where Messiah should be born, and they said to him, In Bethlehem of Judaea.” (Matthew 2:4-5) Son of God... Let me tell of the decree: the L-rd said to me, "You are My son, I have fathered you this day.” (Psalm 2:7) “For G-d so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” (John 3:15) Of the Tribe of Judah... “The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor the ruler's staff from between his feet; So that tribute shall come to him; And the homage of peoples be his.” (Genesis 49:10) “Our L-rd was descended from Judah.” (Hebrews 7:14) Born of a virgin... “Assuredly, my Lord will give you a sign of His own accord! Look, the young woman is with child and about to give birth to a son. Let her name him Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14) “...she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.” (Matthew 1:18) A Navi like Moshe... “The L-rd your G-d will raise up for you a prophet from among your own people, like myself; him you shall heed.” (Deuteronomy 18:15) “If you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me.” (John 5:46) King of Israel “Rejoice greatly, Fair Zion; Raise a shout, Fair Jerusalem! Lo, your king is coming to you. He is victorious, triumphant, Yet humble, riding on an ass, a donkey foaled by a she-ass.” (Zechariah 9:9) “So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the L-rd, even the King of Israel!”(John 12:13) Rejected... “He was despised, shunned by men, A man of suffering, familiar with disease. As one who hid his face from us, He was despised, we held him of no account.” (Isaiah 53:3) “He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.” (John 1:11) Beaten... “Now you gash yourself in grief. They have laid siege to us; They strike the ruler of Israel On the cheek with a staff.” (Micah 4:14) “And they were striking his head with a reed and spitting on him and kneeling down in homage to him.” (Mark 15:19) Silent... “He was maltreated, yet he was submissive, He did not open his mouth; Like a sheep being led to slaughter, Like a ewe, dumb before those who shear her, He did not open his mouth.” (Isaiah 53:7) “But when he was accused by the chief priests and elders, he gave no answer.” (Matthew 27:12) Betrayed... “My ally in whom I trusted, even he who shares my bread, has been utterly false to me.” (Psalm 41:10) “Yeshua said, Truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me, one who is eating with me.” (Mark 14:18) Tried and Condemned... “By oppressive judgment he was taken away, Who could describe his abode? For he was cut off from the land of the living, for the sin of my people, who deserved the punishment.” (Isaiah 53:8) “When morning came, all the chief priests and the elders of the people took counsel against Yeshua to put him to death.” (Matthew 27:1) Crucified... “Dogs surround me; a pack of evil ones closes in on me, like lions they maul my hands and feet.” (Psalm 22:17) “And he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called the place of a skull.” (John 19:17) Garments divided... “They divide my clothes among themselves, casting lots for my garments.” (Psalm 22:19) “Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Yeshua, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part.” (John 19:23) Given vinegar and gall... “They give me gall for food, vinegar to quench my thirst.” (Psalm 69:22) “A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth.” (John 19:29) Bones not broken... “...and you shall not break any of its bones.” (Exodus 12:46) “But when they came to Yeshua and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.” (John 19:33) He is our sacrifice... “But he was wounded because of our sins, Crushed because of our iniquities. He bore the chastisement that made us whole, And by his bruises we were healed. We all went astray like sheep, Each going his own way; And the LORD visited upon him the guilt of all of us.” (Isaiah 53:5-6) “He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. For you were straying like sheep, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.” (1 Peter 2:24-25) Raised from the dead... “For You will not abandon me to Sheol, or let Your faithful one see the pit.” (Psalm 16:10) “Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen from the dead.” (Luke 24:5-6) |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Messiah has Come - Jesus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58274981 To be born in Bethlehem... “And you, O Bethlehem of Ephrath, Least among the clans of Judah, From you one shall come forth To rule Israel for Me -- One whose origin is from of old, From ancient times.” (Micah 5:1) “And he demanded of them where Messiah should be born, and they said to him, In Bethlehem of Judaea.” (Matthew 2:4-5) Son of God... Let me tell of the decree: the L-rd said to me, "You are My son, I have fathered you this day.” (Psalm 2:7) “For G-d so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” (John 3:15) Of the Tribe of Judah... “The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor the ruler's staff from between his feet; So that tribute shall come to him; And the homage of peoples be his.” (Genesis 49:10) “Our L-rd was descended from Judah.” (Hebrews 7:14) Born of a virgin... “Assuredly, my Lord will give you a sign of His own accord! Look, the young woman is with child and about to give birth to a son. Let her name him Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14) “...she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.” (Matthew 1:18) A Navi like Moshe... “The L-rd your G-d will raise up for you a prophet from among your own people, like myself; him you shall heed.” (Deuteronomy 18:15) “If you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me.” (John 5:46) King of Israel “Rejoice greatly, Fair Zion; Raise a shout, Fair Jerusalem! Lo, your king is coming to you. He is victorious, triumphant, Yet humble, riding on an ass, a donkey foaled by a she-ass.” (Zechariah 9:9) “So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the L-rd, even the King of Israel!”(John 12:13) Rejected... “He was despised, shunned by men, A man of suffering, familiar with disease. As one who hid his face from us, He was despised, we held him of no account.” (Isaiah 53:3) “He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.” (John 1:11) Beaten... “Now you gash yourself in grief. They have laid siege to us; They strike the ruler of Israel On the cheek with a staff.” (Micah 4:14) “And they were striking his head with a reed and spitting on him and kneeling down in homage to him.” (Mark 15:19) Silent... “He was maltreated, yet he was submissive, He did not open his mouth; Like a sheep being led to slaughter, Like a ewe, dumb before those who shear her, He did not open his mouth.” (Isaiah 53:7) “But when he was accused by the chief priests and elders, he gave no answer.” (Matthew 27:12) Betrayed... “My ally in whom I trusted, even he who shares my bread, has been utterly false to me.” (Psalm 41:10) “Yeshua said, Truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me, one who is eating with me.” (Mark 14:18) Tried and Condemned... “By oppressive judgment he was taken away, Who could describe his abode? For he was cut off from the land of the living, for the sin of my people, who deserved the punishment.” (Isaiah 53:8) “When morning came, all the chief priests and the elders of the people took counsel against Yeshua to put him to death.” (Matthew 27:1) Crucified... “Dogs surround me; a pack of evil ones closes in on me, like lions they maul my hands and feet.” (Psalm 22:17) “And he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called the place of a skull.” (John 19:17) Garments divided... “They divide my clothes among themselves, casting lots for my garments.” (Psalm 22:19) “Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Yeshua, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part.” (John 19:23) Given vinegar and gall... “They give me gall for food, vinegar to quench my thirst.” (Psalm 69:22) “A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth.” (John 19:29) Bones not broken... “...and you shall not break any of its bones.” (Exodus 12:46) “But when they came to Yeshua and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.” (John 19:33) He is our sacrifice... “But he was wounded because of our sins, Crushed because of our iniquities. He bore the chastisement that made us whole, And by his bruises we were healed. We all went astray like sheep, Each going his own way; And the LORD visited upon him the guilt of all of us.” (Isaiah 53:5-6) “He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. For you were straying like sheep, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.” (1 Peter 2:24-25) Raised from the dead... “For You will not abandon me to Sheol, or let Your faithful one see the pit.” (Psalm 16:10) “Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen from the dead.” (Luke 24:5-6) all has been refuted, this is not the thread for such debate, you are welcome to visit one of many jesus bashing threads. |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . what first century church. Christ didn't create it. Yes people followed along an Paul completely fucked up everything. He was the worst enemy in fact, he so screwed it up. You have no idea what people did then, but you can assume similar to modern movements of various sorts. What do you do communion? What he did was not communion either as practiced. and understand beloved LUKE never met Jesus. He came afterwards and recorded the stories he was told…. You are free to worship as you wish. Jesus demonstrated life with God. What happened afterwards was anything but and continues to be that way. When you label your self anything other than I AM THAT I AM, you are a follower and you dilute the God experience. rome created it |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57951334 United States05/20/2014 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they own you. Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 they invented what you believe in. they don't care if are of different denominations, since they made em up too - divide and conquer. they don't care if you are nondenominational cause you still believe in their lie. they don't believe in what they made up... cause they made it up.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274006 Israel05/20/2014 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. The new test was not written in Hebrew the language of all the Holy Bibiical books but the greek language of the Hellenists traitors. No Jewish Holy books wore or would be ever written in greek except for the Septuagint (first Bible translation) which The Greek king ordered the sages to write or die read about that here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramai)cwas the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targums). In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo’s account of the LXX’s miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Test writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting jc doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers could not read the original Hebrew Bible so they had to built the new test from the greek translation the writers of the new test obviously were not to smart A language no Holy Hebrew wrote their Torah books in in any |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24085560 United States05/20/2014 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zechariah 12:9,10 " When that day comes, I shall set myself to destroy all the nations who advance against Jerusalem . but over the House of David and the citizens of Jerusalem I will pour out a spirit of kindness and prayer . They will look on the one whom they have pierced; they will mourn for Him as for an only son, and weep for him as people weep for a first born child " |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57933207 United States05/20/2014 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots .  and for good reason… --------------- Eric Phelps on the Jesuits - Vatican Assassins ( part 2 ) [link to youtu.be] Mae Brussell - Opus Dei, Knights Of Malta, Vatican Death Squads. [link to youtu.be] |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they own you. Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 they invented what you believe in. they don't care if are of different denominations, since they made em up too - divide and conquer. they don't care if you are nondenominational cause you still believe in their lie. they don't believe in what they made up... cause they made it up. you mad? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 746787  Canada05/20/2014 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . There were no jews back then. Jew is a Khazarian term. Hebrews, Judeans, Issi-ra-elites but no jews |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274981 United States05/20/2014 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Messiah has Come - Jesus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58274981 To be born in Bethlehem... “And you, O Bethlehem of Ephrath, Least among the clans of Judah, From you one shall come forth To rule Israel for Me -- One whose origin is from of old, From ancient times.” (Micah 5:1) “And he demanded of them where Messiah should be born, and they said to him, In Bethlehem of Judaea.” (Matthew 2:4-5) Son of God... Let me tell of the decree: the L-rd said to me, "You are My son, I have fathered you this day.” (Psalm 2:7) “For G-d so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” (John 3:15) Of the Tribe of Judah... “The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor the ruler's staff from between his feet; So that tribute shall come to him; And the homage of peoples be his.” (Genesis 49:10) “Our L-rd was descended from Judah.” (Hebrews 7:14) Born of a virgin... “Assuredly, my Lord will give you a sign of His own accord! Look, the young woman is with child and about to give birth to a son. Let her name him Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14) “...she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.” (Matthew 1:18) A Navi like Moshe... “The L-rd your G-d will raise up for you a prophet from among your own people, like myself; him you shall heed.” (Deuteronomy 18:15) “If you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me.” (John 5:46) King of Israel “Rejoice greatly, Fair Zion; Raise a shout, Fair Jerusalem! Lo, your king is coming to you. He is victorious, triumphant, Yet humble, riding on an ass, a donkey foaled by a she-ass.” (Zechariah 9:9) “So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the L-rd, even the King of Israel!”(John 12:13) Rejected... “He was despised, shunned by men, A man of suffering, familiar with disease. As one who hid his face from us, He was despised, we held him of no account.” (Isaiah 53:3) “He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.” (John 1:11) Beaten... “Now you gash yourself in grief. They have laid siege to us; They strike the ruler of Israel On the cheek with a staff.” (Micah 4:14) “And they were striking his head with a reed and spitting on him and kneeling down in homage to him.” (Mark 15:19) Silent... “He was maltreated, yet he was submissive, He did not open his mouth; Like a sheep being led to slaughter, Like a ewe, dumb before those who shear her, He did not open his mouth.” (Isaiah 53:7) “But when he was accused by the chief priests and elders, he gave no answer.” (Matthew 27:12) Betrayed... “My ally in whom I trusted, even he who shares my bread, has been utterly false to me.” (Psalm 41:10) “Yeshua said, Truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me, one who is eating with me.” (Mark 14:18) Tried and Condemned... “By oppressive judgment he was taken away, Who could describe his abode? For he was cut off from the land of the living, for the sin of my people, who deserved the punishment.” (Isaiah 53:8) “When morning came, all the chief priests and the elders of the people took counsel against Yeshua to put him to death.” (Matthew 27:1) Crucified... “Dogs surround me; a pack of evil ones closes in on me, like lions they maul my hands and feet.” (Psalm 22:17) “And he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called the place of a skull.” (John 19:17) Garments divided... “They divide my clothes among themselves, casting lots for my garments.” (Psalm 22:19) “Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Yeshua, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part.” (John 19:23) Given vinegar and gall... “They give me gall for food, vinegar to quench my thirst.” (Psalm 69:22) “A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth.” (John 19:29) Bones not broken... “...and you shall not break any of its bones.” (Exodus 12:46) “But when they came to Yeshua and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.” (John 19:33) He is our sacrifice... “But he was wounded because of our sins, Crushed because of our iniquities. He bore the chastisement that made us whole, And by his bruises we were healed. We all went astray like sheep, Each going his own way; And the LORD visited upon him the guilt of all of us.” (Isaiah 53:5-6) “He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. For you were straying like sheep, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.” (1 Peter 2:24-25) Raised from the dead... “For You will not abandon me to Sheol, or let Your faithful one see the pit.” (Psalm 16:10) “Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen from the dead.” (Luke 24:5-6) all has been refuted, this is not the thread for such debate, you are welcome to visit one of many jesus bashing threads. Refuted by whom .... mere men who are blind.... Jesus is the messiah.... and will reign again in the New Jerusalem... I see you there with a big smile on my face |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zechariah 12:9,10 Quoting: fullfaith " When that day comes, I shall set myself to destroy all the nations who advance against Jerusalem . but over the House of David and the citizens of Jerusalem I will pour out a spirit of kindness and prayer . They will look on the one whom they have pierced; they will mourn for Him as for an only son, and weep for him as people weep for a first born child " also refuted. visit my many other bashing jesus bashing threads. this thread is not about the validity of jesus. but the validity of Christianity, in regards to its creation by rome. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24085560 United States05/20/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. The new test was not written in Hebrew the language of all the Holy Bibiical books but the greek language of the Hellenists traitors. No Jewish Holy books wore or would be ever written in greek except for the Septuagint (first Bible translation) which The Greek king ordered the sages to write or die read about that here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramai)cwas the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targums). In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo’s account of the LXX’s miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Test writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting jc doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers could not read the original Hebrew Bible so they had to built the new test from the greek translation the writers of the new test obviously were not to smart A language no Holy Hebrew wrote their Torah books in in any Huh? The early church did not use the texts of which you are referring to . The virgin first century church is the subject . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57933207 United States05/20/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. The new test was not written in Hebrew the language of all the Holy Bibiical books but the greek language of the Hellenists traitors. No Jewish Holy books wore or would be ever written in greek except for the Septuagint (first Bible translation) which The Greek king ordered the sages to write or die read about that here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramai)cwas the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targums). In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo’s account of the LXX’s miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Test writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting jc doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers could not read the original Hebrew Bible so they had to built the new test from the greek translation the writers of the new test obviously were not to smart A language no Holy Hebrew wrote their Torah books in in any an interesting bias… but I am going with Professor Veith and other former atheists on this one… they seems more thorough and less biased, having researched the truth before believing what someone told them… the first three were atheists: yt: Lee Strobel - The Case for the Resurrection [link to www.youtube.com] yt: The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict [link to www.youtube.com] yt: Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught [link to www.youtube.com] youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB [link to youtu.be] yt: The Forbidden Book - History of The English Bible (Documentary Film) [link to www.youtube.com] yt: A Lamp In The Dark:untold history of Bible ~ Full Film [link to www.youtube.com] yt: Caesar's Messiah Debunked - Joseph Atwill's Covert Messiah Refuted [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] YT: Nephilim: TRUE STORY of Satan, Fallen Angels, Giants, Aliens, Hybrids, Elongated Skulls & Nephilim [link to youtu.be] |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. The new test was not written in Hebrew the language of all the Holy Bibiical books but the greek language of the Hellenists traitors. No Jewish Holy books wore or would be ever written in greek except for the Septuagint (first Bible translation) which The Greek king ordered the sages to write or die read about that here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramai)cwas the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targums). In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo’s account of the LXX’s miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Test writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting jc doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers could not read the original Hebrew Bible so they had to built the new test from the greek translation the writers of the new test obviously were not to smart A language no Holy Hebrew wrote their Torah books in in any Huh? The early church did not use the texts of which you are referring to . The virgin first century church is the subject . that mythological bunch who were reported only by paid roman historians? to add validity and authenticity to their scam? LOL |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274981 United States05/20/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zechariah 12:9,10 Quoting: fullfaith " When that day comes, I shall set myself to destroy all the nations who advance against Jerusalem . but over the House of David and the citizens of Jerusalem I will pour out a spirit of kindness and prayer . They will look on the one whom they have pierced; they will mourn for Him as for an only son, and weep for him as people weep for a first born child " Come Lord Jesus |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24085560 United States05/20/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zechariah 12:9,10 Quoting: fullfaith " When that day comes, I shall set myself to destroy all the nations who advance against Jerusalem . but over the House of David and the citizens of Jerusalem I will pour out a spirit of kindness and prayer . They will look on the one whom they have pierced; they will mourn for Him as for an only son, and weep for him as people weep for a first born child " also refuted. visit my many other bashing jesus bashing threads. this thread is not about the validity of jesus. but the validity of Christianity, in regards to its creation by rome. Ok my friend , but I pray that you will know that Love .  |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. The new test was not written in Hebrew the language of all the Holy Bibiical books but the greek language of the Hellenists traitors. No Jewish Holy books wore or would be ever written in greek except for the Septuagint (first Bible translation) which The Greek king ordered the sages to write or die read about that here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramai)cwas the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targums). In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo’s account of the LXX’s miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Test writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting jc doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers could not read the original Hebrew Bible so they had to built the new test from the greek translation the writers of the new test obviously were not to smart A language no Holy Hebrew wrote their Torah books in in any an interesting bias… but I am going with Professor Veith and other former atheists on this one… they seems more thorough and less biased, having researched the truth before believing what someone told them… the first three were atheists: yt: Lee Strobel - The Case for the Resurrection [link to www.youtube.com] yt: The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict [link to www.youtube.com] yt: Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught [link to www.youtube.com] youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB [link to youtu.be] yt: The Forbidden Book - History of The English Bible (Documentary Film) [link to www.youtube.com] yt: A Lamp In The Dark:untold history of Bible ~ Full Film [link to www.youtube.com] yt: Caesar's Messiah Debunked - Joseph Atwill's Covert Messiah Refuted [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] YT: Nephilim: TRUE STORY of Satan, Fallen Angels, Giants, Aliens, Hybrids, Elongated Skulls & Nephilim [link to youtu.be] typical Christian... avoid the subject at hand and hold on to other straws to rescue you. |
| Azadok61 User ID: 48171460 United States05/20/2014 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they own you. Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 they invented what you believe in. they don't care if are of different denominations, since they made em up too - divide and conquer. they don't care if you are nondenominational cause you still believe in their lie. they don't believe in what they made up... cause they made it up. They invented Christianity , man do you show your ignorance in both history, your own torah , writings and prophets . Rome and the catholic church did not come about until 300 years after Christ . The first Christians would be what I would call messianic Jews of today as they followed the feasts faithfully but did away with the blood sacrifices because Jesus had become our Passover and apportion for sins . The roman catholic church perverted true Christianity as It is to this day , we are to celebrate all the major feast days of the bible as written in the law of Moses, minus the animal sacrifices . Last Edited by Azadok61 on 05/20/2014 09:12 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274981 United States05/20/2014 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zechariah 12:9,10 Quoting: fullfaith " When that day comes, I shall set myself to destroy all the nations who advance against Jerusalem . but over the House of David and the citizens of Jerusalem I will pour out a spirit of kindness and prayer . They will look on the one whom they have pierced; they will mourn for Him as for an only son, and weep for him as people weep for a first born child " also refuted. visit my many other bashing jesus bashing threads. this thread is not about the validity of jesus. but the validity of Christianity, in regards to its creation by rome. True rome twisted Christianity.... But the early church of Jesus true followers who were Jews witness the messiah who was and is to come |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274006 Israel05/20/2014 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . and for good reason… --------------- Eric Phelps on the Jesuits - Vatican Assassins ( part 2 ) [link to youtu.be] Mae Brussell - Opus Dei, Knights Of Malta, Vatican Death Squads. [link to youtu.be] yea because the other side convinced you to throw away all Gods ways he gave in to connect to him in the Bible like the Fun festivals and Sabbath and have you worship a dead guy you think is god who got himself killed to atone for you wtf God aside and worship a |
| Shamar User ID: 1447904 United States05/20/2014 09:13 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they own you. Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 they invented what you believe in. they don't care if are of different denominations, since they made em up too - divide and conquer. they don't care if you are nondenominational cause you still believe in their lie. they don't believe in what they made up... cause they made it up. It's true. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
| Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 58021899 Israel05/20/2014 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they own you. Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 they invented what you believe in. they don't care if are of different denominations, since they made em up too - divide and conquer. they don't care if you are nondenominational cause you still believe in their lie. they don't believe in what they made up... cause they made it up. They invented Christianity , man do you show your ignorance in both history, your own torah , writings and prophets . Rome and the catholic church did not come about until 300 years after Christ . The first Christians would be what I would call messianic Jews of today as they followed the feasts faithfully but did away with the blood sacrifices because Jesus had become our Passover and apportion for sins . The roman catholic church perverted true Christianity as It is to this day , we are to celebrait all the major feast days of the bible as written in e law of Moses minus the animal sacrifices . first Christians were high ranking romans such as the flavian family. early messianic jews were not the first chrisitans... only in myth, the real ones became Christians after they read the circulated gospels or heard the rumors the roman paid shills were spreading. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274006 Israel05/20/2014 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true here OP . I try to follow the first century church as closely as possible . Quoting: fullfaith We meet in homes with singing , worship , prayer and communion . "So then those who received His word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. " Acts2:41,42 There was simplicity , no tradition, no church constitution and by laws , no programs , no senior pastor , no Roman Church , no board of elders , no splinter group . You are painting all with an incorrect broad stroke . Oh , I forgot to add that many of them were Jewish . The church has thrown away its Jewish roots . you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. The new test was not written in Hebrew the language of all the Holy Bibiical books but the greek language of the Hellenists traitors. No Jewish Holy books wore or would be ever written in greek except for the Septuagint (first Bible translation) which The Greek king ordered the sages to write or die read about that here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramai)cwas the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targums). In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo’s account of the LXX’s miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Test writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting jc doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers could not read the original Hebrew Bible so they had to built the new test from the greek translation the writers of the new test obviously were not to smart A language no Holy Hebrew wrote their Torah books in in any Huh? The early church did not use the texts of which you are referring to . The virgin first century church is the subject . The origin of Christianity is being discussed here , that is reflected in the new TESTment and it aint Jewish of the Hebrew People It is based on a Greek text of the Bible |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58274006 Israel05/20/2014 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 you mean jews who bought the roman lies. the original jesus movement never existed. only in false rumors and myths told decades later. The new test was not written in Hebrew the language of all the Holy Bibiical books but the greek language of the Hellenists traitors. No Jewish Holy books wore or would be ever written in greek except for the Septuagint (first Bible translation) which The Greek king ordered the sages to write or die read about that here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramai)cwas the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targums). In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo’s account of the LXX’s miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Test writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting jc doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers could not read the original Hebrew Bible so they had to built the new test from the greek translation the writers of the new test obviously were not to smart A language no Holy Hebrew wrote their Torah books in in any Huh? The early church did not use the texts of which you are referring to . The virgin first century church is the subject . that mythological bunch who were reported only by paid roman historians? to add validity and authenticity to their scam? LOL |
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