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This thread reveals the main thing that's wrong with the world when it comes to Fukushima: Nobody cares.

It's like three people posting back and forth while everyone else ignores it completely.

I hope the few who are really paying attention watch the movie, "Seeking a Friend for the End of the World" because it seems to be prophetic, things are literally going down just like in that movie and it's shocking and scaring me.


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It is truly astonishing…..
we three, are showing the atrocities, while the rest of the world sleeps…

The ones who are paying attention cannot be heard over the roar of life as it passes by, nobody is listening.
They pretend to care, but go on as if it doesn't matter. Or it is perceived that there is nothing that can be done, which is exactly what led to the situation at hand…

Sitting with legs crossed, in a meditative state, does not change reality, it is run over by it.

I will seek this movie out and watch

Thanks, for stopping and at least acknowledging the situation.
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This thread reveals the main thing that's wrong with the world when it comes to Fukushima: Nobody cares.

It's like three people posting back and forth while everyone else ignores it completely.

I hope the few who are really paying attention watch the movie, "Seeking a Friend for the End of the World" because it seems to be prophetic, things are literally going down just like in that movie and it's shocking and scaring me.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1721067


It is truly astonishing…..
we three, are showing the atrocities, while the rest of the world sleeps…

The ones who are paying attention cannot be heard over the roar of life as it passes by, nobody is listening.
They pretend to care, but go on as if it doesn't matter. Or it is perceived that there is nothing that can be done, which is exactly what led to the situation at hand…

Sitting with legs crossed, in a meditative state, does not change reality, it is run over by it.

I will seek this movie out and watch

Thanks, for stopping and at least acknowledging the situation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


If there is nothing that can be done...why worry people? I care, but what can I do? What can you do...except bring others into our misery? They'll find out when they find out...nothing will stop that...then they will care...but it is already too late...

No one wants to face a soon to be fatal, unsolvable problem head on...
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As long as the people can't see, taste, hear or smell radiation, nothing is going to get them out of their safe-zone and do something about it!
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This thread reveals the main thing that's wrong with the world when it comes to Fukushima: Nobody cares.

It's like three people posting back and forth while everyone else ignores it completely.

I hope the few who are really paying attention watch the movie, "Seeking a Friend for the End of the World" because it seems to be prophetic, things are literally going down just like in that movie and it's shocking and scaring me.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1721067


It is truly astonishing…..
we three, are showing the atrocities, while the rest of the world sleeps…

The ones who are paying attention cannot be heard over the roar of life as it passes by, nobody is listening.
They pretend to care, but go on as if it doesn't matter. Or it is perceived that there is nothing that can be done, which is exactly what led to the situation at hand…

Sitting with legs crossed, in a meditative state, does not change reality, it is run over by it.

I will seek this movie out and watch

Thanks, for stopping and at least acknowledging the situation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


If there is nothing that can be done...why worry people? I care, but what can I do? What can you do...except bring others into our misery? They'll find out when they find out...nothing will stop that...then they will care...but it is already too late...

No one wants to face a soon to be fatal, unsolvable problem head on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


That's a preposterous statement.... If I had said that at the outset i would call myself an epic fail..... yes... we may be able to do little.... but what little we can do is keep informing as best we can.... google my site.. it's front page google for nearly 3 years... if there was no interest that wouldn't be the case now would it... keep your head in the sand, smile and think you are safe.. the japanese bullshit has you beat....

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This thread reveals the main thing that's wrong with the world when it comes to Fukushima: Nobody cares.

It's like three people posting back and forth while everyone else ignores it completely.

I hope the few who are really paying attention watch the movie, "Seeking a Friend for the End of the World" because it seems to be prophetic, things are literally going down just like in that movie and it's shocking and scaring me.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1721067


It is truly astonishing…..
we three, are showing the atrocities, while the rest of the world sleeps…

The ones who are paying attention cannot be heard over the roar of life as it passes by, nobody is listening.
They pretend to care, but go on as if it doesn't matter. Or it is perceived that there is nothing that can be done, which is exactly what led to the situation at hand…

Sitting with legs crossed, in a meditative state, does not change reality, it is run over by it.

I will seek this movie out and watch

Thanks, for stopping and at least acknowledging the situation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


If there is nothing that can be done...why worry people? I care, but what can I do? What can you do...except bring others into our misery? They'll find out when they find out...nothing will stop that...then they will care...but it is already too late...

No one wants to face a soon to be fatal, unsolvable problem head on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


That's a preposterous statement.... If I had said that at the outset i would call myself an epic fail..... yes... we may be able to do little.... but what little we can do is keep informing as best we can.... google my site.. it's front page google for nearly 3 years... if there was no interest that wouldn't be the case now would it... keep your head in the sand, smile and think you are safe.. the japanese bullshit has you beat....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


What have you done...except scare more people? How does that help anyone? If you were leading calls to storm Tepco or GE headquarters...maybe we would have revenge...that that's all there is for us...at best revenge...for there is no salvation from this.

You misunderstand. I know this is bad. ELE bad, probably. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Telling everyone they are gonna die is pointless...we were all gonna die anyway or something else...

Cry out, Cassandra, cry out...if you must...but...if nothing can be done...what's the point again?

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I read all your threads about the crisis...but there are no answers...just crisis...
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A bit unrelated, but I'm a bit confused about why I've not seen mention of the huge hole in the atmosphere in the pacific. There is a severe lack of oxygen over a pretty vast area.

I didn't find much information about this so far, but from some records I managed to find a while ago, I simply couldn't see any evidence indicating the massive hole and it's extent up to and including 2008. I couldn't find any records beyond that other than the reports actually indicating that there's a huge hole.

It may not be directly related to fukushima (though I'd guess it's highly unlikely it's had no effect at all) it is another concern and possibly relevant consequence, to some degree.

If I had to guess about anthropogenic factors, I'd have to say that nuke testing, general pollution from south east asia and fukushima contributed to it.
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Look Familiar?

Leukemia - Topic Overview
Leukemia is cancer of the blood cells. It starts in the bone marrow, the soft tissue inside most bones. Bone marrow is where blood cells are made.

White blood cells help your body fight infection.
Red blood cells carry oxygen to all parts of your body.
Platelets help your blood clot.
When you have leukemia, the bone marrow starts to make a lot of abnormal white blood cells, called leukemia cells. They don't do the work of normal white blood cells. They grow faster than normal cells, and they don't stop growing when they should.

Over time, leukemia cells can crowd out the normal blood cells. This can lead to serious problems such as anemia, bleeding, and infections. Leukemia cells can also spread to the lymph nodes or other organs and cause swelling or pain.

There are several different types of leukemia. In general, leukemia is grouped by how fast it gets worse and what kind of white blood cell it affects.

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Experts don't know what causes leukemia. Some things may increase your risk, such as being exposed to large amounts of radiation and being exposed to certain chemicals at work, such as benzene.

Symptoms may depend on what type of leukemia you have, but common symptoms include:

A new lump or swollen gland in your neck, under your arm, or in your groin.
Frequent nosebleeds, bleeding from the gums or rectum, more frequent bruising, or very heavy menstrual bleeding.
Frequent fevers.
Night sweats.
Bone pain.
Unexplained appetite loss or recent weight loss.
Feeling tired a lot without a known reason.
Swelling and pain on the left side of the belly.

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This thread reveals the main thing that's wrong with the world when it comes to Fukushima: Nobody cares.

It's like three people posting back and forth while everyone else ignores it completely.

I hope the few who are really paying attention watch the movie, "Seeking a Friend for the End of the World" because it seems to be prophetic, things are literally going down just like in that movie and it's shocking and scaring me.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1721067


It is truly astonishing…..
we three, are showing the atrocities, while the rest of the world sleeps…

The ones who are paying attention cannot be heard over the roar of life as it passes by, nobody is listening.
They pretend to care, but go on as if it doesn't matter. Or it is perceived that there is nothing that can be done, which is exactly what led to the situation at hand…

Sitting with legs crossed, in a meditative state, does not change reality, it is run over by it.

I will seek this movie out and watch

Thanks, for stopping and at least acknowledging the situation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


If there is nothing that can be done...why worry people? I care, but what can I do? What can you do...except bring others into our misery? They'll find out when they find out...nothing will stop that...then they will care...but it is already too late...

No one wants to face a soon to be fatal, unsolvable problem head on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


That's a preposterous statement.... If I had said that at the outset i would call myself an epic fail..... yes... we may be able to do little.... but what little we can do is keep informing as best we can.... google my site.. it's front page google for nearly 3 years... if there was no interest that wouldn't be the case now would it... keep your head in the sand, smile and think you are safe.. the japanese bullshit has you beat....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


You, sir, are mistaking taking about something for taking action against that thing. It's call narcolyzing disfunction....or some such...

Here's a question: Does talking about radiation remediate it in any meaningful way?
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It is truly astonishing…..
we three, are showing the atrocities, while the rest of the world sleeps…

The ones who are paying attention cannot be heard over the roar of life as it passes by, nobody is listening.
They pretend to care, but go on as if it doesn't matter. Or it is perceived that there is nothing that can be done, which is exactly what led to the situation at hand…

Sitting with legs crossed, in a meditative state, does not change reality, it is run over by it.

I will seek this movie out and watch

Thanks, for stopping and at least acknowledging the situation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


If there is nothing that can be done...why worry people? I care, but what can I do? What can you do...except bring others into our misery? They'll find out when they find out...nothing will stop that...then they will care...but it is already too late...

No one wants to face a soon to be fatal, unsolvable problem head on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


That's a preposterous statement.... If I had said that at the outset i would call myself an epic fail..... yes... we may be able to do little.... but what little we can do is keep informing as best we can.... google my site.. it's front page google for nearly 3 years... if there was no interest that wouldn't be the case now would it... keep your head in the sand, smile and think you are safe.. the japanese bullshit has you beat....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


You, sir, are mistaking taking about something for taking action against that thing. It's call narcolyzing disfunction....or some such...

Here's a question: Does talking about radiation remediate it in any meaningful way?
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"does talking about mustard gas do the same thing".. no...

informing people about what they can do to mitigate affects is also a different thing... as is informing people as to what the current situation is... it is up to them to make decisions based on these facts....
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It's currently raining here in Chugiak Alaska and I have been monitoring the Radiation levels off and on for over 8 months here.

Average between 21-24 CPM outside on my back porch…….

Weather: Currently raining 53 degrees f

Geiger Readings TODAY……
Within the first minute it spiked at 55 CPM!!!

10 minute measure
High 55CPM
Average 44
Low 36

Toxic Rain!
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It's currently raining here in Chugiak Alaska and I have been monitoring the Radiation levels off and on for over 8 months here.

Average between 21-24 CPM outside on my back porch…….

Weather: Currently raining 53 degrees f

Geiger Readings TODAY……
Within the first minute it spiked at 55 CPM!!!

10 minute measure
High 55CPM
Average 44
Low 36

Toxic Rain!
siren2
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I figured this, and it is raining here 24/7.
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It's currently raining here in Chugiak Alaska and I have been monitoring the Radiation levels off and on for over 8 months here.

Average between 21-24 CPM outside on my back porch…….

Weather: Currently raining 53 degrees f

Geiger Readings TODAY……
Within the first minute it spiked at 55 CPM!!!

10 minute measure
High 55CPM
Average 44
Low 36

Toxic Rain!
siren2
 Quoting: Chugiakian


I figured this, and it is raining here 24/7.
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for the 3 of us who care….
Thread: ALERT….. Increased Geiger Counter reading in Alaska today
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It is truly astonishing…..
we three, are showing the atrocities, while the rest of the world sleeps…

The ones who are paying attention cannot be heard over the roar of life as it passes by, nobody is listening.
They pretend to care, but go on as if it doesn't matter. Or it is perceived that there is nothing that can be done, which is exactly what led to the situation at hand…

Sitting with legs crossed, in a meditative state, does not change reality, it is run over by it.

I will seek this movie out and watch

Thanks, for stopping and at least acknowledging the situation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


If there is nothing that can be done...why worry people? I care, but what can I do? What can you do...except bring others into our misery? They'll find out when they find out...nothing will stop that...then they will care...but it is already too late...

No one wants to face a soon to be fatal, unsolvable problem head on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


That's a preposterous statement.... If I had said that at the outset i would call myself an epic fail..... yes... we may be able to do little.... but what little we can do is keep informing as best we can.... google my site.. it's front page google for nearly 3 years... if there was no interest that wouldn't be the case now would it... keep your head in the sand, smile and think you are safe.. the japanese bullshit has you beat....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


What have you done...except scare more people? How does that help anyone? If you were leading calls to storm Tepco or GE headquarters...maybe we would have revenge...that that's all there is for us...at best revenge...for there is no salvation from this.

You misunderstand. I know this is bad. ELE bad, probably. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Telling everyone they are gonna die is pointless...we were all gonna die anyway or something else...

Cry out, Cassandra, cry out...if you must...but...if nothing can be done...what's the point again?

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I read all your threads about the crisis...but there are no answers...just crisis...
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There are answers, nobody wants to stand up and yell at the top of their lungs and look like chicken little when all the people look at the lone little alarm bell ringer.
But to be passive, isn't the answer either…..that is what our parents generation have done, we inherited their mess, our children will need to figure it out… Edison invented the light bulb by trying new things, always trying.

The crisis demands action, of some sort…..
what action? anything is better than nothing.

stay safe
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If there is nothing that can be done...why worry people? I care, but what can I do? What can you do...except bring others into our misery? They'll find out when they find out...nothing will stop that...then they will care...but it is already too late...

No one wants to face a soon to be fatal, unsolvable problem head on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


That's a preposterous statement.... If I had said that at the outset i would call myself an epic fail..... yes... we may be able to do little.... but what little we can do is keep informing as best we can.... google my site.. it's front page google for nearly 3 years... if there was no interest that wouldn't be the case now would it... keep your head in the sand, smile and think you are safe.. the japanese bullshit has you beat....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


What have you done...except scare more people? How does that help anyone? If you were leading calls to storm Tepco or GE headquarters...maybe we would have revenge...that that's all there is for us...at best revenge...for there is no salvation from this.

You misunderstand. I know this is bad. ELE bad, probably. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Telling everyone they are gonna die is pointless...we were all gonna die anyway or something else...

Cry out, Cassandra, cry out...if you must...but...if nothing can be done...what's the point again?

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I read all your threads about the crisis...but there are no answers...just crisis...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


There are answers, nobody wants to stand up and yell at the top of their lungs and look like chicken little when all the people look at the lone little alarm bell ringer.
But to be passive, isn't the answer either…..that is what our parents generation have done, we inherited their mess, our children will need to figure it out… Edison invented the light bulb by trying new things, always trying.

The crisis demands action, of some sort…..
what action? anything is better than nothing.

stay safe
 Quoting: Chugiakian


What answers? We have, what over a thousand NPPs all over the world...each one built to last about 25 years...most going on 50 years of operation...with no way to ever get rid of the waste...

This is just the beginning. Our death warrants were signed back in the 50's when they started building these things. Then was the time for action. I mean what kind of imbecile okays a project that will produce waste that has to be cooled or stored safely for thousands of years?

WIPP probably already killed half the population of New Mexico and surrounding areas...they just don't know it yet.

There is no tech to stop melted corium melting into the earth...sooner or later...you're going to get massive hydrovolcanism or corium-magma coming our somewhere...

Nuclear power is our doom. GE has killed us.

Talking about something is not the same as taking action.

As for CP's mustard gas...sure people talking about it got it banned from warefare...but this is different...it's not like we can just dump the nukes and simply forget about them...we use them for war and peace...

Talk all you want. Nothing changes. We all die.

Edison didn't solve all our problems. In fact, life went on without problems before the light bulb (we used candles and oil lamps and daylight)...nobody missed what they didn't have...there is a difference.
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That's a preposterous statement.... If I had said that at the outset i would call myself an epic fail..... yes... we may be able to do little.... but what little we can do is keep informing as best we can.... google my site.. it's front page google for nearly 3 years... if there was no interest that wouldn't be the case now would it... keep your head in the sand, smile and think you are safe.. the japanese bullshit has you beat....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


What have you done...except scare more people? How does that help anyone? If you were leading calls to storm Tepco or GE headquarters...maybe we would have revenge...that that's all there is for us...at best revenge...for there is no salvation from this.

You misunderstand. I know this is bad. ELE bad, probably. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Telling everyone they are gonna die is pointless...we were all gonna die anyway or something else...

Cry out, Cassandra, cry out...if you must...but...if nothing can be done...what's the point again?

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I read all your threads about the crisis...but there are no answers...just crisis...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


There are answers, nobody wants to stand up and yell at the top of their lungs and look like chicken little when all the people look at the lone little alarm bell ringer.
But to be passive, isn't the answer either…..that is what our parents generation have done, we inherited their mess, our children will need to figure it out… Edison invented the light bulb by trying new things, always trying.

The crisis demands action, of some sort…..
what action? anything is better than nothing.

stay safe
 Quoting: Chugiakian


What answers? We have, what over a thousand NPPs all over the world...each one built to last about 25 years...most going on 50 years of operation...with no way to ever get rid of the waste...

This is just the beginning. Our death warrants were signed back in the 50's when they started building these things. Then was the time for action. I mean what kind of imbecile okays a project that will produce waste that has to be cooled or stored safely for thousands of years?

WIPP probably already killed half the population of New Mexico and surrounding areas...they just don't know it yet.

There is no tech to stop melted corium melting into the earth...sooner or later...you're going to get massive hydrovolcanism or corium-magma coming our somewhere...

Nuclear power is our doom. GE has killed us.

Talking about something is not the same as taking action.

As for CP's mustard gas...sure people talking about it got it banned from warefare...but this is different...it's not like we can just dump the nukes and simply forget about them...we use them for war and peace...

Talk all you want. Nothing changes. We all die.

Edison didn't solve all our problems. In fact, life went on without problems before the light bulb (we used candles and oil lamps and daylight)...nobody missed what they didn't have...there is a difference.
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i now see where you are coming from... but defeatism never produces victory.... go where you go... i go where i go... we'll see what may happen.. let the chips fall....

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To tell the world the truth about Fukushima is to free the world of nuclear energy.

It will never be safe for Mother Earth or the world. It has to disappear off the map.

Although, most people would rather bury their heads in the sand, that would not ever stop a nuclear threat.

The only way to make sure for future generations to be free of this nuclear threat is to educate the masses now.

It may be too late for some of us, but we have to think of future generations NOW.

I PUSH for a nuclear free world. That goal has to start somewhere with someone. It will have a ripple effect through time.

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A nuclear free world for our children now!
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What have you done...except scare more people? How does that help anyone? If you were leading calls to storm Tepco or GE headquarters...maybe we would have revenge...that that's all there is for us...at best revenge...for there is no salvation from this.

You misunderstand. I know this is bad. ELE bad, probably. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Telling everyone they are gonna die is pointless...we were all gonna die anyway or something else...

Cry out, Cassandra, cry out...if you must...but...if nothing can be done...what's the point again?

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I read all your threads about the crisis...but there are no answers...just crisis...
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There are answers, nobody wants to stand up and yell at the top of their lungs and look like chicken little when all the people look at the lone little alarm bell ringer.
But to be passive, isn't the answer either…..that is what our parents generation have done, we inherited their mess, our children will need to figure it out… Edison invented the light bulb by trying new things, always trying.

The crisis demands action, of some sort…..
what action? anything is better than nothing.

stay safe
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What answers? We have, what over a thousand NPPs all over the world...each one built to last about 25 years...most going on 50 years of operation...with no way to ever get rid of the waste...

This is just the beginning. Our death warrants were signed back in the 50's when they started building these things. Then was the time for action. I mean what kind of imbecile okays a project that will produce waste that has to be cooled or stored safely for thousands of years?

WIPP probably already killed half the population of New Mexico and surrounding areas...they just don't know it yet.

There is no tech to stop melted corium melting into the earth...sooner or later...you're going to get massive hydrovolcanism or corium-magma coming our somewhere...

Nuclear power is our doom. GE has killed us.

Talking about something is not the same as taking action.

As for CP's mustard gas...sure people talking about it got it banned from warefare...but this is different...it's not like we can just dump the nukes and simply forget about them...we use them for war and peace...

Talk all you want. Nothing changes. We all die.

Edison didn't solve all our problems. In fact, life went on without problems before the light bulb (we used candles and oil lamps and daylight)...nobody missed what they didn't have...there is a difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


i now see where you are coming from... but defeatism never produces victory.... go where you go... i go where i go... we'll see what may happen.. let the chips fall....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'll make you a deal. You toss in some hope of victory in this mess in your coverage here and there...and I'll shut the hell up...that way...instead of just scaring people into hopelessness (which you have done to many here) you can throw in a dash of hope...otherwise, we're just vying for the best seats for the Apocalypse...

I just don't see any hope for victory here. Give us a reason to...and then...you'll be making a huge difference...you might even be the person who ends up being the reason the world gets saved...just toss in some hope (make it up if you have to here and there)..and if we not only make people aware of the problems, but offer some meager measure of hope...that might kickstart the right person thinking...

Think about it. Thanks. I do actually very much appreciate your efforts.
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To tell the world the truth about Fukushima is to free the world of nuclear energy.

It will never be safe for Mother Earth or the world. It has to disappear off the map.

Although, most people would rather bury their heads in the sand, that would not ever stop a nuclear threat.

The only way to make sure for future generations to be free of this nuclear threat is to educate the masses now.

It may be too late for some of us, but we have to think of future generations NOW.

I PUSH for a nuclear free world. That goal has to start somewhere with someone. It will have a ripple effect through time.

:nuke future:

A nuclear free world for our children now!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Your children and grandchildren were killed in the 50s and 60s...when we started building these things. It's been some time since a new reactor was built in the states...

...they will all go Fuku within our lifetimes...which will shorten considerably, of course...

You're not wrong...but...without offering hope of a solution...you're just telling people they are gonna die...
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To tell the world the truth about Fukushima is to free the world of nuclear energy.

It will never be safe for Mother Earth or the world. It has to disappear off the map.

Although, most people would rather bury their heads in the sand, that would not ever stop a nuclear threat.

The only way to make sure for future generations to be free of this nuclear threat is to educate the masses now.

It may be too late for some of us, but we have to think of future generations NOW.

I PUSH for a nuclear free world. That goal has to start somewhere with someone. It will have a ripple effect through time.

:nuke future:

A nuclear free world for our children now!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Your children and grandchildren were killed in the 50s and 60s...when we started building these things. It's been some time since a new reactor was built in the states...

...they will all go Fuku within our lifetimes...which will shorten considerably, of course...

You're not wrong...but...without offering hope of a solution...you're just telling people they are gonna die...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


The solution is education and awareness.
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To tell the world the truth about Fukushima is to free the world of nuclear energy.

It will never be safe for Mother Earth or the world. It has to disappear off the map.

Although, most people would rather bury their heads in the sand, that would not ever stop a nuclear threat.

The only way to make sure for future generations to be free of this nuclear threat is to educate the masses now.

It may be too late for some of us, but we have to think of future generations NOW.

I PUSH for a nuclear free world. That goal has to start somewhere with someone. It will have a ripple effect through time.

:nuke future:

A nuclear free world for our children now!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Your children and grandchildren were killed in the 50s and 60s...when we started building these things. It's been some time since a new reactor was built in the states...

...they will all go Fuku within our lifetimes...which will shorten considerably, of course...

You're not wrong...but...without offering hope of a solution...you're just telling people they are gonna die...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


The solution is education and awareness.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


I did not know that education and awareness provided protection from radioactive particulate....
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To tell the world the truth about Fukushima is to free the world of nuclear energy.

It will never be safe for Mother Earth or the world. It has to disappear off the map.

Although, most people would rather bury their heads in the sand, that would not ever stop a nuclear threat.

The only way to make sure for future generations to be free of this nuclear threat is to educate the masses now.

It may be too late for some of us, but we have to think of future generations NOW.

I PUSH for a nuclear free world. That goal has to start somewhere with someone. It will have a ripple effect through time.

:nuke future:

A nuclear free world for our children now!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Your children and grandchildren were killed in the 50s and 60s...when we started building these things. It's been some time since a new reactor was built in the states...

...they will all go Fuku within our lifetimes...which will shorten considerably, of course...

You're not wrong...but...without offering hope of a solution...you're just telling people they are gonna die...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


The solution is education and awareness.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


I did not know that education and awareness provided protection from radioactive particulate....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


I know what you are saying.

It depends on what kind of person you are whether you want to know the truth or not.

If you think the truth can change the world, then you are as I am. If you think people are better off not knowing the truth, then you are as the government is...as Tepco is.

I am not playing God here. I am only a teacher in this world, because I have a thirst for knowledge and wisdom. I may not be able to save my physical body with that, but I can evolve my soul.

:sworn11:
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To tell the world the truth about Fukushima is to free the world of nuclear energy.

It will never be safe for Mother Earth or the world. It has to disappear off the map.

Although, most people would rather bury their heads in the sand, that would not ever stop a nuclear threat.

The only way to make sure for future generations to be free of this nuclear threat is to educate the masses now.

It may be too late for some of us, but we have to think of future generations NOW.

I PUSH for a nuclear free world. That goal has to start somewhere with someone. It will have a ripple effect through time.

:nuke future:

A nuclear free world for our children now!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Your children and grandchildren were killed in the 50s and 60s...when we started building these things. It's been some time since a new reactor was built in the states...

...they will all go Fuku within our lifetimes...which will shorten considerably, of course...

You're not wrong...but...without offering hope of a solution...you're just telling people they are gonna die...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


The solution is education and awareness.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


I did not know that education and awareness provided protection from radioactive particulate....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


Avoiding eating fish and meat will certainly help and there are a few other things that you can do like taking supplements, trying to drink water taken from underground, eating vegetables grown from a greenhouse where the water used to grow the vegetables came from underground, none of that is easy or cheap.

But, calling education and awareness the solution is unbelievable, those things won't help you at all if you don't take action.

Even if you do everything you can, your fate is still going to be random in this. I mean, one particle will give you cancer and that can come from ANYWHERE at ANYTIME.
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wtfdid waitwhat We have to pay for Fuku?? WTF? It is not even in our country. Screw their asses the Japanese people did this they need to fix their own issues my taxes will not pay for this BS.
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Your children and grandchildren were killed in the 50s and 60s...when we started building these things. It's been some time since a new reactor was built in the states...

...they will all go Fuku within our lifetimes...which will shorten considerably, of course...

You're not wrong...but...without offering hope of a solution...you're just telling people they are gonna die...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


The solution is education and awareness.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


I did not know that education and awareness provided protection from radioactive particulate....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


Avoiding eating fish and meat will certainly help and there are a few other things that you can do like taking supplements, trying to drink water taken from underground, eating vegetables grown from a greenhouse where the water used to grow the vegetables came from underground, none of that is easy or cheap.

But, calling education and awareness the solution is unbelievable, those things won't help you at all if you don't take action.

Even if you do everything you can, your fate is still going to be random in this. I mean, one particle will give you cancer and that can come from ANYWHERE at ANYTIME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57728576


You can always do something to help yourself, but what Fukushima has unleashed in this world will never be corrected in our lifetime.
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The solution is education and awareness.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


I did not know that education and awareness provided protection from radioactive particulate....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


Avoiding eating fish and meat will certainly help and there are a few other things that you can do like taking supplements, trying to drink water taken from underground, eating vegetables grown from a greenhouse where the water used to grow the vegetables came from underground, none of that is easy or cheap.

But, calling education and awareness the solution is unbelievable, those things won't help you at all if you don't take action.

Even if you do everything you can, your fate is still going to be random in this. I mean, one particle will give you cancer and that can come from ANYWHERE at ANYTIME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57728576


You can always do something to help yourself, but what Fukushima has unleashed in this world will never be corrected in our lifetime.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


It doesn't matter what we do, unless there's a miracle, there will be more Fukushimas.

From other posters:

Let me explain Fukushima in terms of a metaphor using something everyone knows: The Star Wars films

People don't understand that Fukushima Daiichi is the PREQUELS.

We're approximately in Episode 2 now.

Atom Boy is Jar Jar Binks, BTW.

Anyway, at the end of episode 3, Fukushima Daiichi is evacuated.

Then there's a period between episode 3 and episode 4 that is a mystery.

Episode 4 begins when Fukushima Daiini is evacuated.

That's when the real story (episodes 4 and on), begins...

Since the EARTHQUAKE (tsunami was secondary in damage to the earthquake), the Fukushima Daiici nuclear power plant consisting of SIX nuclear reactors (one of which was burning plutonium) was devastated and lost about 80% to 90% of its control (conservative estimate, btw).

As a result, immense amounts of radiation escaped continually, and increased over the two year+ time span since its demise (yes, its DEMISE).

Problem...

Over this nearly 2 and 1/2 year period, more and more radiation has escaped and is continuing to increase.

The day WILL come when the amount of radiation reaches the point where both Humans and Robots can no longer work at the power plant.

When that occurs, there will be no one and/or robots to control the increasing levels of radiation and essentially, the radiation will exponentiate over time.

There is ANOTHER nuclear power plant (Fukushima Daiini) 10 miles north of Daiichi. It has several reactors too.

When DAIICHI goes viral, the other one will, too.

There are a total of 53 nuclear power plants in Japan. When the above two go out of control, they ALL will become too radioactive to control.

Even after a Nuclear Facility is shut down, its spent fuel pools have to continually be cooled or else they will cause a fire that cannot be extinguished.

Ergo, 53 nuclear facilities, each with numerous reactors, will spew intense level of radiation into the air, land, sea and ground water.

There are 127 million people who live in Japan.

A moderate estimate as to how long it would take to move this many people to safety would be about one year, but course, that isn't enough time.

The ships and planes that would move these people would become contaminated by the radiation, rendering them useless after the mission is complete.

Once Fukushima Daiichi is evacuated the radiation will spread to Fukushima Daiini then over time the rest of Japan will become uninhabitable. Japan has 50 nuclear reactors (that will be like 50 Fukushimas) and the radiation from them will then makes its way to North America where there are over 100 nuclear reactors in America alone.

Nuclear reactors will be falling like dominoes all over the world until humanity is extinct.

Again, this is the chain reaction that is guaranteed barring an unbelievable miracle.

Even TPTB in their bunkers will never be able to come out and humanity will go extinct unless some of humanity leaves the planet.

There are a lot of people who believe that Edgar Cayce's prediction "...And the greater part of Japan must go into the sea" will come to pass. If that's true than we're talking around 30+ Fukushimas being dumped into the ocean all at once. That will essentially kill all of the plankton in the ocean imho and then most will die from lack of oxygen.

If this has to be an ELE then that may be the best way to go honestly.

Thread: Fukushima Conspiracy Theory (TPTB double crossed?)
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wtfdid waitwhat We have to pay for Fuku?? WTF? It is not even in our country. Screw their asses the Japanese people did this they need to fix their own issues my taxes will not pay for this BS.
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What's another trillion between friends? Does a trillion here or there even matter anymore?
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I did not know that education and awareness provided protection from radioactive particulate....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58590082


Avoiding eating fish and meat will certainly help and there are a few other things that you can do like taking supplements, trying to drink water taken from underground, eating vegetables grown from a greenhouse where the water used to grow the vegetables came from underground, none of that is easy or cheap.

But, calling education and awareness the solution is unbelievable, those things won't help you at all if you don't take action.

Even if you do everything you can, your fate is still going to be random in this. I mean, one particle will give you cancer and that can come from ANYWHERE at ANYTIME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57728576


You can always do something to help yourself, but what Fukushima has unleashed in this world will never be corrected in our lifetime.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


It doesn't matter what we do, unless there's a miracle, there will be more Fukushimas.

From other posters:

Let me explain Fukushima in terms of a metaphor using something everyone knows: The Star Wars films

People don't understand that Fukushima Daiichi is the PREQUELS.

We're approximately in Episode 2 now.

Atom Boy is Jar Jar Binks, BTW.

Anyway, at the end of episode 3, Fukushima Daiichi is evacuated.

Then there's a period between episode 3 and episode 4 that is a mystery.

Episode 4 begins when Fukushima Daiini is evacuated.

That's when the real story (episodes 4 and on), begins...

Since the EARTHQUAKE (tsunami was secondary in damage to the earthquake), the Fukushima Daiici nuclear power plant consisting of SIX nuclear reactors (one of which was burning plutonium) was devastated and lost about 80% to 90% of its control (conservative estimate, btw).

As a result, immense amounts of radiation escaped continually, and increased over the two year+ time span since its demise (yes, its DEMISE).

Problem...

Over this nearly 2 and 1/2 year period, more and more radiation has escaped and is continuing to increase.

The day WILL come when the amount of radiation reaches the point where both Humans and Robots can no longer work at the power plant.

When that occurs, there will be no one and/or robots to control the increasing levels of radiation and essentially, the radiation will exponentiate over time.

There is ANOTHER nuclear power plant (Fukushima Daiini) 10 miles north of Daiichi. It has several reactors too.

When DAIICHI goes viral, the other one will, too.

There are a total of 53 nuclear power plants in Japan. When the above two go out of control, they ALL will become too radioactive to control.

Even after a Nuclear Facility is shut down, its spent fuel pools have to continually be cooled or else they will cause a fire that cannot be extinguished.

Ergo, 53 nuclear facilities, each with numerous reactors, will spew intense level of radiation into the air, land, sea and ground water.

There are 127 million people who live in Japan.

A moderate estimate as to how long it would take to move this many people to safety would be about one year, but course, that isn't enough time.

The ships and planes that would move these people would become contaminated by the radiation, rendering them useless after the mission is complete.

Once Fukushima Daiichi is evacuated the radiation will spread to Fukushima Daiini then over time the rest of Japan will become uninhabitable. Japan has 50 nuclear reactors (that will be like 50 Fukushimas) and the radiation from them will then makes its way to North America where there are over 100 nuclear reactors in America alone.

Nuclear reactors will be falling like dominoes all over the world until humanity is extinct.

Again, this is the chain reaction that is guaranteed barring an unbelievable miracle.

Even TPTB in their bunkers will never be able to come out and humanity will go extinct unless some of humanity leaves the planet.

There are a lot of people who believe that Edgar Cayce's prediction "...And the greater part of Japan must go into the sea" will come to pass. If that's true than we're talking around 30+ Fukushimas being dumped into the ocean all at once. That will essentially kill all of the plankton in the ocean imho and then most will die from lack of oxygen.

If this has to be an ELE then that may be the best way to go honestly.

Thread: Fukushima Conspiracy Theory (TPTB double crossed?)
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That says it all, but I am a very spiritual person, and the soul is more important to me than the body.

The body will die no matter what.

However,the soul goes on and on into eternity; the soul can eventually make everything perfect for itself. But it takes experience, knowledge, and wisdom for the soul to evolve.

I have hope that we can learn from this ELE. If not there is no point to existence, is there?
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Avoiding eating fish and meat will certainly help and there are a few other things that you can do like taking supplements, trying to drink water taken from underground, eating vegetables grown from a greenhouse where the water used to grow the vegetables came from underground, none of that is easy or cheap.

But, calling education and awareness the solution is unbelievable, those things won't help you at all if you don't take action.

Even if you do everything you can, your fate is still going to be random in this. I mean, one particle will give you cancer and that can come from ANYWHERE at ANYTIME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57728576


You can always do something to help yourself, but what Fukushima has unleashed in this world will never be corrected in our lifetime.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


It doesn't matter what we do, unless there's a miracle, there will be more Fukushimas.

From other posters:

Let me explain Fukushima in terms of a metaphor using something everyone knows: The Star Wars films

People don't understand that Fukushima Daiichi is the PREQUELS.

We're approximately in Episode 2 now.

Atom Boy is Jar Jar Binks, BTW.

Anyway, at the end of episode 3, Fukushima Daiichi is evacuated.

Then there's a period between episode 3 and episode 4 that is a mystery.

Episode 4 begins when Fukushima Daiini is evacuated.

That's when the real story (episodes 4 and on), begins...

Since the EARTHQUAKE (tsunami was secondary in damage to the earthquake), the Fukushima Daiici nuclear power plant consisting of SIX nuclear reactors (one of which was burning plutonium) was devastated and lost about 80% to 90% of its control (conservative estimate, btw).

As a result, immense amounts of radiation escaped continually, and increased over the two year+ time span since its demise (yes, its DEMISE).

Problem...

Over this nearly 2 and 1/2 year period, more and more radiation has escaped and is continuing to increase.

The day WILL come when the amount of radiation reaches the point where both Humans and Robots can no longer work at the power plant.

When that occurs, there will be no one and/or robots to control the increasing levels of radiation and essentially, the radiation will exponentiate over time.

There is ANOTHER nuclear power plant (Fukushima Daiini) 10 miles north of Daiichi. It has several reactors too.

When DAIICHI goes viral, the other one will, too.

There are a total of 53 nuclear power plants in Japan. When the above two go out of control, they ALL will become too radioactive to control.

Even after a Nuclear Facility is shut down, its spent fuel pools have to continually be cooled or else they will cause a fire that cannot be extinguished.

Ergo, 53 nuclear facilities, each with numerous reactors, will spew intense level of radiation into the air, land, sea and ground water.

There are 127 million people who live in Japan.

A moderate estimate as to how long it would take to move this many people to safety would be about one year, but course, that isn't enough time.

The ships and planes that would move these people would become contaminated by the radiation, rendering them useless after the mission is complete.

Once Fukushima Daiichi is evacuated the radiation will spread to Fukushima Daiini then over time the rest of Japan will become uninhabitable. Japan has 50 nuclear reactors (that will be like 50 Fukushimas) and the radiation from them will then makes its way to North America where there are over 100 nuclear reactors in America alone.

Nuclear reactors will be falling like dominoes all over the world until humanity is extinct.

Again, this is the chain reaction that is guaranteed barring an unbelievable miracle.

Even TPTB in their bunkers will never be able to come out and humanity will go extinct unless some of humanity leaves the planet.

There are a lot of people who believe that Edgar Cayce's prediction "...And the greater part of Japan must go into the sea" will come to pass. If that's true than we're talking around 30+ Fukushimas being dumped into the ocean all at once. That will essentially kill all of the plankton in the ocean imho and then most will die from lack of oxygen.

If this has to be an ELE then that may be the best way to go honestly.

Thread: Fukushima Conspiracy Theory (TPTB double crossed?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57728576


That says it all, but I am a very spiritual person, and the soul is more important to me than the body.

The body will die no matter what.

However,the soul goes on and on into eternity; the soul can eventually make everything perfect for itself. But it takes experience, knowledge, and wisdom for the soul to evolve.

I have hope that we can learn from this ELE. If not there is no point to existence, is there?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


I'm not sure that existence is dependent on learning from ELE...it may well be a giant Kobiashi Maru test...how do we deal with a no win situation....





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