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Fukushima Update: MASSIVE FAILURE AT FUKUSHIMA. p53

 
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Checking out all the live webcams in Japan now. There's a pink haze over almost EVERY area I've seen so far. A THICK pink haze.
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They'll be calling you a radical ..... again

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Um, I think you need to watch this!
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They'll be calling you a radical ..... again

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Um, I think you need to watch this!
 Quoting: Chugiakian


siren2siren2siren2
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So...

Is this the end game? Is it totally out of control now?

How long before we're inhaling radioactive particles?
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So...

Is this the end game? Is it totally out of control now?

How long before we're inhaling radioactive particles?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58322525


the beginning…. its like not going to go away for some 20,000 years~ long after our children's children get fuk'd too!
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That vid with the worker in the hazmat suit pointing his finger at the camera...

The detector badge on his chest is black...doesn't that mean he's a walking dead man???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 929762


They are using the ancient, shitty kind of dosimeter so yes, when they see the dosimeter turn black, they get the hell out as fast as possible. Black means a lethal dose, but those old dosimeters are only partially reliable anyway. I have believed I was going to die a couple different times after noticing my black rad tag......only to find out later the tag just sucked.

That's was the day I realized what Churchhill meant when he said "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." he he he! Ice water that mans veins, I swear.......

They need to be using the better Thermoluminescent Dosimeters or TLD's there at Fukushima but, then again, the government now is in control of Tepco, which runs Fukushima plant, and they’ve allowed the use of contract workers, through the Yakuza.

So the government is actually in business with the Yakuza, allowing the Yakuza to bring in these workers, and we heard a report that many are not even being registered when they go into the plant so they’re not entitled to health care and also when they get sick and over-doses you can’t tell because they haven’t been registered, these are the contract workers at the plant. These workers are basically being used as cannon fodder. Some of them are not only day laborers but also immigrant workers who are being used as well to clean up the plant.
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I forgot to mention that there have been over 800 confirmed deaths among the REGISTERED workers, when Yakuza has been supplying most of the workers the whole time, all UN-REGISTERED.

Im not a gambling man, but id say the death count is much, much higher than reported. These Jap TEPCO bastards need to be exiled to live out their lives in Chernobyl with those damned radiation created Hulk-Wolves......

An eye for an eye only serves to make the world blind, though. ~sigh~
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That vid with the worker in the hazmat suit pointing his finger at the camera...

The detector badge on his chest is black...doesn't that mean he's a walking dead man???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 929762


They are using the ancient, shitty kind of dosimeter so yes, when they see the dosimeter turn black, they get the hell out as fast as possible. Black means a lethal dose, but those old dosimeters are only partially reliable anyway. I have believed I was going to die a couple different times after noticing my black rad tag......only to find out later the tag just sucked.

That's was the day I realized what Churchhill meant when he said "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." he he he! Ice water that mans veins, I swear.......

They need to be using the better Thermoluminescent Dosimeters or TLD's there at Fukushima but, then again, the government now is in control of Tepco, which runs Fukushima plant, and they’ve allowed the use of contract workers, through the Yakuza.

So the government is actually in business with the Yakuza, allowing the Yakuza to bring in these workers, and we heard a report that many are not even being registered when they go into the plant so they’re not entitled to health care and also when they get sick and over-doses you can’t tell because they haven’t been registered, these are the contract workers at the plant. These workers are basically being used as cannon fodder. Some of them are not only day laborers but also immigrant workers who are being used as well to clean up the plant.
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I forgot to mention that there have been over 800 confirmed deaths among the REGISTERED workers, when Yakuza has been supplying most of the workers the whole time, all UN-REGISTERED.

Im not a gambling man, but id say the death count is much, much higher than reported. These Jap TEPCO bastards need to be exiled to live out their lives in Chernobyl with those damned radiation created Hulk-Wolves......

An eye for an eye only serves to make the world blind, though. ~sigh~
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Wish this wasn't true, but i am afraid it will get much worse.
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Hidekatsu Yoshii, a member of the House of Representatives for Japanese Communist Party and an anti-nuclear campaigner, warned in March and October 2006 about the possibility of the severe damage that might be caused by a tsunami or earthquake.

During a parliamentary committee in May 2010 he made similar claims, warning that the cooling systems of a Japanese nuclear plant could be destroyed by a landslide or earthquake.

In response Yoshinobu Terasaka, head of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, replied that the plants were so well designed that "such a situation is practically impossible..

WELL? it took an communist to tell them it was going FAIL?
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Hidekatsu Yoshii, a member of the House of Representatives for Japanese Communist Party and an anti-nuclear campaigner, warned in March and October 2006 about the possibility of the severe damage that might be caused by a tsunami or earthquake.

During a parliamentary committee in May 2010 he made similar claims, warning that the cooling systems of a Japanese nuclear plant could be destroyed by a landslide or earthquake.

In response Yoshinobu Terasaka, head of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, replied that the plants were so well designed that "such a situation is practically impossible..

WELL? it took an communist to tell them it was going FAIL?
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We should make these nuclear supporters go in and clean up this FUK'N mess!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25936196


That's what I figure, as it goes with the gag order, disinformation, etc.
And if not, if Fuku is cool, why the secrecy? You would think a corp that is responsible to the people of a nation that elected a government that makes laws to protect them would be cooperating in a situation such as the one Tepco is in.
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TEPCO is not in a 'situation'.

We are.
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Checking out all the live webcams in Japan now. There's a pink haze over almost EVERY area I've seen so far. A THICK pink haze.
 Quoting: Listen_n


THAT, most likely, means that radioactive Iodine-123 is also being released in large amounts. A chemical reaction occurs when it hits oxygen that creates a pink haze. If you were there, you would also smell a horrible sulfer smell, another by-product.

Iodine-123 in ONE of several iodines that cause major thyroid damage with very little inhaled.

Good news is its half-life is only around 9 hrs.

Im much more concerned about whats being released that doesnt leave a tell-tale, and iodine-123 is as harmless as table salt compared to the other things stored at Fuku.
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That's what I figure, as it goes with the gag order, disinformation, etc.
And if not, if Fuku is cool, why the secrecy? You would think a corp that is responsible to the people of a nation that elected a government that makes laws to protect them would be cooperating in a situation such as the one Tepco is in.
 Quoting: M1.618


TEPCO is not in a 'situation'.

We are.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


Yea, situation 'CRITICAL'!
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So...

Is this the end game? Is it totally out of control now?

How long before we're inhaling radioactive particles?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58322525


Check out my latest post, I addressed this.
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Let me let you all in on something that will show the extent of TEPCOs coverup of the situation at the Fukushima site.

During the 1986 Chernobyl meltdown, they released to the PUBLIC Infrared SPOT satellite images that clearly showed the billowing plumes of hot particles coming from the facility. this showed the radiation clouds that were INVISIBLE TO NORMAL OPTICAL CAMERAS AND THE HUMAN EYE.

That was with technology that is now a quarter of century old.
[link to www.sciencephoto.com]

TEPCO and the JAPANESE government along with the worlds top governments are purposely holding back such imagery of the fukushima site, to this very day.

You wont see infra-red imagery because its classified secret, in order to avoid panic, and evacuations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47302730


Thank you for reminding everybody of this. In the early days of the Fuku webcam, it was possible to see with the trained naked eye, plumes (for lack of a better word) like the visible distortions, similar to what film had captured at Chernobyl. Then they changed their cameras, filters, locations, etc and the destruction became harder to detect.

They are clearly suppressing the visual proof of what is going on there.

dribble
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Checking out all the live webcams in Japan now. There's a pink haze over almost EVERY area I've seen so far. A THICK pink haze.
 Quoting: Listen_n


THAT, most likely, means that radioactive Iodine-123 is also being released in large amounts. A chemical reaction occurs when it hits oxygen that creates a pink haze. If you were there, you would also smell a horrible sulfer smell, another by-product.

Iodine-123 in ONE of several iodines that cause major thyroid damage with very little inhaled.

Good news is its half-life is only around 9 hrs.

Im much more concerned about whats being released that doesnt leave a tell-tale, and iodine-123 is as harmless as table salt compared to the other things stored at Fuku.
 Quoting: SenterSun


So, that's one particle out of how many???
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I'm also curious about the MOX fuel..

reactor 3 or 4? how would we objectively know if TEPCO is lying or not?

because I wouldn't be surprised if Pu was already released during the initial explosion.
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Checking out all the live webcams in Japan now. There's a pink haze over almost EVERY area I've seen so far. A THICK pink haze.
 Quoting: Listen_n


THAT, most likely, means that radioactive Iodine-123 is also being released in large amounts. A chemical reaction occurs when it hits oxygen that creates a pink haze. If you were there, you would also smell a horrible sulfer smell, another by-product.

Iodine-123 in ONE of several iodines that cause major thyroid damage with very little inhaled.

Good news is its half-life is only around 9 hrs.

Im much more concerned about whats being released that doesnt leave a tell-tale, and iodine-123 is as harmless as table salt compared to the other things stored at Fuku.
 Quoting: SenterSun


So, that's one particle out of how many???
 Quoting: Chugiakian


Unfortunately, most likely several hundred. Have you ever seen 'the rock' with Sean Connery?
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so there are MOX fuel rods in the spent fuel pool of #4?

just sitting there?
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LOU512 this is mentioned right on the wiki article, surprised I never picked up on this

"Unlike the other five reactor units, reactor 3 ran on mixed core, containing both uranium fuel and mixed uranium and plutonium oxide, or MOX fuel"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I'm also curious about the MOX fuel..

reactor 3 or 4? how would we objectively know if TEPCO is lying or not?

because I wouldn't be surprised if Pu was already released during the initial explosion.
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


and we know just 1 particle of plutonium is a death sentence.....
just one.....and that dilution idea just means those particles are all freaking spread out over this planet.

what is the 1/2 life of plutonium?
does it matter if you know or not???????

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LOU512 this is mentioned right on the wiki article, surprised I never picked up on this

"Unlike the other five reactor units, reactor 3 ran on mixed core, containing both uranium fuel and mixed uranium and plutonium oxide, or MOX fuel"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


This has really bothered me mox rods in sfp4 ..one drops….

our governments have lied since day 1, they will never tell us how bad it is until it is too late…

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I am having an irony overload from you posting this here
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I'm also curious about the MOX fuel..

reactor 3 or 4? how would we objectively know if TEPCO is lying or not?

because I wouldn't be surprised if Pu was already released during the initial explosion.
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This is why they didn't want the Russians to help!
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Let me let you all in on something that will show the extent of TEPCOs coverup of the situation at the Fukushima site.

During the 1986 Chernobyl meltdown, they released to the PUBLIC Infrared SPOT satellite images that clearly showed the billowing plumes of hot particles coming from the facility. this showed the radiation clouds that were INVISIBLE TO NORMAL OPTICAL CAMERAS AND THE HUMAN EYE.

That was with technology that is now a quarter of century old.
[link to www.sciencephoto.com]

TEPCO and the JAPANESE government along with the worlds top governments are purposely holding back such imagery of the fukushima site, to this very day.

You wont see infra-red imagery because its classified secret, in order to avoid panic, and evacuations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47302730


Thank you for reminding everybody of this. In the early days of the Fuku webcam, it was possible to see with the trained naked eye, plumes (for lack of a better word) like the visible distortions, similar to what film had captured at Chernobyl. Then they changed their cameras, filters, locations, etc and the destruction became harder to detect.

They are clearly suppressing the visual proof of what is going on there.

dribble
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46398732


here's a link to EOSDIS worldview of Japan

[link to earthdata.nasa.gov (secure)]

it's possible to zoom in above the plant, and it has many different layers on the sidebar to the left that may help determine what's happening there (thermal layers etc.)

description page: [link to earthdata.nasa.gov (secure)]

Interactively browse and download full-resolution, global, near real-time satellite imagery from 100+ data products from LANCE and other NASA data providers.

In essence, Worldview shows the entire Earth as it looks "right now" - or at least as it has looked within the past few hours. Worldview supports time-critical application areas such as wildfire management, air quality measurements, and weather forecasting.

The imagery is generally available within three hours of observation and can easily be compared to observations from the past - just click or drag the time sliders at the bottom of the page. Imagery is available from May 2012 onward and we are working to provide access to earlier dates. Arctic and Antarctic polar stereographic views of several products are also available for a "full globe" perspective.

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so there are MOX fuel rods in the spent fuel pool of #4?

just sitting there?
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If I remember correctly I think there were 1500 rods in SPF4 and Tepco has been removing them since last October. No word on progress though.
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