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The Illuminati Agenda--Is This the best Overview Yet?

 
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Chip, thanks for posting the info. Ignore the sleep walkers. I never believed walking brain donors could still type. Thanks again Chip. : )
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well, that's HIS vote...
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they may have control? over my body
but, never, will they have my soul/spark.
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probably something about greenbacks Spirit...
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This is the World. It IS the place of plans and machinations. Everyone's tiny individual life prooves that. All of us have been subject to the devices of someone with a operational plan to control us in some way.

For this thread to be derided by a denial that long term institutionalised agendas are impossible is just stupid. and corrupt.

Debunkers seem always to be Historically challenged. spock
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Chip, thanks for posting the info. Ignore the sleep walkers. I never believed walking brain donors could still type. Thanks again Chip. : )
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i do my best to pay close attention to the sleep walkers...

...lest i wake up one day thinking as they do.
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So lets see if I've got this right. The Illuminati have been plotting to take over the world for nearly 300 years huh?

Boy, these guys SUCK!

shark jerkit
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Well the one thing that needs to be realized is that a plan, any plan needs a date of conception/fulfillment. If the illuminati have been planning this for 300 years or 3000 years is does not matter if there is no date to implement it. Without this date a plan is simply a dream and I have yet to see and actual date put down for this "planned" take over of the world. Why, because if the "plan" does not work out then the Illuminati will be taken as fools. As and example many "religious" organizations have tried to put a date on Christs return to Earth and have been found wanting. They in turn have become the focal point of jokes and suffered the reputations of stupidity and nut cases. The Illuminati if they truly exist could and would not take this chance to be labeled as fools...
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!

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So lets see if I've got this right. The Illuminati have been plotting to take over the world for nearly 300 years huh?

Boy, these guys SUCK!

shark jerkit
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Ayuh...They sure do seem to be pretty incompetent...

I guess I don't really have much to worry about...
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So lets see if I've got this right. The Illuminati have been plotting to take over the world for nearly 300 years huh?

Boy, these guys SUCK!

shark jerkit
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The depth of your understanding their agenda sucks much more.
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Accept now that all you have seen from the day of your birth on the surface of the earth, to the present, and all that you will meet here are wonderful only because the finite mind of man is confused with fragments of evidence, that, from whatever direction we meet them, spring from an unreachable infinity.
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Sorry(well NOT) but this whole subject earns the bsflag

Call me a paid shill, psy-op, CIA plant, Illuminati plant.... whatever

It's just people looking to blame a fictional entity for all their failures and dissapointments with their lives.

Instead of railing and yelling about these plots, why not actually get involved and get people elected who represent the values you want reflected in govt?

Nah...it's easier to cry foul about non-existant secret societies and throw your hands up, and make endless postbustedrums like this. The sad thing is that you are all signalling defeat, when infact it is the people who have the ultimate power- if they chose to excercise it.

But go on...keep on with your two thousand word cut&paste rants. You are really making a difference. tredmil
You are my new hero.
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behold the secret keepers.


it's time to make THEM paranoid and edgy, as edgy with fear of what can't be controlled as they have sought to make everyone they would rule.


see it! the denial -- the method, the sneering, superioristic METHOD and type of denial -- not that it's merely a denial of the explanation of the SEALS on American Currency's occultic original meaning -- but the WAY it's described -- right down to the "biting the mailman" technique of attacking the person who meant to bring up the topic.


of course it was Myron Fagan. I was in heaven, waiting to be born, in 1967.

(and it was cool, let me tell you. i think i saw some of you there...)
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This is the World. It IS the place of plans and machinations. Everyone's tiny individual life prooves that. All of us have been subject to the devices of someone with a operational plan to control us in some way.

For this thread to be derided by a denial that long term institutionalised agendas are impossible is just stupid. and corrupt.

Debunkers seem always to be Historically challenged. spock
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experience teaches honest sincere people that when something is heavily denied, to squint and look closely for facts...
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Fagan's overview ends in 1967.

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Rothschild, world Zionism and world capitalism has been fleecing America to quietus level

Why We Fight was a Hollywood film promoting America's participation in World War II. It was sheer propaganda. Actually, the American people have been at war since the nation was born and after two centuries our properties are mortgaged, our resources pledged and we are totally bankrupt and in grave danger. We were warned!

Money Changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance. (James Madison)

Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes its laws. (Mayer Amschel Rothschild)

Whoever controls the money, controls the flow of wealth. (Fr. Charles Coughlin)

The spirit of war has been procured by money lenders. (Thomas Jfferson)

War was[is] largely a matter of money. (Bernard Baruch)

George Washington called them "our greatest enemy"; Benjamin Franklin called them "vampires" and "Asiatics" (a race of Khazars from Asia); Thomas Jefferson, "false citizens"; James Madison, "money changers" and Andrew Jackson, "Ye, breed of vipers". They wisely placed the Constitutional power to "coin Money and regulate the Value thereof" in Congress, the same as "common Defense" and "the general Welfare of the United States" but Rothschild overrode the Constitution in both 1791 and 1913. It's all about fiat money founded in debt to the world bankers.

Benjamin Franklin said the American Revolution was not about taxes but about money, "We issue our own money called Colonial Scrip. In creating our own paper money, we control its purchasing power and have no interest to pay to anyone." At the urging of the English bankers in 1764 the British Currency Act banned the colonial script as legal tender in favor of the debt ridden English pound and the colonies plunged from prosperity into a depression which caused the Revolution.

In 1770 Rothschild became agent, and acted for, for one of the richest men in Europe, Prince William of Hanau. He schemed to create a monopoly of European bankers and financiers who would dominate European and American banking and finance. In the American Revolution he supplied Hessian troops for Britain to use against America. After the Revolution, the Treaty of Paris of 1783 in Article 4 provided that all debts of both sides be paid in English sterling (a Rothschild money stratagem).

In 1791, the First Bank of the United States was founded by a Rothschild agent, Alexander Hamilton, emulating the founding of the Bank of England a century before by William Patterson, agent of the Sepphardic bankers of Amsterdam. They created money at interest, vast government war debt and fractional reserves (bank loans based on little security). In just a few years, British national debt soared tenfold. Rothschild through Hamilton had installed the same banking system in America. France followed in 1808 and Britain in 1810. Mayer died in 1812.

Mayer founded the Rothschild Dynasty of sucessive generations of male heirs which carried on the Rothschild agenda, described in the Protocols to the Learned Members of the Elders of Zion (world rule through endless debt and continuous war). Today the Dynasty is an invisible colossus of incalculable wealth and power (the "string theory" of modern politics and economics), boasting,

We have taken hold of the ends of the springs which move their social mechanism. We have got our hands into the administration of the law, into the conduct of elections, into the press, into liberty of the person, but principally into education and training as being the cornerstones of a free existence.

In 1811, Rothschild warned that, if his Bank's charter was not renewed, war would follow and the War of 1812 followed the lapse of the charter. So the Second Bank of the United States was founded in 1816. It's charter was allowed to expire in 1836. A few years before, Nicholas Biddle warned that "widespread suffering and monetary contraction" would force Congress to re-charter the Bank. And a great depression followed in 1837. But President Jackson had "killed the Bank". Unacceptable! An attempt on his life was made in 1835 and the assassin confessed that he was hired by "powerful people in Europe".

In the decades that followed America began to expand and develop with its immense natural resources and its cheap and industrious immigrant labor, despite repeated panics and depressions every decade caused by the bankers. A great and powerful nation had appeared on the horizon and Rothschild did not "issue and control" its money. Unacceptable! Booming America would be brought to its knees.

The causes of the Civil War fill the libraries: slavery, tariffs, foreign trade, declining Southern influence, Northern capitalism vs Southern agrarianism, federalization of the West, and federal subsidies and preferential land grants to the Rothschild financed railroads. Buried in the verbiage are "banking interests". The wealth of the South was being siphoned off by Northern banks. Jefferson said it a half century before,

Whenever Northern and Southern prejudices have come into conflict, the latter have been sacrificed and the former soothed; the owners of the debt are in the South and the holders of it in the North.

The South thought the Union was a Confederacy, a voluntary union of sovereign states. Madison called it a "great Confederacy". Preservation of "states rights" had occupied months of the Constitutional Convention. The first American constitution was called The Articles of Confederation, nullification and secession had been reserved by the South for over a half century. Why was the South held in the Union by force? Had the South seceded, their debt to Northern banks would have been canceled and the siphoning of its wealth ended. But the South was crushed, leaving America to the Northern banks and Rothschild financed industrialists (Robber Barons). According to Otto Bismark,

I know of absolute certainty that the division of the United States into two federations of equal power was decided long before the Civil War by the high financial powers of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States would upset the capitalist domination of Europe over the world.

To help finance the Civil War (bank interest was exorbitant), Lincoln issued Treasury money called Greenbacks. The bankers forced him to abandon Greenbacks during the war but Greenbacks were very popular and debt free and Lincoln intended to return to them after the war. Unacceptable! A relative said that Booth was not killed in any fire but lived out his life comfortably in Europe. Few know that, as the British troops assembled in Canada, the Czar sent a Russian fleet into New York to warn the bankers. In 1868 Rothschild promised "financial ruin to those who might advocate the payment of U.S Bonds in Greenbacks" (debt paid off with debt free money).

In the aftermath of the Civil War, while the American people agonized, the Northern banks contracted the money supply again and again and depressions and panics followed every decade for the rest of the century. As Biddle had indicated, monetary contractions and credit fluctuations were caused by the bankers acting in concert. The bankers withdraw to safe harbors, then money and credit are withdrawn from the society and the economy shrivels, home owners, small business and employment usually bear the burden. Afterwards, the bankers acquire valuable properties at foreclosure prices. It is banker's Capitalism.

In early 1881 President Garfield said, "Whoever controls the money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce". He would change it. Unacceptable! In July he was assassinated.

By 1900 it was estimated that Rothschild secretly controlled half the wealth and resources of earth through the international banking system, financial and industrial monopolies, rich corporations and many powerful agents, fronts and factions. And this was before all the wars of the 20th century. As President Wilson said,

Some of the biggest men in the United States are afraid of something. They know there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.

In 1907 there was "the usual" financial panic, paving the way for "monetary reform" and the re-installation of the Rothschild Bank, now called the Federal Reserve System. Through blackmail of President Wilson the Rothschild agent, Paul Warburg (like Hamilton), with the assistance of Brandeis, Untermeyer and Baruch, passed the Federal Reserve Act on Christmas Eve when opposing Congressmen had gone home, assured that the Act would not be passed. Rothschild now issued and controlled America's money by duping Congress! And American money and credit were marshalled to finance the long planned World War I.

America was drawn into World War I by the Balfour Declaration, authored by Rothschild and Supreme Court Justice Brandeis; 160,000 young Americans were murdered in just a few months by the Father of Zionism in America. They also died to protect the bankers' war loans to England. And Zionism became a global power.

The Crash of '29 and the Great Depression of the '30's were both caused by the Federal Reserve, as was the Asian Crisis. Then as now, vast wealth is suddenly withdrawn from a financial market, causing a panic and collapse. The Great Depression was produced by the contraction of money and credit with the "widespread suffering" predicted by Biddle a century before. Many of US still remember the impoverishment and suffering of so many millions in our childhood. The manipulation of gold, money and credit to cause crashes, panics, and depressions are spelled out in the Protocols. The purpose is to destroy competitive wealth and to transfer immense wealth and property to the bankers at foreclosure prices, over and over, siphoning off the wealth of a society. Capitalism functions best in an open economy, free of any governmental restraint or regulation with minimal taxation, maximizing profits.

World War II did not begin in 1938. It was declared in 1933 by Samuel Untermeyer in New York on behalf of World Zionism against Germany and President Roosevelt began to secretly mobilize America against Germany in 1934. The depredations of World Zionism after World War I had devastated Germany. Under German National Socialism, money was based on economic output instead of the bankers' debt money together with governmental regulation of industry and finance (like Franklin's colonial script and Lincoln's Greenbacks). An economic miracle followed, World Zionism and World Capitalism had been "upset" in the heart of Europe. Most unacceptable! Hitler and Germany had to be utterly crushed and demonized and Naziism condemned forever. There is far more evidence of UFO's or Sasquatch than any "Holocaust". No wonder any discussion or investigation of it must be banned and criminalized, it vanishes in the light of day. Nevertheless, it is embedded in the psyche of America like an article of faith by constant Zionist repetiton and conditioning.

Franklin Roosevelt was the darling of the bankers. His first act was to give the Federal Reserve a multi-billion windfall, nationalizing American gold and then increasing its dollar value. His New Deal spared the rich and ballooned bankers' debt; admirers admit he saved Capitalism. He allied with England against Germany and provoked Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor when he had promised to spare "our boys" from war. His boys were generals, safe in Washington. When Adm. Kimmel sent a defensive fleet to the exact area where the Japanese fleet arrived a week later, he was ordered to stand down and "clear the seas". And hundreds of thousands of American boys died, once again to protect the bankers' war loans. In 1948 Zionists bribed Harry Truman with $2 millions to approve the State of Israel.

In 1963 President Kennedy began to issue Treasury money backed by silver. In the 19th century, Rothschild tried to eliminate any monetary value for silver so that the world would depend on Rothschild's monopoly of gold (cf. Protocols). Kennedy was also going to end the war in Vietnam and reduce war debt (with Treasury dollars? cf. Rothschild's 1868 threat). He planned a number of other steps (close the CIA, deny armaments to Israel, etc.) which would hinder World Zionism. Unacceptable! Like Garfield, he was murdered a few months later. All silver was removed from American coinage the next year and all Treasury money replaced with Federal Reserve Notes. It was the bankers' mandated Currency Act of 1764 once again, enforced by assassination. Lyndon Johnson was a fraud (Tonkin Gulf), a monstrous war criminal (Vietnam) and another Rothschild "panama" (cf. Protocols). And tens of thousands more young Americans died. Let US never forget the USS Liberty!

In 1978 China was re-opened to the West by a Rothschild gofer (and 9/11 beneficiary?). In 1983 the Bank of China became a central bank (like the Western central banks), issuing the money of China, and in 1987 the Bank of China recalled the former money of China (renminbi), replacing it with Bank of China money. Since then Washington and the bankers have pressured China to conform to the global monetary system maintained by the West under the Federal Reserve's Bank for International Settlements. In return, Washington transferred hundreds of billions worth of American capital, technology, plant and equipment and employment to China.

By the 1980's the Savings Banks and Savings & Loans had grown enormously because they were carefully regulated and provided services that the big banks would not; e.g., small savings accounts and home mortgages. The bankers could not permit so much competitive wealth to remain in the hands of independent bankers under government supervision. A scheme was devised to acquire the assets of the S&L's at discount prices with the usual tax benefits and $500 billion in liabilities willed to our grandchildren. Also, for decades, American gold reserves have been rifled by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury under leases, presumably to be paid for when the dollar has collapsed. FDR once said, "Nothing of importance happens by chance, it is always carefully planned and carried out." (Moosejaw was a conspiracy nut?)

In the 1990's two wars were commenced against Iraq for its vast oil fields for Rothschild"s monopoly of world petroleum and to enforce the requirement that all global energy be paid in dollars (cf. the 1783 Treaty of Paris). Once more the demonization process began against an Iraqi president who was installed by Washington like the Shah of Iran and many others, for so long as they obeyed Washington. In 1953 Washington ousted a popularly elected President Mossadegh because he nationalized Irani oil for his people rather than for Rothschild's monopoly. (Like President Chavez in Venezuela today.) Recently Rothschild claimed secret ownership of half of all Russian oil.

And finally, on September 11, 2001, Pearl harbor was restaged (one as phony as the other). It could mark the beginning of a world war against another Rothschild enemy, Islam and its petroleum, using the "guns of America". On the internet, the official story of this terrible day is patently a tissue of lies. It was the greatest insurance "killing" in history; purchased and over-insured a few months earlier, another "stand down" for defense forces, all witnesses silenced, all evidence sequestered, and a controlled commission to mislead the public. The media monopoly, television and Hollywood created a national hysteria with constant melodrama and psychological conditioning, putting the American people into a deep submissive shock so that war powers could be put into the hands of a slavish monkey on the chain of World Zionism (thanks to a lawless Supreme Court). We abide the murderous slaughter of an innocent people under the tiresome hypocrisy of "Freedom and Democracy"--by butchering them and stealing their resources. Let US focus on Silverstein's Bldg. No. 7 instead of his Towers. The Truth is buried here not in the latest Hollywood and media merchandising and profiteering of this terrible tragedy.

The official film from the Defense Department ( [link to www.defenselink.mil]
clearly shows the front of a missile-like object headed for the Pentagon (as admitted by Rumsfeld), and then a great explosion. It is not a 757 which could not possibly fly at this height. So Washington is lying and so is the media, television and Hollywood. Also the Frenchmen's film of the North Tower in slow motion shows a suspicious brilliant flash just as or before the plane hits the building. When this identical film was shown on Nova in Why the Towers Fell, sponsored by Washington, the brilliant flash was deleted. So Washington is lying again and so is the media monopoly, television and Hollywood. All political terrorism is caused and sheltered by those who would benefit from the atrocities. The perpetrators are obvious, "false flag" operations are their specialty and they rule Washington.

What is meant by the "guns of America" in the Protocols. Since 1916 the American people have been forced by Washington to participate in war after war against a majority of the people on earth, imposing on them the "Freedom and Democracy" of World Zionism and World Capitalism and causing millions of American casualties as well as the death of tens of millions of innocent civilians and children with no benefit whatsoever to the American people. The veterans of one war are forgotten while their sons march off to the next and on and on. Government after government is overturned by US, elections undermined, leaders assassinated, revolts and civil unrest fomented, causing the death of millions more civilians and children. An evil arsenal has been built which together with all the wars, has bankrupt US with little of it for our "common Defense". The wealth of America has been siphoned off by World Zionism and World Capitalism. World Zionism and World Capitalism are the sides of a single coin, on the front is an image of Rothschild and on the reverse a Red Shield.

We are constantly assured that we are a free people. And so we are--about as free as Pavlov's dogs. The most powerful force in America is the mass media: movies, television, national newspapers and magazines, and book publishing and retailing. World Zionism owns and controls every bit of it and filters everything through a pro-Zionist and pro-Capitalist screen . It conditions the mind of America for their myths and lies. It keeps Zionist interests in the forefront of American consciousness. It determines political, social and moral values. It can destroy any official, even the president (Nixon) or a senator (Hart); independent candidates are eliminated (Romney or Perot). The spirit of the American people has been undermined through constant broadcasts of fear and terrorism and made submissive to Washington. And Washington is ruled by ruthless and fanatical traitors. The Geneva Convention is abrogated. Their armies perpetrate even more horrific "war crimes" than were prosecuted at Nuremburg. Their loyalty is not to the American Constitution or to the American people but to an alien power. Their brutal massacre of the children at Waco is a continuing warning that the American people must at all times genuflect to World Zionism. As Benjamin Freedman said, "Zionists rule these United States...as the absolute monarch of this country." Let US never forget Rachel Corrie.

We must stand up to Washington and demand that it:
Wage war only for "the common Defense of the United States";
Guarantee full employment for all citizens (not endless war);
Dismantle the arsenal of World Capitalism and World Zionism and eliminate poverty in America;
Assure minorities a place in government according to their proportion of the society;
Close the Federal Reserve and restore its debt and responsibilities to Congress and the Treasury;
Impose an annual tax of fifty percent of all personal wealth, income and property in excess of Five Millions (two percent of the people have more than all the rest);
Ban the separate taxation of wages (tax income per the 16th Amendment);
Prohibit all taxation of subsistence incomes, wages and necessaries;
Socialize/regulate banking, insurance and financial markets (end inflation and speculation);
Socialize/regulate human necessaries, food, housing, health care, education, energy and natural resources;
Eliminate private money and programmable machines from elections;
Establish term limits for all public officials including judges; the greater the power, the shorter the term;
Call for a new and modern Constitution, specifying the rights of the people and the powers of government.
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Acknowledgments:
The Money Masters by Still & Carmack
Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
Benjamin Freedman, a true American
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Important Speeches that have changed minds
From ex-Zionists: Benjamin Freedman's speech.
[link to www.iamthewitness.com]
This is from 1961. Myron Fagan's speech.
Click here : [link to 100777.com]
From the late 1960's From a Zionist: Samuel Untermyer's speech.
[link to www.iamthewitness.com]
1933 Jewish Boycott of Nazi Germany
[link to www.wintersonnenwende.com]
The History of the House of Rothschild PDF
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If that doesn't make people flock here in droves i dont know what will

thanks for, once again, pointing people in the right direction Mr Raupp

Whenever im in doubt as to a threads authenticity and truthful quotient, i look for Mr Raupp's approval rating, if he concurs, leave it out of your brain, if he disagree's strongly, there's probably something you should know in there

It can therefore be presented that every single word in the OP's posts is about as correct as you will find anywhere

Raupp's seal of approval, will it become the new gold standard?

Cheers W W cheers
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Thanks, Chip...I will post this on a bulletin and make sure everyone reads it.
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Thank YOU, Heidi.

the part about communism is really potentially enlightening.

I mean as in, not "Illuminating."

did you read it?

all of it?

ALL???
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Third time I give this thread a 1 star rating.
To shape the world is to become immortal
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Third time I give this thread a 1 star rating.
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EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHY.

I am guessing it is because you are a big-time investor and most of what Fagan says is poking a raw nerve for you, making you feel some of that major innards-rotting guilt that they say is associated with having a working relationship with Mammon.

Or are you gonna go to that "it's all lies" well again? That one we KNOW is deception.

Basically, what Is Your Beef?


maybe you shouldn't say anything. If it was pointless, you would ignore it and say nothing -- and let idiots believe what bunk we want...you make me laugh, like Rich Cheney putting out a Gag Order on a piece of legislation that is supposed to have no basis in reality. Yeah, right Mr. Cheney. So not real that no one is allowed to even MENTION it.


You know, you remind me of the guy who robs a bank not knowing about exploding dye packs.
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oh, WW -- you've "got mail"

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Praise the Holy of Holy Paul was Illuminati And he now sit in heaven, only the captian need go down with the ship! If you need help contact me! praise the Holy of Holy Amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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i always need help. Jesus has me covered, though thanks.

i always make a distinction, anymore, between "illuminated" and "enlightened" for political and philosophical reasons.

the precedent is in history. as in: Bodhidharma and many other asian monks, priests and aspirants

not members of The Illuminati, as were Rockefeller and Schiff...
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Should make some interestig fellowship time on the other side!
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Sorry, but you don't have an answer Chippy. You seek shit like this and think it is truth. Well, trust me on this: it's not. Illuminati related conspiracy shit is just religion for cavemen 8000 years ago: to explain easily explainable natural events. Humanity can be evil, stupid and unscrupulous even without being part of a massive conspiracy, dumbfuck.
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Two points:

A) OPie said, " If you think this is far fetched, bear in mind that they permitted Hitler, a liberal socialist himself, who was financed by corrupt Kennedy, the Warburgs, and the Rothschilds, to incinerate 600,000 Jews."

Truth: Prescott BUSH financed the Nazis.
See here: [link to www.google.com]

B) Larry Silverstein, who said, "we had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse..." Source: [link to www.google.com]

Larry Silverstein is closely associated with the CFR executive, Peter G. Peterson (Chairman of the CFR and Federal Reserve Bank of New York). Source: [link to www.google.com]

Peter G. Peterson, CFR chairman, is Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the Blackstone Group. Source: [link to www.cfr.org]

Larry Silverstein and Peter G. Peterson were in collusion regarding 911. Source: [link to www.google.com]

Blackstone Group acquired the debt for WTC prior to its destruction. Source: [link to www.blackstone.com]

See also here: [link to www.google.com]

Not only did Peter G. Peterson, CFR, Larry Silverstein, and the Blackstone Group participate in the destruction of WTC/911, they had the hutzpah to come out publicly to talk about rebuilding the WTC comples: "Several prominent CEOs participated in a December panel discussion at NYU to offer their views on “Rebuilding Confidence in the US Economy.” The event, organized by Prof. Nicholas Economides of the Stern School of Business, featured Richard Grasso, chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, Stephen Schwarzman, president and CEO of The Blackstone Group, and Larry Silverstein, president and CEO of Silverstein Properties."

Source: [link to www.nyu.edu]

And so, you see, 911/WTC was done by the CFR and the Illuminati bastards -- in your face -- and then they lied to you about it -- to your face. The so-called "Independent 911 Commission" was not independent at all -- it, too, was run amok with CFR insiders. Consider the two most prominently visible members of the 911 Commission, Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton. They are both CFR members.

Thomas H. Kean, CFR sources: [link to www.google.com]

Lee H. Hamilton, CFR sources: [link to www.google.com]

So... they destroyed WTC in your face and lied to you about it in your face and they know that there's nothing that can be done about it because the CFR controls the entire government.

CFR members in the House of Representatives:
[link to www.geocities.com]
[link to www.google.com]

CFR members in the Senate:
[link to www.nndb.com]
[link to www.google.com]

These SOB's will kill you, lie about it, start a war because of the lies, charge you to rebuild the buildings they destroyed while they killed you, charge you to rebuild the countries they destroy in their lying wars, and they do it right in your face and you do nothing about it.
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[link to www.iamthewitness.com]
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[link to www.iamthewitness.com]
Important Speeches that have changed minds
From ex-Zionists: Benjamin Freedman's speech.
[link to www.iamthewitness.com]
This is from 1961. Myron Fagan's speech.
Click here : [link to 100777.com]
From the late 1960's From a Zionist: Samuel Untermyer's speech.
[link to www.iamthewitness.com]
1933 Jewish Boycott of Nazi Germany
[link to www.wintersonnenwende.com]
The History of the House of Rothschild PDF
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 Quoting: chiptruth

THE ABOVE SITES NEED TO BE READ AND HEARD BY EVERYONE.
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Sorry, but you don't have an answer Chippy. You seek shit like this and think it is truth. Well, trust me on this: it's not. Illuminati related conspiracy shit is just religion for cavemen 8000 years ago: to explain easily explainable natural events. Humanity can be evil, stupid and unscrupulous even without being part of a massive conspiracy, dumbfuck.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp

i think YOU are the dumb fuck.

and now you are not just insulting ME, Einstein, but all the other people here who...

you know, I think maybe you are just evil, stupid and unscrupulous and haven't yet started to consider that that doesn't describe ALL of humanity -- simply those who use duplicity to rule. i mean the way you buckle and fall apart in this thread like your GENITALS ARE EXPOSED and dwarves are throwing darts at you...it's sad and pathetic like this thread makes you feel guilty and you have to go all negative to make some sort of damage control. WOW.
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and you are NO WAY allowed to call me "Chippy".

unless you are someone i have had sex with. Maria? Is that you messing with computers?
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Chippy. What a shitty nickname. Who'd you had sex with? Your dog Maria?
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